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Comments by "" (@solascriptura1536) on "Muslim learning about the Sun setting in mud according to Allah | Paperboy | Speakers Corner debate" video.
Unfortunately it is not Dhul Qarnayn who said "I found the sun setting in a muddy spring", it is Allah telling Muhammad that Dhul Qarnayn found the sun setting. It was not from Duh Qarnayn's perspective, it is from Allah's perspective.
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Muslims will have to employ mental gymnastics to get out of this one... 18:84 Lo! We made him strong in the land and gave him unto every thing a road. 85 And he followed a road 86 Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness. This is ALLAH relating the story to Muhammad and the entire Muslim community. It is not Dhu'l-Qarneyn who is talking about the setting place of the sun, it is ALLAH. This verse is from Allah's perspective! No amount of gymnastics can erase the fact that ALLAH thought the sun set in a muddy spring. Allah is not quoting Dhu'l-Qarneyn, Allah is relating the story!!!
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@alonzoharris9049 More-harm-mad was not a king. He asked for writing material because he knew he could write, and so did the companions. None of them said "no Messenger of Allah (SAW3), WE will write for you"...
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You have proven that whomever "inspired" Muhammad was ignorant
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@dalmar004 18:86 Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness. Sorry, I'm not Allah. Whose words are these in al-Kahf 86? Allah or Dhu'l-Qarneyn??? Use your brain please.
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@ma1la2z54 Al-Qurtubi doesn't explain WHY ALLAH THOUGHT the sun sets in a muddy spring. He only gives HIS own INTERPRETATION of the verse. It doesn't change the fact that it is ALLAH who SEES the sun setting in a muddy spring. Al-Qurtubi did his best to cover Allah's blunder and he failed. He only succeeded in calling Allah a liar! What are Al-Qurtubi's exact words on the verse?
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@ma1la2z54 Your rambling does not change the fact that it was not Dhu'l-Qarneyn who SAW the sun setting, it was ALLAH who DESCRIBED the place of the setting sun. Here is your OLDEST tafsir: Narrated Abu Dharr: I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where these sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah). Sunan Abi Dawud 4002 Who knows best? Muhammad or Al-Qurtubi???
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@alonzoharris9049 Read the question and answer the question, stop being irrelevant "MR RELEVANT". The question is "WHERE IS SPERM MADE IN THE BODY?" It has nothing to do with your objectivity of the fluid. WHERE IS THE SPERM MADE IN THE HUMAN BODY pagan?...
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No. Allah doesn't speak from Dhu'l-Qarneyn's perspective. It is Allah who is NARRATING the story, and unfortunately, he rendered Dhu'l-Qarneyn dumb since he doesn't speak a word at all when it comes to describing the areas he comes to. Allah the narrator IS the one speaking from ALLAH'S PERSPECTIVE.
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@dalmar004 Narrated Abu Dharr: Once I was with the Prophet (ﷺ) in the mosque at the time of sunset. The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "O Abu Dharr! Do you know where the sun sets?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know best." He said, "It goes and prostrates underneath (Allah's) Throne; and that is Allah's Statement:-- 'And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term (decreed). And that is the decree of All-Mighty, the All-Knowing....' (36.38) It's Allah describing that the sun sets in a muddy spring. Thank you for your input.
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@alonzoharris9049 Jos 1:4 From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea *toward the going down of the sun*, shall be your coast. TOWARD THE GOING DOWN OF THE SUN means the great sea is IN THE WEST silly pagan!!! Is this what More-harm-mad was trying to copy? Shame! What a blunder. He couldn't tell his prophet Allah just to say WEST???
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@alonzoharris9049 לקראת Sorry little pagan, try another tactic to defend the blunder of your pagan god.
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@alonzoharris9049 Toward is "halak" and it specifies DIRECTION, not the DESTINATION. Don't try your "original language" mental gymnastics with me, it won't help you nor will it vindicate the blunder of your god.
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@dinacountry2899 You're just confusing him more...
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@alonzoharris9049 You're just sore your pagan god blundered and said the sun SETS in a muddy spring...or was it the sun PROSTRATES under the throne??? Don't read the Bible with Islamic understanding, you will mess things up like your god. You're looking like a fool now because ONLY YOU sees the sun setting in the ocean. Did you forget to pray Fajr on time pagan? Is your head full of Satan's urine?
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@seaside9670 Don't worry... Those lies are gonna catch up to him
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@ma1la2z54 No, they cannot refute it because by refuting it they will be calling Allah stupid, and that's about the only thing we can agree upon with them. It was not Dul Qarnayn who said he saw the sun setting, ALLAH is the one who tells us what was happening..."until he came to a place where the sun was setting in a muddy spring"...that's from Allah's point of view
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@ma1la2z54 You think by saying "it's refuted" will change the FACT that the verse is still there and it's still ALLAH saying that? Where is the proof of your scholars who refuted it? Please quote them and let's see their argument...
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@ma1la2z54 Fabricated by who? Christians? You make it sound as if it was WRITTEN 50 years ago, and you know it wasn't. You're just sad it doesn't vindicate Allah's blunder. Allah is the one who says the sun sets in a muddy spring, not Dhu'l-Qarneyn. No amount of tafsir quotes and hadith quotes will get Allah out of his mess. Shame. YOUR god blundered!
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@alonzoharris9049 Jos 1:4 From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast. Silly pagan, where does it say the sun enters the ocean? You are a liar and deceiver like your father Hubal.
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