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Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Corporate Democrat Blocks Single Payer Healthcare In California" video.
There was no plan to pay for it. This is smart as CA has enough financial problems.
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If you were to plot state GDP as a function of population you will see a strong correlation. CA has a large economy because it has the largest population in the country with the largest economy. Really, think here.
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Single payer fails once again. Really, when are ultra liberals going to learn that it is not what the people want.
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80% of voters in Colorado voted against single payer. Stop citing the polls. If universal healthcare is so popular then why did so many vote against it in Colorado? Why do so many politicians vote against it and keep their jobs?
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CA also has the lowest literacy rate, higher poverty rate and highest Gini coefficient.
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Justin Time, those polls sample around 1000 people. Coloradocare had over 2.6 million people voting for it with around 2.1 million people saying no to it. Now which sample size is larger? 1000 or 2.6 million? Which sample size will give you a more accurate result?
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" if you feel the coverage is not sufficient you can choose to get supplemental insurance just like in every other country that has a single payer system. many individuals in those other countries do this. " You are literally asking people in the middle class to pay double at that point when they can't afford it. That is not a solution. 90% of students attend public schools for a reason.
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Justin, you are paying double. You are paying higher taxes for the public option thus you don't have the money for the private option. Most people don't get the supplemental insurance because they can't afford it. " It's generally not the lower or middle class who buys supplemental insurance, it's the upper middle / upper class who want care above and beyond the minimum level of care." I know meaning the rich benefit where the middle class gets dragged down.
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Justin, what you do is force the middle class to use an inferior system. That is not giving everyone "good healthcare". https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/-the-business-of-health_110115929760.pdf
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Read that book I cited. It is full of facts.
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Trent, read the book I cited. Our outcomes are on par with other countries.
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"On average, we don't live as long" The book covers that. If you remove car accidents and murders the US is number one in life expectancy. There are many factors that influence those numbers. The difference between each country is minute. Based on that you can't say that one country has a better healthcare system. You need to stop looking at just the raw data because that is what it is, raw.
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" We also have an 11.3% uninsured rate resulting in 20,000 to 40,000 deaths annually due to lack of health care." 40,000? That's it? That is 0.01% of the population. In every system people die because of shortcomings. 0.01% is tiny and is actually a success.
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Trent, if you are going to use my standard then you have to agree that the US healthcare system is on par with other countries. When the numbers are minute in differences you can't say that the reason why those differences exist is only because of healthcare systems. You can do statistical analysis to show that.
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Mr. Orca32, 40,000 is only around 0.01% of the population. Even at that you cannot say that those 40,000 die only because of lack of access to healthcare. 35,000 die in traffic accidents a year. Now does that mean they all were in unsafe cars that should be recalled? You can't take the extreme case and try to change the norm with it. Saying that 40,000 die a year is a problem with healthcare is similar to finding a white guy in the NBA and saying the NBA is diverse when it consists of mainly tall black men. And those polls are phone polls, which are flawed to begin with, of only around 1000 people. 2.6 million voted in Colorado. That is a much larger sample size that shows what people actually support.
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Trent, the US spends around 40% of their food dollar on take out food. Japan spends around 20% and the UK spends around 33%. The US eats a lot of unhealthy, greasy food with high sodium as a result as take out food is generally less healthy. The plays a role in people having bad health. https://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-6/how-do-united-states-consumer-expenditures-compare-with-the-united-kingdom-and-japan.htm
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"it is only deaths due to lack of health care," You cannot, with high certainty make that claim. They are people who are poor and have bad health to begin with due to life choices. 45,000 people is 0.01% of the population. That is a very small portion of the population that die for several reasons. "noone in other countries goes bankrupt from health care" They just die or end up worse off physically because of low quality care or wait times. You are desperately trying to make it sound like the everyone in other countries all receive high care and are all prancing around with no problems. They have problems. A man in the UK died recently bleeding to death waiting for an ambulance. But I guess according to you he was fine because he 1. did not go bankrupt 2. was covered in the end, he just had to wait his turn
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Mr.Orca32, 45,000 people is a minute amount of people. No system is ideal, people are going to die because of shortcomings. Even if we cover them on paper they will die because of wait times or low quality. That is what you have to realize. Everyone has access to a K-12 education, but why do we still have people who can't qualify for college? Everyone has access to the police, but home break ins still happen. That 45,000 stat is meaningless in the big picture. Sure, it is bad they die, but people die for many reasons due to shortcomings in a system. At that point you might as well ask why don't we just teleport everywhere?
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