Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "EPA Head Won't Say Climate Change Is A Threat 'In Any Way'" video.
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"Are you ever going to review videos from Potholer54 channels I referenced for you?"
I have seen many potholer54's videos. He is a journalist, not a scientist. He has never published any scientific work in his life. He is not better qualified at presenting the issue then anyone else on Youtube. And his presentation in his videos displays that he
1. has a remedial understanding of science at best (he drew a CO2 molecule with single bonds instead of double bonds, very careless of him)
2. He is very condescending which makes it hard to take him serious
3. He goes after easy targets. When pressed about a video by Ivar Giaever his comment was
"I'm interested to know why you are confused. This guy is an expert in
electron tunneling in semiconductors, he has never published or even
studied climatology in his life. If he said you can catch herpes from
eating margarine would you believe him, simply because he's a Nobel
laureate? People seem to have this belief that as soon as someone wins a
Nobel prize he must be an expert in every branch of science he's never
studied, and I don't know where they get that idea."
What he did there was completely avoid discussion on the topic by pulling a logical fallacy. He criticized Steven Crowder for not wanting to debate him but when he is pressed himself he dodges the topic.
While he does present many peer reviewed references in the end the issues with climate change are
1. How much is man playing a role?
2. Is it even bad?
The references potholer54 gives don't even give definitive answers to those questions as you will be hard pressed to find a scientist to give definitive answers to those questions. potholer54 has become an annoyance in Youtube because alarmists are praising him when he, himself is not really an alarmist. But he rarely calls them out and goes after people he perceives to be deniers who are a dying breed at this point. Almost everyone accepts climate change and accepts that many is playing a role. The alarmists are the problems.
"Why on earth would you reference Hollywood movies? (WTAF?) They aren't real. You do know movies aren't real-life, correct?"
I know, it just displays that the fear mongering of climate change and global warming has been happening for decades. The fear mongering hinders progress. No different then how the religious right has stood in the way of progress because of their religious beliefs, fear mongering from the left on climate change is standing in the way of progress.
"Who cares what Bernie personally knows about science? Bernie is a politician. "
That misrepresents science but yet people follow him and believe the words he says.
"Sheesh, always on about Bernie, Bernie, Bernie......can you talk about anything else?"
Bernie is showing how radical the left has become. The fact that he won states in the primaries is scary for the democratic party as they are becoming extremists at this point. When the democrats were moderates they were great. Bill Clinton was a great president and he was a moderate. Here we are around 20 years later and we have people pushing Bernie to run again.
In 1994 Herman Cain and Bill Clinton had a discussion on healthcare. During that discussion both Cain and Clinton ran through numbers. Clinton had his numbers, was respectful and at the very least pretended to seem to care about Cain's business. Even though I agreed with Cain in the end Clinton had an approach I can respect.
During the Cruz vs Sanders debate Sanders was approach with a similar question from a hair salon owner. Sanders' response was simply "screw you, pay up". He showed no concern for the business owner nor had any facts or data to back up his ides.
The fact that guy won states in the primaries is scary for the democrats. At this point he is not going away and the democrats need to just give it up in 2020 and run him so he can get beat, badly, to Trump showing people that no one wants socialism and then push for a more moderate candidate in 2024. Essentially, Bernie set the democrats 8 years.
"At least Bernie understands what the word "consensus" means - How well
do you think Trump understands science?? Or really anything for that
mater?"
Trump is a very intelligent individual. You don't have that much success in the private sector without being intelligent. People who view him as incompetent are projecting. He understands what he is doing. As far as the "consensus" is concerned that has been debunked long ago. It was based on selected publications with vague interpretations. But again, none of them are saying that climate change is a major threat to our planet. Bernie is making that claim, scientists aren't.
" Trump was GIVEN $300 Million and is now over 1 BILLION in debt to
Wall-street and couldn't find his way out of a paper-bag with out
assistance from his wanton hoard of non-scientific and
selfishly-motivated "Yes-Men" and WILL likely be going to jail."
Trump is not in debt.
"There is actual, real, tenable, verifiable evidence for you to learn, if
you could just come off you high-horse and have a look around - even if
just a little."
I have seen the evidence.
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Ttocs Drow, at times I can't see comments for reasons I am too busy to care about. I saw part of your comment in the email and that's it. The part I saw had you acting in a somewhat arrogant way. But I see your new comment in its entirety.
"Why? Why must he be questioned? Please demonstrate where any data,
outside what can only be described as simple clerical error, is
incorrect empirically please."
I never denied the data. The point is that alarmists point to him as some sort of expert when in the end he is a journalist. Also, he does not call out alarmists who are the real problem right now with climate change. You will be hard pressed to find a scientist argue that climate change is a major catastrophe and a threat to this planet.
"That guy has close to 200 videos, amounting to something like 1000 hrs.
most on climate change and causation which are data based, including the
religious whom believe a "god" will fix everything, and the best you
can do is find him guilty of not drawing carbon correctly and "avoiding"
the literal comedian Ivar Giaever??"
Calling out people who claim that God will fix everything is pointless because climate change deniers are a dying breed. Many on the right, including Pruitt and potholer54's favorite boy Steven Crowder admits it is happening, and that man is contributing. Just basic thermodynamics says that. The issues remain are how much is man contributing and is it even bad? But, potholer54 is doing the equivalent of a all state high school basketball player playing basketball with a midget. That all state player is pretty good, probably not good enough to go to college. But he will dominate against a midget. potholer54 is going after easy targets. However, Crowder has had an actual scientist on his show and potholer54 is no where to be seen. Also, Ivar Giaever is not a "comedian", he has a PhD and works in physics. If I am going to take you seriously you have to at the very least respect his credentials. But with potholer54 he avoids challenging individuals that are actual scientists as he would not be able to match wits with them. Thus he acts in a condescending way in order to mask his inabilities.
"Why dont you rip on Giaever? You quote has potholer saying (Correctly)
that he is a physicist and is unlearned on climate change."
That quote was from potholer54. So based on his reasoning potholer54 is a journalist and thus is unlearned on climate change. Now to answer your question I am not concerned about Dr. Giaever as the discussion is about potholer54 and his inabilities. And when pressed on the issues when actual scientists give their opinions he dodges the issue.
"Do you believe Giaever should be given a chance to argue his case with
irrelevant experience and without the proper body of knowledge from a
completely unrelated field required in order to properly portray?"
Again, potholer54 does not have experience in the field either. He is a journalist. He has zero publications. You wanting to not take Dr. Giaever's opinion seriously because you feel he is "unlearned" in the issue but take potholer54's opinion seriously is a double standard on your part.
"Do you think he may be entitled to an error or two?"
Everyone can make errors.
"So why have you not bothered to have him make a correction? "
Because doing so will be a waste of time. Based on how he responded to that other person's comment it is clear that he is a person who will avoid a deep discussion on the topic and that he lacks knowledge of science beyond remedial courses. I can gather plenty of information and tear him apart, but at that point what is it worth? Even if I change his opinion that is just one guy and I gain nothing in the end. To me it is clear who he is and how his followers are ignorant beyond repair.
"Please ask him a question and get back to me. He has responded to me on clarifications."
Ask him what? I am a doctoral candidate in physical chemistry. I have a deeper understand of science then him. I am just pointing out double standards. I have responded to that comment he made about Dr. Giaever and he did not respond to me. I clearly saw his flaws and he ran away. He much rather take on people he feel are inferior to him as opposed to challenging himself.
"So far, you have cited two things, easy targets upon one individual and another being condescending.
These things are not contributors to him being unable to communicate with accuracy on his life-body of work."
Again, he is a journalist, not a scientist. His "life-body of work" is regurgitating information that he reads. He hasn't done any actual research on climate change beyond reading some papers.
" You also "believe" he dodged on an single issue but I can prove you have taken that out of context."
He did dodge the issue. He is so set on going after deniers but he will not make a video about other scientists giving their opinions.
"You cannot take him seriously because it would simply have you adjusting
your narrative, which just shows again, you have no room for growth or
betterment, in this area and are truly stuck in the mud, I kno those
like you, unable to adjust old thinking, in the face of new evidence,
really are the problem with the world."
What is my narrative? Tell me. I am interested in hearing what you feel I am thinking. This would be interesting.
"Again, he is accurately compiling facts from a vast body of knowledge difficult for the layman to compile as an individual."
Interpreting facts is challenging and something he is OK at. But again, attacking deniers is an easy target.
"He is an expert at climate change science journalism, which is what he
does professionally and reports to others like you and I, except at a
much higher government level audience."
He is a journalist with a limited background in science. Climate science expands many fields beyond geology (his field of study). It expands over physics, chemistry, astronomy and so on. Subjects I am sure he has essentially no understanding of compared to people in those fields. Can he describe photosynthesis using quantum coherence? I doubt it.
"But this is not good enough for you, because YOU somehow know the
"truth", don'cha? Your truth is that C.C is "its no big deal".
How very scientific minded indeed..........(HA!)
I"m sorry to say sir, but you are wrong.
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How am I wrong? What makes you think that climate change is a major catastrophe? What makes you think that the current climate change is a threat? You do know that the ecosystem can evolve, right?
"On the other hand, you believe in a man whom cannot tell the truth in almost any way imaginable. "
Who?
"He didn't even realize it would be a hard job! "
If you are talking about Trump that is every president. Ever noticed how every president comes in young and energetic and leaves beaten down? That is because they go in expecting a somewhat easy (subjectively) job but find out how stressful it is. You really don't know how hard something is until you do it. The fact he admits it shows how honest he is and why he won. He is not afraid to speak his mind.
"He has already take more vacations at a far higher cost than other presidents"
I am a firm believer that no president takes a vacation.
"Even in the wake if last nights terror attack, only one tweet was
presidential, saying the US will stand-by ready with aid if needed,"
Because we had one a couple weeks ago. Responding to every terror attack will get old real quick. How about the UK fix their own problems?
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