Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Media Claims Bernie Is Just Like Trump For Comical Reason" video.
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@mrjollyguy25 1. And polls show that Bernie is trailing Biden. So what should I believe?
Here is the problem with polls. One, they are vague questions on complex issues being asked to people who are not experts. When you ask if someone supports M4A they may say yes. But if you extend that to high level of taxation, losing your healthcare insurance, and lowering quality of healthcare, support will drop. Polls show a snap shot, not a trend
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/howcan-a-poll-of-only-100/
Second issue is that polls don't show how passionate they are about an issue. 70% may support M4A but if the 30% who oppose it go out and vote, out of the 70% only 20% come out and vote M4A will lose. You see this very well in the gun issue. Many may support background checks, but when placed to a vote it failed in Maine and NV passed it by only 0.45%.
Polls are flawed and don't show reality. I would suggest stop pointing at them.
2. I do feel corruption exist which is why I want to limit government, not expand it. But every problem is not because of corruption. It is far more complex than that. There are legit reasons to oppose Bernie Sanders that goes way beyond corruption. Corruption is just you dismissing the other side.
3. It isn't if those ideas are popular, it is that they were being done before Bernie was a household name.
4. States are actually less of an obstacle. States get things done far more efficiently than the federal government. Look how long it took to get healthcare reform in general at the federal level? Many decades and after it Obamacare is being stripped away. States pass thing far easier than the federal government. Also, why did 80% said no in CO?
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@mrjollyguy25
1. Kyle doesn't cover that exact argument. He points to a vague poll that does not get into details of M4A. None of the polls talk about saving money, or choosing your own doctor. As for quality, as Prof. Scott Atlas said in his book "In Excellent Health" the US is far superior in advanced care which is true. We are the best when it comes to treating people with advanced care. Our problems is that one, our cost are high, and two, the very poor do suffer. In other nations the very sick suffer. Every nation has problems. So no, those nations don't out rank us in quality. Kyle hardly scratches the surface when it comes to healthcare. He just take one stat, throws it out there, and makes a very strong conclusion on it. I can dig much deeper and cite many sources in doing so showing how strong our healthcare system is and that we should improve on the system we have and how single payer systems have many problems such as up to 7000 people dying a year in Australia waiting for elective surgery, people going blind in the UK being denied eye surgery, and people dying being denied heart surgery in Canada.
2. Expanding the government means it has more power to sell. This is what radical left wingers are. They are the wife in an abusive relationship where instead of getting out of it they decide to have a kid with the man. With government it is too big and thus it is bought out, and your solution is to give it more power to sell.
3. I am not missing the point. The min. wage has been around for years and is a part of our society. Other issues are not. Good luck telling our society that you will pay more in taxes for M4A, lose your healthcare insurance, and see lower quality. Our society will not accept that.
4. You really didn't give me concrete examples. Again, the federal government if far less efficient. It took Medicare 40 years to finally cover prescription benefits
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2690175/
States used to manage mental healthcare until the Community Mental Health Act which made mental healthcare worse. Under that plan only half of the facilities were open. Also, you contradicted yourself. You said that many states are passing min. wage increases where at the federal level they aren't. Based on your thought process the federal government should have passed the min. wage increase long ago.
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@mrjollyguy25 , Uh, healthcare rankings. Do you even know how healthcare rankings are developed? I doubt it. The WHO was criticized so much that they have not developed another healthcare ranking in around 20 years. Also, experts disagree with those rankings such as Prof. John Schneider and Prof. Robert Ohsfeldt where he is quoted in saying that healthcare rankings are arbitrary.
As for the 45,000 stat, there are flaws there. Amenable mortality is something every nation struggles with. Now you may say "well let us measure that". But experts will disagree in using that as an indicator of healthcare systems strength.
https://jech.bmj.com/content/67/2/139
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20823843
Next, as prof. Katherine Baicker pointed out, those 45,000 a poor and bad health is associated with being poor. So the question becomes do they die due to lack of access or due to being in bad health to begin with? To add, there are higher rates of obesity, type II diabetes and smoking with poor, all self inflicted. And even with access to healthcare their physical health did not improve as pointed out in this study
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1212321
To extend, you have to consider what their health situation was. In the book "Being Mortal" the author there talks about how people point to modern medicine to live another 5 or 10 years but in reality they will live only another 5 or 10 months .So if those 45,000 receive care, but live only 5 more months sucking up limited resources, is that a success?
2. The problem is an abusive government. Giving it more power is not going to solve the problem. It will make it worse as now it has more power to sell.
3. M4A will only save money under Bernie's plan because it cuts pay by 40%. When that happens you have to consider limits on access and quality dropping. Other nations save money because they limit how much care one can receive. For example, we offer more CT scans per capita. Other nations offer less MRIs where the US has three times as many MRIs per capita compared to other developed nations.
I am willing to admit that M4A may be the best route, but something has to give.
4. How is the federal level an obstacle? The states used to manage many types of healthcare. Before the passage of the Community Mental Health Act the states managed mental healthcare.
Do we have big problems? That is another problem with the far left. They claim the problems are big but in my opinion they aren't. They are problems but we can fix them within the systems we have, not dismantle them and replace them.
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