Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Fact check: The true cost of 'Medicare for all'" video.

  1. It is fact checking. Bernie took the study and said "the study says X....." where the author of the study says "no, my study says Y....". If you want to argue the numbers and methods you can and that would be a different discussion. But the fact checking here is what the study actually says. Bernie is wrong in what the study says.
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  2. Shellbombs, healthcare is not a right in other nations. Also, we have to look at our legal system. If you make healthcare a right in the US than you are going to force healthcare providers to work. That is why you cannot declare it a right.
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  3. Bernie made a claim about a study that the author disagreed with. That was the fact checking. The authors really said one thing where Bernie said something completely different.
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  4. New World, people here have not read the study. Facts don't sit well with Bernie fans.
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  5. OnceAndFutureKing, the "right to life" means government cannot take life away without due process. Just like your right to bear arms does not guaranteed you a gun, it just means you have a right to possess a gun and that right cannot be taken away without due process. Your "right to life" does not guarantee it.
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  6. enhaxed X, you made a claim with zero justification. I take that as a victory for me.
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  7. Matt Schilling, the study said that $32.6 trillion over 10 years was a conservative estimate. Also, that number is just for public care. What we pay now is for both public and private care. The $32.6 trillion made the assumption that healthcare providers will be willing to take a 40% pay cut without lowering quality and that increasing demand will not increase prices. The fact check was comparing the conclusion of the study to what Bernie is concluding. Bernie is wrong in what the study says. Now you may disagree with the study's conclusion where that is a completely different discussion in itself. But you have to be honest in what the study says. Saying that increasing demand will not increase price is an economic fallacy. Very little suggests that Medicare for all would be cheaper.
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  8. Matt Schilling, the issue is that gathering data is challenging. This study is just looking at cost and using Bernie's assumptions. They are a 40% reduction in healthcare payments where healthcare providers will be earning 40% less, and assuming prices won't go up despite demand going up. If you assume that you get the number that the study produced. Now consider that increasing demand will surely increase price, or that a 40% reduction in payments will lower quality, you end up with a situation that Medicare for all is not any better than what we have now. Expand on that how you will almost have to double taxes on everyone and completely dismantle healthcare as we know it, you have a situation where Bernie's plan is arguably unrealistic. Also consider how every state that tried to pass universal healthcare failed due to cost.
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  9. Bernie is all about discussing the issues. Here you have a study that is doing just that. When it came out Bernie completely misrepresents it. He needs to be held accountable. I support discussing the issues but Bernie needs to be honest about it. This is why people don't take him serious, he has to lie to push his ideas.
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  10. Matthew, police and roads are locally ran and funded and are a drop in the bucket compared to healthcare costs. Also, they are nowhere new as complex as healthcare.
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  11. The idea of preventative healthcare can be argued against. When Medicaid was expanded to 6000 patients in Oregon and those patients were compared to 6000 patients who did not receive Medicaid there wasn't any different in health outcomes. Reality is a major part of preventative care is lifestyle choices such as diet and exercise.
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  12. Uh, saying other nations do it is not a strong argument as you are ignoring many factors outside of healthcare that can contribute to the outcomes.
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  13. So many triggered leftists here. Tapper is correct, Bernie is wrong (or lied). The Koch brothers study did not say that Medicare for all would save the American people money. Sorry that facts hurt your feelings.
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