Comments by "TheDionysianFields" (@TheDionysianFields) on "Joe Rogan Experience #1309 - Naval Ravikant" video.

  1. "If you want to be a clear thinker, you cannot pay attention to politics. It will destroy your ability to think." -N. Ravikant Greatest words ever spoken on the internet.
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  2. I heard more groans of hopelessness, ugh.
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  3. Perhaps, but keep in mind Naval's very much a "New World Man" (insert song lyrics here). He's just young enough to apply all the wisdom incorrectly and make a mess. I like the guy, to be sure, but he's right on that line of arrogance...flirting with disaster.
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  4. ​ @nogoprohero7164  He's attempting to combine eastern and western ideas in a novel way, which is admirable. However... It seems to me like Ravikant is a little too enamored with capitalism and the "game A" West. He's also admitted to being impatient and somewhat obsessive. And he has this bizarre notion that everyone can have the "good life." It all translates into an unstable recipe, sure to produce internal dissonance at some point. I'd rather have a grounded leftist like Yuval Harari mentoring the youth than a shaky right-winger like Ravikant. And I say that as a conservative thinker. Thanks for making me flesh this out.
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  5.  Szilárd Maku  Everyone can have a decent existence, but he literally says that everyone can be RICH. While I don't believe in "zero sum" thinking, no way in hell can everyone in the world be rich (by the standard that's in place).
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  6. He also says you have to apply some effort. The point is that all we can ever really have is equal opportunity. He never says everyone will eventually make the same amount of money. But I do agree that his logic is slightly circular. My biggest argument is that a person might be quite talented but their particular talent just isn't in demand during their lifetime. Or people don't recognize someone's contribution until after they're gone (or at least the magnitude of that contribution). So while I believe Ravikant is an honest, straight-shooter -- and generally on point -- I would agree with you that he maybe hasn't taken everything into account. But keep in mind, it's never going to be a perfect system.
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  7. This is where I disagree with Naval. I believe most of our suffering stems from not knowing what we really want. Watch the movie Swimming With Sharks if you doubt me. And what we DO want...we don't want bad enough!
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  8.  @michaflak1370  No, happiness is dumb because it doesn't carry meaning. What we want is meaning, even if it means putting ourselves on the front lines of a bloody war. We want to feel alive and have meaning. You can't stop desire.
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  9. Stretch it to at least 121:15.
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  10.  @bradleyjohnson6107  So we already have too much of everything and Sanders is here to give us more. Great thinking.
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  11.  @bradleyjohnson6107  I just wanted to textually downvote you. If Bernie's the best answer we've got, we're in big trouble.
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  12. Not many people could get away with telling the audience to turn off JRE and think for themselves. And right to Rogan's face! I don't have a point, I just love his gall.
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  13.  @DennisJosephin  Yup, and that's the whole problem. Naval preaches that line of thought half the time and the other half he acts like money is the shit. You can't serve two masters.
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  14. He trips over himself at one point when he talks about the folly of trying to solve external problems to achieve inner peace. He says, "Why are you trying to make money? To solve all your money problems," clearly stating that that's the wrong way to go about it. This from a finance guru...oops.
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  15. Right but they lose their edge, almost every time.
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  16. Yeah, I agree he was a little off-base there. I would say there's an ideal size, in the range of 50-100 people.
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  17. He does say let's get everyone rich first.
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  18.  @RemingtonMK  I don't recall him stating that. What about the part where he says that everyone can learn to code?
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  19. ​ @jeffmiller3499  I've said multiple times that I like the guy...how is that negative? As for the coding issue, it's complete BS. Sure, everyone can write a piece of code that can count to 100, but Ravikant's implying that everyone can make a living coding which is a total crock! Maybe 25% of the population has such a capacity and the market would only support that much anyway. He's just off base about this stuff.
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  20.  @alexanderwestphal9777  I didn't hear anything "woo woo" in there.
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  21.  @programmer1840  So can an excess of it. Money brings its own set of problems.
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  22. Yeah, Joe didn't seem too disturbed though.
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  23. Until these guys quit exalting capitalism, they'll never reach enlightenment. That said, this was a good talk.
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