Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Marianne Williamson Schools Tomi Lahren On 'Handouts'" video.
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@jshowa o it depends on the scam. You do know the government can be just as deceptive? How much power do you want to give the government and how much do you trust it? I personally rather gather information myself.
On gay marriage both sides had legit concerns, but also had poor arguments. The left made the argument that republicans are stripping away "gay rights" when no gay person was denied any right. Marriage is not a right. If democrats had a better argument besides an emotional one they may attract more support. Also, there are legal concerns when it comes to marriage that had to be considered. Not saying I oppose or support gay marriage. Simply saying you are over simplifying the issue.
You found one case of voter fraud, which was caught and justice happened, and made a grand conclusion? The Heritage Foundation has examples of voter fraud and showing it exist on both sides.
Again, little is known about transgender. The reason why they are banned from the military is because they have a very high suicide rate. Why? We do not know. Many on the left claim it is because they are not accepted. However, it could be because of a mental disorder. We do not know as there is little data and info on the situation. Both could play the role. With suicide it is an mental issue and very complex. I deal with a mental disorder myself of major depression disorder where I take medication and therapy. While doing it I understood it more and the challenge with it is that it isn't like a broken arm that you see or diabetes that you can measure blood sugar levels. Thus, with transgender, there is little known. They are banned from the military as it is a highly stressful situation where people's lives are on the line. You do not want someone with a high chance of suicide out there as it can make things worse.
On the pandemic out of the 8 states with the highest deaths per million, seven have democrats for governors. Now there is a lot to that as some data is suggesting herd immunity is taking place. I will discuss that later. For Trump, though, what I find to be ironic is how so many on the left called him a dictator and fascist. Yet when he had a chance to become one with this virus he left it up to the states like he always has. He has always pushed for state rights. NY, IL and CA are really the only states struggling and begging for money. They also have some of the most oppressive governments. The mayor of Chicago got her hair cut. The IL Governor issued a stay at home order while his wife traveled to their second home in FL. When asked about it he refused to answer. Also, Trump eventually banned travel from Europe. But at the time it was not known it can come from Europe.
As for the virus, I have a been watching this like a hawk. Why? Because I am a scientist and thus a nerd. So much is not known about the virus. Why? Because it takes months, and even years to get all the information and still a lot won't be known. What is pathetic is that when two doctors from Bakersfield post a youtube video giving their data and opinions they had their video taken down. One comment was that their work was not peer reviewed. When I heard that I said "no shit" as it takes months, or even a year to get work peer reviewed. Nothing on this virus is peer reviewed. So many on the left are ignoring valuable data and opinions and are using this virus to gain in power and fear monger. What is sad is that so many, like you, are falling for it.
Here is the reality with the virus. The lock down was to slow the spread to get relief to the hospitals. Also, little was known about this virus. Now hospitals have space. However, many democrats are still staying lock down where the WI Supreme Court forced WI to open up. They are using this as a power grab. Data is suggesting the virus is no that deadly. Of those 80,000 deaths that is overstated as every hospital is listed someone dying with the virus as a virus death. However, almost all who die are either old or have other health complications to begin with making them high risk for death overall. Thus, the lock down would not have saved very many, if any lives. It simply provided relief for healthcare.
We need to reopen the economy for two reasons. One, to get it rolling, and two, learn more about the virus. We will never learn until more people become infected. Doing so will see if it evolves, if we can build up an immunity, if a strain can be used as a vaccine, etc. With herd immunity, NY, NJ and LA were three states hit very hard at the beginning but now have seen some of the sharpest decline. CA was one of the first states to shut down and is not seeing decline. That suggests those three states accidentally created a herd immunity where CA has not.
So overall, little is known about this virus, but to me republicans have handled it much better. Democrats are using it as a power grab telling people it is scary and stay home. Meanwhile the state of GA has been open for almost 3 weeks now with less cases despite more tests.
You can call me a troll all you want but you seem to have little understanding here.
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@jshowa o every state issued a lock down but states like NY, NJ and MA are seeing a decline. That suggests a herd immunity. But again, we will not know until we start reopening slowly and monitoring it. CA closed down early and have not seen a decline. Now states are opening back up and are not seeing a spike. Why is that? Maybe because more people were infected than we thought or maybe the virus is not that deadly or severe.
He issued a travel ban, and was called a racist in doing it, in February when there were only a few cases and no deaths. At this point you are simply showing that no matter how Trump would have handled this you would criticize him on it. How do you do a travel ban when there were only a few cases and no deaths? You can't.
It is up to the states to handle this. That is a part of state rights.
Fauci estimated the deaths would be in the millions. His models are all over the place. He also said that opening up too early would cause a spike. However, states are doing it with no spike.
We gamble with people's lives everyday. You take a risk when you leave your home. There are millions of ways to die. This virus is just one more. Is death something new to you? If so you are going to have a hard life to live. Fact is people die for many reasons. Gun shot, car accident, heart disease, cancer, etc. But now a virus comes and this is the one time we shut down? Think about how foolish that sounds. Why now? We gamble with people's lives all the time. But now this virus is different? Really, have you never heard of anyone dying before?
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@gilbertgaines672 the 80,000 deaths is actually an overstatement. Basically you have someone dying from heart disease and also had the virus and it is listed as a virus death even though it is not the main contributor. So the deaths are overstated.
"For the simple fact the entire population in America has not been tested yet."
Except more people are being tested and we are not seeing a surge in cases. In GA, a their peak, were around 700 to 900 new cases a day with around 3500 tests a day. Now they are averaging around 600 new cases a day with around 5000 tests day and that with being opened for over 2 weeks now. That suggests three things
1. Our measures of distancing and precautions are working
2. The symptoms are mild
3. More people got the virus and are immune
Overall, it is most likely a combination of the three.
You say I have no objective fact, well, there is right there.
As for it being May, it is suggested that summer will alleviate the spread. The fact is this. In order to learn more about the virus we have to simply open up the economy, slowly, and have people become infected. In doing so we can learn more about it. We can learn how severe it is, if we can build up an immunity, if it will evolve, etc. You know how small pox vaccine was discovered? Dairy farmers were being infected with cow pox and they were not being infected by small pox. Literally people were being infected.
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@gilbertgaines672 I know limited is known. But again, a lot of virus deaths are comorbitities. That means there were other factors at play. An 80 year old person is at high risk of death all around. Chances are very high they were going to die anyways.
What does being pro-life have to do with anything? Fact is that in life we take risks and place other people's lives in danger all the time. We live with it. Take driving for example. You place other people's lives in danger all the time when doing so, but we still do it. Why? Because we understand it very well.
"telling the older generation that their life is meaningless. "
Never once said that. In the book "Being Mortal", which is required reading for nursing students at my university, the author there brought up a case of an elderly person, on medication and care, was told not to drink alcohol. What did she do? She drank anyways. Why? Because why not? Enjoy life. Here you want to lock people down and not let people live life. I am saying open up slowly, learn more about the virus, and get back to normal. Being lock down is not living life.
In 2017 there are around 7700 deaths per day. So 2000 is actually low.
"At the beginning of this conversation, you stated that America has 40,000 deaths per year"
From traffic accidents. In 2017 the US had over 2.8 million deaths. So 100,000 is actually low. And again, a lot of the virus deaths are comorbitities which is actually common with a lot of deaths, as in many factors played a role. In fact, of the top causes of deaths, number one in 2017 was from heart disease and number 4 is chronic lower respiratory diseases. That means some of the top forms of death involve the respiratory and heart to begin with. You have to factor that in. As I said, someone dying from heart disease and also had the virus was most likely going to die to begin with. But you ignore that.
"You seriously have no concept of the magnitude of this situation."
And neither do you. That is why we need to start opening up the economy and see what happens. If you want to stay in your home and live in fear that is your choice. When my state opened back up recently the first thing I did was go to my favorite bar. It was fun.
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@gilbertgaines672 around 7700 people die a day in the US. And yes, the number of cases is dropping. The death rate is overstated as hospitals are pressured to report every death as a virus death if they have the virus. When the final tally comes there will be a huge error bar. Just like how in flu deaths there is an error bar of around 20 to 30 percent.
As for every life being important, sure. But in life there are a million ways to die and millions of inconveniences. You can die in a car accident, from the flu, cancer, gun shot, choking, etc. In life you can feel miserable from the flu, a sprain ankle, a broken arm, a sun burn, etc. This virus is just one more. Thankfully more people are starting to feel like I do and are going out and enjoying life realizing all of that. You can stay inside if you want. Come August when this who situation blows over you will be looking very foolish.
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