Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Meghan McCain Absolutely Obliterated In Debate On Ocasio-Cortez" video.

Algie, your argument is poor. Someone earning $5 million a year has a completely different financial situation than someone earning $30,000 a year. That person earning $5 million probably runs charities, a business and invests in it, is paid with stock options and so on. They probably have their money tied in stocks or in the banks which is money used to invest in other businesses and programs. Will that rich person suffer if you took that money from them? To a degree they will. But what will suffer more is the overall economy. If you take that money from them and say it was tied into stocks attached to healthcare now healthcare companies have to find other methods to obtain money which means either raising prices even more or lowering quality.
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When you break it down the US healthcare system is on par with other nations.
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Interdimensional Steve, the wait time argument is not idiotic. The government arbitrarily decides if your situation is "elective" or not. People have died on waiting lists in other countries, or have become financially worse. Also, wait times are an issue due to there being less incentives to be a specialist in other nations.
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Alex Henley, you are correct on healthcare.
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Algie, it does change. The financial situation of someone earning $5 million a year is completely different than someone earning $30,000 a year. For example, when I was earning $8/hr I worked as a cook at a restaurant. Now compare that to a colleague of mine who earns $200,000 a year. They are responsible for the finances of their clients, they are responsible for their well being, they are responsible for a lot and have to know a lot. A wealthy business owner creates many jobs and wealth for our society. Warren Buffet pays himself $100,000 a year. He does not have millions. He is worth millions because he pays himself through shares of his company. If you tax 90% of Buffet's income he will have only $10,000. That, again, is how their financial situation is different.
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Algie, there is a difference between wealth and income. Buffet is worth billions because he is the largest shareholder of his corporation. My wealth is negative because I have student loans. However, my financial situation is fine as I have a reliable car, three square meals, my own apartment, etc. Wealth is not income. Bezos earns $80,000 a year. He is worth billions because he is the largest shareholder of Amazon. That is where their wealth is. Saying you only create jobs for needs is true to a degree. But what is that need? Expanding is a need thus you create jobs that way. Making a better work environment for your workers is a need so creating jobs comes from that. If a business overworks their employees those employees will work elsewhere. There is always a demand for better goods and services. Bezos created Amazon as people demanded an easier way to shop. He opened warehouses up and created jobs to make shipping faster. Competition created jobs.
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No, I am laughing at them. The View are a bunch of old celebrities that live in the ultra leftist bubble of NYC. They have no connection with the common man. McCain is right, democrats who run on those positions are going to lose.
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Roads: 3/4 of funding for roads is state and local. Federal funding for roads can be done with zero income taxes. Bridges: Same as roads Fire departments: Ran and funded locally and 70% of fire fighters are volunteer Police: Ran and funded locally Public schools: Ran and funded locally Minimum wage: Keeps low skilled workers unemployed Zoning: Creating boarders is creating order Medicare: Running out of money SS: Running out of money National Parks: Can easily be ran locally Labor Unions: Ever heard of crony unionism? NASA: Can easily be ran locally Environmental protection: Can easily be ran locally and has been known to kill jobs and businesses Military: Constitutional Also, none of those are as complex as healthcare and education. You really can't compared. And saying those programs "work" is vague. I can shave a cat to remove fleas, that works. Is that the best route?
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Members of The View are elitists from New York and live in a bubble. They feel that people support those ideas but in reality don't. You get our of the bubble of NYC and LA area and they oppose those policies.
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Statistically less people are working multiple jobs. AOC is dangerous. However, people outside of NYC do not support her ideas. I hope democrats run on her position so they can lose.
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Kamron, I am not scared as if AOC represents the future of the "progressive" side than they have no chance to win the midwest. So far you won one election. Ben Jealous is going up against the incumbent. In the end you might win 5 elections, that is nothing. And those who win in Congress will become a joke.
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sacredbeastzenon, you can't predict the general election based on the primaries. Being from the midwest I can tell you many voted for Bernie in the primaries mainly for their hatred of Clinton.
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Mega X, people in the Midwest do not want higher taxes. To beat Bernie all you had to do was show the tax rates he will set and show the breadline clip over and over again. Trump would have won by a larger margin at that point.
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Xyz Same, adding to the demand in healthcare without increasing the supply would not save money. It is an economic fallacy to say universal healthcare would save money. Proposals to fund medicare for all is increasing the payroll tax. That would lead to lower wages as businesses would not want to give out raises as doing so means paying a higher payroll tax. Small businesses don't offer healthcare. You have to raise taxes on everyone unless you don't work.
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George Janeiro, they save money by lowering the quality. Just like I can save money on my rent by going to a one bedroom in the neighbor I live in and moving to a studio in the ghetto.
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Both sides had talking points. Saying "Norway" or "Denmark" is not an argument either. Many have broken down how they are not socialist countries, how their programs have many shortcomings, and how their programs won't work well in the US.
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LaviArray, the countries listed are not socialist countries and they do not do what Bernie and his supporters want. Countries like Norway, Denmark, Iceland etc. have lower corporate tax rates, no min. wage, have higher oil productivity, a free market when it comes to employer/employee relationships. Bernie and his fans want higher corporate taxes, a higher min. wage, less oil productivity, etc. You also have to consider the differences in culture those nations have and the fact that they have much smaller populations. You really can't compare them to the US and you can't say that what they do would work in the US. All Behar did was list countries without any details. McCain's argument had flaws but she is right, most in the midwest are not going to support the ideas of people like Bernie and AOC. Behar is another New Yorker that lives in a bubble and has no connection with people from the Midwest.
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OsefKincaid, the fire department is ran and funded locally. 70% of fire fighters are volunteer because we lack workers in that field. So thanks for bringing that up as a comparison. We lack fire fighters, what makes you think we will have enough doctors?
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Algie, I agree that the wage for someone worth billions is different, and that is my point. You just can't say "tax them at 90% and they will have millions" or something like that because you, unlike that person who earns $30,000, are not taxing income. You will have to tax their stock options which can harm the company. Now if you want to talk about how messed up and complicated our tax code is we can, but fact is this, rich people have completely different financial situation. Just because they have more money does not mean you can tax them more and claim they will still be fine. Businesses want to make working conditions better or they will lose good workers. Businesses do push for better working conditions. That is why they, without government regulations, offer lunch time and paid vacation. Robotics replacing workers is not bad, it frees up people to do other jobs with more skills.
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Algie, no one paid that 90% rate. In 1967 there were 155 Americans who earned over $200,000 that year that paid zero dollars in federal income taxes. I feel the federal tax code is too complex. I support going back to pre 1913 where only the states were taxed in proportion to the population. I would also support a federal flat income tax with a consumption tax. Keep it simple. You complain about how the rich don't pay, that is because of our complex tax code. We have gone down that path and because of politics we have a hard time getting out. To give an example of why during the last tax bill there was controversy in that republicans wanted to tax stipends for graduate students. Many grad students complained. I am a grad student myself and I supported it because I said that it was income and that it should be taxed. And that it would simplify the tax code. However, they did not want their stipend to be taxed. The reality is this, if you are going to create that loophole for grad students then you are going to have to allow loopholes for the rich. In the end they complain about loopholes for the rich but support loopholes for grad students. I want to remove all the loopholes. You want fairness, there it is. On automation and being left behind, sorry, but I support survival of the fittest. Learn a skill. Lunch breaks are not federally mandated. Many states do not require a lunch break. Look up on the Department of Labor's website the section entitled "Breaks and Meal Periods". It says "Federal law does not require lunch or coffee breaks." So no, lunch breaks are not federally mandated.
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Algie, lunch breaks are a law in some states but not others. In my state they are not but companies still offer it. There is a desire to have government, but you have to control government. You fear businesses being being over powering when government can become too large and be powerful and oppressive. That is why the founding fathers created the Constitution. It gave the frame work for the federal government to work in and gave rights to the states. 155 Americans not paying taxes does support that the rich did not pay the 90%. Those 155 paid zero dollars, chances are others paid far less than 90%.
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ruben villegas, roads and schools are ran and funded locally. Also, you can pay for all the roads in the US without an income tax. They are a drop in a bucket compared to healthcare and are nowhere as complex as healthcare. Last I checked my high school math teacher did not do years of medical school and residency to become a math teacher.
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uzumakiagelus, polls are unreliable. They are vague questions to complex issues. Sure, people may support medicare for all, but if you attach the tax to it than less people support it. Case in point, Coloradocare. Also, people want better healthcare and better education on both sides. They just have different ideas how to do it.
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nole 89, you just can't pay off student loan debt like that. Doing so will cause massive inflation to the economy.
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James S, universal healthcare would not save us money. And "free college" would cost more than $60 billion. And why shouldn't the government provide us phones?
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Jason Wooster, wishing death on people you disagree with. How "liberal" of you.
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Austin Stone, it isn't as easy as giving money away. You are increasing demand without increasing supply. Also, you will cause massive inflation by pumping that much money into the economy.
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Jonathan, they do have actual arguments against those individuals. You just dismiss them. You also move the goal posts to suit your needs. Let us look at the programs you listed Police: Locally ran and funded Firefighters: 70% of them are volunteer and they are locally ran and funded Education: Locally ran and funded Military: Constitutional and also they cannot enforce domestic law without consent of a governor And those programs are nowhere as complex as nor as expensive as healthcare. However, in our last conversation you admitted that you feel healthcare is not complex, especially mental healthcare. To you everything is easy.
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