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Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Red State Republicans Are Coming To Raise Your Taxes" video.
***** I buy less. Income tax rate is 0% in my state. I consume less because I am not materialistic and manage my money.
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The social contract argument is asinine. Someone brought it up to me and after a few exchanges I asked them to show me this "social contract". I have yet to hear back from them.
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Anime Girl CA has the largest economy in the US because they are the largest state, population wise in the US. Guess which state is second in both population and economy? Texas. Guess which state is third in GDP? NY. Now guess where they rank in population? Third. Guess which state is fourth in GDP? FL. Guess where they rank in population? Are you starting to see a pattern?
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Ok, think about the gas tax. Who is more likely pay the increase in the gas tax? The rich who drive, or the poor who ride the bus?
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Except, you know, they didn't.
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Nature Boy This doesn't raise taxes on the middle class, unless you feel that the rich don't buy gas nor order things online.
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Nature Boy I did watch the video. Apparently the rich don't buy gas nor do they pay for things online. We have a similar structure in my state, we love it. Zero income tax.
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Nature boy, let me ask you this. On the gas tax who is more likely to own a car and drive? The rich or the poor? Now who is more likely to take the bus or walk to work, the rich or poor?
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We have this in my state, works just fine.
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Or they say this, income taxes go down (in my state it is 0%), which actually saves money for the middle and lower class. I earn $23,000 a year and I am saving money because of these types of taxes. Also, you end up taxing out of state visitors more.
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And that is what those states voted for. I personally don't care what happens because I don't vote in those states.
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Uh, I come from a conservative state and we support this. This lowers the income tax where in our state is it at 0%.
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WobblyBits_X Ok, you want the min. wage to keep up with productivity than you need to lower it. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/prin1.t02.htm Look at the food service sector of the market. That includes fast food restaurants. Notice how unit labor cost is positive? That means hourly compensation is outpacing productivity. So if you want to base the min. wage off of productivity than you need to lower it.
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WobblyBits_X You said productivity, min. wage workers are not that productive thus they are paid a low wage.
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WobblyBits_X Nope, you can't tie the min. wage to that. You may have an argument with productivity in that is how you get paid overall in the market. But for cost of living, that is on you. Either find a way to earn more or cut expenses.
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WobblyBits_X Yes they are reasonable as the vast majority of people in society do it.
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WobblyBits_X Then tell me how do all of those on min. wage continue to live.
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NUTCASE71733 Hey, I have a great idea. Let us complain about how corrupt the federal government is and than allow it to run our healthcare and college education. I mean, surely by then they will no longer be corrupt.
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WobblyBits_X Than you need to find a way to be more productive. In the end you are not going to get any sympathy from society.
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WobblyBits_X "A majority actually want the min. wage raised" Eh, maybe. To how much is always in question. "for healthcare" Not really, it did not pass in Vermont and almost 70% of citizens in Colorado voted against it. "and higher education to be tax funded" Not true at all. "Also, a massive part of the progressive platform is fixing the corruption in government." Actually it is making it worse.
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WobblyBits_X Why do we have corruption in the federal government? Because it has power to sell to the highest bidder. Money in politics is nothing more than a symptom of a disease. That disease is the federal government having too much power. If we limit the powers of the federal government than it can't sell anything. You are complaining about corruption but want that same federal government to run your healthcare and college education. By allowing them to run that you have just given them more bargaining chips to become more corrupt.
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WobblyBits_X I want money out of politics myself. I just understand the real solution in doing it.
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WobblyBits_X I am not saying that attempting to get money out of politics is contributing to corruption. I am saying that their approach is just compounding our problems.
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WobblyBits_X "Also, a massive part of the progressive platform is fixing the corruption in government." That is what you said. You mentioned nothing about money in politics. I am highlighting to you how they are compounding our problems. Someone like Bernie may not take money from big donors, but he wants the federal government to have the ability to run our education and healthcare. What is going to prevent future politicians at the federal level to use those as bargaining chips to get money? Think about it, you have the federal government the power to regulate the banks, so what do they do? They regulated the banks by bailing them out.
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WobblyBits_X You remove money from politics by limiting the power it has. "They bailed out the banks partly because they take money from them" I agree, and why? Because the federal government has the power to regulate them. So the banks put an end to that, or, as I see it, "regulate" the banks in the banks' favor. "You know what politicians could use as bargaining chips to get money? Popular policies." Yep, because that supposedly worked out so well for ol' Bernie. "Govt. run education and healthcare is already working fine in other countries." Highly debatable. https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/-the-business-of-health_110115929760.pdf
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WobblyBits_X And Bernie still loss. All a corporation has ever done to me was offer me a job and/or a product. That's it. The government is the one who forces me to do things.
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WobblyBits_X Really? I won't work for a corporation if it did no pay me. I don't work for one now because they could not pay me enough.
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Elephant Warrior Ok, now we are getting into Mad Max territory. That is a little extreme.
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Except people don't want the incompetent federal government to run our healthcare. Also, this is done in other states and work well. We do it in my state and we have 0 income taxes. Makes doing taxes easy and allows low income people like me to have more money.
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This is a tax cut. My state does this with zero income tax. The idea that this is a tax increase on the poor is asinine. Think about the gas tax and who usually rides the bus as opposed to driving?
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Nicholas Ruunu I walk to work so I hardly use gas.
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Anime Girl Not really. CA also has the highest Gini Coefficient in the US, NY is second. You can look at situations like that.
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Anime Girl Eh, in some ways yes. .
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Mike Lopez You give a voice to Kyle and Bernie. I, myself, agree that Rush and Glenn Beck don't know much either, but at least they are not pushing for higher taxation and government regulations through fear mongering.
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Mike Lopez Kyle and Bernie never mention any scientists at all. Bernie just says "every scientist" or something like that, but does not have any that endorses him. At least with his asinine economic plan he has some "economists" the endorses them in some way. As a scientist myself I will say Bernie and Kyle need to stop misrepresenting scientists and science, they clearly have no clue.
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Mike Lopez Uh, when did I quote a "corporate oil whore"?
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Mike Lopez And which "experts" do left wingers quote?
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Mathias B. Uh, you don't quote scientists.
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What is funny is that the rich are more likely to use gas as opposed to the poor who ride the bus or walk.
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Martyrofsand I agree that consumption taxes are the fairest taxes we have have.
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"LGBTQ people getting equal rights" Name me one right that LGBTQ people lack and everyone else has. You can't. That is why democrats lost, they are crying about problems that don't exist.
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matereymate What? We have an immigration problem that needs to be addressed. That is also why democrats lost. Trump brings up the idea that we need to remove illegal immigrants and apparently that means he is a racist. That is how crazy he left has become.
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matereymate Immigration is not at net zero.
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loki2240 Yeah, I never agreed with everything Trump said, but democrats only response was to call him a racist. They refused to acknowledge that we have an immigration problem. Trump played democrats at their own game. They have become so radical that you can trigger them easily making them look like fools. We have an immigration problem. Trump was addressing that to where the only thing democrats could say was calling him a racist. That is why democrats lost.
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loki2240 So you do what democrats do. You can't defend your stance so you name call and run away. That is why they lost.
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charlidog2 Yes you did lose.
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NUTCASE71733 Ok, what? Jim Crow laws are an example of an oppressive government. I have been against them and have used them to highlight the dangers of government. On gay marriage, you can marry whomever you want, whether or not the government recognizes it is a different issue. On interracial marriage, it cannot be banned via the 14th amendment because guess what? The constitution is there to limit government so it can't oppress us. This is what why I feel ultra liberals are some of the dumbest people around. They want the government to do more when in reality it is government that is always the oppressive ones. Who created Jim Crow laws? Government. Who is refusing to recognize gay marriage? Government. But hey, I guess we should just give that same government power to run our healthcare and college education.
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charlidog2 You lost the war on ideas. People are sick of the high taxes and regulations kill jobs and economic growth.
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charlidog2 How about we don't spend? Regulations can kill jobs.
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We have this in my state, I love it. Pay little gas tax because I walk everywhere. Pay little sales tax because I don't need much. I pay little on internet purchases because, again, I don't need much. What I usually do buy on the internet ends up being written off as a college education expense, so it increases my refund. This is not a tax increase on the poor and middle class.
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Jacob Grindel Nope. In my state we have no income taxes. I get to keep more of my money I earn to spend as I see fit. I don't spend that much so those higher taxes elsewhere don't effect me. That is why so many people like these type of taxes.
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Jacob Grindel In some ways it will, but equally. But with consumption taxes if you consume less you pay less in taxes. You have more control on your taxes while you can earn more income.
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This does lead to less taxes. My state does this and income taxes are zero. A person like me, who earns only $23,000 a year, actually has more money.
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Think about this, they are raising the gas tax. Now which group of people typically rides the bus and which group typically drives?
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***** Yeah, but more of the working poor walk and take public transportation.
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Quinton Jones But, as a whole, the poor are more likely to walk and/or take public transportation.
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This does lower taxes. It keeps income taxes low and taxes everyone, including out of state visitors, equally.
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Well, it is more complicated than that. My state gave a huge tax break to a business and we are doing well, same with Texas. Connecticut has high taxes and they are a mess. Those taxes that are being raised don't necessarily hurt middle class people, they are consumption taxes. You can lower income taxes and taxes on businesses this way. With these taxes, at least the gas and sales tax, anyone from outside the state who buys gas and items end up paying a tax. That is the only way you can tax visitors since you can't tax their income. This is pretty smart really.
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Not really.
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Darkrai Titanollante Uh, not really. Consider how many of the poor ride the bus or walk to work.
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Dallas I am not rich either and I walk a lot. I own a car but I walk a lot. Usually when I drive I can write it of on my taxes.
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