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I'd say that in the 50s women were more depressed but today they're more embittered. In the 50s they were fooled (and mistreated) by men; during the sexual revolution, they've been fooled by their own (and led to mistreat themselves).
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I never thought I'd say this but she has some interesting points.
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@justbecause7625 All the republicans are applauding your deep wisdom.
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@nickb.235 I thought she was actually more articulate than Sarah. The fact that their side won the debate is a miracle but that isn't to say that the things they were TRYING to express weren't valid and insightful. All of these women "brought it" and should be commended for a civil debate on an important topic. The world needs more of these kind of women, and men would do well to pursue them.
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If you had a son growing up into this dating/mating scenario, you might feel differently.
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Other than some bad closing arguments, her points were valid and even acknowledged by the others. In fact, she was probably the most propped by the opposing team. Sure, she's out of touch with us peons (you would be too) but her idealism is noteworthy.
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The truth is that we need her childlike viewpoint because children see things that adults miss, and most children can't speak on an intellectual level. Giving mothers a salary may be impractical, and creating better porn a bit of naivete, but they're thoughts that can open up larger discussions and new ground...something desperately needed.
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@Jane-ow7sr Yes, it's a very valid half-truth. Sort of like, the only freedom we have is the freedom to discipline ourselves. Except that something like freedom of expression requires casting off restraint. A self-censored product can never be true art. As far as freedom of choice, isn't the whole idea to have the freedom to do the wrong thing? To make the wrong choice? In my view, freedom is something that must be claimed by each of us, and BEFORE we can start to understand the responsibility of it. We learn responsibility by exercising freedom and making mistakes and adjusting our thinking/behavior. But if I never afford myself freedom, my good deeds mean nothing. I also love how the word morality was slipped in there. Would that be my morality or the commenter's?
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This should have been, "Has Feminism Failed Women?" Missed opportunity.
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@Stupidguy2023 Her conduct is consistent with the current norms and hence not a decisive reflection of her character. Did you forget that Jefferson owned slaves?
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@ApolloVR6 No, it's not her last name and you may be out of touch.
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@TheLaziiness We can't do anything "everywhere all of the time." She's saying it should be the rule that society values both mothers and children, and extends itself wherever possible. The real downside is that it might encourage women to have a child even when they're not sure the father is going to stick around. But it's still a worthwhile addition to the discussion.
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@wolfofthewest8019 Porn wasn't a social issue in the 80s and an idea doesn't become invalid just because it's been around a while.
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@dublintvcontent2023 Again, that's nothing abnormal for a woman of her age/generation.
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@bliglum Society has been loosely based on 'survival of the fittest' for quite a long time and it hasn't gotten us far.
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@AsheAustaire You're the new king of rationalization. I notice you didn't mention one word about character.
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@AsheAustaire Whereas Shapiro's just an outright ideologue.
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If only that had been the topic. FYI, the result was "no".
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@VanceSterley They polled the audience at the end of the debate and it was concluded that the revolution hasn't failed.
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@UnknownBanana19378 We already knew there was a problem, or else they wouldn't be having a debate. All I can tell you is that they did things democratically and the people decided that it hasn't failed.
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@UnknownBanana19378 I think the main point is that the jury may still be out. Although there sure do seem to be a lot of unhappy women out there these days.
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Either way, she stepped up and took the challenge seriously, and even presented some good points.
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planckismus Rather than "marriage," I would say a devoted, monogamous, 2-parent home. But your point is taken, in spirit.
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@jd8184 The implication is that everyone crafts their arguments to support/justify the choices they've already made, which is the cheap cynicism of mediocre minds. This is a lame thread, don't bother.
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planckismus That's only because marriage is the situation that most often has those attributes I mention. But it's the attributes themselves, not a signed document.
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@Stupidguy2023 I'm saying she's perfectly normal for the context of her day and generation. If you're not judging her character, then what's your issue?
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planckismus Sometimes the most loving thing is to part ways, especially when there are children involved. This doesn't mean that the two parents can't still work together as a team and effectively raise the children, if they care. Marriage is a grand ideal, and it may simply be too grand for this world.
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@joshwelch5837 No.
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It's too bad Weiss always ends up preaching to the choir (and the elderly). She has a sharp mind and quite a tenacious spirit.
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I mostly agree, but if a hot cheerleader jumped in my bed it would still be hard to resist. "…since the body and our exterior worlds are direct reflections of our interior world…" That sounds a bit new agey, bleh.
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@knightheaven8992 But women weren't free, and freedom counts for a lot. Although we're quickly finding out that it doesn't equal happiness.
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Ask yourself if either of these two candidates are truly fit to be president.
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Women have far less impulse control than men. In fact, that's a primary reason feminists proposed sleeping around under the guise of "taking control of your sexuality." A mildly clever trick.
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@jasonu3741 What about women and children first?
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@Jane-ow7sr I'll keep it simple. Freedom--however dry of a well to those that know--must be held sacred and not conflated with other concepts. It's only when we choose or express from pure and absolute freedom that we can fall on our faces in our own unique way and grow as such.
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@Jane-ow7sr That sounds exactly backwards to me, and my experience lends no credence to that approach.
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@fredericklehoux7160 The hardest thing of all is to love oneself, including when it's time to get selfish. Also, what evidence is there that people want to be integrated?
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@bliglum Yeah, and don't forget about all the culture wars, gender wars, land wars and political wars that are going on. General happiness and morale nearing an all-time low. Drug culture...fetish culture...hedonism culture...all the things that led to Rome's glorious ending! Don't ever kid yourself. There are more people starving today than in all of human history.
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@StratumPress I can tell you that I never want to live in a society where everyone's smart enough to be a Republican. And I AM applauding...the four women in the video.
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@vainezaiven6677 Many people evade the consequences of their actions, men most of all. That's why women have been trying to level the field.
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@vainezaiven6677 I assume you mean giving WOMEN permission....And I never said it WAS the best way. Nice try though...lose the point and simply reframe the discussion. Maybe nobody else noticed.
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