Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Dems Are Bleeding Millennial Support In The Age Of Trump" video.
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Interdimensional Steve,
1. I don't agree with everything that Crowder does, but I feel you are misrepresenting him. To start, I see a contradiction in you saying he goes after "moronic children on college campuses". I hear all the time how the more educated one is the more liberal they are (a debatable issue but we will go with it). So if they are going to college are they liberal, educated and moronic? So you are admitting that being liberal is being moronic? Or maybe the idea of Bernie's "free college" would not make people smarter? What is it?
As for that "one time" a kid who many thought was well informed challenged him on his Change My Mind segment I disagree. To start, I felt Crowder's argument was poor, but that kid's argument was cliche. Saying "Sweden" and "Norway" is not an argument. And using the word "autistic" had him losing the debate. The kid seemed to repeat the same talking points he heard from Kyle on Secular Talk. Those countries are not socialist countries and socialism does not mean "government does thing". It was poor on both parts and the kid become perturbed and started to ridicule Crowder claiming that Crowder was losing the debate, he wasn't. Both sides were doing poorly.
2. Shapiro debated members of Congress in Congress and debate Cenk.
3. I don't follow Jordan Peterson so I cannot make a fair argument on him
4. You seem to know very little about Crowder and Shapiro. For one, going on college campuses does attract millenials which is what this video by Kyle is about. Next, as I said, Shapiro has debated members of Congress and both Crowder and Shapiro do more than just go after SJWs. You should watch their content. I have a feeling you haven't.
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Harry Lakity, SJWs are a major problem of the left. Bernie Sanders acts like a SJW a lot of times. You have identity politics that are a part of that crowd. I agree that people are not acting educated. However, the political left claims to be the more educated of the two groups and don't act like it.
Bernie was not the common man's choice. This was a guy who did not have a job until he was 40. He stole electricity from his neighbor. When approached by middle class Americans on the issues he became very perturbed. Look at how he acted towards that hair salon owner from Texas. Now compare that to how Bill Clinton approached Herman Cain on a very similar topic in 1994. Sanders has zero connection with the common man, that is why the RNC did not see him as a threat.
For each point
Weed: The political right does not care about this issue at all. That is why it is become legal and they are not making major noise.
Science: No party is "anti-science". As a scientist myself if I were to say any side is "anti-science" it is the left because they politicize it. However, politics politicize everything.
Porn: Like weed, they don't care. However, I believe I addressed the porn issue in how the left have double standards. The porn industry is really abusive towards women in that women have very little, if any protection as workers in the industry. The left preaches about "workers' rights" but are silent on that issue.
Education: As with science no party is anti-education. In fact, you bringing up "anti-education" and "anti-science" is a SJW stance. It is the same as crying "racist". When someone brings up points you disagree with you call them these names. That is not productive. Republicans are pro education, they just have a different, and legit approach at it.
Environment: Same with education and science.
Healthcare: Same with environment, education, science, etc. There are very strong arguments to the free market approach in making healthcare affordable.
And so on. As for the tiki torches, etc., that was on event. What have the white supremacists done since? Nothing. Ben Shapiro broke down where they came from. When SJWs calls the other side racists the only people who will sympathize with them are these racists. There were unheard from for years until recently. And after that one event they are no where to be seen. You say "common sense" but end up calling the right "anti-science" and "anti-affordable healthcare" as if they have no argument. They have very strong arguments. This is why I am saying the political left has problems. It is people like you that silence the other side and dismiss them which is you acting like a SJW. That is a problem.
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Harry, SJW make up a large portion of the political left now. If you disagree with them they call you anti-science, anti-poor, racist, bigoted, etc. You had Bernie calling Trump a bigot with zero evidence. He gained over 40% of the votes in the primaries. You have SJW like Bernie and you shutting down the other side with name calling and labels.
"-More citizens gave their vote to Hillary than Trump.
-Hillary is less popular than Bernie.
-Bernie is the most popular politician in the USA."
More people voted for Hilary due to LA and NYC being heavily populated. That is why the electoral college exist (one of many reasons). It was so that we don't run on mob rule. If Hilary was less popular than Bernie then why did he lose? Also, nothing indicates that Bernie is popular. Any poll you point to I have read and they are approval ratings, not popularity polls. Also, Bernie was never subjected to any attack ads. If you notice those approval polls politician in high power, such as Clinton, Ryan, Trump, etc. have low ratings. Why? Because they are subjected to attack ads. But they still win. Bernie was never subjected to attack ads because the RNC wanted him to him because there is a lot of dirt on him. But fact is that Bernie, and politicians that run on his ideas, and his policies are all losing.
Weed: So, he does not write laws. He defends the government based on the laws written. Weed is still illegal federally. He will defend that stance as AG. Does not mean he supports making it illegal. Same with Ted Cruz and the dildo situation. Cruz never once said if he supported a ban on dildos. He only did his job as AG.
Science: Very few, if any republican denies evolution and climate change. Look up the court case Dover v Penn and consider that was a court appointed judge. As for funding watch the video entitled
"Who's More Pro-Science, Republicans or Democrats?-Neil deGrasse Tyson".
He has a great break down on it. Answer me this, if republicans are the party for the rich why would they be opposed to funding science considering technology is how people get richer?
Porn: That was a law, not an amendment. Also, it received support from both sides.
Environment: When did Pruitt ever deny climate change? Point to me where? I will wait. Fact is he never denied it, period. He said, correctly, that we do not know to what degree man is contributing. Also, we do not know if it is a major threat.
This is why your side is losing. You claim others deny climate change when they never do.
The Paris Agreement was a very bad deal that everyone should oppose. Just because you sign something that looks good on the surface does not mean it was good. Do you support the Patriot Act? if not you are not a patriot according to the title (for the record I don't support it, I am just showing you how presenting something in one way does not make it good overall).
Healthcare: When put up to a vote in Colorado, a left leaning state that supported Bernie in the primaries, 80% said no to universal healthcare. People voted for republicans who ran on repealing Obamacare. Also, pointing to polls is not an argument. You said "affordable healthcare". Just because the people supposedly support something does not mean it is affordable.
"Do you really feel silenced and dismissed? "
Yes, because when you label people as "anti-science" or "anti-affordable healthcare" and so on you are dismissing their argument from the beginning. I am a scientist myself. I am working on my PhD in physical chemistry. I have four peer reviewed papers published. I support Pruitt as the head of the EPA. Does that make me anti-science because I support him? If you say yes you have to remember that I work as a scientist for a living. I work as a scientist to pay my rent, to eat food, pay my bills, etc. How can I be against something I do for a living?
You label people who disagree with you as such. I will not label you as anti-science even though I disagree with your viewpoints on climate change and I can break your viewpoint down to where I can make you look like you are anti-science. I will not call you anti-affordable healthcare even though I can break down your arguments to where it would make you seem like you are. I won't label you. Why? Because I can have a debate on these topics. I can dig deep in them and discuss the issues with label. I can do so giving you the benefit of the doubt that you do want to better people's lives that you are just misinformed or simply have a different opinion for what ever reasons. As long as they are legit I am fine with that. But you labeling people like you do makes you a SJW. I just proved to you that republicans are not anti-science and are not anti-affordable healthcare. I have torn about your entire stance on the issue because you immediately went to labels and said they had bad arguments.
That is why democrats are not doing well, they have bad arguments.
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"While it is true that people tend to get a little bit more conservative
as they age, they don't typically become as conservative as the previous
generation. "
They become more conservative economically. You can make an argument for social issues, but economically people become conservative with age and are just as conservative as the previous administration.
"t is also on the wrong side of the culture war,"
How so? Trump was the first president to enter the office supporting gay marriage. No democratic president supported gay marriage until Obama in 2012.
"Marijuana, same-sex marriage, the rise of the religious nones, favoring
gender and race equality, etc, have all seen increases in support.
Conversely, conservative values are on the decline."
Again, economics. Most republicans don't care about those issues. Marijuana is a none issue. Same sex marriage was settled in the SC. How are the genders and races unequal according to the law?
On that last point that is why Democrats are losing. You bring up identity politics way too much. You cry out racism when none exist.
"If the GOP doesn't evolve in the next twenty years, they won't win another general election."
I heard that before. In was in 2008 when everyone said the GOP was dead.
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MrAzul132, what claims did I make without sources?
Shapiro broke down his point on healthcare and furniture. He is saying, correctly, that healthcare is a commodity. I will like you a video on what he means by that.
"We had a healthcare system with little regulation and it sucked so hard we had to implement something ASAP. "
Not true. We have had many regulations for decades. I will also provide you a link to that.
"Shapiro's idea is idiotic and barbaric."
How so? Saying it is is not an argument.
"There's a reason why all of the best healthcare systems in the world are single payer systems,"
Not true, I will link you a book to read on that.
"We ration care by wallet size in this country, not need"
Not true. Read the papers entitled
"The Ethics and Reality of Rationing in Medicine" in the journal Chest
and
"True versus reported waiting times for valvular aortic stenosis surgery" in the journal Can J Cardiol
"If a country can't, first and foremost, provide their citizens with safety from natural causes like illness, then it will fall"
Well it seems like every country is failing then because no country can guarantee that.
"And yes Bernie had a well thought out plan."
No he doesn't. In the debate against Cruz he was cornered by a guy from Denmark that finally got Bernie to admit that he has to raise taxes on everyone.
" Every other modern country has a successful single payer system. And all of the numbers bare out that it would be much cheaper."
What is your standard for "successful"? And being cheaper is not better. A 5 bedroom home is more expensive than my apartment. Is my apartment better?
"Healthcare isn't a care or TV."
On the point that it is a commodity that someone has to provide it is.
"And how do you have "healthcare competition" when there are companies and people that capitalize on a treatment and then inflate the prices exorbitantly."
Prices go up due to no competition.
"And yes, I do think having debates about climate change is exactly like having debates about a flat earth or a geocentric universe. It's fucking ridiculous when the massive amount of scientific evidence and scientists say it's real and a problem. "
As a scientist myself I can tell you that is not true. Reality is that there is not hard conclusion on the issue. Climate change has been happening for over 4 billion years. A driving force in evolution is climate change. So unless you are a young earth theorist, or do not support evolution you have to realize we do not know if climate change is a major problem. That is why no one on the political left can get scientists to speak up on the issue when many on the right have, like Steven Crowder.
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"Funny your argument regarding the debate Crowder was owned in lol"
How was he owned? The kid saying "Sweden" or "Norway" is not an argument. The kid just repeated talking points that he heard from Kyle. I am not saying Crowder was better, he wasn't. But the kid was not great.
"To nitpick his WORD CHOICES is fucking childish as hell. "
It is not because words have definitions. Autistic has a definition. And he had to explain why Crowder was shill. He couldn't. Also, calling Nordic countries socialist countries is false, they are more free market than the US.
"Crowder knew full well wat he meant by the words he used, and yet he chose to pretend like he didn't and make the kid explain himself."
He didn't, neither did I. The kid was just saying words without thought.
" And they he got in the kids face to try and trip him up, and used the audience against him."
I can agree that Crowder did that and I have said many times that Crowder was not any better. What I saw were the equivalent of two NFL teams that were 2-10 playing each other. No matter who won they both sucked. But for Crowder he showed he was at least going to engage in a discussion with people where Kyle does not.
"And furthermore, have you seen any of Crowder's recent big speeches/talking events? He alost alwats caps them off with a VERY disturbing anti-leftwing speech where he draws the audience in making them out to be "Victims of the left" and then gets all worked up over it and comes off like a humungous jackass with ZERO understanding of what the general left actually is. Hint: We're not SJWs and we're not "out to get you.""
The political left has two major problems.
1. The SJWs
2. They lost connection with the common man
I agree not everyone are SJWs, but enough of them are and not enough on the left are trying to stop it. As for losing connection with the common man, that is why Clinton lost. She was too busy reading her own feel good stories. You have the media making these claims about what the people want. You have ultra leftists saying the same thing too. You feel you think you know what the people want, you don't. Here is a clue for you. People do not want the federal government tampering with their lives. They don't want universal healthcare and education. They don't want the federal government invading their lives and wallet. They want freedom and liberty. You say you are not out to get me. I disagree 100%. Most people want to mind their own business. You want to invade it.
But here is the major problem with the left. You want to create policy to invade people's lives. And maybe not. Maybe you do want to help people. However, there are many ways to help people and those on the right have their ideas. The problem with the left is that if someone disagrees with you than you feel they lack morals and need to be punished. That is a problem. And that is why the left is losing. You refuse to engage in a conversation with anyone.
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Harry, you are calling republicans and the political right anti-science. What that tells me is that you cannot create an argument and thus smear your opponent with zero justification (and in some cases, like Pruitt, lie). Your perceived values of the right are incorrect, that is my issues. You call them anti-science, anti-weed, etc. with no justification besides
1. Pointing a few that might be
2. Lying, or being factually incorrect
A Bernie Sanders supporters shot at politicians, does that make them all violent? No. You say the AG is against weed, does that make all republicans against weed, or even the majority? No. As I said they do not see it as a major issue.
"If, everytime 'the right' gets legit criticism, you take that personally
& think people are calling you names & trying to silence you,"
Here is the problem, you have yet to give a legit criticism. You started out labeling them as "anti-science" and "anti-education" and so on. Immediately I cannot take your arguments seriously as you have an extreme bias against the right. You view them as anti-education because they have different ideas. You may disagree with their ideas but you cannot say they are anti-education unless you have very strong evidence towards that. You don't. As I said, I feel many on the left support education, affordable healthcare, science, etc. I just disagree for several reasons. You are pushing to silence the other side by saying their stance on the issues are "anti-science", "anti-education", "anti-affordable healthcare" and so on. If I did that so you how would you feel? Here, I feel the political left is "anti-education". See how simple that was?
"You can't call people SJW's just because they don't agree with Republican Policy. "
I don't. I call them that when they place labels on others without justification.
"No you didn't. Only 16% conservative Republicans accept the 99% scientific consensus of man made climate change."
Uh, the old "consensus" argument that gets abused by the left constantly. To start, climate change has been happening for over 4 billions years. Is man playing a role? Yes based on purely the 2nd law of thermodynamics. However we cannot say to what degree. To those who feel man is playing the only role in climate change I call young earth theorist as they are ignoring the climate change that occurred before man was on earth.
Now reading your poll, the question was
"Almost all climate scientists agree that human behavior is mostly responsible for climate change".
To start, the methods of this poll not listed and thus this poll is highly unreliable. However, let us go with it. The questioning is poor. "Climate scientist" is very vague. That can technically involve me as my research can contribute to the influence of climate change on the environment. Next, saying "mostly" is vague as well because there is no quantitative value placed on that anywhere. As I said, climate change has been happening for over 4 billion years.
Also, nowhere in that poll does it say "deny climate change". If you were to ask me those questions I would align with the political right if I were given only those options. However, in all reality I understand the issue is more complex than that. Now does that make me anti-science?
Now with your quote on Pruitt, please explain where he denied climate change. Again, i will wait.
Here is the equivalent of what you are doing. If I were to say there wasn't any sun out today because it was cloudy you would say that I made the claim the sun doesn't exist. That is not true as I am saying it was not sunny today because of clouds.
The fact is that anyone you disagree with you on climate change you call a denier and label them as "anti-science". You cannot argue your point on the issue so you do that. So I ask again, when did Pruitt ever deny climate change?
"54 per cent favourability seems like a popular candidate to me."
If he is popular than why did he lose? Also, I told you about how he has never been attacked. Why? Because he is not considered a threat and the RNC wanted him to win the primaries. If you look Paul Ryan as a 34% approval rating. Why? As I mentioned before he is well known and has been attacked like Pelosi was as speaker. And again, approval does not equal popular. Bernie is not in power like Ryan and Trump are. Thus he is irrelevant.
"Congratulations, the far right are emboldened, nazi memes are cool, hate
crimes are up, education is falling, scientists are snubbed, lifelong
citizens are deported & you're being silenced by me, a nobody on
youtube who wields zero authority."
And this is why you are a SJW. You are labeling republicans as Nazis. Who is saying Nazi memes are cool? No one. Who is snubbing scientists? No one. Education is doing fine. Crime has been dropping for decades.
You claim you are standing by what you believe in. Truth is that you cannot support what you believe in. I asked for evidence to show where Pruitt denied climate change. You have not given it to me. All you have shown was that you love to twist words to suit your agenda and flat out lie in many cases. I can do that as well. Bernie Sanders hates America and wants us to live in a communist country like USSR did under Stalin. There, see how easy that was? Do I need support? No as you have not provided any. Oh, wait, I do have support. Bernie spent his honeymoon in USSR in 1988. There, that is all I need. I am simply going off of your standards now.
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Harry, I am not trying to silence you as I am simply playing you at your own game. You label the right as "anti-science" with no justification, so I am as well. All I am doing is showing you that by doing the same actions you are that we are not going to have a productive conversation. If you just label people like a SJW does than we will not have a productive conversation.
" You refuse to accept stats, polls or differing opinions on the Republican Party"
Except I referenced the polls and my concerns about them. As for stats, what stats? What have you give me? You have only given me opinion polls where I pointed out the flaws.
"As to why you're on a leftie channel, one could only hope it's so that
you can hear views outside of the right-wing echo chamber. "
I listen to both sides as I don't live in an echo chamber.
"Bernie, with 54% *favourability*, is the most popular politician in the USA."
Did that poll ask about every politician? No. So it is irrelevant. Unless every politician is on that list, and we can keep it to federal ones, that poll is irrelevant. There are 535 voting members of congress. I did not see all of them on there. Also, you are refusing to address the issue of how he has never been attacked like Paul Ryan, Clinton and Trump has. You did not see attack ads on Bernie from the RNC. If you did his approval would be different.
Opinion polls are not facts, they are opinion polls. Polls have vague questions on complex issues and thus have many flaws and are unreliable. I just gave you another reason for the Bernie one. They were missing a lot of congress members. How can you say he is the most popular when you are not even comparing him to every federal politician?
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