Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "JUSTICE DEMOCRATS: Taking Back The Broken u0026 Corrupt Democratic Party" video.

  1. We should look back at this video in four years.
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  2. This can kind of be compared to the Tea Party. Difference is that the Tea Party were older individuals who were more involved in politics where Bernie supporters aren't. In all I see this going nowhere.
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  3. I really don't see this going anywhere. I bunch of disgruntle children in their 20s is not a "revolution". The reason why this won't go anywhere is because the policies Kyle and Bernie supporters support are too radical. The whole no corruption thing might get some traction. But people, especially when they become older, will not support socialism. The Tea Party won on the basis of limited government and have been winning the next few election cycles. To win this you have to 1. Become moderate 2. Get people who agree with you to run Both of which I don't see happening.
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  4. They are too far left. The democrats have gone off the deep end. Bernie Sanders is making it worse since is the most extreme of them all. In all modern countries Bernie is a radical. "Bernie Sanders' agenda polls better than any politician in the country, Americans are OVERWHELMINGLY in favour of progressive policies" Then how come Bernie lost? How come universal healthcare did not pass in Vermont and Colorado? How come republicans have been winning the past 8 years? I just don't see it. You can point to polls all you want, I just have to point to election results.
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  5. Like most on the radical left they have no plan. All talk and no actions.
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  6. "These unicorns and rainbows are already being done in parts of Europe, Canada and Australia" Not really, at least not what Bernie and his supporters want.
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  7. Fredrik, "free college" in other countries have restrictions. You are limited to how many schools you can apply for, and in some countries they prevent you from attending by law. In the US we allow almost anyone which is great as it can give people opportunity if you went to a low quality public school or had a bad childhood. I know a girl who dropped out of high school her freshman year. She scored a 27 on her ACT, got into a community college and is now working on going to law school. Other countries don't offer that opportunity. Also, their university system is not that great. Bernie's policy is "tuition free" college to anyone which is not done that way in other countries. With healthcare they face problems and arguably have a system that is worse than ours, even with Obamacare. A lot of those countries don't have a min. wage, have much smaller populations than us, have stricter immigration (like Canada),have mandatory military service and so on. Bernie's policies are basically 1. Tax the rich 2. Free stuff to all that aren't rich Very vague and not really done at other countries thus it is unicorns and rainbows.
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  8. "most modern countries have pretty much everything Bernie Sanders is pushing for" Not true. Universal healthcare: In a way, but the quality is not great. But I guess Bernie said he wants to offer healthcare to all, he never said what type of quality. So I can give him this Affordable college: Their university system is different and has restrictions. In the US we accept almost anyone and Bernie wants to keep that so no, no country offers what Bernie wants. So this is a no. High taxes on the rich: In other countries they tax everyone high. Bernie does not want that with the exception of the payroll tax. But that will lead to lower wages. So no, other countries do not do what Bernie wants. Unions: Other countries do this, so I can give Bernie this one Minimum wage: Most countries Bernie points to have no min. wage. So this is a no. So out of your list we have Yes: 2 Eh: 1 No: 2 So kind of a push. But, there are other things those countries do that Bernie does not mention such as strict immigration policies and mandatory military. So again, the overall result is no.
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  9. This whole thing will just be OWS 2.0, this time on the internet because liberals are too lazy to go out in the cold.
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  10. General, 3/4 of roads are funded at the state and local level. Implement these programs at the state level and you won't hear a peep from the vast majority of conservatives.
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  11. Why do republicans keep winning than?
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  12. Very true. If this were to actually work Kyle would have to 1. promote more moderate policies 2. get more people to run for office With the first one, I agree with removing corruption, but their radicals policies are not going to win any votes. People will vote democrats. With the second one, a lot of Bernie supporters are first time voters who are young who typically are not involved with politics to begin with and thus won't even bother.
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  13. To add, the Tea Party ran off of the idea of limited government, but mainly being more moderate than the republicans that were there (Bush was a failure). That is how they won. People don't want radical policies.
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  14. The economy depends on the creation of wealth.
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  15. Big Hoss, when Bernie lost his supporters just pouted and stayed home. That is the issue. I don't see them running for office or rallying. And when they get older they will switch and become more conservative.
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  16. "Radical as compared to what?" Radical compared to the Constitution and what that allows and also compared to the countries Bernie loves to compare us to. Even at that he is very vague in what he wants to do. He is promising you so much but really have no idea how to even offer them. That is why when he is approached with such questions he always says "millionaires and billionaires" and "big corporations" and "the 1%". " You know Trump, the president? He is radical, and especially his cabinet" They are actually moderate in a lot of ways. They want limited federal government and more state rights which was the design of this country and is moderate. If you want "free college" do it at the state level.
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  17. Trump just took advantage of how radical the left has become. He stirred the pot with them and the left acted like buffoons. The left has become so extreme that they can't support their own policies they have been pushing for years, even Obamacare. They have gotten to the point that to them everything is racist or sexist. Even the LBQT (or whatever) group hated Trump for no reason when he supported them years before Clinton did. Trump allowed a black woman to live in one of his hotels for free after her family was murder, but he was called a racist and sexist. His campaign strategy was amazing. He was like a shark that smelt blood in the water with the Democrats and took advantage. The Democrats need to become more moderate like Clinton was in the 90s if they want to win. Until then they will continue to lose.
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  18. Miles, people sue those with money all the time. Major corporations get sued all the time. It is nothing more than people looking for a quick handout. "And Trump only won because many didn't vote this election" And that is one of my points. People did not become involved in politics to even vote to begin with. What makes you think that will change?
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  19. Link, that is what they did. When Bernie lost they stayed home. Care to give me a different explanation of what happened?
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  20. "dude... a social democracy is a better standard of living for the bottom 90% of this country." Debatable. "They will go along with this if they are informed on the specifics. " Like what? Having mandatory military service? Stricter immigration? No min. wage? Restrictions on who can attend college? "none of these policies are "radical"," What what Bernie wants they are. "they are all in line with FDR and the New Deal Democrats." FDR turned a recession into a depression. " the issue is the POLITICIANS have moved so far to the right they think these idea, which are supported in the mainstream," They are not supported. Universal healthcare was not passed in Vermont and Colorado for example. "Also no one is advocating for full on Socialism" Bernie is
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  21. Physical chemistry
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  22. "Refusing to vote for flaming pile of shit A or B is not the same as "Oh, my guy lost? I'll just stay home then...". If you want to say the end result is the same, then by all means." You also had congress members to vote for and local positions. "Equating Bernie supporters who did not vote/voted third party with being lazy and unable to lead a movement they wanted from the start is staggeringly presumptuous." They won't change anything. They are becoming a joke. You have Madonna talking about blowing up the white house and women getting mad and marching on the weekends for no reason at all. The left is becoming pathetic.
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  23. Actually moderates won. Bernie is extreme basically everywhere.
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  24. Link, that is how the left is acting now. When they don't get their way they get all emotional and act likes idiots. If you don't want that then I suggest you remove BLM, feminist, and the LGBT groups from the left until they learn how to act civil and mature. It is reason like that the left is losing. No, society is not racist, sexist or homophobic. If you want a starting point on how the left can improve either start there or realize your economic policies are currently radical.
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  25. "Which is why we don't have equal pay for black people to white people." There is an earnings gap. How about you look at the education level of white people compared to black people . "Equal pay from women to men" Again, an earnings gap. The whole equal pay myth has been debunked. Men are more likely to major in the physical sciences and engineering who generally earn more where women become elementary school teachers and also take time off of work when they become pregnant. "Why we.only got gay marriage in 2015 " Marriage is not a right. It begs the question on why/how government should be involved in marriage to begin with. " and in about 20 states you can still kick someone out of your business and discriminate against them because of their sexuality" And how often does that happen? Also, it was two gay people that used government force to shut down a cake shop they did not agree with. That is using government to oppress others. I don't see anyone using the government to force gays to use a different bathroom or sit in the back of the bus or shut down gay clubs. "The left isn't losing" Republicans control the majority of the country.
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  26. " Actually no. Equal pay FOR THE SAME WORK" Which happens already. It is a non-issue. There are already laws on the books that says you can't pay someone less simply because of their sex. Also, if a business could get away with paying women less for the same work, why don't they just hire more women and earn that much more in profits? "For race, it's a fact that employers are more likely to pick a white sounding name over a black sounding name on a resume." Never been shown. " And democrats today are not left." They are either 1. radicals 2. established Both being bad.
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  27. "Most are wanted by the majority of Americans" But yet, the country voted for republicans. And when placed on a ballot some of those issues lost, like in Colorado healthcare lost by almost 70%. "and most exist successfully in some form in other modern nations. " Eh, debatable. " If you believe these policies are radical" They are. " What Kyle is describing is NOT pure socialism" He pretty much is. " the type of government seen in Scandinavian countries" Nope, they don't have what Kyle is talking about. "which enjoy some of the highest quality of life in the world. " In some ways yes. Better than the US? That too is debatable. "These policies ARE moderate," The one put forth by Kyle aren't. That is why he has to push vague phrases such as "living wage" or how that is "not debatable" and " reasonable gun laws" and so on. But on the "living wage" and how the issue is not debatable. What I find to be ironic is that Kyle says we should allow conservatives to have their voice heard, but now he says the issue of the "living wage" is not debatable. In all, this whole "movement" is just OWS 2.0.
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  28. "Because people were told that a single state couldn't afford it " But yet people are supposedly in support of it. If it takes that little effort to change people's mind to where almost 70% of the population oppose it, than the people don't want it. Remember, it failed to be established in Vermont as well. "They were marketed to with bullshit rhetoric. " And democrats don't do that? You have Bernie calling healthcare a right. That is the level of his argument. No economic side to it at all. On that factcheck, thanks for making my point even stronger.
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  29. The Lord, they are debatable. Take healthcare for example https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/-the-business-of-health_110115929760.pdf You are giving me broad answers so I will give broad rebuttals as a response unless I am challenged. " Also, if you think LGBT people having rights is radical, get a reality check" I support everyone having the same rights as everyone else. Name me one right LGBT people lack. The reality is you can't. The left has become so desperate that you start making up rights to push your propaganda. The LGBT people have all the same rights as everyone else. But you have become extreme now. You have a gay couple using government force to shut down a business for simply refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding. You complain about how republicans refuse to give rights to LGBT people (but can't name one), but than use government to shut down businesses you don't agree with. This is why people are going against democrats.
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  30. FDR did turn a recession into a depression. That was the first time the federal government tried to "fix" the economy with massive spending and as a result we had the slowest recovery every. Every other recession took around 5 years to recover from with little to know federal government involvement. The only other recession that took this long to recover from was the recession of 2007, which we still have not recovered from. That too had massive federal government spending. " plus FDR is one of if not the only president ever elected 3 terms" Two things. One, other presidents respected Washington and served only two terms max. Next, the incumbent typically has the advantage in an election. From 1900 tell me how many presidents served only one term. So please read some history and get more information from more reliable sources than secular talk. I watch him plenty and he is a buffoon.
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  31. What makes you say that? In fact, this is what I am reading now http://tdqms.uchicago.edu/sites/tdqms.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/NLS/Notes/2.%20Corr%20spect%205-31-11.pdf
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  32. RandomGuy, let me know if anything in that link I sent you confuses you.
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  33. How would I know to google that particular professor and that subject? Not many people actually do research in multidimensional spectroscopy, especially 2D-IR. The first paper published on that topic was in 1998. One by Hochstrasser from Penn and than one from Fayer from Standford. So it is a relatively new topic. But I guess I just googled something.
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  34. Natural, this is not an "EU-like" policy. Who lost the election were radicals. The democratic party has gone too far left and people have become sick of them. They could not defend their own policies which is why they ran on the idea that racism and sexism is a major problem instead of how their policies actually worked.
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  35. Kuma, Hillary lost because she was a radical.
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  36. Zaq, he is advocating for full on socialism.
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  37. " Most developed European countries already do these things that are suggested here" Not true. For example, most don't have a min. wage. But what some do have is mandatory military service. Funny how I never hear that idea being suggested.
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  38. Bernie lost to Clinton, Clinton lost to Trump. So in the end Bernie and his ideas lost because they are too extreme.
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  39. Harrison, if those ideas poll so well than why did they lose?
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  40. Zaq, Bernie lost because he was a radical and attracted people who ever never involved in politics to begin with. Thus, as a whole, were ignorant. Also, Bernie's policies would put great strain on businesses to where they will shut down.
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  41. Jack, define "sensible".
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  42. Hammer, it is about how people are bad at saving money. People who support the higher min. wage say it should be a living wage. But, I don't see current min. wage people dying. They then will say that those workers will spend their money. So if you give them more they will spend more. But, why don't they save it? They are already living, so they should save it. So with that it becomes clear why they are trying to make a living off of the min. wage, they are bad with money.
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  43. This video should be saved and we should all look back at it in four years.
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  44. "And the reason Donald Trump won even though the Republicans got their ass handed" Which party controls congress and the majority of state and local seats? I really don't see how republicans "got their ass handed".
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  45. Their powers are to promise you things that will never happen, and also lying.
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  46. Natural Selection, most gun deaths are suicides and most gun deaths involve hand guns. Ever thought about that?
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  47. As a gun rights supporter it really doesn't violate the 2nd amendment because if you do commit a crime you can lose certain rights. The issue becomes when they overreach. For example they start doing medical evaluations for no reason where any red flag can prevent you from banning a gun. Or what my state does now, I can't let my friend borrow my gun without a background check. The NRA pushed for background checks to prevent people who actually did certain actions from owning a gun. Now it has become overreach by the left.
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  48. I like the idea of a sunshine rule. On background checks, you are really not infringing on rights to own a gun as long as you have not committed any crime or acts to prevent you from buying one. I agree that the Constitution is that line, at the same time it isn't be crossed. It is one of those things that should be left up to the states so if it does become a problem the people can easily change it. Living in NV we passed that background check law mainly because of Clark County. Rumor has it that Clark County sheriff department is the only ones going to enforce it. The other counties aren't.
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  49. Ok, I watch 15 minutes of this and all I heard was a bunch of false information and plans on attacking the rich. This is really going nowhere.
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  50. In other words preach the same shit you have been preaching for years and continue to lose.
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  51. Ozelot, it is clear that Karl Marx did not have "common sense" then.
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  52. Danelle, I watch a lot of Kyle's videos and I feel he is misinformed, especially when it comes to economics. To give an example take the min. wage. He tries to tie the min. wage to inflation when you can't, because not everything inflates. While some goods and services do increase in price, others either stay the same or become cheaper, which is normal for a progressing economy. For example, with labor, how much is a Blockbuster employee worth? $0. Their value dropped. But according to Kyle they should be paid over $10/hr and his only support is simply because of inflation. He feels that everything inflates. To give an example of a good the brick cell phone in the late 80s cost $4000 if you considered inflation. Basically, only the well off had one. Now how much do smart phones cost? Do they cost $4000? No. Several are given away and the poor own them. And smart phones have more computing power than what put a man on the moon. Thus the price of a cell phone dropped. As a whole you can't tie the min. wage to inflation because not everything inflates. Now take productivity. Kyle feels that if kept up with productivity it would be over $20/hr. The problem with that is that he is looking at overall productivity. There are still workers who just are not that productive (min. wage workers). That is similar to saying that the average height of humans has increased for years thus midgets should not exist, but they do. Not every job in the job market has increased in productivity. Productivity as a whole has increased due to technology and those who invested in it and became skilled in it have seen an increase in their income. It is called Skilled Biased Technological Change. Even with increased productivity those on the bottom have benefited. Increased in productivity means goods and services become cheaper and better which is why poor people can buy cell phones. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/prin1.t02.htm That link shows unit labor cost for different sectors. You see that in the food service industry (essentially fast food who pays the min. wage) that unit labor cost is positive. That means hourly compensation is outpacing productivity. Which this again shows why Kyle's idea of productivity being tied to the min. wage is flawed. On guns to move away from economics. What are "common sense" laws? That is vague and can mean anything. There is a great video by Steven Crowder (who I don't always agree with but do here) of him asking people want gun to ban and what round to ban. They wanted to ban the AR-15 and fed the 30-06 was fine as a hunting rifle. But when it came to rounds they were against the 30-06 round but felt the .223 round (which is used in the AR-15) was OK. This shows people lack knowledge of guns to begin with. So basically these laws are not "common sense". Kyle uses phrases such as "common sense" and "living wage" that in reality mean nothing but can fool people who really don't think or know much. He says something like "living wage" and gives the impression of "who can be against that, there is no argument against a living wage" or something along that lines. It makes the person even question the standard of a "living wage" look like the bad guy when in reality you have to define it which he never does. Same with "common sense" gun laws. What are they. I reality if anyone doesn't know much they are people who take Kyle seriously and feel this whole movement he is pushing for will really go anywhere.
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  53. Candide, what law did they break?
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  54. "We need more doctors and nurses and teachers and since no one can afford college we have the worst shortages in the world" No, it is more of a fact that being a doctor and a nurse is very stressful. It is stressful to earn a degree in that field to begin with and even worse on the job. You are dealing with patients who are sick and dying. You are a nurse with one patient who dies and you have to have a "I don't give a shit" attitude because if you start feeling bad than you have 4 other patients you are responsible for who will die. It is very stressful which is so few do it to begin with despite the pay being great. Money is not an issue, the high stress level of the job is. How many Bernie supporters are actually going to study to become a doctor or a nurse?
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  55. " You think minimum wage workers don't work hard?" Based on their productivity they don't. Also, only around 2% of min. wage workers work full time. Danelle, I used to deliver papers as well. The job was not hard. "3/4 of my customers did not send a Christmas bonus. " For what? Doing your job? "Tonight, while you lay warm in your bed" Actually I don't run the heat in my apartment to save money because I don't earn much myself. I earn $21,000 a year. " and remember how trivially you treat the majority of laborers in this country." Less than 4% of workers earn at or below the min. wage.
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  56. " Kyle is not misinformed" Please explain how he isn't. So far all you did was give you personal story but in no way showed how Kyle is informed.
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  57. killerbee, I am employed. These comments don't take much time to write as I am dealing with pretty much the dumbest group of people in society. Really, you are supporting an idea from a guy who uses phrases such as "common sense and "living wage". You know what is common sense in economics? Price settings such as price ceilings and price floors are inefficient and create waste in the economy . That is what you learn in basic high school economics.
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  58. But, killerbee, please give me an intelligent rebuttal to what I said. Prove to me I am wrong. All you have done is call me a troll.
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  59. "and don't give me that bullshit excuse about doctors and nurses having stressful jobs, not because you're wrong about that, but because those people CHOSE to pursue careers in their field and knows the responsibilities that their job come with" Yes, and they are compensated well for it. So the excuse that school is too expensive to produce more doctors and nurses is pretty much a load of crap. Another stressful job is being a pharmacist which we lack "All US citizens and permanent residents qualify for federally sponsored financial aid that covers the cost of attendance. While PharmD students graduating in 2014 had a average of about $140,000 in combined undergraduate and PharmD student loans, their median starting salary was $120,000." https://www.pharmacy.umn.edu/degrees-programs/doctor-pharmacy/admissions/costs-financial-aid-scholarships We lack those workers because people can't or refuse to handle the stress. Meanwhile you have Bernie and his supporters wanting to increase their work load. "If someone refuses to do their job they should be fired, including doctors and nurses. " These people already work long hours as is. So now you support slavery? Other countries face problems with their healthcare system as well https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/-the-business-of-health_110115929760.pdf And they have inferior universities compared to the US. Even at that they run a completely different system and really can't be compared.
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  60. "Wrong cupcake 50% of the country makes less than $30,000/year." And what it the household income they live in? What is the cost of living in the area they live in? Most of the people I work with earn less than that because they are graduate students. I am one of them. Does that mean we are in bad shape? No. I am fine and so are they. You are presenting data in a deceptive way. " As Jimmy Dore says, "If you're angry at someone lower on the economic scale as you, chances are you're being manipulated by someone higher on it." " I am not angry, just calling out stupidity.
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  61. killerbee, Kyle is an idiot and so are his supporters. What really shows that is how they lost, badly, but still feel like they have a "revolution" going on. Come back to this video in 4 years, you will see.
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  62. Danelle, i watched the video, it is all a bunch of crap. "Educate yourself" How? Should I read Communist Manifesto of Mein Kempf?
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  63. Parker, recessions happen all the time, how we recover is key. We did not fully recover from the 1929 recession until around 1939 and 1940. That first growth in 1935 did not last long and and quickly fell apart because it was artificial due to it being propped up with federal dollars. So recovery took around a decade. Every recession except for two took around 5 years or less to recover from. All of them had minimal federal government involvement in "fixing" it. The two that took the longest to recover from were the recession of 1929 and 2007. They are also the only times the federal government tried to "fix" the economy with massive spending. "nd one other thing, to have a civilized debate with someone, do not call them a stupid shit" Never did that, unless you are not talking to me. But how about you read up on history and economics as a whole. "see just how well conservatism worked for the country the first four years of the depression" Hoover practice a lot of what FDR did during his time as presidency. FDR expanded Hoover's policies. In 1921 Hoover was asked Harding to come up with a plan to fix the economy following the crash of 1921. Hoover came up with a plan a year later, but by then the economy was recovering. Instead Hoover used his plan in the crash of 1929. So again, read up on history. We have been practicing liberal policies since the 1930. If it weren't for WWII the mess we are currently end would have been happening decades before. What happened instead is the war allowed for the economy to grow because every other country was rebuilding. We weren't. In the 60s and early 70s we double down on our socialist and big federal government policies. What is funny is that ultra liberals always point to me a chart on how productivity has went up but wages have been stagnate since the early 70s. What happened around that time is the expansion of the payroll tax and creation of the EPA and OSHA. Now Reagan with a democratic congress and Clinton with a republican congress has hindered the disaster somewhat, but in the end what we are seeing now is the result of big federal government and socialism, basically liberal policies, not conservative policies. How about we try conservative policies now.
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  64. "So, you do realize that even in countries with the highest taxes they still do extraordinarily well right?" Debatable.
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  65. JoJo: 1. The constitution places limits on all governments, so no, states can't reject people from voting. Also, at the state level you have more control of government alleviating corruption. 2. Point to me the law 3. Cut federal spending and allow the states to run domestic policies. So we won't have less tax money. And there won't be a burden on the poor 4. A private company censoring someone is not a violation of free speech. 5. Dumb comparison. You are a specific group causing something at a disproportional rate. 6. Ok 7&8. You don't have a right to someone's services. Look at rights in our country. You have a right to free speech, but if no one is going to offer you it than you don't get it. You have a right to bear arms, but the government does not give you a gun. With roads, that is always a piss poor comparison. One, 3/4 of roads are funded and maintain by the states and local government. And if the resources are not there the quality of the roads are bad. That is why you have dirt and gravel roads and roads with no stop signs. There are several rural areas where volunteers clear the roads of snow and that does not always get done. That happened a few years ago in my home town and people were snowed in. Also, with healthcare and education, we lack professors, TAs, tutors, dorms, equipment, classrooms etc. You are increasing the demand for their services and supply thus the price will go up or the quality will go down (like dirt and gravel roads or roads not being cleared of snow). 9. &10. ???? 11. The recession happened before the New Deal. The New Deal hindered recovery creating the depression. 12. So increase energy prices? 13 and 14. ??? 15. I have seen that, they contradict each other. For example, people have a right to healthcare but also holidays off? So if someone is sick on the 4th of July there will be no doctors. 16. Nope. Look up Steven Crowder's video on "Common Sense" gun laws 17. With a lot of restrictions. For example, they only let the best and brightest attend college. We allow everyone and a lot drop out. 18. It isn't "cruel and unusual". What is more cruel, a quick death or locking someone in confinement for decades? People basically become dead in the latter situation.
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  66. What ended he depression was the war. Every other country went to war and we didn't thus creating a demand for our services world wide. The New Deal hindered recovery.
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  67. Parker, you need to learn what wealth is. A homeowner has 30 times more wealth than a renter. I, living in the US, actually have less wealth than an Ethiopia kid who is starving. That is because I have negative wealth due to loans and that Ethiopian kid has essentially zero wealth. So, the issue is more complicated than that.
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  68. "The USA didn't trade with foreign nations that were already at war, because such action would be sought as an act of war by the opposing country who didn't receive trade." That is not true. We have worked with other countries and traded with them during war including Germany. "ecause of the massive size if WW2 and the demand for wartime production the USA was able to meet full employment and maximum production of industrial goods" Which ended the depression. The war also distracted the federal government from messing around with domestic policies and had them concentrating on international policies. "After the war it is believed the USA had generated over $600 Billion of debt- about $8.2 trillion today. After the war if we didn't stabilize our economy and remove at least some of our debt, our markets woulve become to volatile and the economy could go into a recession. This is why I believe the Great Depression was not solved by the war," It was because after the war every other country was rebuilding where we weren't, thus we traded with many countries that looked for our production. Now those countries are rebuilt and our socialist programs are catching up to us.
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  69. This is actually good. Leaving it up to the states allows them to micromanage this program to where you get more bang for your buck. Medicaid is running out of money, something has to change. Here you give more power to the people which is what liberals say they want but ironically vote against.
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  70. " And if the states don't use the money as intended and leave the people in the state uninsured?" That is up to the citizens of that state to decide and change if they want. Just like states don't have to offer K-12 education. They still do though because the citizens want it. You are asking legit questions but the fact is that this shows a one size fits all policy does not work. What if the voucher runs out of money when it was established at the federal level? What if we had a voucher program at the federal level and republicans there got rid of it? Than every state is screwed. With the states handling it they can manage it they way they seem fit based on what those citizens want. If a state you don't live in decides not to use those vouchers than why should you care? You don't live there. If that is what the citizens want then fine. CA just voted to raise their min. wage. I don't live there so I am OK with that. I don't agree with the min. wage but if that is what that state wants than fine. That is not to change the topic, it is to give an example. "Btw Medicaid will last until 2028." Which is not far away, thus we better act quick.
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  71. globe what is the "decent thing to do"? That is subjective. I can see the government offering healthcare to people as being decent. At the same time making people more dependent on the government, holding back productivity, and forcing people to give up their money and services is not decent. That is why we allow the states to decide as to some people what is decent is not to others. The founding fathers has a very similar situation when they developed this country so they created the concept of state rights. I talked to people from Canada who feel that their system is garbage. So it goes both ways.
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  72. globe, I will add that your argument is purely appealing to emotions. While emotions are good at times, you have to be careful because as emotions go up logic and reasoning go down. I see the emotional side of the argument, but there is so much more to it than that.
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  73. Listening more to this this should be called Occupy Wall Street 2.0. This is going to be a complete joke. I am going to remember this video four years of now and email it to Kyle (if he still has a show) and ask him how this whole movement went.
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  74. aaronlwu257, that description is very vague. This is why this won't go anywhere. You talk about "living wage" and people start asking what is that really? What defines "work hard"? These ideas won't gain any traction.
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  75. Gage, why transportation? We have public transportation. Also, what is someone walks? Is their wage now lower? What type of food? What type of shelter? A one bedroom or a studio with two roommates? What if you don't have children? Is you wage now lower? Education is readily available these days How much savings? You see the difficult in this now. You can't just make up numbers and standards.
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  76. " If you're asking about the general equation, then you just don't know how math works. If it's more economical to use public transport in a given area, then we plug in the average value for the cost of travel using public services into the equation." Actually I have a math minor. I can buy it being different in different areas (which really supports my case of it being subjective). But if you have two workers working at the same place and one walks and one drives, does the one that walk get a lower wage? "What does that even mean?" Do they eat Ramen noodles all day? Or fruit? Or pizza rolls? Do they get to eat store brand food only? Or what about steak dinners? That is what that means. There are several different types of food. "The type of shelter is irrelevant, and determined by the environment. All that matters is the median value of the cost of shelter in the region." Studio apartments with roommates or without roommates? If someone decides to have roommates do they get a low wage? "No. Why would it be? It's like you're trying to be dumb." Why would it be? Because someone with children would need a higher wage. But if you have no children than the employer can argue in paying a lower wage. Also, how many children? One, two, five? "What fucking planet do you live on? Where can you go to school without incurring a hindering amount of debt, and receive a decent education?" Community colleges and JuCos are cheap. You have loads of information online. I watch MIT videos online almost daily to keep fresh on topics on math and physics. You also have public libraries. "I already stated that it's an arbitrary value." Just like the number of children one has or what type of living quarters they reside in. Thus, as a whole, the whole "living wage" is arbitrary. "Statistics exists" Which can be manipulated by many. "We have science. You know this, right? " I am pursuing a PhD in physical chemistry. "Because economics " Says that when you set price floors and price ceilings you create inefficiencies and waste in the market.
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  77. I understand basic calculus just fine. Show me where I don't otherwise.
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  78. Nope, it is about wealth creation.
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  79. Vaas, when did that happen?
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  80. " if that were true, the minimum wage would be $21.72 " Nope, the min. wage is actually $0. There is nothing that says the min. wage should be that high. "But as is, the increased productivity instead goes to the top" Actually it went all around. That is how the poor can own smart phones and better cars for example. " Even just keeping up with inflation, it should be $10.52" Nope, because not everything inflates. Take the Blockbuster employee for example. They are worth $0 now. Or take the brick cell phone. With how much it cost in the 80s it cost $4000 if you used inflation. But as I pointed out people who are poor own smart phones. Smart phones are cheaper than brick phones were in the 80s and have more computing power than what put a man on the moon. Everything does not inflate so you can't tie the min. wage to inflation. " Amazingly, in the same time where productivity has almost doubled, we're actually slipping backwards on wealth, " Not true.
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  81. Also, I will add on the more money to spend idea. How about they save it? The fact that they will just spend it that quickly if you give them more shows they have poor money management skills which explains why they live off of the min. wage to begin with.
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  82. Read up on Supply and Demand charts. Chances are that new min. wage is below the equilibrium point the market set.
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