Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Kyle Going Back On Fox News" video.

  1. So the right cannot bring up Cuba and Venezuela but Kyle can bring up Denmark and Norway?
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  2. Spinosaurus, so you bring up sanctions but you ignore the other variables in the Scandinavian countries in why their programs work? That is the problem here. You have to be fair. I hardly bring up other nations until other people do. The reason why is because many variables influence how those programs function. You bring up Scandinavian countries, so others bring up Venezuela and Cuba because they also have universal healthcare. So you bring up sanctions, so I can bring up the fact that Scandinavian countries have healthier lifestyles due to their culture with lower smoking and obesity rates. They have higher oil productivity, lower corporate taxes and so on. These issues are complex. Reality is that Kyle does not engage in conversations like that. He has nothing but talking points. Fox is asking for him to come on the show because after he does people will look at his channel and see him doing nothing but bringing up talking points in his bubble and making fart noises. It makes his side look immature. No different than how Fox is making fun of a 28 year old bartender who things she can survive in congress.
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  3. The Everyday Liberal Show, two things 1. Bernie supported what Venezuela was doing in the past until it failed. He also supported Castro. 2. You can't look at only the success but you have to admit that those programs have failed in other nations as well. You can't turn a blind eye on the failures
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  4. Bernie supported Venezuela in 2011 in an essay entitled "Close the Gaps: Disparities That Threaten America" The private market sector in healthcare does many things well providing the best quality. The issue in the US is that we do not have a free market system in healthcare. Other nations have many shortcomings as well, you can't ignore them.
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  5. Anthony Lalama, how is Scandinavia an accurate representation and Venezuela isn't?
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  6. Unknown, yes, those nations have healthier lifestyles. Canada produces more oil. Germany tracks their students to limit who can attend college to lower demand. Also, saying universal healthcare would be cheaper is vague. Cheaper how? With what quality?
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  7. Unknown, the quality is not better. To start, I don't consider Vox to be a reliable source. Next, that video looked at cost, not quality. They also said we have a free market system in healthcare which we don't. We have many government regulations in healthcare.
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  8. Dead Sirius, rankings are arbitrary. The WHO ranking was criticized so much they did not create a new one in nearly 20 years. Also, do you even know how that ranking was made? I doubt it. You just blindly followed it.
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  9. Unknown Knight, there are plenty of sources on Google. Google the book "The Business of Health".
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  10. Kyle, and the US is a different country with a different government and a different society. The reality is this, those on the left are limiting down a complex issues to 1. They are countries 2. They do X, Y and Z and do fine So the right does it with Venezuela.
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  11. Dead Sirius, never said that.
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  12. Anthony, I do come up with studies and have often. A problem I have is when you individuals post a study but clearly don't read it. Take the one about how medicare for all would supposedly save money that Kyle is now talking about. That study said that it was a conservative estimate. Chances are it would cost more. That $32.6 trillion over 10 years is just public spending and does not include private. Also, it said that taxes would increase over 100%. So you are not factoring in the possibility of the economy taking a step back due to a large tax increase. You can't just post a source and not read it. I am challenging you to do that. And again, I have posted many sources in the past. It seems to me that you can't take criticism.
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  13. Spinosaurus, universal healthcare is not superior to what we have. I am not saying it is inferior, but when you break it down little suggest it is superior. Saying other countries do it is not an argument as you are leaving out numerous factors. A major issue I have here is that healthcare is complex and you guys are making very simple arguments to a very complex issue. You look at Denmark and Norway but rip on others for looking at Venezuela. That is hypocrisy to the highest degree. Kyle makes very weak points for medicare for all. That $17 trillion number is almost a made up number. That $49 trillion came from an over simplified analysis where they assumed costs would increase by a certain amount over 10 years. The $32 trillion came from an analysis that ignored demand thus it is an underestimate. Also, that $32 trillion is for medicare only, it does not include the private option where the $49 trillion does. Thus the two numbers were calculated differently and represent different things. They can't be compared. This comes back to I strongly encourage you to actually read these studies and not take them on face value. As for Trump and his actions, welcome to politics. Bernie rants like a 14 year old as well. Saying things like "fair share" and "living wage" are not that intelligent either. Trump is simply being a politician to speak to the common man. Just like Bernie is doing. Considering how many people who watch Kyle cannot read and analyze a study on their own it is not surprising that Bernie, and Trump says what they do. I would love to debate Kyle, I have my sources ready to do so. I actually read the studies including the same one he cites.
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  14. Eric Nick, this is usually when others run away or they call me a troll.
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  15. Zachary, maybe later, but he did praise Venezuela for what they were proposing years back. Just like he praised Castro for giving his people healthcare and an education. Bernie also praised breadlines. Not surprising from a guy who stole electricity from his neighbor.
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  16. Khalkara, what are you advocating for? That is the issue. You bring up Denmark and Norway but never get into details. So the counter argument is Venezuela. And when you say you don't want what Venezuela has than you have to break down what Denmark and Norway do and why that would work in the US. Reality is people like Kyle and Bernie can't. Thus they say Denmark and Norway and the simple counter argument becomes Venezuela. If you don't have a desire to have an intellectual conversation with details than why should the other side?
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  17. Khalkara, it is similar to those who push communism and say that in the past what was practiced was not real communism.
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  18. Anthony, what part of Denmark do you want to copy? The fact that for years they had mandatory military? The fact they produce more oil? The fact they tax over 50% of their revenue? I need details. You just can't pick and choose what you want and then claim you want to be like them. And saying there are "various platforms and sources" is not an argument. I personally never use the Venezuela argument, I am describing to you why others do. To me it is fair based on the idea that you refuse to go into details about countries like Denmark and Norway. You claim to want to be more like them but leave a ton of variables out. I do accept your objective data. I am just critical of it because I understand how easy it is to lie with stats or how one can present empty stats when you don't have a comparison. You say the current system isn't work for all americans. No system works for everyone, that is the reality. Also, saying it doesn't work is vague. What do you mean? I never asked for precise details on anything because I understand that these issues are complex. But when someone says other countries do it better I ask how. When you say you want to do what other countries do I ask how. When you post me a ranking I ask how they came up with that. That is not unfair. I am demanding from you to show you have taken the time to research this issue and come up with your own intelligent conclusion and not live off of talking points.
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  19. Anthony, in everything there is doubt. I have my opinions on how to improve our healthcare system but I can play devil's advocate on myself. I admit that my ideas are not without flaws and are difficult to implement. However, I just don't go around saying "Denmark" or "Norway" or throw empty stats or arbitrary ranking at people as if they are an argument.
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  20. The Everyday Liberal Show, you are using an opinion poll with a vague question to justify your stance. I used a voting result from a blue state. But yep, I only have lies based on what you said.
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  21. TYT used to have guests on, they haven't for a long time. They have been an echo chamber for a while.
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  22. Unknown Knight, you have not linked anyone. As for that book, it is by two professors who are experts in that field. Beyond that, you are asking me to randomly google information. That means I can find anything that could even disagree with you.
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  23. Anthony, many Scandinavian countries have no min. wage. You brought up unions, their unions are a part of a free market. The employer/employee relationship is part of a free market. In the US we have crony unionism. Unions are some of the largest donors in the US. A major reason why we have a min. wage is because it is a negotiation tool for unions. We have corruption with our unions. We do not have a free market in union. Scandinavian countries do. So you are making an argument for less government when it comes to unions and wages. Someone like Bernie wants to double to min. wage and give government protection to unions. That is the complete opposite Scandinavian countries do. They have those programs because they tax their citizens more, not corporate and not just the rich. You are going to have to convince a nation of $320+ million people, with at GDP of $18.5 trillion that their taxes are going to go up and convince them that government runs those programs better. Good luck.
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  24. Anthony, I didn't ignore your argument. I am telling you there is more to it than you are presenting. Unions are handled by the free market in Scandinavian countries. I love how you gave no reference to laws. You want collective bargaining as the min. wage is a job killer. Vox is not a reliable source. Saying medicare is popular is not an argument. If slavery was popular would you say we should allow it? Also, if it is so popular why did 80% of voters in Colorado vote against universal healthcare?
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  25. Simon 1. Define "quality". That's vague. 2. So you can't compare the USA to Cuba but you can Norway, a nation smaller than many of our states? A nation that produces more oil, has a completely different culture and history, and different economy? A democracy is 51% telling 49% what to do. I don't want that.
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  26. Last time Kyle was on Fox News it was a few people trying to talk over each other. No one really made a point. It was a waste of time.
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  27. You are right, Kyle played the role of an idiot. He is going to become another person to laugh at like they are laughing at AOC.
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  28. The point of bringing Kyle on is that people will look him up and see his channel as being someone in a bubble making fart noise. It makes the ultra left look like a joke. Just like how they are rooting for a 28 year old bartender.
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  29. Nice counter argument, really changes my perspective on things.
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  30. StrikeWing, it is all about perspective. Piers Morgan had Alex Jones on his show and Jones acted like a fool. Morgan did not have to say a word. Kyle mocks republicans and makes fart noises, there is a reason why he has around 30,000 views a video, people don't take him serious.
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  31. StrikeWing, I am just pointing out how Kyle acts. That is the counter argument. He is going to do more harm than good being on Fox.
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  32. StrikeWing, it doesn't matter if he acts silly on Fox or not, people will look at his channel and see him act the way he does. Kyle has not debunked any claim on medicare for all. His healthcare argument is poor. I have posted many studies showing how off he is.
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  33. I have seen the studies and referenced them. I don't deny them, I just go deeper and many times reference what the studies actually say. For example, on the one about how blacks receive a 20% greater sentencing, that same study said that correlation does not equal causation. On the study about the 45,000 dying a year due to lack of healthcare access, another Harvard professor mentioned how numbers like that are hard to get due to variables such as the poor simply living less healthy lifestyles. Anyone can cherry pick a study and pull out one part of it. He never goes farther.
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  34. Kyle only has talking points on Medicare for all. He needs to talk to an actual expert.
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  35. amihart, so it is OK for Kyle to point to Nordic countries but people on the right cannot point to Venezuela or the USSR? Also, there are not multiple studies showing universal healthcare would be cheaper. Fact is that Kyle would not come up with an original argument. He will repeat his same talking points he always does.
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  36. amihart, I have seen those studies. On the $17 trillion one you are comparing numbers what factor in different variables. That $49 trillion factors in both private and public spending and is done by making the assumption that healthcare cost will grow at a certain rate, to simplified. The $32 trillion is just public spending, not private, and is an underestimate as mentioned in the study. You can't compare the two numbers. On the Koch study it said that the $32.6 trillion was an conservative estimate, chances are it would cost more. Also, it is only for public spending and does not include private spending. It does not account for the forcible increase in demand in healthcare with no increase in supply. It makes the assumption that doctors and hospitals will make less money. Also, you would have to more than double taxes in order to pay for it. How do you tell citizens in the US that? I encourage you to actually read the studies and not use talking points.
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