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Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Cops Whine Like Entitled Brats In Press Conference" video.
Garner was nearly 400 pounds, had asthma and diabetes and an oversized heart. A St. Louis doctor said a bear hug would have caused him to die.
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@christaylor9095 I looked into it and I do not see it. I am not saying we should do some reform nor that there are incidents of bad policing. But what this cop said was correct. There are hundreds of millions of interactions with cops and civilians yearly. Now how many end in death? Around 1000 die a year by cops. Thus the chances of you being killed by a cop during an interaction is very minute. Consider that. Also consider that 10 times in 2019 and unarmed black individual was killed by the police. Seven were justified. With the other one was an accident by a black cop and with the other two the cops were charged with murder. So show me the problem? Just saying there is one but now giving points in how is not an argument.
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Really? One black guy gets killed by a cop due to the cop's poor practices and the left burns down the cities and demands to defund the police.
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@Bill Anderson there are around 1000 police killings a year. So were almost all of them innocent?
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A few handful of cases does not represent the norm.. That is the point of that guy's speech. Consider the millions of interactions with cops that end fine yearly.
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@Ellen Habteyonas with Arbery they were not cops. Also, in two situations there was a conflict of interest thus it had to be transferred to a third DA office which takes time. You act as if these things need to happen immediately. If cops protected cops the DA office locally would have took control of the case but he did not.
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Inside Voice I do not ignore nor dismiss them. To me they are rare and isolated incidents that should be treated as such.
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@Ellen Habteyonas a few problems there. One, they claimed citizen's arrest which immediately muddies the water. Next, the guy attacked them first based on the video. I do not agree with them waiting for him, but he did attack them first. Thus, the waters are now muddier. As for arresting them and then investigating, you cannot do that as that violates write of habeous corpus. You cannot arrest people for no reason. Doing so can have any lawyer argue unlawful arrest getting them released and then it being used in court to give them a lighter sentence. And investigation can only go so fast.
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@Ellen Habteyonas those "protesters" are committing obvious destruction and issues to the community. When they throw stuff at police that is clear violence. With those two individuals it was not clear. Again, citizen's arrest and the man attacking them. But the "protesters" arrested are rioters committing a clear crime. As for bail, it is when you are charged. You are first charged and then arrested. As for the citizen's arrest, it is not clear but a reason why they ended up being arrested was that the evidence is showing they were in the wrong.
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@thepants1450 I agree that is not how citizen's arrest works. But again, the situation was muddy at the times so they could not arrest them. After an investigation they were arrested. As for him "defending" himself, they were not pointing the guns at him. So he was arguably not in danger. Again, the situation was muddy. Not to be rude but many here will be very bad lawyers.
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@The Icon of Sin it isn't about small government but limited government we control. With the military it cannot enforce domestic law without consent of the governor. .With cops they are ran locally. Falls in like with limited government we can control.
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C W in 2019 there were 10 incidents of a black person being unarmed who were killed by the police. Seven of them were justified. Of the others one was an accident by a black cop and in the other two the cops were charged with murder. You guys act like these situation are the norm when they aren't. They are very rare and isolated events and should be treated as such. As for Taylor the FBI is investigating it. So action is taking place. What more do you want?
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@Milo Kaye one your first point that is what the police supposed to be as they are ran locally. Also, with that they will be held less accountable compared to police. While I feel police are not held accountable enough they are at least an organization where members of a community are not. On the second point, I do support more training. Being a government employee myself basically via the university our training is worthless. They give you a 2 hour session in how to teach college students and expect you to know how to do it. Also, as for arrest, if a situation leads to an arrest it can go severe. There are many cases in that. One reform I want are independent groups organizing to investigate the police to hold them accountable.
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C W cops have to report killings. So it is 10. Also, cops are a group that will support themselves just like BLM are defending themselves. I thought you guys supported representation? But hey, you tried.
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Inside Voice because all this started with George Floyd. And yes, there is justification for killing an unarmed person at times. In the seven I mentioned two, for example, were trying to run the cops over with their cars. That is attempted vehicular manslaughter. One was a black guy who was overpowering a female police officer. What should she do? Let her have head bashed in? Another a guy stole the cop's tazer and was using it one the cop. They were violent.
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@noalmonds6993 uh, they drove right to them. You know that cars have steering wheels where you can change their direction?
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@therongentille4412 by "armed" they mean with a gun. But if you want to go that route than the number of black individuals being unarmed and killed by cops is less than 10. So where is the issue? Also, if you want that standard as well the black guy who was clearly stronger than the female police officer is not unarmed either as they can, physically, kill them. Thus no one is unarmed. And you call me stupid?
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@therongentille4412 we need independent investigation groups because while in the eyes of the law we should be treated as equals, laws are enforced by humans and thus there will be flaws. i am saying it is not a problem as the incidents are rare and isolated. With that said they do happen still and thus we have to watch for it. So how am I contradicting myself?
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Logically progressive Garner was overweight and the stress caused his death. Answer me this? If Garner ran from the cops and had a heart attack then and die, would you blame the police? And yes, the Klan will support their members giving the representation. Not saying I agree with their actions. But here is the irony with you guys. You guys are so pro union as you feel people need to be represented, but when it comes to the cops you change your minds? You do know cops are sued all the time and thus need representation? It goes both ways. Both sides deserve representation.
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@dee8714 there are also non stop videos of cops having stuff thrown at them and rioters burning down businesses. It goes both ways. Now take normal situations and tell me how police brutality happens.
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@milhouserock they were arresting him and he refused to they had to take actions to arrest him. He was also not placed in a chokehold according to the autopsy. Garner was not cooperating. Floyd was which is why so many were against that.
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unknowning unknown it is a legit point. The autopsy showed he was in poor health and the stress caused him to die.
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beanie0112 he wasn't in a chokehold. Read the autopsy report.
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@trillionbones89 no, two doctors said it was because of his bad heart.
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@thebakery3996 it was not a chokehold, that is what the doctor said. You can have your arm around someone's neck and not choke them.
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@noirekuroraigami2270 uh, they don't have it because one, they don't need it and two, with cars they can travel farther.
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@van.deaux.1694 ok, you have pecks, I have Tex.
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Anzu Wyliei exactly
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@laxpaint how is the world moving on? What have you accomplished? All you have done is piss most Americans off. Have fun with four more years of Trump.
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@toast7969 If you looked into it he was a guy who was well over 300 pounds, had asthma and diabetes. As a St. Louis doctor said a bear hug would have killed him.
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@toast7969 just because it is ruled a homicide does not mean was illegal. A homicide is defined as a death by intentional act from person to person. He was intentionally arresting him which led to the death. And yes weight and health problems play a role. Say he ran from the cops and during that time he had heart attack? Would you feel the same? And excessive force? What do you want the cops to do? He was refusing to go to jail.
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@Reza-hz1ce he weighed almost 400 pounds and had asthma. I bet he had a hard time breathing just by walking. He was refusing to have the cuffs put on him and go to jail, that is resisting. And if you want cops to take ju-jitsu they will just kill people that way instead. And there are plenty of examples of cops holding down people without hurting them. You just pick the one of an obese man who died because of that.
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The cop isn't wrong. Consider all the interaction yearly with cops and how very few end in death. The chances are small. Consider in 2019 where 10 times a black guy who was unarmed was killed by cops. Out of them 7 were justified. Out of the others one was accidental by a black cop, and the other two the cops are being charged for murder. Meanwhile, in that same year 48 cops died. The problem with this issue is that no one is willing to have a discussion. Right now the left is completely blaming the cops as if they are all bad to the point they want to defund it. it is crazy.
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