Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Big Oil Taking Over The EPA" video.

The EPA is unconstitutional. I want to leave this issue to the states.
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Kyle is at the Alex Jones level of conspiracy. It is sad how crazy some people have become after Trump was elected.
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Cheryl, why do you trust the federal government so much? Remember, they are millionaires as well and are looking out for their best interest.
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The EPA has been around since the early 70s but yet there is still a climate crisis, according to the ultra left. Seems like the EPA is a failure at this point.
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Clint, you never addressed what I said. We have had the EPA for over 4 decades but the ultra left keeps saying things are getting worse. So how do you explain that?
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Alonso, you are right, the EPA is not going to fix every problem. To me it is unconstitutional and should be left up to the states. All the EPA does at that point is create job killing regulations and while we have had it things are not necessarily getting better.
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Clint, you just did waste your time. Again, address what I say or I will just pass you off as another ignorant ultra leftist that has no clue what they are talking about.
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Cheryl, the coal industry dying is simple progress. No different than Blockbuster dying because of streaming and Redbox. Or the battery plant in my hometown dying because many devices now have batteries on board that are rechargeable. Or how the tractor replaced farm workers. I support progress and realize that new jobs will come and old ones will go. Free markets supporters know that. These regulations just speed up the process hurting many people in the process. With the free market it will happen gradually to where future generations will transition to new jobs and older people can keep the ones they have.
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Cheryl, the Constitution lists the responsibilities of the federal government.
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Alonso, if the states had control of environmental laws than Trump will have not power.
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"if you look at photos of air quality in the '70s compared to photos taken in the same spots recently, you'll see the EPA and adequate regulations have had a considerable effect" Depends on where you look. There are several areas in the country that has always had clean air. In others there still is poor air quality. I can take a photo in the LA area and if done right have it so it looks worse than any time before the 70s. Some things that have contributed to better air quality are cars with better mileage, and appliances that are more energy efficient. That is from the free market as people want to save money. "there is a climate crisis like a slow-motion train wreck taking place, but that's not entirely the EPA's fault" You sure? You are being selective in how you show support for the EPA. "not when you consider that the gop and their industry donors and lobbyists have fought tooth and nail to prevent the kinds of regulations needed to affect the necessary changes." Regulations have been increasing for years. I don't see anything to suggest regulations have been decreasing. The code of regulations have grown from around 71,000 pages to around 178,000 pages. So where is this deregulation you are talking about? "later in your thread you say that environmental protections should be left up to each state....that's pretty much impossible since we have only one atmosphere that all the states must share, and that rivers/etc don't care about state borders" Not impossible as the federal government deals with commerce. If a state is allowing pollution to occur in their state that is their business. But if that pollution leaks into a neighboring state that exceeds that state's standards, than the federal government can step in and tell that state to stop polluting that state. For example, if Nevada were to have pollution go into Utah that exceeds Utah's standard, Nevada will have to do something or pay a fine. But that's it. No federal EPA required. "finally, since Congress is Constitutionally charged with providing for the welfare of the citizenry, i don't buy your "the EPA is unConstitutional" argument." It is to "promote" general welfare. Promote means to encourage. The structure of the country is so: The federal government is there to serve the states. It is made up of the states. That is why prior to 1913 there was not a federal individual income tax but a tax on the states. That is why we have the electoral college. The states are there to serve the people and the people make up the state. That is why states taxed individuals. So yes, the EPA is unconstitutional as it sets as it influences individuals' lives.
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BasePuma4007, people want a clean environment. If left up to the states they will outlaw the dumping of toxic waste in the water. Also, many things cause climate change. It has been happening for over 4 billion years.
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"So if the EPA was terminated it would be even worse" Not true. If it were localized than "blue states" can have strict environmental regulations and you can have your clean environment.
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Ultra leftist Bernie supporters love big government and programs like the EPA until someone like Trump gets into power. At that point they all cry foul. I want to abolish the EPA myself so this will never happen.
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Psychedelta Blues, nothing at the federal level is ever determined by a simple majority of the people. If the people want it they can do it at the state level. I find it funny when someone questions the powers of the government leftists take it as "you want to destroy the environment" or " you want to kill people". Maybe people like me want to keep government under control.
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" Many businesses don't want a government to leave them alone they want a government they can use" I agree. That is why we need a limited government, not give it more power.
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Dan Ryan, your story is anecdotal. Also, many factors besides the EPA has led to cleaner air. Cars pushing for better gas mileage and appliances pushing for more efficiency is one. That is because people want products that save them money.
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Ragitsu, I want environmental protection as well. I just want to leave it to the states. You know, so when a Trump like president gets elected your state EPA won't have to change.
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" Better gas mileage for cars and energy efficiency for appliances were mandated by the government, those industries fight it tooth and nail." Not true at all. People want to save money thus they want more fuel efficient cars. I remember when the light bulb that lasted 5 years came out and the commercial for it. That was the selling point. The free market fought for thought, not the government. People want lower energy bills.
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The problem with ultra leftists here is that they feel that when the government creates a program that it can magically solve everything. That there is no need for standards and checks and balances. Just like how they thing federal universal healthcare will give everyone healthcare (it won't unless you lower the standard) they feel that the EPA, as it exist now, will save the environment. They don't care about how congress should be setting laws or how it give the executive branch too much power. The hear the name "Environmental Protection Agency" and they thing it is some magical department that can save the environment if ran the way they feel it should be ran. The ultra left is literally the spouse in an abusive relationship that thinks someday their spouse will stop beating them.
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"Oh really, but when it comes to policies we want you dont let states do it. In the last healthcare bill the Republicans tried banning states from doing their own single payer systems. Hypocritical much?" From my understanding they did not want federal funds to fund it. That is not banning it. Even if they were I would have disagreed. You see, I can disagree with what both parties do.
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" if Americans wanted more fuel efficient cars the Prius would be the best seller," Not necessarily. There are other components as well. A Prius cost around $23,000 from what I see from a quick Google search. My car cost $6000. To some people that is all they can afford. I get 30 MPG. To me buying a $6000 car with 30 MPG is efficient. There is more to it than just gas mileage. Some people want power. I live in the mountains. I have to get up to speed on the freeway quickly and climb up a mountain. I need a car that can do it. People want several features in a car. There is not an ideal car. There is always as cost. In economics that is called "opportunity cost". My car is cheaper ($6000 to $23,000), and gets more horsepower (160 hp to 120 hp). Sure, I have 30 MPG and the Prius has over 50 MPG, but I traded that off for the other qualities. " Fuel efficiency standards are set by the government, " And? People still want more fuel efficient cars. They are not necessary. Just like before OSHA workers pushed for safer work environments and work related deaths in mines drop significantly before OSHA. You know, the people can push for things without the government. " LEDs are the most efficient light bulbs yet the worst selling, " LED lights are constantly changing. Taking to the facility manager at my university he refuses to use LED lights because in a short amount of time they can change. LED lights require different voltage and can shift in color depending on the voltage and temperature. You essentially have to replace all of the light fixtures on campus to do that. "people still buy incandescents for gods sake!" There are advantages. I use one for my lava lamp. But as a whole people stopped. I worked in a very conservative part of the country and they switched on their own in 2010. "Companies did not stop dumping their wastes into our rivers until the EPA forced them to" Not true. In my city we push for a clean river. We have local laws that prevent that. "The water treatment facility near where I live resisted uv treatment of treated waste water until they were forced to just a couple years ago by the EPA. " Maybe you should have pushed for it yourself. You live there. My water is fine. In live in two different parts of the country, we were fine. " One need only look at China for an example of what we would look like without it." If you want to go to the extreme we can look at N. Korea for an example of an overpowering government. But I like to stick with the US. If your local water has problems than fix it yourself.
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