Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Bernard Sanders Meets Joseph Rogan, They Have An Experience" video.

It was a joke. Softball questions, no details, nothing but talking points.
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It was a joke. No challenging questioning and also all Bernie did was spew his talking points. How will he take on pharmaceutical companies? How will he take on Wall Street? Just saying he will do it is not a plan.
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@colm9419 , healthcare is a complex issue. I will admit that M4A might be the best solution. I don't think so, but I am open to the idea as long as the supporters of it are willing to have the difficult conversation. The problem is that the far left is not willing to have difficult conversations and simply feel that M4A will cover every with the same level of care we have now at a lower price. That is 100% not true. We can cover everyone and if we have the same level of care the cost will be huge. Bernie's plan wants to cover everyone but lower costs by 40% with a 40% less payout. So at that point you have to sacrifice something and at that point it will be quality and access. Here is the reality, nations with single payer systems have a system that works well for very basic care and does offer something to the poor where in the US the poor do go bankrupt and there is some evidence that people end up dying. But in those nations the cost is the fact that people are denied advanced treatment and end up worse off or even dying. People are dying in Canada being denied heart surgery, up to 7000 people are dying a year in Australia waiting for "elective surgery". People are going blind in the UK being denied cataract surgery. In the US the poor do suffer with bankruptcies and in some cases death, but the very sick do get care and we have higher survival rates for severe illnesses. That is because when we seek care we get all the testings offered to us. Other nations don't do that. For example, when I hurt my knee every analysis showed it was a high chance it would be simply a dislocation. But they gave me an MRI where I waited three days and got it to look for farther damage, there was none. Now compare that to this story https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2486789/Natasha-16-complained-headaches-She-died-13-doctors-failed-diagnose-brain-tumour.html If you look at the statistics chance are that he case was simply a migraine. In the US they would have offered an MRI much sooner and she would not have waited a long time increasing her chance of living. . Reality is something has to give. With single payer yes the poor will benefit, but the very sick will suffer and some will suffer being denied advanced care. In the US the very sick get treated and cured and advanced testing does catch those rare cases something is more severe than expected, but the poor suffer. This is where the difficult conversations begin. Statistically, what is best for society? Also, what does society really want? Just look at the US. Yes, our poor go bankrupt and in some cases end up dying, but consider how many are poor due to not being responsible. And also consider how the poor are in bad health because of poor lifestyle choices where, as outlined in this article, even with access to care their health is still poor https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1212321 But on the flip side people who are very sick are typically old and are close to death to begin with. As mentioned in the book "Being Mortal" people seek modern medicine to live another 5 or 10 years but really live another 5 or 10 months. And how much do the very sick really produce compare to the very poor? And with advanced testing, catching that instant where a situation is worse than expected is rare. These are the difficult points the far left refuses to take on. If M4A, under Bernie's plan, is the route to go you have to convince millions of Americans that their taxes will go up and the access to many advance form of care will drop no matter how sick you are. And as for rationing, here is a good article on that https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3415127/
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@MrHewlettcraphard , how am I a lost cause? Because I ask the difficult questions? I have admitted that maybe M4A is the route to go, but supporters of it have to be willing to have the challenging conversations. When I go very simple on Bernie's ideas and ask about the NCAA and the people responding have no clue how the NCAA function that is disturbing. What makes me think that they understand healthcare?
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@mrjollyguy25 , it isn't about picking out finer details. It is exactly what Hickenlooper said. Bernie wants to throw out a plan which will cause major changes in the system where everyone else will have to pick up the pieces. I gave the NCAA as an example showing how that system will have to radically change within current laws in place. Say we pay athletes? Do you tax the income they earn or not? How much do you pay them? What will be the restrictions? And that is just one of many examples. Take enrollment. Say everyone in AZ wants to attend ASU. At what point do you deny people due to lack of space? Now you are denying qualified people who can sue ASU. Who will handle that? College is an easy one though. Healthcare is very complex that involves life or death situations. If you can't answer the difficult questions related to tuition free college how can I expect you to understand the very challenging issues of M4A. One being that do we serve one person at the expense of another? At what point do we cap how much Medicare will cover causing people to suffer and possibly die? Back to college, sure students are in debt, but how much is it their fault? Is it really a crisis to begin with? How about we use K-12 to teach students proper money management skills as opposed to radically changing the system? These are many issues that the far left ignores.
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Wait, I thought the world was going to end in 12 years?
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It was a waste of time. All Bernie did was spew his talking points. Saying "take on wall street" or "take on the pharmaceutical companies" with no details typical Bernie. He had an hour to explain his plans but didn't. Also, the questions were softball questions.
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@johnimusic12 , saying you will go after someone with no details is not an argument.
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@snapgab , saying the challenging questions are BS to push a narrative is shallow. There are many concerns with Bernie's plan that will cause many messes in this nation. The problem with Bernie fans is that when Bernie is challenged they call them right wing talking points.
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@runningbear6391 , Bernie is in it for himself. Either he is ignorant from a small state and feels promising free shit will get him elected, or he does want to destroy this nation and benefit by blaming the "greed" in the private sector.
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@electric6877 , and he donated that money to a needy cause......oh.....wait, he just pocketed it?
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@hrmIwonder , negotiate how? And what will be the fallout if we force companies to charge a lower price? How will it limit our R&D, our supply, our accessibility? And again, negotiate how? Do you really trust the federal government to negotiate drug prices?
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@electric6877 , nothing wrong with him saving money except he wants to tax the rich at a high rate taking their money. For the time being why doesn't he lead by example and donate a large portion of his money?
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@hrmIwonder , and those nations lack in R&D. And no, most R&D comes from the private sector, not government.
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@hrmIwonder , and saying other nations do it is not really an argument. Do you really want our corrupt federal government negotiating prices?
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@hrmIwonder , you really don't know how R&D works do you? Have you ever done research at a university?
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@electric6877 , doesn't matter what he supports, he needs to lead by example.
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I saw the JRE clips, they have a bad upvote ratio.
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@Thomas Dendtler , he is fighting for himself.
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@Thomas Dendtler , with no details. As Hickenlooper said, Bernie wants to throw a radical plan out there and leave everyone else to pick up the pieces.
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@chrishernandez3699 , my mind is way more expanded than Kyle's.
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@PittsburghSonido , they are vague.
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@ajgonzalez5236 , I have seen them, they are vague and leave out a lot of details. As Hickenlooper said, Bernie wants to throw a plan out there and leave everyone else to pick up the pieces. Go the simple route of tuition free colleges. How do you handle the following 1. The NCAA 2. Enrollment 3. Lack of instructors 4. Increases in rent due to increase in students Take M4A. Bernie is not willing to have the difficult conversation on statistics on who should live or die. In the US our very sick have higher survival rates compared to other nations, but the poor do go bankrupt. In other nations they have no bankruptcies, but very sick people do die or become worse off due to rationing. Unless you are willing to pay a shit ton of money healthcare has to be rationed and you have to have difficult conversations on who should live and die and why through statistics. Bernie is dangerous.
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@mrjollyguy25 , I give details. Here, how about you answer this simple point. With tuition free college how do you handle the NCAA? Where is that in Bernie's plan? That is a simple example, never mind healthcare.
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@mfallen4277 , Bernie got his position out 3 years ago. He isn't unknown now.
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@mrjollyguy25 , do you even know how the NCAA operates? It is based on scholarship limits. Athletes, especially at larger schools, are paid already. You clearly have no clue how the NCAA operates which is my point, Bernie and his his fans put zero thought into their ideas.
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David Ortiz , for many reasons. Many students work in the NCAA and gain experience. I, myself worked for the football team and gained experience. So do student managers, students in media, advertising, etc. But besides that do you even know how the NCAA functions? There are three division, I, II and III. Each one is based on the number of scholarships a team is allowed to offer the students. If you make college tuition free you remove that part of the program, so how do you handle the changes in the NCAA? The fact you don't know how the NCAA operates is exactly my point that Bernie's plan has no thought into it.
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@mrjollyguy25 , ok, so how does the NCAA afford those benefits? Also, how do you handle Title IX law where if you pay the starting QB of Clemson something you have the pay the back up softball catcher the same? What about schools that can't afford to pay as stipend? How do you prevent larger schools from hoarding all the athletes? And who manages this? You have to dot the I's and cross the T's. This is exactly what Hickenlooper was talking about. Bernie wants to throw a plan out there and have others pick up the pieces.
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Kylem , athletics is crucial to many people's education. You have student trainers who prepare in becoming a trainer in the future. You have those who work in media. You have those who work in marketing.
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@ralfphelps8365 , Bernie is a radical though.
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@ft4903 , it will.
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@mrjollyguy25 , the reality is this, Bernie and his fans' platform is this 1. There are problems 2. The solutions are easy 3. We don't pursue them because of ignorance, corruption or bigotry. When you start out like that you have little room to grow and expand which is the problem with Bernie and why he is dangerous.
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@ft4903 , you didn't. Adding an 5% increase in the economy will cause large inflation.
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@Luna_and_Miles , we don't have details. Bernie complained about time constraints in debates but in that interview he literally said the same things he always does.
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