Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Bernie Flabbergasted By Very Dumb Interviewer" video.

  1. He has nothing but talking points. This is predictable because when pushed he can't go beyond his talking points and end up sounding like a very ignorant.
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  2.  @stewhv94  , the number is not 0 in other nations. For example, in Australia up to 7000 die a year waiting for "elective" care. Also, that 30,000 has many counter arguments.
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  3. You will never get a clear answer. People on the left will say your taxes will go up, or only the rich will pay, or that somehow you will end up paying less because apparently you have no clue how to manage your own money.
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  4. Shut up and get in line. That is what he will say.
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  5.  @ultramaga813  , Bernie fans feel that cosmetic surgery is "elective" surgery when in reality neurosurgery is also considered "elective". In Canada some forms of heart surgery is elective as well.
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  6.  @ultramaga813  , I agree, but that is how those single payer systems work. A girl who was 14 had a brain tumor and waited months for an MRI in the UK and died due to lack of care.
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  7.  @henrygustav7948  , and same for single payer. Both systems have problem.s
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  8.  @henrygustav7948  , I rather be bankrupt than dead.
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  9.  @henrygustav7948  , in other nations people due to lower quality.
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  10.  @henrygustav7948  , still waiting for that peer reviewed paper on MMT.
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  11.  @henrygustav7948  , a textbook is not "peer reviewed". I asked for a peer reviewed paper in a respected journal. You have not provided any. Do you even know what peer reviewed journals are?
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  12.  @henrygustav7948  , link it again. Still waiting for that peer reviewed paper.
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  13. It doesn't throw people off of healthcare, it makes it so that they don't have to buy it by force so they refuse. Bernie is literally lying there. Bernie's plan "covers" everyone on paper, but in reality it won't offer high quality of care to all.
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  14.  @nonofyabidnez5737  , no country covers everyone unless they are very small and very rich. And it is arguable that the US has higher quality.
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  15.  @santobarca5  , many factors. One are survival rates. Read the book "In Excellent Health" by Stanford Prof. Scott Atlas.
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  16.  @happyland4524  , great. That means nothing to me.
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  17.  @nonofyabidnez5737  , studied by who? I just pointed you to a book that suggests that the US has high quality.
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  18.  @happyland4524  ,so dumb that I can read a book by a Stanford professor.
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  19.  @santobarca5  , because he does not want to do what those nordic nations have done. He wants centralized the healthcare system with Medicare which has many problems to begin with. I recommend you read this http://keithhennessey.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Kate-Baicker.pdf
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  20.  @happyland4524  , Stanford university.
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  21.  @thepurityofchaos  , M4A will cost way more than that.
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  22.  @franklance9167  ,so does single payer systems. What's your point?
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  23.  @franklance9167  , there are limited resources in healthcare, so something has to give. That is why in other nations people die while on waiting lists.
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  24.  @thepurityofchaos  , they don't. If they do they are underestimating the cost.
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  25.  @franklance9167  , how did I move the goalposts?
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  26.  @franklance9167  , it is the same argument. You are assuming the healthcare is there and all government has to do is pay for it. It isn't that easy. Government paying for it does not magically increase the supplies.
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  27.  @franklance9167  , how is it not the same argument?
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  28.  @franklance9167  , it is an argument because, in the end, resources are limited. Something has to give. If the government is going to pay for everyone's healthcare than the government has to find a way to ration it out which is difficult in a nation of 320+ million people. So what ends up happening is that certain people get screwed. You say supplies will be "well allocated", how? Who determines that, and why? Many prescription drugs are hard to make because of the evolution of diseases and some situations are so rare that not many drugs are made to begin with. Some people don't react well with drugs and it becomes very subjective. At this point I take it that you have not spend much time studying and working in the healthcare industry. If we change the system at best there will be no net loss. With a lower payout on Medicare there is a lower incentive to create more drugs lowering the supply. So tell me, how do we allocate healthcare, and why?
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  29.  @franklance9167  , where is the incentive to create more supply when profits drop and healthcare providers earn less
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  30.  @thepurityofchaos  , it is impossible to estimate the cost due to the many factors involved. So yes, they are grossly underestimating the cost. For example, when the insurance companies get shut down and those companies are no longer paying property taxes, who is going to make up for the loss of revenue in many local areas? That is just one of many factors that are not considered in all of these cost analysis. This is why federal government programs ending up costing more than predicted, you can't factor in every situation. Funny part is that we just studied in one of my MBA courses. It is referred to as "Rational Model" where there are assumptions that take place such as all info is know. But that is not the case. In reality we work in a "Bound Rational" situation.
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  31.  @franklance9167  , you have no clue how complex healthcare really is.
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  32.  @alexandriaocasio-cortezisa8162  , why would any politician lie? To gain votes and power.
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  33.  @thepurityofchaos  , That number, I assume, you are pulling from the Mercatus study. That study said the $32 trillion was on the low end and chances are the cost will be much higher. They assumed that healthcare providers will be willing to take a 40% pay cut as Medicare pays at a 40% lower rate. So you have to assume that quality will stay the same despite less payment and higher demand. That is a large assumption I cannot buy. Also, healthcare is 1/6 of our $20 trillion economy in a nation of 320+ million people. You can't make accurate calculations on the cost. Based on history and the complexity of this issue the reality is that Medicare for all will cost much more. We have two examples of the federal government taking control of complex issues and it causing problems. One is the Community Mental Health Act of 1963 where when that was passed the federal government did not account for many factors and mental health care in this nation got worse. Another is the student loan program where the federal government is not controlling student loans and costs are still going up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUbUCls0WJo&t=4770s Fast forward to the 13 minute mark where they discuss the financial situation of student loan situation and how the federal government took over the student loan program. The student loan program contributed to the increasing cost of college tuition. All of history shows that federally loan programs typically cost more than projected. Why would healthcare be different?
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  34.  @thepurityofchaos  , demand will be up as people are no longer paying and thus will use healthcare for frivolous reasons.
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  35.  @thepurityofchaos  , Medicare arguably has higher administrative costs.
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  36.  @thepurityofchaos  , people will be using healthcare more for frivolous things.
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  37.  @thepurityofchaos , Medicare has, arguably, more administration cost. Medicare, unlike private insurance, can pass the cost onto other agencies in the government.
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  38.  @thepurityofchaos  , many things are frivolous. You can just need bed rest but still see a doctor. One of my colleagues, when I twisted my ankle, insisted that I see a doctor. She came from a country with universal healthcare. I told her no that all I needed it was to ice it and let time take its course. She asked why people like me don't see the doctor more often. I told her that our culture learned how to manage our health without constantly seeing a doctor. I had injuries before so I knee what to do. When there is no out of pocket payment people will see doctors for frivolous situations that they can honestly take care of their own.
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  39.  @MrBennieagray  , Bernie is a hypocrite. It is OK for him to get rich doing something he enjoyed, in that case writing a book. But when someone like Bezos starts a business it is wrong. Bernie also said that anyone can write a book to become rich. Does that mean anyone can start a business? Also, why doesn't he donate his money to charity? it is easy for him to be liberal with other people's money.
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  40.  @TheTaquitoProject  , a business is not a person.
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  41.  @MrBennieagray  , only around 3% while paying 26% in taxes. Why not donate 26%?
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