Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Doctor Pummels Fox Hosts Into Submission On Medicare For All" video.

  1. This doctor had nothing but talking points that can easily be countered. Pointing to polls and pointing to broad stats like life expectancy and saying other nations have better results with no real evidence are not arguments.
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  2. @Francesco Salvatore , I love how people call me a troll despite me giving legit arguments. So a troll to you is someone you disagree with?
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  3.  @jeremiahbarnes6313  , also, when you remove car accidents and murders the US becomes number 1 in life expectancy. You can't make an argument with raw stats like you are. You have to weigh them which is difficult to do.
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  4. @Francesco Salvatore , I consider all arguments, my problem here is that people on the far left have arguments that are very shallow and poor but push for radical ideas on pure ignorance. Take Jeremiah Barnes for example, he is only looking at overall life expectancy to form his argument instead of some life expectancy that takes into account life style choices which is impossible to do. It is a poor argument. This doctor is doing the same thing. He is saying other nations have better outcomes where Prof. Scott Atlas wrote a book in 2011 that argues against that. I am all for improving our healthcare system, but to do that people on the far left, like Kyle and his fan base, need to come to the middle.
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  5.  @Humanistic_  , mostly economic issues. Most of your problems related to healthcare are due to those on the left allowing the federal government to get involved.
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  6.  @swissarmyknight4306  , why do you point to Somalia? I can point to N. Korea if you want me to. How about you develop a better argument.
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  7.  Benghazi gaming  , even with going to doctors their physical health won't improve. This was shown in the following study https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1212321 A major problem in our nation is that we are simply less healthy compared to other nations mainly due to poor lifestyle choices. For example, we are number 1 in obesity rates of OECD nations. Also, saying Medicare for all will save money is grossly oversimplifying the issue as you really can't determine the actual cost. And throughout history the federal government has been very poor at money management. Look the Community Mental Health Act and how that ended up costing the federal government more than projected and made our mental healthcare in this nation worse.
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  8.  @jeremiahbarnes6313  , and I say his argument is poor. That is similar to saying that someone is a great baseball player because they hit a lot of homeruns. You are ignoring batting average, defense, and where they play. In stats you have to realize there are many factors at play, not just one. You are saying that life expectancy is directly correlated, 1 to 1, to healthcare with nothing else at play. You can't do that.
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  9. A lot of healthcare are not life or death situations.
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  10. How so?
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  11.  @Humanistic_  there are many
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  12.  @hhiippiittyy  , the federal reserve caused the financial crisis.
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  13.  @Humanistic_  , CA has the highest poverty rate.
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  14.  @Humanistic_  , CA, when adjusted for inflation, is number 1 in poverty rates. https://www.census.gov/hhes/povmeas/methodology/supplemental/research/Renwick_GeographicAdjustmentsJuly2011_WEA.pdf
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  15.  @hhiippiittyy  , the US is the world leader. And what "right wing economics"?
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  16.  @hhiippiittyy  , what do you want me to Google?
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  17.  @GordieKat  , how is profit incentive bad?
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  18. There are plenty of arguments
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  19.  Derek Hitt  , nice way to shut down an opponent.
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  20.  Derek Hitt  , you seem scared of me.
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  21. Increases in demand leads to higher costs
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  22.  @jeremiahbarnes6313  , there are many factors outside of healthcare that influence life expectancy. For example, lifestyle choices play a role. The US is number 1 in OECD nations in obesity rates. Higher obesity means lower life expectancy and more health problems. You can't just point to life expectancy and say that is an argument as there are factors outside of healthcare that influence it.
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  23.  @jeremiahbarnes6313  , I agree there is room fro learning. I am not saying the US system is without flaws. My point to you is that you can't just point to overall life expectancy and make that as a solid argument as there are other factors at play.
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  24.  @jeremiahbarnes6313  , we can compete with them if we weigh out the stats in a certain way. We have higher obesity rates compared to those nations. If we weigh those out than we can have comparable life expectancy. Or as Prof. Robert Oshfeldt did in removing car accidents and murders. How is our life expectancy falling? You are pointing at a smalls segment in a large time scale. Other developed nations saw a decrease in life expectancy as well. The reality is that healthcare is very complex and you need a lot of data for it. Even with it it is still hard to form certainty in any system.
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  25. @Francesco Salvatore , what is right and what is wrong? The US system arguably works as well, what is your point?
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  26.  @michaelk.jensen1611  , the stat of life expectancy is weak evidence. The poll is not evidence as polls are vague questions on complex issues being asked to people who are not expert on them. Even at that, how much do they value Medicare for all is not mentioned as well. They may value medicare for all, but if they value lower taxes more they will vote for that. Even at that we don't run our nation on mob rule.
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  27. @Francesco Salvatore , your idea is not possible right now and over simplifies the issue. Resources are limited and many people are in bad health due to poor life style choices. Work in healthcare some day and see the people we keep alive who are in terrible shape due to their own ignorance. One of my students works in pharmacy and she complains about how ignorant many people are when it comes to medication. Another one of my former students and friend is a nurse and complains how people do terrible things to themselves to end up in a hospital and refuse to do what doctors tell them to get better. I want the highest quality of healthcare for as many as possible, I just understand doing that is not easy.
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  28.  @jeremiahbarnes6313  , researchers argue all the time the proper way to analyze data, that is what makes this issue complex. Our fall in life expectancy is minute compared to growth over years. You can't take a few years and compare it to decades and expect it to be the norm.
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  29.  @jeremiahbarnes6313  , why should we look at Japan? What should we look at Japan for? They have a higher suicide rate than we do? There is nothing inherently wrong with looking at other nations, but you have to give specifics.
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  30.  @jeremiahbarnes6313  ,as for my claim, as a scientist myself I live that life where researchers view data differently.
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  31.  @jeremiahbarnes6313  , obesity is due to life style choices. That is a culture issues. It isn't that easy to fix. How do scientists view data differently? To give a small example I am a physicist. I view everything as a physical change. A chemist may view something as a chemical change but i will say that in the end it is all physical. That is a small example.
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  32.  @DescartesRenegade  , this doctor has talking points.
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  33.  @michaelnedelcu9618  , healthcare rankings are arbitrary. One can easily argue the US has the best healthcare system.
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  34.  @jeremiahbarnes6313  , experimental.
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  35.  @michaelnedelcu9618  , read the book "In Excellent Health" by Stanford Prof. Scott Atlas. I know reading is something difficult for the far left to do but that is my suggestion.
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  36. Healthcare rankings are arbitrary. Do you even know the methods in developing those healthcare rankings?
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  37.  @willbrinkley4041  , our infant mortality is high and our life expectancy is low because of, arguably, our high obesity rates due to our poor lifestyle choices. Higher obesity rates means higher chance of premature births which increases the risk of infant mortality. Higher obesity means more health complications that can lead to an early death. You can't just point at raw data like life expectancy and infant mortality because factors outside of healthcare influence those numbers. That is why no academic sources actually create these healthcare rankings as anyone can do a legit analysis on the stats and come up with any ranking they want. That is why only special interest groups like the WHO create these rankings, they are essentially pushing propaganda.
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  38.  @flaviusaetius5701  , their rankings are arbitrary. Do you even know how it was created? Noticed how only special interest groups with a motive are the only ones creating these rankings and not academic sources? Anyone can do a legit analysis on the stats and create any ranking they want.
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  39.  @ft4903  , I do bring up specifics. These rankings usually weigh overall life expectancy high (as in around 50%) where many factors outside of healthcare influence overall life expectancy. For example, two professors showed that if you remove car accidents and murders the US becomes number 1 in life expectancy. The US has a higher population of blacks where the heart disease rate is higher with blacks which lowers their life expectancy. The US has a higher obesity rate where higher obesity increases health complications such as an early death. I add a lot to the conversation. The reality is that taking something as complex as healthcare and reducing it down a simple ranking is foolish. Healthcare if much more complex than that.
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  40.  @ft4903  , again, many factors outside of healthcare influence overall life expectancy. You can't say it is a huge factor. I can easily argue that the US healthcare system is strong due to our high survival rates and the fact we have the barrier of higher obesity rates holding us down. We have very strong outcomes. We pay a lot because we provide a lot. We offer the most CT scans in the world. We do have higher survival rates. Do I want costs to go down? Yes. But to say we spend a lot for low outcomes is simply not true.
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  41.  @jojoboko6990  , what do you find deceptive? The point is that many factors outside of healthcare influence overall life expectancy. Way to completely misrepresent my point. But that happens when you have no actual argument.
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  42.  @willbrinkley4041  , people are denied healthcare in almost every developed nations.
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  43.  @biggmick1  , it is a special interest group. As for a study, read Prof. Scott Atlas 2011 book "In Excellent Health".
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  44.  @jojoboko6990  , you have to ask the professors. How about you email them? Their emails will be on their university page. My point is that many factors outside of healthcare influence overall life expectancy. That is why you can't point to overall life expectancy as an argument if the healthcare system is strong or not.
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  45.  @jojoboko6990  , a book references studies. The book is by an expert. Also, many books are referenced in peer reviewed studies all the time. I do it myself in my papers.
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  46.  @jojoboko6990  , yes, you should email them. If you are that interested in the topic ask the author. Get their viewpoint. They wrote it and they are the experts.
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  47.  @jojoboko6990  , a book references studies, so it is reliable. Why do you object to books?
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  48.  @jojoboko6990  , if anything books are far more reliable than studies.
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  49. On this issue they are. How much do those people really understand healthcare?
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  50. Why do leftists hardly ever provide empirical data?
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  51.  walt charamba  ,uh, that was not data.
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  52.  walt charamba  , what makes the CommonWealth Fund credible?
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  53.  walt charamba  , how am I a hillbilly? I live in a city.
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  54. And this doctor did his homework? He had nothing but talking points.
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  55.  @stranger16luis71  , do you have examples of your claims?
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  56. Do you have an actual argument against Shapiro or do you just mock him?
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  57.  @stranger16luis71  , I have seen that video and that narrator does nothing but pull logical fallacies and give talking points. Take the issue of people following all three rules and poverty, he literally showed the data the Shapiro cites which shows Shapiro is correct. On the issue of same sex marriage he never countered what Shapiro said. He ridiculed the idea of small government when in reality those on the right question the government being involved with marriage to begin with. The reality is that gay marriage was never illegal. He than mentioned about studies and same sex couples with children but gave zero citations. Besides that, children being raised by same sex couples is still very new and thus little data is there to make a strong conclusion. On the third argument he claims that "homogeneous" means "white". You can have two different cultures of the same race. So this narrator is literally a racist at that point. On Nordic nations they do have lower defense budgets, they do have a flat tax compared to the US where their top tax rates tax more citizens due to attacking a lower income bracket compared to the US, and they have higher consumption taxes. I don't see any debunking going on here through the first three arguments. So again, what do you actually have against Shapiro besides mocking him?
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  58. Watching this video this doctor had nothing but the typical talking points from the left. If this is the best that you have than you are in trouble.
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  59. Insurance can cover emergency cases, but a lot of healthcare can be paid for out of pocket which will drive prices down. There is a point to his argument.
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  60. I love how kyle ignores other experts with opposing views to medicare for all
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  61.  @Moh4a4d  , so professors who do research on healthcare are not experts?
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  62.  @Moh4a4d  , I consider the points experts makes. Why does Kyle ignore other experts?
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  63.  @Moh4a4d  , maybe because they don't want to take their time to be on those shows? Also, many of them wrote books or papers. There are other arguments as well http://keithhennessey.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Kate-Baicker.pdf
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