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Comments by "TheDionysianFields" (@TheDionysianFields) on "Nationalism vs. globalism: the new political divide | Yuval Noah Harari" video.
Felipe Correia Borges Here's how it shakes out. The right sees the individual as the kernel of identity and the 'nation' as the necessary secondary identity. The left sees the "group" (identity politics) as the primary source of identity with the secondary identity being at the global level (collective humanism). And so the right is in fact more individual-centric and I believe the statistics show that conservatives are less prone to identity crisis. But the real issue here is with the sovereignty of the nation-state. That is essential is a world with so many diverse ideologies and modes of existence. And each nation must establish a single, accepted identity in order to remain sovereign. When the prevailing customs and values of a society are too diverse, things start to disintegrate. You may have already noticed this phenomenon in your homeland and it's happening where I live right now. We need national solidarity. When the day comes that we have colonies on other planets with their own modes of existence, maybe then we can become a global society. But then the Earth will simply function as a single nation with the other planets being their own sovereign nations.
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Not at all. He was simply making the point that UBI is a more complex issue than we want to admit.
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@buckaroooooo Okay. What I'm saying is that there's zero evidence Yuval Harari is a communist. Zero.
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@buckaroooooo True, but the result is that they fall farther behind. Assuming UBI is a net positive in the U.S.
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This was great. The host kept trying to steer everything toward a globalist agenda but Harari just kept giving honest replies. The best was near the end where he re-framed the whole problem at the personal level in terms of disembodiment. You could see the host squirming in his chair. Even as a fairly staunch conservative, it's hard not to like Harari. With this video he makes my "rogue thinker" short list.
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Felipe Correia Borges Nationalism isn't collectivism. It's about a shared sense of identity and recognizing that we're all on the same team. Patriotism is essential until we have other worlds and alien species from which to reference ourselves.
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Felipe Correia Borges A nation can have different cultures but still share the same core values. The U.S. was like this until the last couple decades. I think people underestimate the effect the 9-11 attacks had on this nation. I would be interested to hear more about your country and your situation. It sounds like an interesting study but I also feel for you because I know what it's like to live in such chaos (I live next door to Ferguson, Missouri). The whole world has become a sort of nightmare because people are unable to see their own hypocrisy. But there is still hope. Have you ever thought about emigrating?
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Felipe Correia Borges I'm familiar with Brazil from my interest in mixed martial arts and I understand there to be some corruption in your government and law enforcement. Such things certainly don't help matters. I was hoping Bolsonaro would be more of a positive force for you than Donald Trump has been for the U.S. but it sounds like this isn't the case. Stay focused on your goal of relocating and that will help keep your spirits up. At least you have time on your side, I'm already 46 and haven't found a place in this world that suits me. It sounds like our countries are not so different, except that the U.S. was once united. Now we have separate geographical culture zones just like you say about Brazil. And lots of hate. It's too bad because we could learn a lot from each other. Keep studying but don't limit yourself. Study everything and most of all study yourself. Get to know what you really believe in and try to find people who share those beliefs. I have made the mistake of being too much of a loner in my life. It has its benefits but it's a hard way to live. I hope to travel to your part of the world soon. Keep your head up and stay in touch.
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Felipe Correia Borges I hope you are doing well, Felipe.
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He's wrong. A nation can suffer and grows to possess its own kind of sentience. He's just dead wrong.
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No, no he doesn't. He's still a cartoon character.
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@Eversca I know but I can't even joke about people like that.
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