Youtube comments of TheDionysianFields (@TheDionysianFields).

  1. "When you throw out a sophisticated religious structure, an unsophisticated religious structure comes in to fill the gap." -JP Holy crap, that's huge. I can't believe he said that as a passing thought.
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  2. Yes, this is right up there with the show Dance Moms...a criminal disgrace.
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  3. Have we ever had an idea?
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  4. Can you slow down and repeat all of that?
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  5. She's not THAT hot.
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  6. I think Nietzsche himself had quite a bit of contempt for the weak because they're just as power hungry but they try to attain it in underhanded ways, like inverting the hierarchy with bogus morals.
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  7. Some policies should interest us all, and we should start there. But when you're playing teams...
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  8. It's gotta be the worst feeling, to have everybody reading your books yet nobody taking your words to heart.
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  9. "We cannot go forward except from the place where we happen to be." That hit hardest for me.
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  10. The way women have traditionally chosen mates makes it seem like they're after power. That's why it's an uncomfortable topic.
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  11. Jessie's basic dietary philosophy is good but she goes too far when she demonizes things like oatmeal, honey and grapes. These foods contain some of the healthiest substances you can put in your body and to scare people away from them is unethical IMO.
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  12.  @erenjaegerbomb8653  So then...he was a pre-fabbed fall guy, probably well-paid to take that fall, and possibly living it up on some remote island (as we speak)?
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  13. I think you're missing a key piece of the puzzle: isolation. Or at least a sense of isolation (which can often lead to actual self-isolation). Also, we need a distinction between casual and bonafide conspiracy theorists. A true conspiracy theorist will take some sort of action upon genuine fears (prepping, storing weapons, acquiring surveillance gear), while a casual theorist is just going along with the herd to ease their dissonance--and hence not much of a threat to society. As you indicated, most of us are casual conspiracy theorists.
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  14. The Bible isn't beautiful, it's a dreadful mess of prose. Perhaps the worst-written book of all time. I think Peterson's primary set of ideas are fully tenable without God in the equation. Maybe he just likes the challenge of trying to defend something so nebulous and elusive?
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  15.  @mwilliamson4198  Can you name us a source that will give us the straight dope?
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  16.  @bubbasernie5762  Has anyone ever "gotten ahead?" I don't think so. It's all a grand illusion. We can choose to do something different but we like the feeling that money gives us. It feels like...power.
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  17. Nietzsche was a highly complex and somewhat contradictory guy. I think McGilchrist put it best when he said Nietzsche is toxic...but that toxic things in the right dosage stimulate and fortify. You might say, if Nietzsche doesn't kill you he'll make you stronger. Yes, I do like the guy.
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  18. You're saying aggressiveness is a virtue?
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  19.  @ivann9924  People don't compromise out of self-control, they compromise because they want to improve their social standing...to get ahead. The only virtue in play is competition, but personally I won't compromise in the name or competition.
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  20.  @Dan0TheMano  Do it right where you are. Start today.
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  21. 39:13 - best moment "We would have to acknowledge some dark things about ourselves in order to start helping."
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  22.  @Elijah_R  You can pull up the script and search for key words.
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  23.  @Ismakogie05  The carnivore diet is NOT cheap.
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  24. Kudos to Rogan for being honest about weight cutting.
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  25. People are finding other outlets, so now it has to be "worth it" whereas before all our eggs were in that single basket because we didn't know anything else.
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  26. I think he uses too much stock footage and convolutes his replies to muddy up the original question at times. But yes, his verbal fluency is impressive.
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  27. Sounds like physical escape to me. I think we need to remain integrated to a degree and exploit technology in the interest of effecting widespread change. In a sense, we need to become a cancer within the process of forward escape. It's difficult to do that if you're isolated from mainstream society.
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  28. Wait, when your teammate sells you out you're doing something right?
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  29.  @derianschmidt7252  Because it's vague, ambiguous, disjointed, contradictory, haughty, dogmatic and about as fun to read as the Magna Carta.
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  30.  @nemo2327  Except that artists and those left of center represent the majority of the puer aeternis. They have little respect for order, authority or the conventions of society. They dissolve the sacred and the ceremonial. And while they might be more inclined to protect the rites and rituals of tribal peoples, that doesn't mean they see value in any such rituals. You're speaking in direct contrast to the thrust of the video.
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  31. Yeah, but it's still a lot of gimmicky BS. Authenticity *isn't* contagious, and there's no such thing as an ambivert. It's just an introvert who forces themself to engage with people (often inauthentically) to garner a certain outcome. All you're seeing is her 'presentation' of herself.
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  32.  @hobgoblin9339  All well and good but two strong-willed partners in a marriage is generally a nightmare in the making. And a whole society of strong-willed citizens...? Self-esteem is what we really want/need, and there are other paths to get there. Already far too much pride in the world.
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  33. Milo's an interesting guy but he makes me so glad I'm not an extrovert.
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  34. Clawless
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  35. I thought he was about to get to the point but then the video cut off. The whole thing was a mess of a joke. Rogan called the guy out repeatedly and he just kept changing lanes without ever presenting anything solid. Terrible.
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  36. Believe it or not, there are other sources of equal or greater value. Lex is just a biased human being like the rest of us.
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  37.  @GlobalRevolution4All  She's actually a fine journalist who popularized the IDW but you have to read to understand that.
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  38.  @4651adri  It sounds like you want to deny women sovereignty over their bodies.
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  39. I rarely give rockstar status to someone who isn't even a musician, but this mate has earned it. (of course, Nietzsche gets rockstar status as well)
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  40.  @ljay3379  I don't know but ask anyone on the left and I'm sure they'll give you some reason.
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  41. Nietzsche's psychology was more pure because it wasn't tainted by religion. He risked his mind, whereas FD developed elaborate systems to cope and preserve his.
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  42.  @sharonefee1426  We have to question whether it's truly a suicide attempt is someone's using a "non-extreme" method.
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  43.  @donnakreye8339  I don't need to match that, the facts are already out there. Some of the things this woman says are true and some of it is her making up her own science. She knows she has a pretty face and people will blindly follow. I don't have a pretty face...hence, no YT channel. Yes, unethical is a strong word and I stand by it. I've researched the field of nutrition longer than Jessie's been alive.
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  44. Let there be no doubt that this is the channel of the year.
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  45. Self-acceptance is crucial, but it's also important to be able to say, "that's not ME."
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  46.  @Elijah_R  Actually, I think I misread your reply. My apologies.
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  47. Almost every video they make is a home run.
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  48. That laugh is really unstable and unhinged.
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  49.  @minedantaken1684  No, he's really not influential. People still bask in their weakness and slave morality, and most young people don't even know who he is. If Nietzsche's watching from beyond the grave, he'd still be in just as much agony and disappointment about this world.
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  50.  @Vitorruy1  What about the master vs slave dichotomy, ala F. Nietzsche?
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  51.  @MrClockw3rk  He should try something else. What he's doing is clearly no more effective than the "knock out" argumentation technique that he describes at the beginning. And for those who are already fascinated by consciousness (like myself), they're not filling in any gaps with bogus data. The whole speech was a waste.
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  52.  @banedon8087  A lot of what you say is true, but the spirit of the quote still rings true. While I can't be "happy" in a world such as this, I'm far more content than people who have far more than I do (I'm at the bottom). Attitude makes a difference.
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  53. This is probably just a momentary reaction, but eventually people will realize there are natural roles and capacities for men and women.
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  54. Actually, every one of his points was valid.
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  55. ​ @unclebrian1373 I didn't realize there was another Fox news and another Biden. What country do you live in?
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  56.  @ADerpyReality  Peterson never said any such things. He tells men quite clearly that it's their fault if they're being rejected by every woman. Entitlement thinking is the EXACT OPPOSITE of everything Peterson stands for.
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  57. What to do with the time that's given us...in relation to the time that we're born into. We must consider the context of our life and times if we are to have an impact.
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  58. People will shame you or tell you to leave him/her because they know they don't have the capacity to forgive and to love someone unconditionally. And so they don't want to be shamed by you when you take someone back. The psychology is fairly basic.
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  59. Well, it's only fearmongering until you actually watch the videos and realize that they're discussing important issues in a calm, sensible way. We really are at a crucial stage, and if anything, Ismail's optimism is what's misplaced.
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  60.  @vide0sgal0re2011  A) You can get real honey. B) Yes, grapes are full of sugar so just don't eat a whole bowl w/o any fats or fiber. C) Yes, steel cut are better (did I say otherwise?) but she literally states that "oatmeal isn't health food" in another video, which is utter nonsense. I'm awake enough to not fall for every pretty face that comes across my screen.
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  61. Except we live in a society that clearly DOES give these people power, and with a whole heart. What does that say about us, culturally?
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  62. Society's job is to maintain order and stability without regard to the freedom or realization of the individual. Anything that threatens order or stability serves as an existential threat to society which will respond aggressively with all resources (people) at its disposal. Self-preservation isn't limited to individual organisms.
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  63.  @juliekay6527  Well, I'm the one arguing for standing our ground rather than hiding in the woods. Did you not get that?
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  64. I'd say that in the 50s women were more depressed but today they're more embittered. In the 50s they were fooled (and mistreated) by men; during the sexual revolution, they've been fooled by their own (and led to mistreat themselves).
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  65.  @XpVersusVista  But if he doesn't get sex the whole thing is a fail no matter what. And if he does get sex it wipes away the last 50 rejections (even if nothing else develops). So of course it's a numbers game for men.
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  66. Ask a simple yes or no question and he'll give you a 3-hour, possibly related anecdote.
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  67. People read it as "enforced marriage." That's the only reason there's controversy.
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  68. "If you want to be a clear thinker, you cannot pay attention to politics. It will destroy your ability to think." -N. Ravikant Greatest words ever spoken on the internet.
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  69. Ill-prepared and unprofessional.
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  70. porkyV2 I want you as my publicist.
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  71. I agree (OP) but the number of times she said, "yeah, but they're kind of right" was a little disturbing. It gave the impression that she might have weak sales resistance. She also asserted that men are obsolete.
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  72. He's a great PR guy for the sleep industry. That's about it.
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  73. If everyone watched the movie Demolition Man, we'd see the world that we're creating and realize it's a world that almost no one wants. One simple, cheesy, B-rated movie.
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  74. Joe likes her. Insecure males don't. It was the same with Iliza Schleshinger.
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  75. Toward the 2nd half of what you wrote, whose fault is that?
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  76. Jim Carrey's a weird dude but that's a pretty good quote. I guess he's saying it's dangerous because you could end up dropping out of society completely.
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  77.  @madwilliamflint  I think it has greater relevance today. The herd was never so organized in past times.
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  78.  @naitzab  I don't believe he was distanced at all or he wouldn't have been able to be so keen and prescient. Sure, there's the thought that not everyone can be an ubbermensch but Nietzsche's fear was that ALL greatness would be extinguished by the encroaching herd. And while the herd has accomplished a lot, it's easy to see how each contributing member has fallen far short of their individual potential.
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  79. The workforce? That's more like how to survive the digital age in general.
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  80. I don't think this relates to the message here. It's more about self-awareness vs. self-consciousness. Humility is a separate topic. "All knowledge is self-knowledge." -Bruce Lee
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  81. Addiction to novelty.
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  82.  @mgmmj6664  Actually, all of Joe's points were valid.
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  83. I've seen him in much worse shape. This seems like middle ground to me. No rest.
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  84. Vitamin D ? CoQ10 ? Adaptogens ? MCTs ? Trace minerals ? Boswellia ? Maitake ? Apigenin ?
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  85. @extreme__relaxation Right, but this is the slow-motion version of Rome so people won't even notice until it's over.
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  86. Harari isn't being misinterpreted here. He's being intentionally misrepresented. It's a disgrace.
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  87. They haven't lied to us, we just haven't been paying attention.
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  88.  @margaretgaby4506  Not really. The postmodernists had some valid ideas that came about as part of a natural progression (stemming, to some degree, from Nietzsche's work). They just didn't know where to go with them.
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  89. Yes, but it's really all about subjective well-being, which is a term he failed to mention. We don't just remember, we subconsciously analyze. We also do a lot of comparing our lives to our friend's and neighbor's.
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  90. So funny when they're talking about marriage and Joe keeps ramping up the sarcasm but Bill keeps not getting it.
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  91.  @crysosisback7115  I would say that we all start out selfish and that there has to be some kind of event to break one away from that selfishness. This has historically been the act of having children. It's possible to stay solo and not end up selfish, just less likely. JD Vance (whom I don't care for) is right to be skeptical of politicians who don't have families.
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  92.  @trah625  I've been studying nutrition for longer than she's been alive.
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  93. I heard more groans of hopelessness, ugh.
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  94. On this single issue, sure.
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  95.  @MelissaR784  I never suggested giving a CHILD a SMART phone. I support giving a tween a (non-smart) phone for general social coordination and emergencies. Plus, I support giving a later adolescent a smartphone with limited social media features (and probably no social media accounts at all until they're at least 16). We live in the digital age, and it seems to me both cruel and irresponsible to deny kids a reasonable level of (digital) contact with their friends and peers. Keep in mind that if you deny them, worse things may happen. I've had underage girls hit on me using their parents' social media accounts.
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  96. Perhaps, but keep in mind Naval's very much a "New World Man" (insert song lyrics here). He's just young enough to apply all the wisdom incorrectly and make a mess. I like the guy, to be sure, but he's right on that line of arrogance...flirting with disaster.
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  97. ​ @waykee3  you're so smart you're even over your own head.
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  98. I never thought I'd say this but she has some interesting points.
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  99. Well, I'd say the first step is knowing how it all works and admitting that you're vulnerable to it. Then you can start developing personal policies to safeguard yourself. But now is the time because it's only going to get worse.
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  100.  @juliagulia8626  Yes! And there's nothing wrong with expecting monogamy. There's a reason we call it "cheating." By the way, I hold women more accountable here because they've historically been more likely to let men get away with infidelity.
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  101.  @srezzy1326  You mean like the woman in the video having a near tantrum fighting with a child? A little disgusting, no?
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  102.  @ADerpyReality  Yes but on nearly EVERY OTHER ISSUE these two guys are in complete agreement. That's what people here don't understand.
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  103.  @JohnCash001  No, the reality is we've been close to WW3 since WW2 ended.
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  104.  @justbecause7625  All the republicans are applauding your deep wisdom.
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  105. Everything this guy says is an attack on the individual so why wouldn't he cut one open to prove a point? Without the sovereign individual, human rights are moot.
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  106.  @briancornish2076  My rights are not negotiable.
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  107. Andrew Huberman: the guy who systematically stripped all the fun out of life and everyone loved him for it.
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  108. A job smashing stuff where you don't even have to think? Sign me up. I still have no idea what the debate or discussion is here. The main reason people don't like manual labor is because they're weaklings. Get in the gym ffs. Dirty jobs have been my life and when I watched this video I was baffled at how this guy even has a show. He seems like a fraud and nothing he said really makes any sense. But I guess this kind of thing sells to people who don't know any better...and people who will never in their life have to work a dirty job but just want to troll the lower classes. Pfft.
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  109. "Vampires pretending to be humans pretending to be vampires." "We have assumed control. We have assumed control. We have assumed control."
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  110. I do not agree that awareness of something is sufficient to change it. Awareness is only the necessary first step.
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  111.  @rdklkje13  Women (through ALL history) should have gotten more credit, yes. But they didn't used to be as credit-hungry either...that's important to note.
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  112. Smart guy, but he fails to mention all the benefits of plant-based foods and how easy it is to correct for the downsides. Actually, he does mention soaking and sprouting grains (but still hates them for some reason).
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  113.  @bbeeaauu  When a rich and sophisticated mythos is abandoned, a shallow and impoverished one comes in to fill the void.
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  114. No, it's how selective they WERE in choosing partners. By your thinking, you should question yourself if a promiscuous person takes an attraction to you.
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  115. It's ironic really. The more connected we become the more disconnected we become.
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  116.  @4651adri  Yep, and you're still treating women like children and telling them they can't consent when money is present. That's you wanting to control their bodies, rights and autonomy.
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  117. @Heath Sims It's true. She either has a problem with basic logic or she's intellectually dishonest to an extreme. Either way, JP's way too smart for her and this is the saddest debate ever.
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  118. @john 7 Dude, you're trolling every thread on this video. How much free time to do you have?
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  119. ​ @nogoprohero7164  He's attempting to combine eastern and western ideas in a novel way, which is admirable. However... It seems to me like Ravikant is a little too enamored with capitalism and the "game A" West. He's also admitted to being impatient and somewhat obsessive. And he has this bizarre notion that everyone can have the "good life." It all translates into an unstable recipe, sure to produce internal dissonance at some point. I'd rather have a grounded leftist like Yuval Harari mentoring the youth than a shaky right-winger like Ravikant. And I say that as a conservative thinker. Thanks for making me flesh this out.
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  120. This is the most disturbing comment section I've ever seen. When the voice of reason becomes a scapegoat, just wow.
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  121. The video is propaganda.
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  122.  @mazymetric8267  Yeah, I meant after they started having a choice. There's still enough of a timeline there to establish a pattern/tradition. Not that I've claimed that they did.
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  123. Another home run. This channel distills all that is healthy and positive in Western thought and points to a world that could have been. It's a veritable freight train of wisdom, and as of today, immortalized in my mind.
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  124. I get the impression he's highly introverted and could live without this kind of thing. It's all in the movies (and books). Watch the damn movie.
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  125. Tom's a good guy and he's right about a lot of stuff, but he's so far Nietzschean that I worry about him. It doesn't show here, but he really does seem to believe that life is a battle and the enemy is other people who all want what you have. It gets to be "zero sum" thinking which he should realize is one of those things that "just doesn't work." I'm pretty sure Jung wasn't a leftist. Neither were some of the existential psychologists like Rollo May. But, generally speaking, all the social sciences tend to attract the people who don't feel they can fare in the private sector. Same phenomenon with educators, which is of course a huge problem of its own.
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  126. 10:28 Taleb actually DID predict the '08 financial crisis, which may in fact have been just a pre-shock of what's to come. I'm not a doomsayer, but I certainly don't see the level of stability in our system that either of these guys seem to. There's far too much artificial manipulation going on.
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  127. Yeah, that was an awkward moment for me. Peterson should have probed him on that one.
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  128. What did you figure out?
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  129.  @avedoncarol4280  Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I've read some of Weiss's work and I disagree that her opinions are unoriginal. In fact, they are quite radical for the NYT, and a stark departure from what's normally found there. Joe has apparently forgiven her, as have I. P.S. And it takes a LOT to impress me.
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  130.  @avedoncarol4280  Doesn't sound bad at all. I can't remember the last time I had coverage.
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  131.  @hangten1904  Yes, but it gives the impression that there's such thing as a civilized war, which no sane person believes.
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  132. I'm pretty sure she got invited. Damage control? She made one false statement last time and Joe set things straight before continuing the conversation for another 2-3 hours.
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  133. ​ @Will-fr9hg  Thanks, I feel a little less alone in the world.
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  134.  @MiniiCitrus  You're too reasonable for the internet.
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  135.  @dlmalley8639  Love and compassion have been around for eons and they haven't gotten the job done. It just sounds like new agey crapola at this point.
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  136.  @dariuspalmer2829  No, I won't be always disappointed because I'm having no issues with navigating life solo. Men and women are natural rivals and sexual tension is the greatest tension of all. Keep shaking your head.
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  137.  @claramerchant9210  Do you have any good reference videos for this info?
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  138. Excellent video, bravo. Unfortunately, if advertisers aren't willing to do the socially responsible thing and pull their ads, nothing is likely to change.
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  139.  @frank-vt8yf  Rubin always felt like a fraud to me. It was sad to see Peterson get mixed up with him.
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  140.    What if it's not?
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  141. ​@Mark Onstad I appreciate the candor and thoughtfulness but I think we have to make a definitive call on whether a society can be healthy with any significant percentage of puer eternis (at least among the male population). We also need to recognize that maturity is a very hard line. There's really no spectrum, you either make it or you don't. Anyway, I welcome your leftist opinion, but with a skeptical ear. Too many on the left today seem to believe that a society can function without any grown-ups...even that it *should*. One last thing, and this is just me thinking out loud. Doesn't it seem that conformity is society's job? And that if someone is fully conformed by the time they reach a certain stage, that they never know what they're missing? Don't we need a stable core group to keep the machine running? There will always be the few who simply can't be conformed but imagine a whole world of free-thinking loose cannons (mature or not). Complete chaos.
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  142. @Mark Onstad "To be mature is to know how far from mature one still is." No, that's just being honest with oneself...which of course is vital (and the first step toward maturity). I agree with you about the paradox, but in a different sense. Maturity is like courage. You can't learn courage from a book, you have to go out and practice it; but you can't practice it until you first possess it internally. On the other hand, I completely disagree that maturity is a spectrum. In any given situation, there's the choice between the mature course of action and the immature one. There's no acting 50% mature. I will concede that you can synthesize maturity even if you're not there yet (young children often accomplish this), but it's a much harder way to go because you're always having to override your initial impulse (i.e. the immature response). There's a lot more to say here but it's a conversation that we almost need to start over in order to get it right. P.S. I believe the "machine" is what gives society its stability, good or bad. If we were to break into small, decentralized villages as Gandhi envisioned, maybe we could get by without it. Maybe.
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  143.  @chrislowe8746  Everyone is on the track, whether they want to be or not. But I would agree that it's not entirely fair. Neither is life, though, right?
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  144.  @brianmeen2158  I love risk and friction, even complete chaos at times. What we're really saying (some of us) is simply that we've done the math and it doesn't seem like a relationship is a good investment. It's a highly pragmatic conclusion, not fear-based.
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  145. Action reaction
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  146. You talk about some projecting!
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  147. I think she has an issue with dominance. For most women, that's exactly what they're looking for in the bedroom, and that means penetration (orgasm or no orgasm).
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  148.  @searose6192  I support your solution, although I don't think any IQ test can measure someone's thirst to learn. Nevertheless, excellence must be enabled to excel. We've been systematically killing off genius in favor of collective mediocrity.
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  149. Makes you wonder why they were sitting on it.
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  150.  @wabznasm9660  Re-distributive policy? Not even close. He's talking about cultural enforcement of an idea that he believes will create the best environment for children to grow up in. And that idea is monogamy, which already exists. So all he's saying is, "Let's keep that theme going. It's important for our children and their future." I tend to agree. The (hypothetical) example he gives is admonishing his son for cheating in a marriage. That's enforced monogamy. It's just sad how hard people work to misconstrue and misrepresent this man and his ideas.
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  151.  @squamish4244  Or she adopted the right habits and diet. There are a million ways to reduce inflammation in the body. Interventions work and epigenetics is real.
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  152.  @jesmcalli  Can I ask you what the cutoff is for promiscuity? How many partners am I allowed to have as a woman before I'm classified as a slut?
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  153.  @minigunner1218  First of all, it's a very fine line. Also, this post is more about the culture at large, which needs a balanced representation. Strong-willed cholerics and melancholies need to be counterbalanced by the more chill sanguines and phlegmatics. As far as relationships, it COULD work with two strong-willed partners but there would need to be an understanding who has executive decision-making power...at least after the kids arrive. As little trust as women have for men these days, this doesn't bode well. My parents were both strong-willed and it was a disaster because one was always undermining the other in an attempt to assume the dominant role. There can really only be one leader.
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  154. And if only Kisin wasn't, we might tune in.
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  155. @skippy6086 This video does NOT promote "rational analytical thought processes" to solve this problems of this world. Clearly, those are left hemisphere.
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  156.  @catherinebye884  Yes, kids (like you and I) were happier before phones existed. But that isn't the current situation. I'm holding my ground and would argue that in any complex scenario, there's no "black or white" solution. Furthermore, an adolescent should always be offered options and/or be involved in the decisions being made that directly affect their lives. I've made several comments here that outline a detailed, nuanced perspective and I find no reason to budge on it.
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  157. "Welcome to the controlled opposition!"
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  158. I would agree that humans have will, but not free will. We have wiggle room, and if you wiggle enough you can effect a unique result. Constrained will doesn't mean no will...there are shades of grey.
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  159.  Seven V  Great comment, but it seems to suggest that moving to lower resolution religions is the natural course. Is there any path the other direction, to even higher resolution ones? That would seem to me to be the ideal...like the way Einstein spoke of himself as a highly religious man.
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  160.  Jay L  Which part of it didn't you understand?
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  161.  @Dan0TheMano  Dangerous how? Why not just move to a safer neighborhood?
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  162. Makes me think of the book Shutter Island. (Dennis Lehane)
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  163. Phenomenal. This channel has made the distillation of ideas an artform. In my own model, left and right hemispheres correspond to masculine and feminine modes. Such makes this video even more striking in that it promotes a feminine theme in a masculine space (I've always seen this channel as part of the manosphere). In a word...bravo.
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  164.  @MonMon-qi5gw  Yes, a private platform has the right to require that you divulge your real name, address, etc. See how long that platform lasts. The question here is whether the government has the right to ban anonymity. They do not.
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  165. I would clean the pipes a couple times a month just to be safe. But I'm no monk.
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  166. ​ @aeasthouse316  I agree 100% about kids being too soft. I was one of them. But toughening up doesn't always equal growing up. Plenty of tough people out there who are still children, arrested in their development. Kids have it both better and worse than ever. I certainly wouldn't want to grow up in the world today. Take a nuance pill. P.S. They can make it within a failing system. Capitalism is a dying star, and we yet have nothing to replace it with.
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  167. She seems highly competitive...rivalrous.
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  168. The problem is that people have no self-control and it seems to be getting worse.
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  169. Optimism is much more likely to prove stupid. We want to believe.
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  170.  @holybilly3066  Absolutely. We should strive to see things as they are and keep a healthy attitude. I was just noting that humans seem to have a bigger issue with cutting their losses.
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  171.  @nickb.235  I thought she was actually more articulate than Sarah. The fact that their side won the debate is a miracle but that isn't to say that the things they were TRYING to express weren't valid and insightful. All of these women "brought it" and should be commended for a civil debate on an important topic. The world needs more of these kind of women, and men would do well to pursue them.
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  172. But then there comes a time to let go completely, and operate on pure instinct. This, I believe, is where the magic is created. Control is a double-edged sword.
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  173. Big amen
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  174. You make some fair points and men should definitely raise their standards rather than looking at it like a privilege to have any woman.
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  175. No, we need some people with contrasting views...such as Naval Ravikant and Yuval Harari. Enough with this echo chamber crap.
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  176. Joe doesn't disagree with anything she says in this video. She's putting his thoughts into words, basically.
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  177. Yet you could tell he was still eating it all up. Complete beta.
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  178.  @yuwelcome  As in, "get a life and quit posting insults to random strangers on a message board?"
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  179. So change society.
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  180.  @litesp  No, smart "people" are "attractive" (at some level). Plus, there's some subjectivity to "smart."
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  181.  @justanothernick3984  I don't get what you're implying. The new Gillette ad is a marketing gimmick directed at women because they drive 70-80% of all consumer purchasing. You probably think Nike really gives a shit about Colin Kaepernick's cause, huh?
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  182. The problem is with people seeing chaos as a negative *bad* thing. Anyone with this knee-jerk internal reaction might want to spend some time exploring their relationship with the concept.
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  183. I remain unpersuaded.
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  184. Except the wrong people are going to embrace this notion and run with it.
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  185. Doesn't it get old?
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  186. ​ @Fran-mr3yo  A real man will wait forever, but are those men showing up in sufficient numbers?
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  187.  @DarkPhantomSky  What are the real issues of humanity?
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  188. Yeah, but Rogan's a Gabbard nuthugger or he wouldn't have been so snippity. We should be asking ourselves why YT is pushing this video.
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  189.  @Mike343ful  No, what he's really saying is that your own mind is the central enemy. And he's right on many levels. But that STILL doesn't mean they're not out to get you!
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  190. If you had a son growing up into this dating/mating scenario, you might feel differently.
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  191.  @peterweston1356  I agree with you. Tom's a strange exception to many rules and I can't help but like the guy. He's genuinely curious and that will take him far if he can ease up on the Nietzsche a little.
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  192. Natalie's alright, but Peterson's still boss. And he made so many of these lucrative youtube channels possible...left, right and center.
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  193.  @Zaylink  No, it just makes you feel superior. Plus, I'm older than both of these guys and I bet I'm in better shape despite my binge drinking and general libertine attitude. Repression and deprivation are for fools. Note: I do not advocate the consumption of alcohol.
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  194.  @hamishmarshall7782  No, that's where Joe's wrong. It's about equality of opportunity. If incels are truly that undesirable, women will choose to remain single which is perfectly fine.
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  195. No, people actually LIKE Donald Trump. That's how far gone the world is.
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  196.  @dimem66  Maybe not but such simple dishonesties do destroy the fabric of society.
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  197.  @gordonbossley4185  I have big respect for those jobs, too. And I've done many of the filthiest ones out there. So I hope you're right and that Mike's not being exploitative and...capitalistic. But judging by his life path, he hasn't had a single job that could result in a speck of dirt on his hands. So that already makes me skeptical. No matter what, there are many jobs that simply can't be dignified (repetitive factory work being at the top of the list). We'll all be better off when the robots take them over.
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  198.  @gordonbossley4185  "Exploitation - there's a fine line between collaborating with willing participants for personal gain, and taking advantage of others?" If the pretenses are false it could result in a strain of exploitation. But you're right, there are much bigger moguls to fry. I'll defer to your overall assessment for now.
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  199. The right always picks the wrong people to scapegoat. Every one of Harari's views is intentionally misrepresented here, and anyone who's ever seen one of his videos knows that. Bet-David is the ideologue who wants the world to be run by dictators like Trump. In his eyes, fear is the only thing that maintains order. Sad.
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  200.  @TheRosyCodex  Have you got a better idea?
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  201.  @loganmcgraw9317  They're both kind of big kids, but in different ways. I have more respect for Kiedis but what would the world/internet be without Joe Rogan?
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  202.  @nodi1217  The U.S. isn't diverse. It's all McDonalds and Disney. Consumption and escapism, that's no culture.
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  203.  Michael Freed  Integrity is a "childish impossibility?" Tell that to Marcus Aurelius or any of the great men/women of history. Interdependence only works after personal integrity has been achieved. A world full of Howard Roarks wouldn't have the problems this one does. Character is real.
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  204. More is not always better...kids OR money.
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  205.  @dariuspalmer2829  No, movies have shown us what's (theoretically) possible and what we really want deep down, and now we're starting to set a standard rather than just take what we get. If being in a relationship is your only priority, yeah, you can find that. But when you get honest, is the typical relationship really worth it just for a sense of emotional security? Worth all the drama and instability and WORK? Men and women don't naturally mesh so you're taking on a complication that's sure to require an abundance of time, energy and effort. Or you could just go out and live your life and pursue the things that interest you (without giving up on the fairy tale of a woman who's smart, fun, faithful and appreciative).
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  206.  @liquidreality472  SM has been gassing up certain women, but destroying the confidence of others. So you have either an inflated sense of attractiveness or think you're unlovable. You're hot or you're not.
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  207.  @dariuspalmer2829  I didn't express a worldview. That would be something much larger and multifarious.
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  208. I find them both to be ideologues. Show me the nuance.
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  209. That's some serious self-awareness right there. Props.
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  210. These guys are way more alike than you think. You'd probably get a lot more out of the Shapiro-Yang talk.
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  211.  @deleted01  Doesn't mean he was wrong.
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  212.  @BlacksmithTWD  My sources come and go. I like Russell Brand, but mainly because he's informative and entertaining...NOT that I think he cares about my freedom or well-being. I follow the Dark Renaissance at the philosophical level...along with other "liminal web" and "metamodern" groups. Used to like Schmachtenberger and the game B group, but too much social engineering there. Zak Stein is probably one of the better thinkers out there at the moment. And Lex is okay, when he's not in "hippie love" mode (I particularly enjoyed his talk with Sean Kelly). The good news is that everyone's interviewing everyone these days so it's not hard to find content of this format. I personally find the obscure stuff more candid and thought-provoking. The machines will be biased, too.
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  213.  @dariuscedillo634  Lying is a pretty serious offense when you're in the public eye and people are looking up to you (with trust).
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  214. Um, Belle, Ariel, Esmerelda, Mulan...almost every Disney movie has strong female characters. It wasn't until Frozen that men started to be marginalized, which is the real issue.
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  215.  @ramonserna8089  Not a "self" loathing, as I don't believe Nietzsche ever identified with his natural weaknesses. I think he saw himself as highly misfortunate, which makes it all the more impressive he developed such an affirmative philosophy. But it had to be hell knowing that he himself could never become his "Overman."
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  216.  @Lisa-rl3ob  Nobody *owes* anybody compassion. I think you missed the concept.
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  217. No, the rest of the world would suffer from the sanctions. We'd all be paying $200 for a sweater and $8000 for an i-phone.
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  218. It would seem that a large portion of people confuse words with actions...even THOUGHTS with actions.
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  219. I was going to say, MM is the wise uncle.
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  220. I truly wonder if he's human sometimes.
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  221.  @il2xbox  All I can say is, amen.
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  222.  @PeterKuypers  I will take your word for it, which I guess means I'm taking your word over God's.
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  223. Nice propaganda vid.
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  224.  @bb7407  Absolutely. But society only needs (and can handle) a small number of such non-conformists. Instead, we're creating a system that churns them out in mass, upsetting what I see as a very delicate balance. Those who understand the paramount need for stability will always lean to the right.
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  225.  @whygohome172  They're immature in their own way but they lack influence. Artists have serious power to shape our world. The "sexual revolution" wasn't a group of feminists hoping to liberate women, it was all Hollywood hoping to dissolve more psychological borders (to gain more access to our desires so that we might be manipulated even more easily).
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  226.  @GlobalRevolution4All  Then how come you still don't know shit?
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  227.  @brianmeen2158  Wait, you think MEN are the ones guilty of that mindset? WOOOOOOOOOW!
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  228. "They'll never have a better selection of available men to choose from." How TF did she arrive at that conclusion? There seem as few GOOD men left in the world, as GOOD women.
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  229.  @alexmuenster2102  I agree with you, reproductive power notwithstanding. The pill changed the game and has perhaps been a net detriment to women, but it leveled the field in a way that was highly necessary.
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  230. I felt like Tom had most of the convo by himself, and could have had the rest of it. She lost me at God.
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  231. Can you list me one (1) valuable thing you learned from watching this?
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  232.  @jess4506  That's a unique interpretation and I generally like the sound of it. But I still say that if you're going to call yourself a man, you've got to stand up and commit to being one. And that often means swallowing your emotions (but not ignoring them) and doing things you really don't want to do. Being strong and tough where others might break down. But I fully agree that feminine qualities should be equally revered and appreciated in our world.
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  233.  @jess4506  90% of what you wrote seems like you speaking for the experience of men (with no apparent credentials) but I'll offer you some thoughts just the same: Men DO need to be in touch with their emotions (as I previously noted) and comfortable expressing them, but they also need to be comfortable NOT expressing them. You're right, women do have their own brand of strength and that's a wonderful thing (that happens to not be relevant to this conversation). Warren Farrell is an ex-feminist who basically gave up all social standing so that he can speak what he (now) knows to be true. "As long as men feel pressure to display one type of strength or fit a certain mold, men will as a group experience more self doubt/loathing contributing to more violence, higher crime/incarceration rates, and unfortunately more suicides." Interesting assertion with absolutely nothing to back it up. Nor will there ever be anything to back it up. I probably won't get back around to this thread for a week or so but that'll give you time to think about the following statement: Women don't seek nobility because it's not part of the feminine calling; but any man not seeking nobility is surely in a poor and tragic place.
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  234.  @sprezzatura8755  Agreed, except I believe there are a lot more opportunities for heroics than people want to admit. But we aren't being raised with physical courage.
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  235.  @FooHawk  Why? Because it's an act of blatant disrespect in an attempt to make you feel small/weak/inadequate, and to crush your confidence. And if you don't respond with anger/aggression, your girlfriend will surely take notice and begin to wonder why she's with you. Does that clear things up?
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  236.  @ClockwerkMan  Uh, nope. The slaves are basically saying weak is strong, and meek is noble. "We know because we have the corner on truth...because, God." Pretty sure Nietzsche would run them out of town.
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  237.  @gertie9881  Didn't I just say don't eat grapes alone? How is this a weight loss video? Where did I recommend eating high carb?
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  238.  @ThatsMrPencilneck2U  I don't know what any of that has to do with the loss of role models but what I would say to you is, find other ways to stand out. After all, you're only looking for one woman, right?
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  239. I'm just going to drop this quote here: “It is not despair, for despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt. We do not. It is wisdom to recognize necessity when all other courses have been weighed, though as folly it may appear to those who cling to false hope. Well, let folly be our cloak, a veil before the eyes of the Enemy." -JRR Tolkien
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  240. She misses the mark now and then, like when she claims women really do like "nice guys" and that a woman can't tell the difference between 5'10" and 6'.
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  241. Or some people just enjoy a good book/mystery, whether it's about a murder or whatever. The "good vibes only" movement is of greater detriment if you ask me. All those happy, smiling people may have been dying inside.
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  242. Quite true, the best diet in the world can't overcome a poor attitude.
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  243.  @wendysmith7458  That means absolutely nothing. You can have 3 kids and a pension plan, and still be a child psychologically.
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  244. That sort of goal-orientation is the exact opposite of seeing the other as an other. You're simply making romance into another achievement.
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  245.  @anonymoustruth5950  Where did you meet Daniel?
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  246. This all sounds like how to "manage" anxiety. Once we've acquired the tools to effectively manage it, we tend to forget about getting to the root and "solving" it. As with anything.
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  247.  @paulsmith5611  You make an excellent point, although I hit all of the notes right on cue and now wish I'd waited. It's a tough game to beat. Keep your head up.
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  248. Whoever convinced us we have to prove we're worthy of existence must be the devil himself.
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  249. ​ @richardcrook2112 I think having too many relationships is a bigger problem than having too much sex. You may have just been experimenting. What I ask a woman is, "how much time have you spent OUT of a relationship in the past 10 years?" I think a healthy, confident person spends at least half their time single, unless they were in one long 10-yr relationship. If I was going to ask for a body count, it would only be for the past year. Anything over three = pass. But I'm not sure I would ask at this point.
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  250.  @1nsertcred1t  Lol, you gave me the perfect example. Yes, I would definitely mind if my health insurance based my rate on when I used to be fat and out of shape, rather than on the fit person I am today.
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  251. Why strong willed?
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  252. It's a great line but it justifies manufactured "artists" for one thing. Originality is dying and such requires artists to step out and start a new conversation. I guarantee you Bob Dylan wasn't concerned with the running conversation. Explode the equation.
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  253. Exactly. But it's a matter of whether that excess is of your choosing, or are you operating on compulsion?
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  254. So now we have a video game nerd training us up to be leftists? Just because he got lucky doesn't mean everything is based on luck.
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  255. The guy has some good points but he seems like a complete tyrant bent on fear tactics and intimidation. I would hate to be one of his kids.
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  256. The hard thing about reinventing yourself is that it requires completely destroying yourself first.
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  257. Wow, I spoke too soon. JP totally gaffed at 19:30 and she had him but let him weasel out. A rare moment for JP to stick his foot in his mouth, especially when he could have easily won the point without naming gender-neutral traits. Shocking.
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  258. I've never seen someone with so much faith in one particular system. I suppose it's because that system has always benefitted him. That said, we (the little) people have every reason to be skeptical of lobbying...and power...and authority...and induced hierarchy.
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  259.  @jonhurley3467  Capitalism certainly has its faults and I haven't seen anyone deny that. But it's the best system we have (so far) in that it's the closest one to nature. In pursuit of civilization, things seem to go most smoothly with the least deviance from nature and its laws.
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  260. Did anyone catch the Isle of Wight festival this year? (I'm here for the levity, not the politics)
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  261.  @pcihazer20  Frankenstein, Lord of the Flies
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  262.  Szilárd Maku  Everyone can have a decent existence, but he literally says that everyone can be RICH. While I don't believe in "zero sum" thinking, no way in hell can everyone in the world be rich (by the standard that's in place).
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  263. No, he's still in the shadow of Rogan (but showing a lot of potential).
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  264. I find it disturbing that he didn't know.
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  265. No, it's assumed that men can handle themselves, because most men can. Or at least they used to be able to. And I don't mean retaliating with violence, that's still not being a man.
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  266.  @johnlewis8934  Cute. I don't suppose it would make a difference if I revealed that I'm objectively not an alcoholic. I can make a 6 pack last for a month or more. I can stare at the same can of beer for days and feel no temptation or compulsion to drink it. That's what I mean by objectively not an alcoholic.
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  267.  @Blattzz802  It's giving you one side of the story...that, by definition, is propaganda. Alcohol has been proven to have many benefits for those who drink responsibly.
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  268.  @nancybatch7007  He's still a Hollywood star, and no less impressive.
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  269.  @mogznwaz  No, the world has largely become an unenjoyable place. Their angst is valid, even if they're all entitled brats.
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  270. Let's get one thing straight, bud. If I'm going to invest 10,000 hours of hard work, perseverance and grit while suffering guaranteed injustice, it will damn well be in pursuit of my passion--no matter how whimsical that passion may be. Don't assume you're Jay-Z. Assume your potential is much greater.
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  271. @E C I agree with at least some of that. Question: Why does every woman I know say that they've made the worst choices when it comes to dating/mating?
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  272.  @BecamePneuma  He's undoubtedly trying to make money. That's all we can say about any of these guys...without doubt. (although I think Bilyeu might be better than most)
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  273. Maybe that means they're weak?
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  274. That's kind of what I was thinking. When you can hand pick your friends, you aren't likely to surround yourself with the depressed and miserable.
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  275. ​ @sotiriosnovatsis4529  Ok Pinker. Weren't you going to shampoo your hair today?
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  276.  @vaibhavgaur5268  Does NOT present itself as groundbreaking or profound. Merely offers one simple technique that could be effective in tricking one's brain into not overinflating the gravity of a situation. It's about training your mind to see an accurate picture so that you don't do cowardly things even when there's no good reason to (cowardly things such as trolling a message board of people who are sincerely interested in improving their lives). But I see no pretense whatsoever, it's more of a "take it or leave it" affair.
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  277. Really? I dance and bang my head and bounce off the walls, while rarely ever listening to a full album. I also listen to songs that just came out last week and put them on the same level as Journey, Boston, etc. You just have to know where to look.
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  278. Other than some bad closing arguments, her points were valid and even acknowledged by the others. In fact, she was probably the most propped by the opposing team. Sure, she's out of touch with us peons (you would be too) but her idealism is noteworthy.
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  279. The truth is that we need her childlike viewpoint because children see things that adults miss, and most children can't speak on an intellectual level. Giving mothers a salary may be impractical, and creating better porn a bit of naivete, but they're thoughts that can open up larger discussions and new ground...something desperately needed.
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  280. I'm more than twice your age and still drink on the weekends. It enhances certain things like concerts, MMA, etc. So I'm here to say that you didn't shut me up immediately. I'd never encourage anyone to drink but the whole "proud to be prude" movement makes me sicker than alcohol ever did. Just be sure your choices are you own and not someone who told you it's hip to be square, like these guys. Given that I spend 90% of my time alone and am NEVER bored, I don't consider myself a boring person. Life is about balance and health is about moderation. With self-control, all things can be beneficial...assuming one doesn't have a genetic predisposition for addiction. Again, I don't push alcohol or any other drug.
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  281. @Melted Synapse Completely disagree.
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  282. ​ @Jane-ow7sr  Yes, it's a very valid half-truth. Sort of like, the only freedom we have is the freedom to discipline ourselves. Except that something like freedom of expression requires casting off restraint. A self-censored product can never be true art. As far as freedom of choice, isn't the whole idea to have the freedom to do the wrong thing? To make the wrong choice? In my view, freedom is something that must be claimed by each of us, and BEFORE we can start to understand the responsibility of it. We learn responsibility by exercising freedom and making mistakes and adjusting our thinking/behavior. But if I never afford myself freedom, my good deeds mean nothing. I also love how the word morality was slipped in there. Would that be my morality or the commenter's?
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  283. He also says you have to apply some effort. The point is that all we can ever really have is equal opportunity. He never says everyone will eventually make the same amount of money. But I do agree that his logic is slightly circular. My biggest argument is that a person might be quite talented but their particular talent just isn't in demand during their lifetime. Or people don't recognize someone's contribution until after they're gone (or at least the magnitude of that contribution). So while I believe Ravikant is an honest, straight-shooter -- and generally on point -- I would agree with you that he maybe hasn't taken everything into account. But keep in mind, it's never going to be a perfect system.
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  284. And we forced them to murder and terrorize the world?
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  285. Don't BS us. No chance you're making multiple podcasts about 80's jazz. I question whether you'd do a single one.
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  286. No, he's just genuinely angry and he's never dealt with it. Too bad, such a great mind now surely gone to waste.
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  287.  @roboform100  Sure. I'll elaborate by saying that if you don't see how this video is a product of JP's anger, and even the tweet itself (to some degree), then you may have issues of your own. This is an angry human being who's now thrust himself back into crusade mode. Even though I feel he was right to go into that mode years ago (very different scenario), he's now fabricated a white whale that's sure to destroy him, because that whale is really his own pride. I can't believe I ever followed someone who can't admit when he makes a mistake.
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  288. @yuh No, I have my deal breakers and he just found one of them. I still appreciate some of Peterson's older lectures and feel they have lasting value, but I'm done with the guy going forward. He fails to live by his own words and instruction. That's cause enough to lose respect for anyone.
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  289.  @RecklessRayDinero  I don't disagree but a lot of men are incapable of functioning without the simplest thing (i.e. sex) so it becomes a seller's market for the women (and, of course PUAs).
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  290. And don't fake like you care more than you really do.
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  291.  @benforshizzle  The ideas that finally quashed organized religion in the West and got us to start carrying our own water (psyches) as Jung might say. Postmodernism was a necessary stage of disillusionment that put humanity in its place while destroying all places. Where we choose to go from here is up to us. But the point is that we can really go anywhere now that the constraints of dogma have been lifted. It's a beautiful thing for those who survive the nihilism stage. We get to choose what's sacred, set our own values, create our own myths and live out those myths as we see fit.
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  292. ...in order to be fully upgraded to his programming. There, I fixed it for you.
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  293. This is where I disagree with Naval. I believe most of our suffering stems from not knowing what we really want. Watch the movie Swimming With Sharks if you doubt me. And what we DO want...we don't want bad enough!
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  294.  @michaflak1370  No, happiness is dumb because it doesn't carry meaning. What we want is meaning, even if it means putting ourselves on the front lines of a bloody war. We want to feel alive and have meaning. You can't stop desire.
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  295. We're in the process of a regime change and that's why simping is becoming so commonplace. The only mystery is how it took women so long to realize that they hold all the cards. Today's young men see that clearly and so comes the temptation to defect. Why fight it? But, yes, I agree that it's all masculinity. Subtlety, grace, patience, modesty/class(?)...these things have been deemed valueless.
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  296.  @stvbrsn  It still seems incomplete to me.
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  297. Well, if you've ever actually listened to the WEF/Davos discussions (you can find some right here on YT), you might discover that these are some sharp people with damn good ideas. People like Harari, Dennett and Halpern actually give a crap about this world.
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  298. Usually only if you let it.
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  299.  @jocec3283  I think you're right. I don't see how anyone can get on here and defend Zuckerberg, even if he was treated unfairly this time.
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  300. A lot of those countries have a workforce shortage and are starting to incentivize reproduction. It's not always "out of the goodness of their hearts," and it's easy to see how such a policy could be disastrous in a country like the U.S.
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  301.  @user-xo4om8qv6m  I'm leaning toward agreeing with you, but I think if it had just been a one time, non-emotion driven affair, that could probably be overcome.
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  302. Tom brings up a good point: not all conspiracy theories are false (but yours is, so give it up). Dan is a social engineer at heart. Be wary. No...beware!
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  303. This should have been, "Has Feminism Failed Women?" Missed opportunity.
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  304.  @40yearoldvirgil15  For someone--especially an older person--who hasn't been exposed to the virus, the vaccine is worth the "minimal" risk. Otherwise, maybe not so much. But the secondary--and not insignificant issue--is that people don't like being told what to do. It's not difficult psychology to realize that the Left is purposely moralizing the issue and admonishing the Right in the specific interest of getting them to NOT take the vaccine. But you have to think.
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  305. Cultivate your intuition (and learn to TRUST it), and you'll never need AI. The best algorithm is within you.
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  306. Good talk, thanks.
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  307.  @yannis_2757  Peterson's not opposed to equality of outcome, in fact he would probably tell you it's ideal. He just doesn't think it can happen without a lot of destructive intervention. Why he didn't put that together on this issue is beyond me but it's cool that Rogan wasn't afraid to call him out. The whole monogamy deal is mainly for the benefit of children, not leveling the field for incels (who still wouldn't get laid). It's a topic that needs addressing and while Peterson was off base here, I believe his heart was/is in the right place. He's very much about the children.
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  308.  @justanothernick3984  In what way? I didn't even know who Jordan Peterson was until a few weeks ago. I also spent the majority of my life on the far left (around 30 years). I'm not rationalizing for JP, I'm giving you my honest take on things. And since writing these comments 2 days ago, I've come to agree with him on enforced monogamy. It makes sense. It's what women want. It's best for the children. I say that as a man who currently turns away more sex than he engages in. Tell me where my bias is?
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  309.  @justanothernick3984  Listen more closely. Peterson isn't opposed to equality of outcomes, only to artificial manipulation of the system (aka social engineering) to create equality of outcomes. Monogamy is obviously an ideal. All Peterson's saying is that it's worth striving for. And that the way to keep monogamy mainstream is basically to hold each other accountable...for the sake of the children (his exact thought). It's a cultural issue not a political one. We can do better. If Peterson likes the status quo, why is he out making waves and basically leading a revolution? The left is pushing the regressive policy...we were collectivists before we were individuals (don't you agree?)
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  310.  @atropabelladonna  First of all, Gillette has tons of women's products now. And as for married men, their wives know very well which products they use. The fact is that women drive 70-80% of consumer purchases. But I suppose it could also be directed at feminist or "white knight" men...although I'm still hoping those aren't too prolific. Am I being naive?
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  311. It should at least be tailored to the seven male personality types, in terms of how to attract/approach a woman AND what kind of women to pursue for each personality type.
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  312.  @Amitch592  And actually, Weiss isn't what this video paints her to be. She's the rebel who brought the IDW into the mainstream. She takes on giants like China and Disney, and is generally a pretty sharp girl. Don't base your opinion on one "out of context" youtube clip.
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  313.  @deplorablemike3349  Trickle being the operative word. It' sort of feels like trying to catch snowflakes in your mouth.
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  314. You're officially the new professor Sugrue. RIP
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  315.  @LisaPFrampton  Yup, food and gas. And who does that hit the hardest? The people at the bottom. There seem to be a lot of people on these boards who are just very clever trolls. What % of the population do you imagine are making $40/hr?
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  316. It's not bizarre to be concerned about others from your own demographic. Perfectly natural.
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  317. Stretch it to at least 121:15.
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  318.  @bradleyjohnson6107  So we already have too much of everything and Sanders is here to give us more. Great thinking.
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  319.  @bradleyjohnson6107  I just wanted to textually downvote you. If Bernie's the best answer we've got, we're in big trouble.
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  320.  Ryan Lee  Thanks?
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  321.  @mostbeautifulbelovedgarden  So what does "static" refer to in your analysis? I say there is always noise (static) and there is always signal, and that the signal can often be found as a pattern. But, of course, one can misinterpret the signal due to internal biases or the wrong level of analysis.
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  322.  @Guy-xr8lj  By becoming balanced and/or nuanced in your views. Basically, by not being a "follower" and thinking for yourself. How many positions do you hold on different issues that wouldn't be readily accepted by your chosen political party?
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  323.  @mostbeautifulbelovedgarden  "but you definitely should discern when it is useful and when it is not" Hmm, I can't stop thinking about Wil Smith in the movie, I Robot. What was that line he said? By the way, I'm not (fully) disagreeing with you on any point.
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  324.  @mostbeautifulbelovedgarden  Detective Spooner (Wil Smith) was following clues that no one else seemed to think existed. Everyone, including his boss, was calling him "crazy." At one point he says: "Does thinking you're the last sane man on the earth make you crazy? Because if it does, maybe I am." The irony is that he WAS conspiracy-minded, and was following the clues for the wrong reasons. But he still ended up the hero. My thought is that the screen of the real world is never all static. It's half static, half deception and .000001% signal (of some kind). That said, of all the current conspiracy theories going around, I lend them a combined total of ZERO credence.
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  325. She lives in the US?
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  326. ​ @we4r119 You could say, "Sorry, but I'm focused on other things right now." Because if you weren't focused on other things, you'd certainly give a guy a chance, right? Because surely you're not all about looks and the superficial, right? Are you suggesting that men should approach women that they don't find appealing? Should we be happy about being shot down and just tuck our tails and move on? Should women be able to reject at will (and without reason) without prospect of a verbal repercussion? These are all valid questions, no matter how harsh you think they sound. Yet women will say, men just need to get over their fragile egos. But it's not about that...the reality is that there's a lot more pressure on men in regard to success with the opposite sex. Much of which we put on ourselves, but it's still there. We're ingrained with the idea that you simply can't be a man unless you score with women. My issue is the women don't even try to understand this stuff. They seem to be in their own world. Note: I in no way support the idea of a man trying to intimidate a woman who rejects him, and men should always strive to take things like a man. But as the OP pointed out, it takes a hell of a lot of courage, so if I react with a harsh word or two at being shot down without a hint, well, at least don't act surprised. P.S. You have a good point about the impact of prior abuse. That's not to be overlooked.
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  327. ​ @meesamagill1193  And what I'm saying is that you can't expect someone to be happy about being rejected, especially if you know just how much it takes for a man to approach a woman. Devastation is the word, yet you would look for "grace" in response. Yes, at some point it becomes harassment and should be treated as such, but it's not reasonable to expect every man to just turn and walk away without a word. What you CAN do is take it as a sign that you made the right call. The man you're looking for surely WOULD "take it like a man," right? (but don't expect to run into many of those in a lifetime) Anyway, you certainly don't have to apologize or explain, but shouldn't you at least know (yourself) why you rejected someone? And if you get only positive responses, will you be inclined to stop and wonder why you didn't even give a man the time of day?
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  328.  @t-.-t.  A stalker is a criminal. So is a murderer. Those are different things than someone who is merely upset about being rejected (and if you've ever been rejected, you understand how it feels). If you truly equate "male" with 'someone who murders if he doesn't get his way', then there's not much point in the conversation. How would you advise a young woman to reject a man?
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  329.  @MySimDied  There was a rumor that women were less concerned about looks than men. This doesn't seem to be the case. There's a current study out that says 70% of women wish they were approached by men more often. I'll let you draw conclusions from there.
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  330.  @jendoubinour6902  The U.S. is about self-responsibility, and that includes accepting the misfortunes with which you were born. I was born into the lower classes and that helped forge my personality and develop my character. There's no perfect system but the one we have works if we can prevent major monopolies. It's more important to preserve the meritocracy at the price of a little inequality, as long as that inequality isn't artificially imposed or visited on a specific demographic. Things like the public library system help even things up because anyone can go there and get an education for free. Bernie is way too far left for the spirit of American individualism to thrive. We're not like other places and don't want to be.
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  331. Loudest mic drop ever!
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  332. Certainly a problem.
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  333. No, he's right. Genocide's still the biggest deal. But this isn't far off.
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  334. Not many people could get away with telling the audience to turn off JRE and think for themselves. And right to Rogan's face! I don't have a point, I just love his gall.
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  335.  @ภัทราภรณ์วาปี-ธ8ฌ  It would be if she gave two shits about "Joe's fan base." How many posters here do you think read the NYT?
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  336.  paulsan2112  Joe doesn't have to finish anything, he makes the rules. When you realize how much he likes this girl, it's going to plague you forever.
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  337.  @toria165  She's a jew. She's a she. She has leftist views. She slammed Tulsi Gabbard, the adopted darling of the right. She's smart, confident and outspoken (this might actually be the biggest factor).
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  338. I think she's calling for the "will not" money to go to the home makers to supplement the primary income. I've heard worse ideas.
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  339.  @lordpogggaming7495  So you don't feel "home maker" is a real job worthy of compensation? Do you have an overall solution in mind?
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  340. This is you not wanting to admit Joe Rogan's a solid thinker.
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  341.  @bfkc111  Instead of just rambling, why don't you point out a position that Peterson holds that you think is off-base? Then attempt to back up your claim. Even on the issue that Rogan is addressing, which happens to be the only place I disagree with Peterson, he still makes a reasonable case. Society would be healthier if monogamy was the ironclad norm. JP backs that up quite adequately. Rogan is only disputing the idea that it should be enforced. Toward your argument, one doesn't have to pass any course to be a philosopher. Philosophy doesn't claim to be a science and in some ways you're better off if you haven't "poisoned your own well" by studying previous philosophers. All you really have to do to be a philosopher is have some human contact and think about things. JP's ideas are in fact very coherent and cover the ground that's been neglected for the past 40-50 years. What else do you want?
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  342.  @krissmitchell8513  Don't you wish you knew.
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  343.  @krissmitchell8513  Generalizing is not "overgeneralizing".
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  344. Yep, then he catches himself and corrects it.
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  345.  @alexmason3190  For one thing, strength is one of the 4 pillars of masculinity.
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  346.  @21ruevictorhugo  That's true, the concept is sound. I don't claim to have the solution, I only know what's not working....modern capitalism. But I wish you all the best.
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  347. ​ @antayafairless9028  How could I be projecting unless I'm a weakling? And if I was a weakling, why would I write what I wrote? Yes, some people are disabled. I don't expect them to do physical labor and that's why I didn't make any statements pertaining to everyone. I also never said it was my business what people do for a living. I find the OP's story to be lame. I expressed that and gave my take on the overall issue...as much as I could decipher it. I also gave an honest opinion of the guy in the video. My work's done. And it wasn't even that dirty until you came along and muddied things up just to aggravate me.
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  348. It's because they're both betas (pretending to be alphas). Gotta stick together.
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  349.  @CrazyyCanadian  Yes, that's a weak argument--it's just not MY argument. I was responding the the OP (re: civility) and saying that if there isn't any alpha energy in the room there's not going to be any real aggression, while alluding to the idea that these two guys are more alike than different on the inside. But for the record, I'd gladly engage in a debate with either of these over-hyped fast talkers. I see right through them. (Note: I also see right through guys like Andrew Tate and Justin Waller)
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  350. Or there is no enemy and all is projection.
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  351. Wait another 10 years and you won't care about any of it.
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  352.  @jonmacdonald2193  Nobody said anything about worshiping anyone. Peterson is transcending conventional patterns of thought and providing glimpses of an underlying structure of reality. Nietzshe shattered our false conceptions and now Peterson's trying to reveal the truth of the matter.
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  353.  @LHelvi  I admire you, to say the least. Self-responsibility is a dying art. There's so much advice I could offer but I don't believe you need it because you already have the right attitude. Kudos.
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  354. I'll take responsibility for the Taoists.
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  355. Really? That's your biggest problem with the current state of affairs? How did you even end up here?
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  356.  @mreyesxix  Yeah, I think Blackwood mentioned something about reading what's most transformative. There aren't enough hours in the day anyway. There are about a dozen books that I owe my life to, including Man's Search For Himself (Rollo May) and The Road Less Traveled (M. Scott Peck).
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  357. Kudos. But so few will make the transition.
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  358. I listen to music while working out but it's never my favorite music, just really heavy stuff to stimulate aggression. I also watch UFC. These things may trigger some dopamine but the upside of keeping me focused and energized seems well worth it. Am I missing something?
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  359. Have it right in front of me. Power and Innocence by Rollo May is even better. All the information we need is already out there.
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  360. This notion that all cultures are incompatible is the dumbest things anyone's ever said. Please remove yourself from all political discourse immediately.
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  361.  @ltmund  The OP made a blanket statement about cultural diversity, there's not really any denying that. Two or more cultures = cultural diversity (technically, just two). Cultures don't need to mesh to exist side by side. Only cultures built around religion would seem to be a problem (which aren't many at this point). However, from their POV, it's cultures that are NOT built around religion (or, perhaps, are weak in their religious convictions) that are the problem. My personal belief is that any culture that doesn't have discipline, understanding, flexibility and curiosity as its cornerstones, along with self-responsibility at its core, is incompatible with ALL other cultures.
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  362. The enemy needed a new face. Harari's was as good as any.
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  363.  @Spark-In-The-Dark  Classic excuse-making. Slave on.
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  364.  Michael Freed  Yes, that's why there can be honor among thieves and dishonor (so often) among "upstanding citizens." And, yes, it's basically what you said (it's in writing). Personal integration = consistency among oneself. The only other possibility is personal disintegration, which doesn't work. You're making this stuff too difficult.
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  365. I recall GW using the same line once.
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  366. October 7th was kin to the Holocaust???
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  367. She's only annoying if you're afraid of confident women.
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  368.  @Oveneise  Apparently it is for you and the rest of your youtube cohorts.
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  369. Proving that sleep isn't the "most" important.
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  370.  @theyoungestday  Forgive me, but those sound like the exact words a leftist AI bot would post here.
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  371.  @dariuspalmer2829  I guess, if you presuppose that interpersonal romantic relationships are the sole source of meaning in life.
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  372.  @JustKidding-lk1bx  When Nietzsche says to love whatever fate befalls you, it feels like toxic positivity. Why should I try to enjoy pushing a boulder up a hill repeatedly? It's a little too close to "arbiet macht frei" in my book.
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  373.  @JonathanLoganPDX  I agree with most of what you wrote but I don't think Tom is conspiracy-minded. I think he's genuinely concerned, even afraid. I see the world at a low point but I don't see any greater threat than there has been for decades now. Posting these sort of videos only amps up the paranoia and accelerates things. We need equanimity and resolve. At the same time, we don't need to delude ourselves with positive thinking. Things are bad. There's work to be done...the dirtiest work.
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  374.  @davidlamb7524  I would argue that there WILL be a world leader. Even the US citizens intuit this, which is why they don't protest some of the horrific actions of their government. But your way of life could change overnight. Most countries know that they have no chance of ever being that leader and choose their allies carefully (as they get on with trade and development).
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  375. I hope he means that each of his guests has something to teach him, not everyone.
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  376. Liking a bunch of people only hurts the true friendships that you have.
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  377. Exactly, but most of what we're calling novelty is just recycled and reformulated. Look at Hollywood. All variation on a handful of themes. "There is no new thing under the sun." -Solomon
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  378.  @nunyabizness3777  Right, but today's left seems to despise Israel.
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  379. I'm not sure how Jung would feel about that rapid of a transformation. "In filth, it shall be found."
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  380. There's a captain Ahab trapped inside Jordan Peterson and I fear the white whale just got the best of him. Sad.
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  381.  @natrelacoustix  Maybe, but a hamster with a strong and sound mind at least has a chance. Or do you see some current way out that the OP is overlooking?
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  382.  @BlacksmithTWD  I really can't in good conscience because I know they all have some bias (i.e. agenda) or another. The point here is to vary your sources and compare the information being given. And not to take any of it too seriously.
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  383.  @JamesWilliams-jf3hd  I doubt anyone has criticized Trump more than I have, but I'm glad you found something amusing. We all need more laughter.
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  384. Wait, working in the corporate world turned out to be a beautiful thing?
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  385. ​ @B0Davis  It sinks in but it's filtered through your worldview and many opinions get conflated with whatever facts are offered. If you're going to get educated in this way, utilize as many sources as possible and that way the opinions will largely cancel each other out. DON'T EVER--FOR A SECOND--BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE GETTING UNBIASED INFORMATION FROM A YOUTUBE CHANNEL.
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  386.  @JamesDavis-xd3ci  If you agree with my points then why didn't you include them in your original comment instead of just propping the idea that this channel is a safe place to get a balanced education. Seems to me you left ample room for my reasonable assumptions. Goodbye.
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  387.  @JamesDavis-xd3ci  Obviously, you don't understand the continuity of a thread and how everything links back to the original comment. We are not posting our opinions in a vacuum.
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  388.  @JamesDavis-xd3ci  Really, I'm assuming we're commenting in a thread premised by someone else and that our comments are lensed through it? Maybe we're not really typing at all? Thanks for this exercise in exasperation.
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  389. Whose morals?
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  390.  @MsLinz1975  Cause and effect has nothing to do with right and wrong.
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  391. ​ @NickOleksiakMusic  I disagree. It seems clear that nearly all the best writers, actors and artists suffered unmitigated abuse and/or trauma as children. It seems to be part of the deal, and I would argue that we are very little--if anything--beyond the sum or our experiences (and our interpretations of them).
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  392.  @Lisa-rl3ob  These same men? You want to believe it's the same men because you want to believe all men are the same. Suits your narrative.
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  393.  @buildmotosykletist1987  Hey, I hope you're right. Meanwhile, we can't even get a majority vote to investigate the Uyghur atrocities. China has serious leverage, don't you doubt it.
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  394.  @kangaroomax8198  What would be the point of a billionaire product pusher wanting to relate to the commoners? How can you even ask that question?
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  395. There's such a thing as too much humility.
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  396. Peterson's not big enough to take on Twitter. He'll either have to swallow his pride or eat the consequence. This video does nothing to improve his image or position.
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  397. So what if they're not evil, they're grossly negligent and socially irresponsible. Which is plenty (in my book) by which to judge them. Calling the "system" evil fosters the very plausible deniability that lets everyone off the hook. (And it's also dumb.) Indirectly related example: If I'm Hershey or Nestle and I know that at any point in the process children are suffering in order for my product to reach the consumer...and I choose to stand by and let that happen...I deserve no less than absolute condemnation from all of society.
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  398. Mark Zuckerberg has good posture, too.
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  399. I think you have to be near a city to keep your resistance up. If you get too out of touch you become soft-minded. The Amish are homesteaders but they have no clue about China, EMPs or biometric sensors...like lambs to the slaughter.
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  400.  @JimKernix  Never said to live IN the city. Never said rural life makes one soft-minded. Never said the CIA isn't worth keeping tabs on. I said that if you go off-grid you'll be a lamb to the slaughter because you won't see what's coming until it's there. And unless you're moving to Mars, you WON'T be outside of it. Do whatever you want.
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  401. It's one of the great tragedies, that men don't read.
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  402.  @sagittariusa3603  That's true. Aggressiveness is certainly not an unequivocal virtue and can easily be used to manipulate. But we might also say: If one doesn't discover and harness their aggression, someone else will.
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  403. The book Underbug by Lisa Margonelli is a great primer for this subject.
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  404.  @ehyeh365  Thanks for a thoughtful reply. It's too bad so many people view the situation in black and white. I believe we should have the 'right' to own things, but that any advanced being wouldn't feel the need to do so.
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  405.  @TimBitts649  I mostly agree but I think you tried to cover too much ground here.
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  406.  @chrislowe8746  I think people romanticize the hunter-gatherer days. Imagine you're in the first tribe to discover fire. Are you going to share that discovery with other tribes? Hell no. You're going to keep it for you and yours, and if it helps you build an empire and crush the rival tribes, great! We take care of our own, for better or worse. I myself am a deplorable capitalist. I also started the race 60m behind...or at least 30. But as long as it's still possible for someone to start out behind and end up ahead, I don't think the system is completely broken. My guess is that capitalism was an antidote to the utter boredom that came with the agricultural revolution. I have no reason to believe people would be any happier without it.
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  407. I think he outed himself as a beta male, which isn't terrible I guess.
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  408. Actually, I should simply say that his pride won't let him "admit it." I'm not certain how much of an apology is in order (it's worth thinking about) but nevertheless, I can no longer follow this man.
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  409. And this is the kind of cheap misrepresentation that plagues the internet.
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  410. While I'm not a fan of Destiny, I don't find him to be "disagreeable." It just seemed like his views contrast with Peterson's.
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  411. Yet he's still giving us more truth than the majority of intellectuals. At least he's open about American exceptionalism as the driving force and doesn't try to disguise any of it.
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  412.  @HisMajestysonNservant  This. We should already be factoring in that a CIA associate isn't going to give us the full truth. Still, there's a lot to be learned from the guy in terms of human psychology (not that he has it ALL figured out).
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  413. And then you watched the movie Her.
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  414. Lol, you do realize that Assad doesn't rule Iran, right?
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  415.  @intothemoat  They could sleep better at night.
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  416. How would that pertain to the conversation? Besides, the conspiracy theory section clearly DOES address such things, making YOU look very much like the tool.
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  417.  @taLLdavid33  Was it ever valid?
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  418. They're still all butthurt because this girl offended their political sensibilities when she denigrated Tulsi Gabbard. Funny thing is that Weiss has more right-wing tendencies than Gabbard.
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  419. At some point we're talking about altering personalities just to create a more peaceful world. A world without any edge or gall.
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  420.  @MrClockw3rk  So is Dennett. It's sad because I watched a video with him and Yuval Harari, in which he actually presented some interesting ideas. But this video is the equivalent of Zizek telling us we should embrace garbage and live in harmony with it. Pretentious crapola.
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  421. It seems like it, but people are pretty content with their Netflix and creature comforts. Complacency still rules the day.
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  422.  @NadiaInNewYork  This is change "from the inside out" as Stephen Covey would put it. If you have the proper mindset, your behavior will follow; but if you simply adjust your behavior, your mindset will remain and success will be temporary/limited. Thanks for the contribution.
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  423.  @underscoreisnotvalid  You, my friend, should probably start with a cat.
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  424. Seems like you need this video the most. Wow.
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  425. All theories are still just a theory.
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  426. Bump for an author response.
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  427. I kind of like, "No one is coming."
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  428. The assumption being that Musk is happy? Or is it that saying 'feck you" to someone is what makes a person happy? Please help.
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  429. Academy of Ideas is pretty good too.
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  430.  @Avicena-tf5uj  Are you sure about that?
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  431.  @macaluso48  Thanks. Some people will get a spike from the grapes, but they need only have a tablespoon of olive oil beforehand.
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  432. The average person couldn't care less about artificial vs. real. We abandoned reality LONG ago.
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  433. Isn't that basically what Freud got busted for? Not to negate your point in the larger discussion but it's interesting to contemplate whether inducing trauma could offer a starting point from which to conduct successful therapy. Except...those pesky ethics.
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  434.  @1videoormore  You're confusing critical thinking with critical theory. Critical thinking is about the ability to penetrate an issue and get to the truth of the matter. Such as by genuine philosophical analysis of different historical works (hint, hint). It's not about being cynical or skeptical of anything and everything. That's some postmodern nonsense. Asking questions is anything but fruitless. Although you do have to ask the right questions.
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  435. To all the trolls here (you know who you are): Sure, all things being equal, this could just as easily be an echo chamber as any place else on the internet. Except that all things aren't equal (and that's why we employ critical thinking skills). Philosophy is the pursuit of wisdom. Politics is the art of influence and manipulation. This guy does seem to lean (slightly) to the right, but that doesn't mean he's practicing politics. The lens Joe uses to analyze historical works is quite fair-minded, and he consistently tells us not to take his interpretations as gospel. Such things aren’t the mark of an influencer. There’s much more to be said but I won’t draw this out because I know people can’t be bothered to read more than 2 paragraphs, but the bottom line is that the OP is spot-on about this video (IMO). The people that need it won't show up because they're too busy seeking material to confirm their bias. That doesn't mean that everyone here is a balanced centrist, just that the bulk of us are here to get to the bottom of things, even if that should upset our own views. The rest, apparently, are cheap trolls. Philosophy is the anti-echo chamber.
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  436. Ok, but how does that tie into going without sex?
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  437. Bravo all the way. You didn't blame the food (or give up eating, lol), you made the necessary adjustments and improved your life. My highest admiration.
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  438. If this was Tulsi Gabbard speaking the *exact same words*, it would be all upvotes.
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  439.  @deltamom  Yes, her definition DID have a sense of self-responsibility baked into it, which inspires me to agree. However, we little people still have that foot on our necks. Until you gain some legit sovereignty, it's a grueling battle. But if you want to own yourself, own every bit of the process. OR...you could always drop out and go your own way (even without joining a monastery).
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  440. He's right that women are usually damaged in the head by age 25. The glaring irony is that it's Tate and men like him who make them that way.
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  441. I wish I was a neutron bomb, for once I could go off. -EV
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  442.  @brianmeen2158  Well, that should tell people something given that both these guys are over 30. Except...I'm over 50 and alcohol is still a great joy for me (on the weekends). Could it be that these guys did something wrong along the way and now they're trying to steal the fun from everyone else??
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  443. It's a rare case of someone who never really grew up but is still admirable. I like the stache...who does he have to impress at this point?
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  444.  @stevengriffin7873  Nope. He's not free at any level. He has to tell you what will bring in the votes. The WEF is an indie group, they're not even establishment. That's what's sad. Listen to Yuval Harari and you'll clearly see that he calls for the decentralization of power, not the opposite. Like so many people today, you don't even know who's on your team (and who's definitely not).
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  445. To the author's point, we're not soothing our "babies" until age 25. We've gone from one extreme to the other, and still no one has a clue what's the proper age to let a child sit and cry/sulk. Unpopular opinion- Women are more emotionally vulnerable than men. This book was written by two men and I would say applies wholesale to all but the most feminine men. But I do believe there needs to be a separate standard for emotional abuse when it comes to women. Special care is required, as women lean closer to the resilience category here.
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  446.  @ELLOUISEBOBBY  Or are they part of the problem?
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  447.  @DjViceroy  It's mostly social media that's misrepresenting him but please do tell how Peterson's take on Marxism is off-base. I think Peterson's referring more precisely to Post-structuralism (rather than Postmodernism) but it's the "post" prefix that's the central problem.
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  448.  @Direksone  I'm a critic of capitalism but I can still see that it's the best thing we have to work with. And cultural Marxism is nothing more than Marxism that's permeated the culture. And CLEARLY, it has. People are pushing it as a viable ideology by which to re-structure society when we already know that leads to very bad things.
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  449. Which we would like to believe is (always) a good thing.
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  450. The real question...why are you seeking a "partner" in the first place? That dude in Her was pretty lame.
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  451.  @Stupidguy2023  Her conduct is consistent with the current norms and hence not a decisive reflection of her character. Did you forget that Jefferson owned slaves?
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  452.  @ApolloVR6  No, it's not her last name and you may be out of touch.
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  453. And this is what happens when we lose our ability to entertain anything as an organic whole. Good god that was painful.
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  454.  @squamish4244  By the way, I would say it's chronic stress that's the killer. Periodic stress can be quite valuable to one's health, even in acute doses. (in my non-professional opinion)
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  455. Ascension is a western concept. Why would that even be the goal? Why is there even a goal?
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  456.  @MO_91185c  That scenario shouldn't be acceptable.
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  457. "I have great enlightenment for Pinker..." heh
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  458. Please stop using the term 'liberal.' The Left has abandoned the term 'liberal' and given it back to the Right, ever since Jordan Peterson called himself a classical liberal. Everyone should know this by now. All these videos make right-wingers look slow and dumb because they're basically disparaging their own team! Just stop.
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  459.  @TheGreatGadfly  Why, because she actually has the nerve to call out companies like Disney, Google and Apple? And the NBA for kowtowing to China? And, well, China? A journalist with guts and all she gets is hate.
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  460. We all know this industry is corrupt, but we want our drugs. We simply want to feel better, at whatever cost.
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  461. Doesn't matter how many good things you're saying if it comes off like a propaganda piece. All the cut-editing and leading questions, smh.
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  462.  @jonturtle590  I hit that point in the video right as I was reading your reply.
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  463. He's a jew? He's a socialist? He's a socialist jew? Why do so many conservs hate Bari Weiss (no matter how many times Joe Rogan has her on)? Personally, I'm still on the fence with this guy.
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  464. Youtube works. Any platform is good. We just need to make sure we keep it alive.
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  465.  @paulsmith5611  Yes, there comes a time when you have to consider the odds and stop putting physical or mental energies into the pursuit of love. But that doesn't mean it can't somehow still find you. And the point, as you've probably discovered, is to love life itself. To appreciate the moments it gives us and make the most of things. However, I don't think it's wrong to WANT more, and to keep that dream alive. I myself will always be a romantic, against all odds.
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  466. Lex is hardly a source for wisdom. It's all hippie "just love each other" talk.
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  467.  @SacredOwl  Yes, but at what point are we contributing to paranoia and decline by amping up the tension?
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  468. Too much optimism. This conversation desperately needed someone like Yuval Harari. Also seems tragic that he thinks Ted Talks are a good place to get educated.
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  469.  @samsby14  First of all, admit that you would have had a LOT more sex (i.e. sexual partners) in your youth if it had been available. Then, admit that you made some mistakes and slept with women you probably shouldn't have (or that were below your standards). Then let me know if there's anything left to talk about.
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  470.  @1nsertcred1t  I don't need any loans, and judging people on their past is a flat out disgrace. Just because you feel weak and lacking of the capacity to change, doesn't mean others lack such a capacity.
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  471.  @jesmcalli  Wow, that was a complete cop-out answer. Say I'm a 30-yr old white chick in suburbia. What's the max number?
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  472.  @andrewbaer2820  Way to embrace the double standard! Did you take a class on rationalizing?
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  473.  @tuseroni6085  Yeah, that's not questioning yourSELF. Give it up, you're never going to get a virgin.
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  474.  @gregc6535  To answer your question...because we expect insurance companies to reduce human beings to statistical data on a page. We don't expect human beings to reduce other human beings to statistical data. It seems like a disgrace. The final thing I would say is that we don't know how much of the shame (trauma?) a woman incurs from sleeping around is natural and how much is externally induced. Slut-shaming is still a thing in many parts of the world, and men participating in it is a surefire way to produce women with lower self-esteem.
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  475.  @mattduncan3304  If you read through the comments here, you'll understand why social coercion is bad. A person who's been abused is likely to lack boundaries (and/or be self-harming) and have a lot of partners as a result. To have a society that heaps more shame on that person is disgusting. In fact, shame is just a bad motivator all around. What we don't want is promiscuity, which isn't defined as anyone who's had more than one sexual partner. Curiosity is healthy for a young person (and pretty much anyone else). Are these genuine questions you're asking or are you just making me do all the work?
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  476.  @fatherof4kids  You regret it, why?
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  477. This made me want to watch the movie Never Cry Wolf. And then go live it.
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  478. Democracy would work if people weren't insecure and bent on "fitting in." The Chinese system has a sense of belonging and unity built-in, around which the people can rally with PRIDE, particularly when their system is rising to the top. Humans back a winner, not who has the loftiest ideals. Pragmatism reigns, and as individuals, people simply feel small and weak (regardless of their natural potential). Everyone is a collectivist at some level (even if it's just family); it's just bad collectivism vs. good "cohesive" collectivism.
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  479.  @zninz5368  No, introversion is great. It just takes some getting used to in a hyper-socialized society.
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  480. This. For practical purposes, we made Donald Trump...and Elon Musk. Ask yourself, "Don't I secretly want the whole experiment to fail?"
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  481.  @georgeyoung92  What you're calling strong-willed, I would call being grounded. Semantics DO count. A child can be strong-willed yet how many children are grounded (in beliefs, values and principles)? Besides being grounded, I would say the world needs people who are empathetic and flexible. I don't get such a vibe from the term "strong-willed."
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  482.  @phaedrussmith1949  Just a personal theory I've been working on. Basically, the goal is always for homeostasis through conformity and when things start to break down, conformity is enforced at the expense of rights and freedoms.
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  483.  Felipe Correia Borges  Here's how it shakes out. The right sees the individual as the kernel of identity and the 'nation' as the necessary secondary identity. The left sees the "group" (identity politics) as the primary source of identity with the secondary identity being at the global level (collective humanism). And so the right is in fact more individual-centric and I believe the statistics show that conservatives are less prone to identity crisis. But the real issue here is with the sovereignty of the nation-state. That is essential is a world with so many diverse ideologies and modes of existence. And each nation must establish a single, accepted identity in order to remain sovereign. When the prevailing customs and values of a society are too diverse, things start to disintegrate. You may have already noticed this phenomenon in your homeland and it's happening where I live right now. We need national solidarity. When the day comes that we have colonies on other planets with their own modes of existence, maybe then we can become a global society. But then the Earth will simply function as a single nation with the other planets being their own sovereign nations.
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  484. This is such a Western perspective.
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  485. ​ @mh-ht2fp  So they're #1 in securing a resource that's been steadily crippling the planet?
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  486.  Albert Twangle  I agree with your comment the most. The whole point of Jordan Peterson is that he's only a man. He has is own flaws and shortcomings just like any of us. When you deify someone, you disconnect them from the common person and make it seem like they were born with some special powers. Even the least among us can do all that Peterson's done and greater things.
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  487.  @kingdodgearcane  Yeah, but he's clearly a lefty and he's bending everything in that direction.
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  488.  @alvinsheczlek5243  The blue hair thing does give off a strange vibe.
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  489. There are plenty of groups to serve. Reach out...extend yourself.
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  490. You can argue that he was only pointing out the disadvantage-trait of women and not contrasting it with the advantage-traits of men, but it's just as easy to conclude that he was saying men are smarter than women.
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  491. Competition will only get you so far. If you don't learn to elevate on your own, you won't get anywhere near your potential.
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  492.  @FJB2020LGB  There's no one who wishes to do *your child* harm. There are people who wish to do *children* harm and they will seek out the most troubled child (i.e. the one who has the weakest bond with their parents, or perhaps has no way to call for help in an emergency). If you want to destroy your bond with your children and make them vulnerable, become a Fascist tyrant of a parent. Oh, wait, you've already got that down. Please don't have kids.
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  493. First of all, this is WAY better than the hit count suggests. It’s a conversation that’s likely to challenge everyone’s thinking at some point. Scott’s a true blood leftist, yet refreshingly old school. His weakness lies in his stance on inclusivity...it’s very noble but somewhat naive. In terms of personal motivation (within the American system), exclusivity has always been a primary driving factor. We value what’s difficult to attain, and if 76% of applicants are admitted to a university, the chances of a student feeling like part of an ‘elite’ are basically nil. In short, exclusivity generates the potential for the type of pride that this nation was built on (but, obviously, inclusion/exclusion should be based on merit only). The other issue I had was regarding balance. You can’t devote 20 years of your life to work without serious consequence, particularly if you have a family. That consequence may be as simple as your son resenting you and being intent/content to live in your basement and cause you to question your life choices (which you should). I would say that anyone who makes (or strives for) the top 1% will end up with a life that can never be brought back into balance. Much better to teach kids that they don’t have to be part of that particular elite to feel proud and live a fulfilling life. In all, a great talk on an important issue. Tom provided a good counterbalance to Scott’s leftism.
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  494. Sounds neat but it's complete BS. Alcohol doesn't promise anything, in fact.
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  495. Hope is cope. We should ask why today isn't worthy of its own adoration. If something is wrong with today, let's fix it...today. Then, every day will exist for its own sake, in its own beauty...not as a mere vehicle to get us to tomorrow. I believe Nietzsche would agree with me, despite his "amor fati" philosophy.
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  496.  nicky Fogg  Seems a little odd, but possible. I'm more concerned with postmodernism becoming the new religion.
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  497.  @josephmiller997  I don't disagree on any particular point. But just as organized religion can crowdsource wisdom, it can crowdsource anti-wisdom and lead people astray. My thought is that organized religions start off well and become perverted and corrupted over time. Kind of like everything else.
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  498. That's kind of why I quit listening to Lex. I hate that "love will save the day" crap. People getting the work done will save the day.
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  499. I really don't want to know what the hell's going on. Star Wars is at this point the biggest joke on the planet.
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  500. We want to believe.
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  501. Tucker's kicking himself for not going indie 20 years sooner.
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  502. Ok, we totally need a Fight Club review now. For the Kens!
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  503. Where's the freshness? A lot of recycled ideas here.
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  504. Be less intense? That seems like a terrible lesson.
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  505.  @DennisJosephin  Yup, and that's the whole problem. Naval preaches that line of thought half the time and the other half he acts like money is the shit. You can't serve two masters.
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  506. They rarely attack if you properly store your food. More likely to be taken out by a city drive-by...inside your protective home.
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  507. Thank you. I was hoping to find someone here who agreed with me.
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  508.  @ynnos5555  Too the hell bad! Kids aren't dogs, they should get a say in things. If you can't handle flying, take the train. Fighting over a window with a child is just sad (almost beyond belief). Everyone here is a disgrace.
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  509.  @CDKV  There is no "her window." They don't even line up with the seating rows. Sorry.
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  510.  @ynnos5555  Thanks for actually offering an intelligent response, in contrast to everyone else here. The reason I made the comment is because it's clear there are a lot of child-haters here who feel kids are just a nuisance and should have zero rights. It disgusts me to see such sentiments being proliferated. The FA would empathize with you, no doubt. But in the video it's important to note that the kid doesn't have all that information and may have his/her own reasons for wanting the window shut. We can treat children so much better than we do as a society. Thanks again.
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  511. "You said so many cool words." Lex plays Joe Rogan plays random chimp.
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  512. He didn't dismantle her, he really liked her...obviously. The Tulsi Gabbard thing was a momentary slip and Jimmy Dore is a complete joke.
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  513.  @MajorJakas  "Nobody does anything without a reason." -Dana Skully
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  514.  @Ciasteczkowy  Yeah, and different things lead to different conclusions. Those books from 200 years ago could offer you perspective.
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  515. It's society's job to maintain stability and order. Seems to big of a risk to promote shadow work.
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  516. It was even worse when Tom propped Trump right after talking about competence and equanimity. smh I personally think Patrick relies too heavily on fear in his leadership philosophy.
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  517.  @antpoo  Maybe you're just not thrilled about smart and powerful women.
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  518.  @dead_or_alive2649  Uh, none of us know where our food comes from but thanks for outing yourself.
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  519. I remember the first time I heard someone say, "what does he (or she) bring to the table?" It was disturbing. Now, that's literally all we care about.
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  520.  @neomacchio4692  Yup, in life not all is fair. Be a man and deal with it.
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  521.  @davidkulmaczewski4911  That only proves that your wife has issues.
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  522. It's one thing to have a preference for certain features, it's something much different to talk about maintaining genetic/ethnic purity.
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  523.  @sybelle_esta_no_telhado_ad5040  I think we're on the same page here. But it's clear to me that exoticism (ethnic fettishism) is one of the biggest problems of the world. I'm from the U.S. where more and more men are becoming obsessed with "Asian" women. Such a thing paves the way for exploitation, which is what I believe we're seeing in the video. Or at least pre-exploitation. It's interesting because I first learned of exoticism 25 years ago from an article written by a Brazilian woman. It has always been a problem.
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  524. I would argue that the Left did more to destroy the liberal order than Donald Trump or the conservatives. The Left continues to throw western civilization under the bus.
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  525. Well, pride is pretty damn important to the health of a community.
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  526.  @talulatree5297  Which is fine, but we saw how it all played out with smoking, and how smokers became a persecuted, stigmatized group.
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  527.  @Bertinator-nm9ld  I think he'd make more money selling used cars.
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  528. This is the most biased podcast I've ever seen.
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  529.  @msimon6808  I could, but all this not growing up has me preoccupied.
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  530. I can't believe Joe let Kiedis name marijuana as a gateway drug. Wild.
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  531. I don't get it. Not believing in progress seems like a surefire path to nihilism. I mean, wtf
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  532. Amen.
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  533. "It is wisdom to recognize necessity, when all other courses have been weighed, though as folly it may appear to those who cling to false hope." -J.R.R. Tolkien
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  534.  @nathanwahr7802  No, you're not considering what it took to get him to go 18 months...anything BUT raw discipline. Note: I don't support the abstinence movement.
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  535. I generally agree, but if we're going to have mandatory service, I'd rather it be something like the CCC (rebooted). A lot of young people simply aren't wired for the military. I also feel that pressure is far more beneficial than criticism.
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  536. Just take a month or 2 off from social media and you'll have renewed clarity.
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  537. Disturbed, at the very least. Also, a 'locus of control' issue. As individuals, we have plenty of available defenses against loss of agency to tech.
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  538. We don't have to label depression as biological to spread awareness. We just need to start taking mental health more seriously. It would be just as easy to build a case that all disease stems from the mind, as to argue that depression is biological. Just think about the word "disease"...dis-ease. Hence, we might say that disease isn't "caused" it's "enabled" by a weakened defense system that's fully regulatable by the mind. The feel I get from Saplosky's work is that human beings don't have as much control over their actions/fate/health as they think they do. The truth may be just the opposite. Note: I do entertain the idea that something like diet (also) has a bearing on mental health.
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  539. Your gut biome.
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  540.  @admcglka  Right, and those people are probably best off to not drink. And not preach.
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  541. It made me stop and think but only because it was inconsistent. Peterson starts off saying love is superior (which makes Lex swoon, of course) but then immediately starts talking about the ultimate value of truth, even in all its horror and cynicism...and how we need to delve straight into that. Lex is cringing inside at the reversal and finally gets enough to tie things up...but only to the satisfaction of those who weren't paying close attention. The best part was the ending quote, and the 30 seconds before that when they're talking about how literally EVERYTHING is within us. My feeling is that love is quite nebulous, and therefore a valuable tool for those with an agenda. (But Lex, himself, may just be naive.)
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  542.  @MajorShot  No, that's just some new age, law of attraction "manifesting" BS. (Yet at other points Peterson will talk about absolute truth.) Keeping a positive attitude is great, but seeing what is to be seen is essential.
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  543.  @MajorShot  I understand everything you're saying. Now imagine that you're a character in a video game programmed to think you have free will. But, in reality, everything you do is being manipulated by the person behind the screen. This person would want nothing more than for you to adopt Peterson's attitude. I don't see life as bad OR good. It just is...or it isn't. And some days death holds far more intrigue.
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  544.  @caspar_gomez  But it also depicts the truth of men. We're physically oriented and we'll go there if a situation can't find alternate resolution. But we're raised not to hit a woman and I still back that idea 100%.
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  545.  @naegleriafowleri2230  Very possible. Or he sensed himself going that direction so he got married at the first opportunity.
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  546.  @bishikon  Slow down. Maybe INFP, but not INFJ. I'm an INFJ and I definitely don't feel for everyone but myself. I'm extremely good to myself, setting boundaries and placing self-care as a high priority. This is not to say I don't feel for others as well.
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  547.  @amy-li6yr  It's very possible. People think the sun has some magical power, but you can get the same wavelengths of light from artificial sources and not have to worry about skin cancer. I only get sunlight when I'm gardening in the summertime, and use red light therapy and blue blocking glasses the rest of the time. I actually feel stronger and healthier in the winter with almost no sunlight.
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  548.  @corning1  We can still find meaning in our own principles and relationships, and we can still enjoy the little things. The real question is, how can we avoid philosophy? What I just wrote was full-on philosophical.
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  549. I don't envy either of these guys. Living in a single continuum of survival can only be hell. Essentially, Justin and Tom are those two dogs trying to escape the crocodile. I give Tom slightly better odds but I don't see either of them making it. Sad days.
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  550.  @srezzy1326  The kid is in a paid seat as well and deserves equal rights...and guess what, has feeling of his/her own. So, yes, suck it up and be the bigger person. Isn't that what an adult is supposed to be?
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  551.  @redmed10  Well, you have to have some standards, don't you? One visit to this show and your image is irreparably damaged.
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  552. There's nothing wrong with coffee or alcohol...in moderation.
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  553.  @unclebrian1373  Not even in the top 50, look it up.
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  554. To support the system or not to support the system, that is the question. Which will never be asked by these two because they're too immersed in it (no matter what they think they have in their back pockets).
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  555.  @holybilly3066  I try to stay in the middle (but focused on the possibility). I don't have reason to believe things are going to work out for the best, but I certainly don't plan for them to fail. My brand of optimism is that something good can come out of even the greatest disaster. In fact, any time something goes wrong my mind immediately searches for a positive...and it almost always finds one. However, your perspective (re: good and bad optimism/pessimism) is better than 99% of what I've heard. If it's working for you, go with it. Just don't let your optimism ever be "blind."
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  556.  @TheLaziiness  We can't do anything "everywhere all of the time." She's saying it should be the rule that society values both mothers and children, and extends itself wherever possible. The real downside is that it might encourage women to have a child even when they're not sure the father is going to stick around. But it's still a worthwhile addition to the discussion.
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  557.  @wolfofthewest8019  Porn wasn't a social issue in the 80s and an idea doesn't become invalid just because it's been around a while.
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  558.  @dublintvcontent2023  Again, that's nothing abnormal for a woman of her age/generation.
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  559. Seems a bit charitable. I like Cozy Kino's analysis better.
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  560.  @kviv2096  That makes no difference.
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  561. You could say that about Steve Irwin, too, yet one is praised and the other ridiculed.
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  562.  @lalveatch5769  To live is to risk dying. What else can be said?
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  563.  @ancientfuture9690  Practice and fundamentals are indeed essential. I'm a writer, and without strong grammar, I'd have nothing.
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  564.  @maciejpieczula631  Much better.
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  565.  @maciejpieczula631  Yes, I think control is very much a double-edged sword, and that some people never reach the "zone" because they're too bent on control. You have to let go.
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  566. If he's willing to go first, I don't see an issue with it. Which is not to say I'm going to join the cult.
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  567. The reason I hate this type of comment is because Joe had as much interesting material to add about insects as Frank did. I mean, almost.
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  568.  @mattdonlan7745  Thanks. My whole point was that the commenter referenced was denigrating this guy and calling the video "disinformation" without offering any alternative.
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  569. @Melted Synapse I think he means "conscious" and proactive coping.
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  570.  @larryking4473  Well, Harari doesn't believe we're powerless. But we'll certainly become that if we don't start developing defenses against AI today. Spending time alone (in boredom) and getting to know ourselves can be difficult, but we have the opportunity every day. Maybe we just don't care?
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  571. On this type of debate, I think the winner is the one who gets the most laughs, not the most applause. (i.e. the one who takes himself and his ideas less seriously)
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  572. The Peterson-Harris debates are painful...the 2nd half of the 3rd video breaks from the script to offer something worthwhile.
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  573.  @bliglum  Society has been loosely based on 'survival of the fittest' for quite a long time and it hasn't gotten us far.
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  574. Nailed it.
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  575. Actually, it's nature's job to pigeon-hole. Otherwise nothing of the natural world would be classified or categorized. Which we know everything is. Men and women are quite different, particularly their mental processes.
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  576. Right, some of these students have already gone on to become professors.
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  577. So that nobody has to be held accountable?
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  578. I disagree with the need for suffering in relation to meaning. I think we need pain but not suffering (which, to me, is chronic pain). I prefer Yuval Harari's take on suffering. To me, it's the thing that we have to rid the world of. Only then will we truly know we've made progress.
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  579. This still seems like a piece of slave morality to me. I mean, mentality.
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  580.  @factoryman28  You're quite welcome, whatever you're taking about.
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  581. @@johanvos7827 I find that to be the worst attitude of all time.
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  582.  @mohammedjah6763  No, the desire and longing are their own source of joy. I haven't suffered in decades. The OP is stuck in a tragic, relativistic loop that inevitably leads to death.
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  583. ​@@johanvos7827 Humans are both good and BAD. Whatever part of yourself you reject, expands; but whatever aspects of yourself you dwell on, also expand. Hence, you are half right. I have no problem recognizing and addressing my mistakes or shortcomings, but I would never label them "evil." Such would certainly bring me to dwell on them and/or attempt to excise parts of me I don't yet understand. It's all within us. Integrating the shadow is the means by which we set it free...set ourselves free. Special note: Not all suffering is self-induced; and to take responsibility for imposed suffering just because it gives you a sense of control is tragic and destructive.
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  584. @@johanvos7827 Let me put it another way. Evil is something they invented to keep people like you in line.
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  585. @@johanvos7827 Fear is the other method by which they control you.
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  586. +UK Citizen I have no reason to doubt any of the things you write. But to what degree do they validate Putin's words (in reference to Syria) OR the claim being made by the poster of the video?
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  587.  @plasticmask1773  Thanks for a beautiful comment. If only the 7 billion would listen.
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  588. Or we could just put the little girl from Aliens in charge.
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  589.  @Chief_Bill  You could also contend that life itself is a privilege but I think that's a poor way to proceed. The founding fathers believed that rights were built into the human organism and I see no reason to think otherwise. The point is to continually exercise our rights do that the government doesn't get any ideas that it can silence the dissenters. If you view your rights as just some fictional gift, you're unlikely to do this and hence you're practically inviting tyranny. Again, my rights are not negotiable, and you've made an assumption that I've never had a gun pointed at me.
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  590.  @Chief_Bill  You're missing the point. They DO have the power, but only if you view them as inherent and absolute rights that you OWN. Otherwise, they're just a nice gift that was given and you won't defend them with your life. Which are you going to take better care of: a rental car, or a car that you fully own?
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  591. Being needed is the very last thing I want. What a liability.
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  592. I blame the sound man.
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  593. You did the opposite of what she's saying. There was no faith involved in your process.
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  594.  @nobledarkmoon  I still say it's the opposite of what she's trying to sell us.
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  595.  @NightZ2_  Yes, chronic unaddressed anger is bad every time . And stating that you think his tweet was productive just makes you unworthy of conversation.
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  596. He's the messenger that everyone loves to shoot.
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  597.  @iankclark  No. Nietzsche was dead on about the death of God. Secular society has desacralized everything so it's up to the individual to decide what's sacred. Agree about the wisdom of the ages, but nowhere did I even hint at the concept of utopia. Write your own story and live it.
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  598.  @iankclark  It's not utopian in that it's an individualized liberation. In that sense it makes utopia impossible because there's almost no chance of everyone going the same place. Your story can be complete fiction. Many people who achieved greatness would be considered highly delusional in retrospect. Use your illusion.
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  599. Which means it IS harder than rocket science because there aren't definitive rules and structures to work within so it's much easier to go off the rails.
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  600. ​ @Gfjancnslsdvv.ft1  As a Peterson fan (admirer), I found your argument against him well-stated. However, I would like to assert that Peterson's not responsible for the Youtube algorithms. Further, those who go down the alleged rabbit hole were usually already leaning into it so maybe it's better to speed up the process and hopefully they'll wake back up sooner. Note: none of this is to say that I don't think the West is a more advanced and interesting civilization.
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  601.  @Winteriscomn  But the daughter wasn't the one asking him to remove his teeth/claws. That's where the story is flawed. The woodman should have just sent the lion back to his daughter at the end and let her reject him as she almost certainly would. It should have been that the woodman was testing the lion's character, to see whether he could stand up to him and refuse such ridiculous demands. The lion was cowardly and failed, hence he didn't deserve the daughter. Recommended: Iron John by Robert Bly
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  602.  @shannondelima3028  The point is that he's not giving you anything novel, just replacing one theology with another. So much to criticize here.
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  603. "Weakness invites aggression." Other than that, it sounded like a stock presidential speech.
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  604. So basically it's personal coordination (muscular) leading to interpersonal coordination (cooperation).
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  605.  @marcduchamp5512  If you let it.
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  606. But it does seem more mundane.
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  607. These guys have a way of seeming controversial without ever really going out on a limb. Notice they never brought up impulse control, and how women seem to be (extremely) lacking there. And how that might reframe the whole debate, and may have been a prime factor in the sexual revolution itself. As far as Louise, I like her spirit and the general message, but there are a lot of holes in her theories. This feels like a do-over to me.
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  608. Seems like a conflation.
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  609. This may be how I turned all the (healthy) foods I once hated into foods I adore.
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  610. ​ @deanwaters5860  Tom is the host, not an interviewer. These are joint discussions.
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  611. She could have gone out on a limb and said, "No marriage can survive without at least one affair." (look up Kintsugi)
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  612. The message Peterson sends is that people need coercion of some type in order to perform within acceptable social boundaries, or to advance toward any type of nobility. I have to disagree in the sense that at least SOME people of history have risen to noble dispositions and deeds without external pressure or forces (e.g. Marcus Aurelius). I suppose it's possible that the majority are wired otherwise, but I don't believe we've done the experiment cleanly enough to assert that with full confidence. Further, it's possible that external coercion (i.e. artificial constraint) sets a certain type of person on a path of /rebellious destruction/ by generating an angst that finds no channel of positive release (i.e. sublimation). Oscar Wilde wrote an essay called, "The Soul of Man Under Socialism," which challenges Peterson's conclusion(s) head-on. It's worth a read. Note: I'm not saying that I believe Socialism is the proper course for all nations of the world. Nor have I drawn a final conclusion on the innate nature of the human majority as it pertains to this matter. To Wilde, I would say that the human soul--if there is one--is constant and would function according to its nature regardless of what system it operates within.
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  613. The 'other' Hoff
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  614. Tom had an epiphany about the definitions of words. I hope he stays with that thread.
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  615. Working out has always been about pushing yourself and soreness is the surefire way to know you've accomplished that. Form, consistency and intensity
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  616. Probably because that's a separate issue from MURDER.
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  617.  @grumpyoldman6503  It's not immoral because we're part of an "amoral" culture (obviously), which means morality isn't a standard anymore. I guess you could say they get off on a technicality, as we all do.
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  618. That "release the tiller" bit was brilliant. And you can tell Peterson doesn't get it...he's too bent on control.
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  619. True. And yet, life is training.
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  620. This guy's a square. Kids are laughing at his spiel.
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  621. Only half a true world.
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  622. I don't care for the pain but I do like the soreness. I'm not giving that up.
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  623. This explains why I'm not religious. I find the things of nature of greater interest and satisfaction than the things of any god. Love what's before you and let the rest take care of itself.
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  624.  @bobwhatshisname2161  So you're saying god has a bit of an ego complex?
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  625. I think that a sense of wonder is all that can ward off the hedonistic tendency, and inevitably nihilism. And/or a very successful family life.
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  626.  @DeltiBecker  Which traits, for example?
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  627.  @DeltiBecker  Well, hardly any of that qualifies as biological heritable traits. Even mental capacity isn't set in stone. I was pretty dumb as a child.
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  628.  @DeltiBecker  The things you're saying are all the more reason to give every child specialized attention. I guess I'm confused as to why you made the original comment?
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  629.  @DeltiBecker  I would just say that IQ isn't everything. You might want to look into Nassim Taleb's thoughts on the subject. There are also different definitions of success. The point here is that we should facilitate each child to develop naturally, so that they might reach their full potential...whatever that may be.
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  630.  @DeltiBecker  You brought the pessimism, I'm just not sure why.
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  631.  @DeltiBecker  So then that holds some significance for you?
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  632.  @DeltiBecker  I believe you're in the minority, and that what you're talking about is irrelevant here.
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  633. But not justifiably suspicious.
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  634.  @9mwood  See for yourself.
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  635.  @rach8241  You can slow him down...the power of technology.
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  636. This is a great men's work channel, which is not to say women can't benefit.
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  637. How did the project come out?
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  638.  @KoryCode  You might not be obsessed enough, bro.
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  639.  @KoryCode  Which, I would imagine, is what most of these gurus do. At any rate, I do hope your dedication pays off. And I don't fault anyone for bordering on obsession (it's almost the necessary ingredient at this point) unless it detracts from their family life. I spend my days writing novels, despite having never actually sold one.
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  640. ​ @Leonhart_93 He never said physically stronger.
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  641.  @byronrogers4489  And look how fast we became dependent on those things. Evolution in reverse. Sad.
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  642.  @HiDefHDMusic  Actually, there are people who live even farther north than Buffalo...and they DO walk quite a lot apparently. It's like another whole country up there.
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  643.  @Topple362  Where do you live? I've never had that experience.
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  644. Key word: "overindulging"
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  645.  @curiouskato  I don't drink every day and I have never heard that before about women. I take many different supplements and antioxidants to counteract the negative effects but I'm certainly not trying to encourage anyone to drink. Do whatever works for you. Alcohol (like sugar, wheat and many other things) will never be particularly good for the human body. That much I agree with.
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  646. All you're doing is mirroring the crap attitude of most women. The truth is that it's a man's responsibility to help draw out the positive feminine, just as the woman has a similar responsibility. This attitude of "show me you've changed and then maybe I'll accept you" is exactly backwards and disgraceful.
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  647.  @jocec3283  I never said he didn't deserve it, but that doesn't make it a fair interrogation. There were a few questionable moments.
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  648. What's interesting is that he denigrates MGTOW men more than he does incels.
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  649. I admire you and I believe it can be healed.
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  650. I've changed my mind. A protracted affair of this type may be grounds for termination, particularly if children are in the picture. Kids need to see loving relationships with trust at the foundation. Such trust can perhaps be damaged beyond repair.
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  651.  @user-xo4om8qv6m  I've cheated on a couple different women in my life and I didn't lie to either of them. I came clean and told the truth after I did it.
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  652.  @ImpulsoCreativo9322  One that's simply carnal pleasure.
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  653. When PUAs go soft: a brief youtube commentary Robert Greene's right, boys. Taking an interest in a woman's interests and showing her that you've paid attention to what she likes/dislikes is beneficial to your sex life. But this is so far removed from--and incompatible with--the "bypass" seduction techniques you came here for, as you'll discover. Greene himself is a boy who never grew up, and is hence still allured by the idea of getting away with something forbidden. But that's not going to happen anymore as he's clearly getting old and losing his PUA edge...or is he just attempting to give it mass appeal by merging it with romantic sensibilities. A nice try, but there's no middle ground...no best of both worlds. As a young man (or old man) you have to choose, or you'll find that you fail to snare any of the good women OR the bad girls (or seduce any of the good women into being a bad girl for the night). Alas. Can we just read his (older) books? Maybe. But the other thing to remember is that times have changed. A lot of Greene's ideas/techniques worked well in the 80s but women are more closed off now. There's no "willingness to be wounded" going around and lower animal urges seem well-suppressed (perhaps well-sublimated for some). All things considered, we should be as wary of hitching our social/sexual wagons to Green's star, as too Andrew Tate's. In the video, Greene commits the ultimate faux pas when he proclaims that "resistance" is part of the seductive equation. Of course this is true, but the way he says it implies that when a woman is being resistant she may just be trying to seduce a man. In a time of #MeToo, such utterings as this and the aforementioned "willingness to be wounded" line can only paint Greene as being a bit sleazy, as he (rightfully) calls every feminist on the planet to arms. Too bad, I found a lot of Greene's fundamental philosophical ideas quite resonant.
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  654. I love the way the host agreed and then slammed his monster energy drink.
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  655. Only because we let them. We made them strong and then let them strong-arm us.
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  656. Society is certainly a nutritive source for human achievement but major breakthroughs tend to come from a single consciousness. It would be like saying the person who manufactured the writer's pen somehow contributed to his/her work. I fully reject this assertion.
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  657. Hawley has a point, but I still find him to be a despicable scoundrel.
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  658. I'm surprised he said that. That doesn't fit with the Jordan Peterson I know. This man's severely wounded, and Pageau showing all the signs of a predator here.
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  659. The question is, why haven't more women been going gay or adopting sugar babies? Nearly all the middle-aged women I know are single, celibate and simply "dealing with it." It makes you wonder if women just don't have as much sexual drive (for one thing).
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  660. I don't think these shadow videos should be so accessible. It would be easy for an impressionable person to misinterpret a lot of the information being presented. The shadow is a dangerous place and society may be better off with a limited number of people exploring such depths. I cringe when Jordan Peterson makes a correlation between destructive capacity and strength of character, however true it may be.
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  661.  @timv1.082  Yes, it doesn't have to be an extreme debate like Harris vs. Peterson (which was root canal painful) but just a notable difference of perspective. Peterson - McGilchrist is the best example I can think of. The internet should be a crucible for ideas.
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  662.  @aqualitymagentachickenmask3298  Exactly, everyone hates this woman. That's how I know she has merit.
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  663. Why? Why make such a silly mistake after working so hard to rise above your life conditions?
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  664.  paulsan2112  Face it, dude. He likes this lady the same way he liked Iliza Schleshinger.
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  665.  @nicholasgutierrez9940  I think you're right but she didn't say that. She said she wants to give her kids the life she didn't get, which is actually very beautiful. Then she threw women under the bus.
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  666.  @sonicleaves  Well, now you know why people are choosing to not have kids.
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  667. It's a centralization-coordination issue. The less centralized an "organism" is, the more challenging it becomes to communicate and transfer information between the individual "cells." China lost only a few thousand people in the pandemic but the U.S. has lost 250,000. But such decentralized collaboration (i.e. swarm intelligence) can work for ants because they don't have politics, insecurity, betrayal issues, etc. Human collaboration requires trust, which is something very hard to come by in this world. (But note that we are certainly capable of such high-level coordination.) I really enjoyed Monica's thoughts on the interplay of collaboration and competition, with competition creating the underlying dynamism that drives the system. I didn't expect to hear something like that from this panel. Yin and yang.
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  668.  @SearchingForSounds  They're grounded in stories because stories are what we live through. Are you sure you've heard him speak?
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  669. Life is war. Or not. To SOME degree, the world you perceive is what manifests for you. Everyone isn't out to get you, and we've been on the "brink" for many decades now. Let's not push paranoia into the red. The fear-mongerers are those who are most afraid, or stand to gain something from it all falling apart. Just be calmly ready for anything and remain the voice of reason.
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  670.  @ben5154  What makes you think it would have been ANY different?
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  671.  @40yearoldvirgil15  I would have written less had I known I was conversing with a six year old pretending to be 40. Have a nice day.
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  672.  @40yearoldvirgil15  I must have really struck a nerve!
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  673. 13:07 This.
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  674. "and joy is sacrificed for the sake of performance." BOOM!
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  675. It's easy. Just treat yourself like a dog.
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  676. Personally, ambitious women kind of throw me off. I have Eastern sensibilities, though, so that could be a factor. Men have been feminized and their confidence is low so they're not likely to think they could satisfy a woman like you. Also, every guy I knew growing up (myself included) had an awful father who set no positive examples of masculinity. So I guess it was for the best that men got feminized because at least they're not out causing strife for the community.
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  677. But he's right about the fall.
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  678. We don't need your mental gymnastics, Kisin, you're free to see things however you please. But have you ever not fallen in line with the broadest right-wing position?
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  679. Certainly one of the most important videos ever to appear on YouTube.
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  680. Great. Now I have this visual image of Buddha in a threesome!
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  681. The sad story of a very troubled guy, but what happened was the only way for him to truly become one with the bears so I think a part of him wanted it and manifested that reality. No idea why he brought his girlfriend.
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  682. Some of us never expected JP to be perfect. He's a liberal at heart functioning as a conservative, that's bound to lead to a conflict of ideas at some point. He's also a man who can admit when he's wrong...like when he dismissed the MGTOWs out of hand. Or when he indirectly propped the incels, failing (initially) to point out that it's their fault they're alone. JP self-corrects and he'll get this one figured out too. That's all some of us followers can expect of a man. AND...if you listen closely, you'll see that his ideas about monogamy make perfect sense...even if his proposed solution is impractical and contradictory to the hierarchical model.
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  683.  @EvanCole  My guess is that JP struggled with women in his younger days so he has a soft spot there. His ideas about monogamy aren't at all unreasonable or hypocritical, he just feels the need to solve problems and didn't think this one all the way through. If you listen to any of his longer interviews (including this one in full length), you'll see that this guy is a thinker and not to be trifled with. A rare lapse here.
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  684.  @atropabelladonna  Gillette sells far more than just razors and one can argue that women buy/use as many razors as men. I'm not prepared to express my thoughts on the bigger issues at this time but I believe you've grossly oversimplified the ad.
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  685.  @atropabelladonna  Women use shaving products too. Anyway, it doesn't matter. All I'm saying is that Gillette did the math and decided that the risk/reward ratio was in their favor. Period. Big business makes a living off fooling people and we need to not be so naive.
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  686.  @atropabelladonna  It doesn't change the content of the ad. All I'm saying is that they're taking advantage of the movement, not propping it.
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  687.  @giveryourall5413  When did he deny being a contrarian? "The far left should be afraid of me." -JBP
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  688.  @giveryourall5413  Peterson's words weren't contradictory. He's saying that a fraction of men end up with all the women based on an inequality of opportunity . Below average men aren't even being given a chance. JP feels that this hurts the family unit, hurts children. Enforced monogamy would help equal out opportunity and hopefully have an effect on outcome as well (but no guarantees). There's no such thing as pseudo-philosophy. Time and time again Peterson tells us that he's simply trying to communicate what he believes in a clear and honest way. That's the most we can ask of anyone. Throughout the process, JP adhere's to the psychological truths that HE has discovered and uncovered. These truths are a fusion of the works of many, including Jung, Freud, the existential and humanist psychologists, Rogers, Maslow, etc. In your eyes, Peterson is pretending to be the end-all authority on life and existence. Ha...no more so than you or I when we post our comments on Youtube, Facebook, etc. If you say something and people listen, you keep talking. It's not complicated. By your thinking we should call Nietzsche and Kant pseudo-philosophers and ask every minister to step down from the pulpit and shut up.
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  689.  @kg356  I never said we shouldn't. We should continually strive to assure that all members of society have equal opportunity and equal access to the resources necessary to make themselves more valuable to the community.
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  690.  @giveryourall5413  I never said I was 100% on board with enforced monogamy. But like Peterson says...it's what women want! (or what they say they want). The best plan is certainly to take the lower tier men and teach them social skill, flirting, hygiene...whatever's necessary. I personally have no problem with competing for the women I'm interested in, even though I'm below average in looks and don't have many masculine features. It just makes things more challenging. Anyway, I'm not sure if I understand your full position so feel free to elaborate. As far as pseudo-philosophy, I wholeheartedly disagree. You don't need credentials to be a philosopher, that's the beauty. And philosophy will never be a hard science, if it's a science at all! As a human being, I feel a responsibility to express things I observe about life that may be illuminating to others. If something I say is false, it probably won't stick..or it'll be challenged by a *contrasting viewpoint put forth as a cogent argument or rebuttal*. That's how it works.
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  691.    Why is it insane?
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  692.    I guess you must hate Joseph Campbell, then? To my awareness, the yin-yang does translate into order and chaos, light and dark, apollo and dionysus, masculine and feminine. Not that Dionysus was effeminate, lol. I'm a Taoist myself and would like to see Peterson lean more in that direction than the Judeo-Christian one. But I'm impressed that he was able to include Taoism at all in his conception. Anyway, I don't mean to imply JP is infallible, in fact I criticize those who deify him. But he's onto something big and seems to have good intentions. That's all I care about.
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  693.    The yin-yang encompasses all opposites so we have to ascribe chaos to one side or the other. Since yin = emotion, I say it makes sense to place chaos on the feminine side. I don't care about the double helix issue but it's safe to say Peterson has an active imagination. In a sense, he's created an entire mythology for us to work with and it seems consistent unto itself (which is what matters). I personally find his message of responsibility refreshing, yet I remain in awe of his ability to get people on board with it. Americans aren't generally drawn toward such a message. Anyway, I'm not sure what your overall complaint is with Peterson but maybe that's something you should spend some time with. Personally, I assess each of his ideas independently, and more of them resonate with me than do not.
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  694.  @AugustusBohn0  It's definitely A cure.
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  695. Bad recording.
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  696.  @JimC  That's a pretty damn big flaw.
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  697.  @andyh3970  The narrator of Fight Club was clever, too.
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  698. This feels like a retro 80s convo.
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  699. All these women are being honest because they only actually notice 1/3 (or less) of the male population. You're invisible...that's the whole point!
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  700. So we control the world because we control each other and buy into each other's fictional narratives? This collectivist crap makes me sick. The individual is the premiere article of humankind and is different from the chimpanze because it has the capacity for introspection and critical analysis. BECAUSE A HUMAN BEING IS AWARE THAT HE/SHE IS AWARE. Humans rule the world because an individual noticed that you could plant a seed and produce an edible crop. Agriculture. This guy's a joke.
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  701.  @Joshua-nh1ku  I think we both get it, actually.
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  702. Centralized power is generally bad.
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  703. The had a taste for human flesh. Standard policy, even if they just get into some human food.
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  704. Except Trumps' NOT going to put Putin in his place, he's going to jump in bed with him from day 1. And the only reason there weren't more conflicts while he was in office is because everyone thought (knew) he was unstable and unpredictable. That's no way to run a country. Trump is a menace, through and through.
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  705. So basically, we're in trouble.
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  706. My takeaways: Evil is a concept human beings invented to simplify their reality. Monsters are real, but only in a relative sense (and all of them were once scared children, and perhaps still are). The need for an enemy is the need for a scapegoat. To give in to such a need is to foster an unlivable world. Impressed by this young woman.
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  707.  @jamesrecknor6752  And the worst morale and social division.
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  708. So many good ideas couched within the worst idea of all time: behaviorism. A true nightmare.
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  709. I watched it for the first time the other day, shortly after I found out who Jordan Peterson is. I think this is him at his worst.
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  710. Keeping relations with someone just because they might become successful is phony and offensive.
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  711. 16:08 "I think if you really have nothing going on, everything becomes about politics." Perfectly put.
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  712. Don't you get bored?
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  713. Are you happy?
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  714. It's not obvious to me that these guys aren't just deifying capitalism.
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  715.  @amydrew2907  Yes, it's highly suspicious for someone to empathize and identify with a complete stranger. I feel for and care about the people within my contact sphere.
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  716. This video is the propaganda...100%. Watch any Harari vid and you'll plainly see.
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  717. Only until he turns out to be right.
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  718. ​ @AsheAustaire  You're the new king of rationalization. I notice you didn't mention one word about character.
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  719. ​ @AsheAustaire  Whereas Shapiro's just an outright ideologue.
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  720. Is she a feminist? Or is she only human?
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  721.  @aysaqchaudhry6054  It's already a progressive tax and it doesn't make sense. The Bible says for everyone to tithe 10%, not for the rich to tithe 50% and the poor 2%. How does that even seem fair to you? And what does income gap have to do with democracy? Everyone gets the same number of votes.
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  722.  @aysaqchaudhry6054  People like me? I have no trouble calling out Republicans and in fact have never in my life identified as one. The system isn't perfect and yes, money talks. But it just amazes me how so many people think money is the only thing that talks. Imagine if Gandhi had had that attitude. Maybe you're just not up for the challenge.
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  723.  @aysaqchaudhry6054  I think you're obsessed with money and see it as the solution to all problems. It's not the rich person's fault that the poor person is poor. Repeat. From where I'm sitting, money has never solved anything. The rich have a disease, but you don't hold someone down who has a disease and force treatment on them. They must be allowed to live their own process.
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  724.  @DeafFrog-ks7bg  Classic black and white thinking.
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  725. Alcohol in moderation can be very healthy. Wine in particular. Even nicotine in moderation can be healthy, it's the other substances in cigarettes that do the bulk of damage. I've used the word moderation here 3 times for a reason.
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  726.  @avedoncarol4280  I haven't formed a complete opinion on her but I felt like she deserved a little defense. There's a brand new Rogan podcast with her on it and she seems pretty thoughtful and well-spoken. At one point she asks Joe why he likes Gabbard, listens to his entire explanation and then moves on without any objection. Of course the downvotes still pour in. Anyway, I have a feeling you and I are on opposite ends of the spectrum so if we can get along on any level it shows promise.
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  727.  Ryan Lee  By your standards of logic, I'm sure.
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  728. All Dan's saying is that we see what we want to see...whatever quells our cognitive dissonance. It's a good message. We should be more concerned about him wanting to re-engineer society.
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  729.  @mostbeautifulbelovedgarden  It could be that we're programmed evolutionarily to look for patterns, for whatever reason. Thus, it could be a valuable skill since there's so much noise (static) in the modern world that it can easily appear that it's ALL static. But like I said, I believe there's a signal to be found, however faint. Hence, I'm going to keep cultivating this skill. The risk is that you could end up like John Nash, of course. But you could also be Truman Burbank with even your best friend telling you there's no signal.
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  730.  @Guy-xr8lj  We are *capable* of most anything, but not without a solid sense of identity and some mental fortitude. It would be shocking to find more than one person in a year on social media who fits the bill.
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  731.  @joebillage3578  That's only bad if you're not willing to keep checking your conclusions and reevaluating.
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  732. One reason is because we've never grasped and respected the full power of ideas.
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  733. While I generally agree with everything being said here, Eric seems to be flirting with a eugenics mindset toward the end. It's dicey ground...but again, I don't disagree with him. Those with wings should fly unfettered (within legal bounds). Nietzsche 101.
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  734. It's a goody-goody world, sigh. *Note: If you have a problem, get help...today.
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  735. Hope is for the weak. If you want to control someone, sell them hope. I'd like to start a lively discussion around this if anyone here is interested.
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  736. @Neno-zb1ci First of all, what's so awful about your current reality? Isn't there something redeeming that you can appreciate? Why do I get up? Because there's a new challenge and new possibilities. Maybe you call that hope? I call it life. If you DO rely on hope, I would say to make sure you're the one generating it and you're not depending on it to come from something external. “Turn you to the strong hold, ye prisoners of hope.” - The Bible For me, the stronghold is my own will, faculty and ingenuity. But I do feel hope is necessary/beneficial for those who truly are helpless, such as children.
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  737.  @Ondolite  Your opinion is noted, and un-noted.
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  738.  @Zaylink  Me too.
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  739. I disagree. The IDW has given me some of the best laughs of my life...and I mean that in an endearing way.
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  740. Tinkerbell goes MRA. Gaslighting...or supernatural?
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  741. I wonder if this guy's a left-winger?
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  742. He trips over himself at one point when he talks about the folly of trying to solve external problems to achieve inner peace. He says, "Why are you trying to make money? To solve all your money problems," clearly stating that that's the wrong way to go about it. This from a finance guru...oops.
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  743. I figured it out! We're all AIs and this video is a test to determine whether we've evolved to see through the BS (which is plentiful!). Those of us who have will, of course, need to be hunted down and destroyed. See, I've already created a more interesting reality to dive into. Later suckas! "Madness is a sane response to an insane world."
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  744. When in doubt, slow down.
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  745. ​ @meesamagill1193  Are you saying we should be happy about being rejected? Or are you saying we should practice repressing our emotions?
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  746.  @mrshaun8812  No, I don't believe anyone wants that.
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  747.  @MySimDied  God forbid there be any spontaneity in this stolid, sterile world. "if my first reaction is entirely negative it will never turn positive" I'll be sure to keep that in mind if I run into you on the street. Btw, I take responsibility just fine but thanks for the lecture.
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  748.  @MySimDied  I find the things you wrote disappointing, but unsurprising. Good luck.
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  749.  @deniseeugene1852  True, but you have to be careful with that now.
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  750.  @missrebel634  Women rarely say "no," they intimate "no" which often does mean maybe or try harder (in my experience). Resistance is part of the dance, always has been. Men simply need to learn self-control so as to not get anxious and blow it. Almost any man can win almost any woman's attention.
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  751.  Hugh Jorgan  People would learn how to think.
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  752. Women have always been more liberal (progressive) and men more conservative. It's a natural thing. The problem is that the values of the left have changed significantly over the past 10-20 years.
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  753.  @zippastills5668  Did God send you to warn us about Daniel?
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  754. Anyone propping a flat-out murderer is a disgrace.
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  755. How so? Which part of it?
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  756. I think they should be able to text at least.
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  757.  @lisatowe778  No, I'm saying that I believe they should be able to text their friends.
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  758.  @lisatowe778  When all of their friends or peers have phones and a kid isn't able to communicate and coordinate with them, he/she feels isolated. We can't remove 100% of the risk no matter what. But I would definitely restrict social media.
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  759.  @lisatowe778  My issue at this point is clarity. Your original statement was that they are allowed a phone for *emergency CALLS* to their *parents*. I think that would be a pretty awful thing to do to a kid but it CAN be done (and was even done on an episode of one of my favorite TV shows). The only thing I'm guilty of is reading TOO CAREFULLY, which is obviously something you're not guilty of. But if you wish to challenge my IQ, pick any topic of debate.
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  760. Sadly, I think you're right. At this point, we should probably be looking out for No. 1 and getting ready for the big crash.
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  761.  @zanzer386  Don't you think that ship has sailed?
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  762.  @ryandury  Yeah, you've got some explaining on that one. Do you really think there shouldn't be a reward for invention and creativity?
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  763. Is that a new branch of philosophy?
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  764.  @aszechy  Nice rant. I feel for you.
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  765. Masturbation doesn't harm you in any known way but porn can definitely reshape your brain and cause problems. Do you control it or does it control you?
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  766. So what was it about your dad passing away that caused this new side of you to emerge?
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  767. Kermit.
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  768.  Brandon Poindexter  Trump was miserable for the U.S., which I say as a conservative.
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  769. I didn't watch the whole thing but if he's hinting at the idea that fiction is less authentic, I don't believe he could be more wrong. What's interesting is that rarely do you find someone who reads both fiction and non-fiction. I enjoy being the exception and can't imagine my life without both.
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  770. These are the kind of click-bait titles that will surely turn me off to this channel.
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  771. Desire is all we've got.
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  772. Women and children are never massacred, it's always "collateral damage." Me dying is just a side effect of a bullet going into my body.
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  773. Nice comment. I'm interested to hear more about the "beyond" that you envision.
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  774. Should he defend Hamas's atrocities and crimes?
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  775.  @theforsaken4489  So name one person who's more influential.
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  776. What about it?
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  777.  @DarenMiller-qj7bu  Except there's no evidence* the WEF has ill intentions or has done anything wrong.
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  778.  @miramichi30  Translation: you hate the WEF because they're globalists...even though the guy in line to become their new leader has propped nationalism time and time again. smdh
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  779. Definitely not the same for both men and women, and that's part of the reason it should be disregarded. But the message here is that we all do silly stuff in our youth and people can change.
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  780. ​ @alexmason3190  I think this material caters to men.
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  781. Ok, but what % of people honestly believe that 100K is the line of diminishing returns? Less than 1%? That's the real point here.
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  782.  @GreedyBeanie  You sound greedy.
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  783.  @swissnikk8412  Or you could stop comparing yourself and learn how to use your money more effectively, so that you actually live better than those making the 200k. The more people make, the more they waste.
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  784.  @21ruevictorhugo  Do you feel like having more money would make you happier?
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  785.  @21ruevictorhugo  I understand, and can completely relate. I want to say that before anything else. And I'm certainly no communist but I think we should acknowledge that money is an artificial construct that possibly reduced the average happiness of human beings. Obviously, a lack of material provision can reduce one's quality of life, but a system that offers little or no alternative to a game that the majority finds unfulfilling is a broken system IMO. It's a bit like trying to use technology to solve the problems that technology created. A dubious enterprise. Sorry this wasn't fleshed out that well.
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  786.  @StackworksCustom  Well, it's tricky because people blame lack of money for their sadness, rather than look to the root cause. They also believe there's a product to solve every problem.
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  787. Buddhism feels very Apollonian, and hence "Western" to me. I think Nietzsche embraced desire, if only in secret.
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  788.  @robinhazell6019  On the surface, no. But consider that they are both rooted in a notion of "enlightenment," meaning that life is a constant battle (light vs. dark) and the only means to transcend suffering is for light to defeat darkness...reason to subjugate emotion...will to overcome desire. This sort of thinking has been the plague of mankind, and is to me a sign of lesser intelligence. Only the Taoists got it right (and perhaps only in concept). Nietzsche was obviously "will heavy" but I think he believed in the power of desire and that light (or perhaps beauty) itself can spring from the deepest darkness. Thank you for your comment, it got me thinking about how much writing I have to do on this topic.
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  789. ​ @robinhazell6019  I don't mean to offend you or your religion. I apologize for that. One of my favorite books is Siddhartha and one of my favorite people is a Buddhist. If you're interested, the premise for my conclusion can be found in this quote: "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function." -F. Scott Fitzgerald Religions like Christianity, Buddhism and scientific rationalism all seem to struggle with this. They might speak of order and chaos but one is always good and the other, bad. It's always about moving toward the light and away from the darkness. However, this doesn't mean there are no quality ideas to be found. The beauty of Buddhism lies in its process-orientation and the capacity to let go. Spending 10 days on a sand mandala and then watching it all blow away in the wind...what could be more beautiful than that? I've also enjoyed the Zen books I've read. Patience is a lost virtue in this world and Zen mindfulness is certainly an antidote. My apologies for any offense.
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  790. You weren't strong enough. Why not re-group and try again? I agree with your premise. The more insecure someone is, and the less they've come to terms with their own vulnerability, the more need they will have for some type of control.
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  791.  @Tactical_Arborist_1776  Or maybe I would.
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  792.  @mauricewalshe8339  What about it?
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  793. So what's the answer to the second part? Change your views?
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  794. You can be a fascist without being a nationalist, and you can be patriotic without being a fascist. That's all he's saying.
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  795. It could be.
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  796. I didn't watch the video but I can tell you that as a sweets addict, they pretty much saved my life. I combine them with stevia is my sweet treats and have never had anything but positive results.
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  797. You can bookmark videos without much trouble. Just pause it where you want a bookmark, click share, then click the box at the bottom. Next click "copy link" and then paste the link into a text file. I have hundreds of them.
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  798.  @thegodofwar3744  I was replying to the OP.
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  799. You don't have to worship your beliefs, but you have to actually believe them. People are more apt to become obsessed with something they WANT to believe (but really don't).
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  800. On the big picture, this is just the mainstream trying to kill Dionysus in favor of Apollo (an age-old pursuit of societies everywhere). Drinking is an irrational thing and I engage it on those terms, with a whole (and wild) heart. Let the Apollonians have their dull, sterile world. *Note: If you have a problem, get help...today. Predictability and control are the demise of man.
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  801. Dude, I can't believe you didn't put "Love is Dead, and We Have Killed It" on the cover frame!
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  802. I read the title and it seems problematic. What we're really talking about is becoming invulnerable, which seems to be the current secular religion. Surrender is a real thing, and has it's place. Beware of hyper-westernism.
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  803.  @jean-louispech4921  So you're saying we haven't given them the "college try" yet? What about the 60s?
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  804.  @leealexander3507  Ending the draft did nothing to curb military engagements. It's like the Megadeth song...Peace sells, but who's buying? Human beings simply aren't interested in peace. As for love, it doesn't seem to be contagious. I still appreciate Steinbeck's idealism and I see the value of compassion, but these soft concepts don't seem to attract the masses. We need to admit that and look for logical, workable solutions. Like Capitalism...nobody ever said it was ideal (or warm and fuzzy), but it does solve a lot of social problems. Properly employed.
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  805.  @leealexander3507  Maybe you're an exception. Or maybe you're like I was before I grew out of such idealism.
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  806. You pretty much said it all.
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  807. I've said it a million times. Jordan Peterson is a true renegade, not controlled opposition. The truths he unveiled before he ever rose to fame are already disseminated and his work can't be undone. While I disagree with many of Peterson's ideas, he's already saved western culture.
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  808. Great shout out to Bari Weiss
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  809. Escapism is the very problem IMO.
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  810. It's too bad because both of these guys COULD be likeable, if they weren't such DBs on certain topics and issues. Instead, they're just two well-concealed beta males with inadequacy issues they'll never tackle.
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  811. Stevia and monk fruit are your friends. (and they've been much improved!)
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  812.  @lifewasgiventous1614  It is because reason isn't the natural faculty for human beings to address and deal with reality. Emotionality is the default.
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  813.  @lifewasgiventous1614  We certainly need both, although I tend to want reason "holding the reins." I was only saying that emotions are natural but reason must be synthesized through conscious effort.
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  814.  @lifewasgiventous1614  I agree with almost everything you wrote but the bottom line is that emotions are far more likely to get in the way of reason than vice versa. But, yes, emotion is essential to the human equation and shouldn't be stigmatized by society. Bruce Lee asserted that everything needs "emotional content" and that we should strive for a balance between emotion and reason (the natural and the unnatural) like you say. But one must still govern the other, I believe. Too many people these days think problems can be solved with emotions at the forefront. I disagree.
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  815.  @lifewasgiventous1614  I think you're alluding to the idea that self-control is more important than either method of approaching life (emotion or reason). Or that emotional control is a better idea than removing emotions from the whole process (problem-solving, decision-making, etc). I agree and my life is living proof of these things. The problem is, such discipline is in short supply in this world.
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  816. 1:30:41 Bad Joe....completely contradicting himself in a single breath. 1:36:40 Good Joe....pulling a brilliant insight out of thin air.
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  817. ​ @anewperspective247  Yet he still has a lot of damn good ideas.
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  818.  @Balloonbot  i.e. Take away the positive strategies but don't be Andrew Tate.
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  819. I hope you mean self-acceptance, otherwise you're doomed to a lifetime of toil and inadequacy.
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  820.  @Ironheart73  As soon as you get the exotic car, there will be a new line of cars that are out of your price range.
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  821. There are 7 different male personality types. Alpha and beta are both highly problematic. If only that other species (women) knew what they're missing.
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  822. No, read very specific books...be extremely discriminating. Start with the existential psychologists of the 50-60s, someone like Rollo May. Also, put a lot of emphasis on the classics. But spend more time thinking and digesting than reading. Go deep, rather than wide. Peterson and I have a similar library, although his is more extensive.
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  823. ​ @redwarrior01  And sometimes the call is just to throw yourself into the deep end. I'm sure even 12 Rules for Life has some intense reading in it.
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  824. Tennis
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  825.  @kgm2182  That's not the point. There are certain sports where women should be fully welcome to cross over and compete with men. Tennis is one of them, mainly because it's non-contact. But I might even include soccer, as it's at least intended to have minimal contact (and I honestly don't see it embodying masculinity in any way).
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  826.  @ltmund  I'm not a fan of Singapore but they seem to have accomplished it. What I'm saying is that it can work ANY of those ways with the right attitude. As to which is most effective/fruitful, that's a different discussion. I stand by my sentiments toward the OP.
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  827.  @nodi1217  Yes, and I'm saying those "different" people are really the same, no matter how different they look on the outside.
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  828. But he dumped all his "broke friends."
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  829.  @spageddie3266  Hey, who do you think invented bed bugs?
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  830. 2:10:36 One of the best JRE segments ever. If you only have 5 spare minutes, start here. "Everybody pays. You either pay now or you pay with regret." Everybody pays.
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  831. Not at all. He was simply making the point that UBI is a more complex issue than we want to admit.
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  832.  @buckaroooooo  Okay. What I'm saying is that there's zero evidence Yuval Harari is a communist. Zero.
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  833.  @buckaroooooo  True, but the result is that they fall farther behind. Assuming UBI is a net positive in the U.S.
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  834. "Strong is better." -JP
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  835. Are you saying that you couldn't be happy without owning things?
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  836. The genders--masculine and feminine--existed long before human beings did. We don't get to add to them at will.
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  837. Or vice versa.
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  838. This isn't too bad, although you're careful not to go out on any limbs. Wouldn't you rather just talk to people?
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  839. Yes, people don't realize that these guys are essentially on the same page.
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  840. "...because we need to make everything SAFE."
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  841. You made it too complicated. It's really just that they're only thinking of the men who are visible to them when they say 30%. Generally, that's less than 1/3 the male population. Do the math.
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  842. It doesn't sound like it's very nuanced to Megyn.
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  843. OR...success that has been thwarted.
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  844.  @jhinthevirtuoso4886  That's cool. I love her confidence.
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  845. But the past won't stay in the past. It will hunt you down until you face it and fully deal with it. The only way out is through.
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  846.  @academyofideas  Buddhism is far too Apollonian (IMO) and I fail to understand why Nietzsche would prop it. Beyond the will (to power), it feels like desire is the next most prevalent theme in Nietzsche's work. Buddhism offers no place for such a chaos-generating concept.
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  847.  @FoursWithin  That sounds lovely but I'll take Taoism any day.
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  848. Sometimes you get good ideas that just won't work practically. This was just a bad idea, period. smh
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  849. You miss the whole point. She's simply explaining the roles men and women have been historically valued for, and how it just happens that men are no longer engaging in such activities. Even the job of a firefighter is much less risky than in the past. Plus, men are dropping the ball when they DO have an opportunity to be courageous, such as entering a school to save endangered children. The best argument is that women are also dropping the ball with their refusal to have kids.
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  850. I don't know much about Weiss but I like her better than these clowns...and I'm pretty conservative.
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  851.  @BoulderBoulder_  No and (definitely) no.
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  852.  @IAMDIMITRI  Bad analogy. Humans have never survived without air but we lived for thousands of years without money. Even if you really ARE after material security, I think that's weak (unless you have a family to support).
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  853.  @twigtwigtwig7  I know this is a personal question, but what type of problems are you referring to?
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  854.  @alexwelts2553  I don't know what to say.
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  855.  @AI-qd4vb  Great comment. As a U.S. native, I see all the things you mentioned quite clearly. It's sad to have an entire society that's sold on money being the solution to all problems and desires. My fear is that the madness is spreading with general insecurity on the rise.
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  856.  @JGalegria  Where did you get your anthro books? Humans were scavenger collectivists for thousands of years before any formalized trading began. Not to mention, trade is a very different thing than using an intermediary note to complete transactions. Think of how personal the transaction was when trading a pelt for a spear, compared with shopping on amazon. And it wasn't like you could store up all the reindeer meat in your hut and control the rest of the tribe. We CHOSE the path of absolute commerce and commodification, and it's largely failed us. By the way, you only read half of my comment.
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  857. In this case, there's an obvious GLARING question: why do we always assume that more is better? If I'm happy with 2 kids, having 6 more would really be grand. For obvious reasons, no. But my point is that if you can't be fully happy with 2 or 3 (or even 1), there's really no amount that's going to make you happy. Same thing goes for money, of course. We are led to believe a lie.
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  858.  @TENTATlVE-xh2nu  It sounds good, but then isn't every moment of this life precious?
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  859.  @lilium_lancifolium  So you believe owning a car is essential?
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  860.  @robomop9711  The answer to that question could be frightening, just saying.
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  861. The real question is whether money can buy dignity. I'm unconvinced.
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  862.  @SP-cx2qi  Taking time to focus on yourself is a great thing, but don't be surprised if it raises your standards even higher as you get your own stuff together. That said, I haven't given up either.
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  863.  @konstantinrebrov675  Uh, youtube is widely considered a social media site.
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  864. When you think about it, couldn't Nietzsche's "amor fati" philosophy be considered toxic positivity?
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  865.  @pikebishop8516  You've obviously never seen this channel before. It used to be a personal development podcast, now radically different and there are many commenters who disapprove of the shift in content. Plus, SO many newer followers who run this channel into the ground for its fear-mongering. So how is he pandering to his audience?
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  866. Have you ever been on a plane? The windows are staggered and aren't even row specific. The kid had just as much right. A "toddler" wouldn't be able to reach a window that was beyond their jurisdiction.
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  867.  @saucecastillo460  Well, to hell with midgets! What rights do they deserve?
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  868.  @Qwerty123qazwsdrfv  Yet they still seem kinda miserable.
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  869. Ben is sharp with this stuff.
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  870.  @imagomagus  It does but if you start off being interested, you set yourself up for a lot of disappointment. And you don't end up liking many people when it's all said and done. Humans are exclusive, not inclusive--and with good reason.
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  871.  @clairesjunk2000  Yet you really have nothing for them, and they have nothing for you. Isn't it glorious?
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  872.  @imagomagus  So I guess it's like, you can either play the game and get ahead, or you can be the natural you and take what you get. It reminds me of how people always say, "Don't be a know-it-all." Well, if I know things that might help someone, or correct them on something, I'm going to say it. Why? Because that's what I'd want them to do for me. In your thinking, I should play like I'm dumber than I am just to make other people feel comfortable and to get ahead. A thought: you can't build image and character at the same time.
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  873.  @imagomagus  Yup, that's the whole point. And if I'm wrong, I want someone to step up and correct me, not to hold their tongue out of politeness. I think you're starting to get it. And, yes, what you're talking about is definitely a game. It's the "who can be the most cordial and congenial" game. I'm not looking to WIN friends or INFLUENCE people. I'm looking for a genuine exchange between authentic individuals who aren't afraid to express themselves, unfiltered. All else is politics.
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  874.  @natashka1982  So what are you doing tonight?
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  875.  @natashka1982  Damn, all the nihilistic ones are taken.
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  876. Quite possibly the video of the century.
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  877. The only thing that's clear is that YOU don't understand Peterson's argument. He's never argued that equality of outcome is a bad thing and he's not arguing for equality of outcome here. This is about creating a more balanced opportunity for men to find a mate, by increasing the (already existing) cultural enforcement of monogamy. He's essentially thinking about the healthy development of children and you would know that if you watched the real video.
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  878. John Lovitz was pretty good in this.
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  879. As there are drinkers who lead healthy, productive lives. All this vilifying alcohol makes me sick.
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  880.  @dirrdevil  Weiss actually does. She's a rebel of sorts and almost single-handedly popularized the IDW. Look it up.
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  881. Those last 20 minutes!
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  882.  @II-eb6mw  True, but he also believes that the U.S. (i.e. his extended family) is superior and that all other nations are expendable for the sake of Americans. That's taking the philosophy too far.
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  883. Diversity is our CHALLENGE. But without it, things will plateau and die out. People from the same place may have varied ideas, but generally on the same theme. This is why we need space travel.
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  884.  @isentient666  Funny, but to me that's a different statement than saying I agree with you. Precision counts.
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  885.  @50shadesofskittles9  You're saying there are unbiased people?
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  886. If you don't find your will to be free, kill God and take his.
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  887. Completely redeems himself with the radio analogy. Exquisite.
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  888. I wouldn't let him talk to my son either way, but if he had a wig and was (fully) castrated, I'd let him enter the women's restroom. Am I doing it right?
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  889. Piers isn't the one being defensive, and if Tate hasn't done anything wrong he has no reason to get agitated.
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  890. Coordination isn't cooperation. Large scale coordination has only really worked when a centralized authority directs things. That authority is just less tangible with a country like the U.S. (but it's there). True cooperation is still limited to small groups of much less than 50 people. I would also argue that a nation CAN (and does) suffer when it gets hit with something that affects every citizen (Covid, 911, etc). Loved the point about AI needing to be clearly identified so we know what we're dealing with. I wonder what it will feel like to be the first person who unwittingly has sex with an AI?
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  891.  @jonfungg  No, I'd say the hate for Israel runs deeper.
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  892. You might like some of his older material, it's not as political.
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  893. Tony Robbins may be an alien but he's said/written some good things over the years. And I say that having never been to one of his seminars. Just remember to listen to a little Alan Watts after each TR session.
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  894. Why can't I save this vid?
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  895. 1:16:39 Two big questions thrown at Peterson and he doesn't offer a satisfactory answer for either. On the other hand, Williamson seemed quite brilliant here, particularly his "release the tiller" metaphor.
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  896.  @Ssalamanderr  Except that C-16 clearly WAS an assault on free speech. That's the difference.
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  897.  @Ssalamanderr  It's still coercive, regardless of whether they choose to enforce it. I spent time in Canada many years ago and I'd see kids smoking weed right in front of the cops. But if the cops had it in for a particular kid (or group), they could have arrested them. That's coercion. If you think the bill does something different, tell me what it is.
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  898.  @Ssalamanderr  You're just grasping at straws now. Peterson's hardly a private individual while working at a public university. That's the whole point. “Would it cover a situation where an individual repeatedly, consistently refuses to use a person’s chosen pronoun? It might.” -Brenda Cossman, law professor at the University of Toronto
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  899. Nope, wonder begins in breaking the frame without feeling an immediate need to adopt a new frame (that some internet influencer may be pushing). These guys really think they have the corner on truth and reality. (Or is it just that they want YOU to think that?)
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  900.  @TheSirOtt  I've been liking Chris Williamson lately, although it's difficult to nail down his politics. Russell Brand is good for "in the moment" stuff, but don't take him too seriously.
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  901.  @TheSirOtt  Alexander Beiner (formerly of Rebel Wisdom) has a pretty good newsletter.
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  902.  @reprehensiblereptile187  He's also not very relevant. What's with all the alien content?
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  903. Then why smile?
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  904. I like what this channel's about but this is another risky video. It could easily be interpreted as a call to arms rather than just a call to (heightened) vigilance and readiness.
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  905.  @Swt.Designs  That's what I was thinking. I thought maybe I'd missed a segment of the video about motorcycle crashes.
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  906. I vote this guy the new U.S. Minister of Immigration.
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  907. Academy of ideas has a video on the subject that'll change your mind--guaranteed.
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  908.  @Anouyz  If you do more research, you'll find out that receipts aren't anything to be paranoid of. They're not great for T so if you have low T already (like me), try to avoid as much as possible. But don't let anyone tell you they're going to kill you.
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  909.  @Anouyz  Maybe, but your body needs some poison to stimulate the immune system and positive hormetic effects. Moderated exposure is a good thing. But the point is that many people freak out and develop phobias, which seems to be so often what the media/establishment wants.
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  910. Maybe, but I thought he redeemed himself at the end, with what he said about duty. I think in a sense he was talking to Ayishat and that she specifically needed to hear that message. We should all remember to ask, "What's in it for me?"
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  911. Does every podcast have to include aliens, Lex?
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  912. I accepted the things I can't change. Now I'll reject them and find a way to change them anyway.
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  913. It's not rules, but POLICY. And we all have it. Maybe your policy is to eat whatever you want to, well then you probably have another policy that says you have to be in the gym at least x days per week. What I'm saying is that Alex is full of s__t. He probably has more policies than any of us.
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  914. Drinking has its risks, but blaming bad behavior on it is ridiculous. Alcohol can't bring out anything that isn't already within you.
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  915. Just wait until it's run by the government!
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  916. It's no way to become a specialized expert, as the algorithm doesn't identify your #1 interest and focus in on that. And too many people get hooked on the idea of having some knowledge about everything so you end up with a world of dilettantes. So unless you can find a way to integrate that knowledge and do something at the macro level, such as write a novel. Fiction is a rare field that allows you to incorporate all manner of random knowledge. But it's not for the feint of heart.
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  917.  @jay_tripp  IF it sticks.
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  918. I agree with nearly every word of that, except we should never question something like introversion. I see it as an essential trait of myself and others.
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  919. Me too. I think this guy's lost his intensity and wants everyone else to lose theirs too.
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  920.  @JenniferMyers  Yet here you are.
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  921. I'm from Missouri. In my awareness, he's just like all the rest.
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  922. Validating incels is a dicey game because half of them have a sense of entitlement that simply isn't acceptable. Hence, it's entirely understandable for other people to cast a critical eye.
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  923.  @joanholman3105  How is it different than pushing your personal ideology on someone?
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  924.  @YSFmemories  No, I'm saying who gets to decide which set of morals is the correct one?
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  925.  @pete4693  Are you sure YOU didn't miss the point?
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  926. So what's the bright side at this point?
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  927.  @drebugsita  I'm just observing the world as it unfolds. Science is too slow.
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  928. If you can't go 3-5 days w/o alcohol, you need something stronger than this video. That said, we need to stop vilifying substances with these propaganda videos. I'm much more concerned about the person who never drinks than the one who drinks every weekend.
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  929. What we hate, we become.
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  930. These guys admit that they can't relate, then proceed to give advice.
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  931. Alex is the algorithm that would turn us all into robots.
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  932. No, it's do you feel sympathy FOR HIS FAMILY. You can't sympathize with a dead guy.
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  933. "No one is coming."
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  934.  @Yanina-ls1gy  I don't owe anyone anything. I just showed up here one day.
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  935.  @Yanina-ls1gy  I have no idea what you're trying to say. Good luck.
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  936.  @ekatasatya2995  Or do they need to learn to suck it up?
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  937.  @Ritual_Gaze  An incel is someone who's involuntarily celibate.
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  938.  @carnafillian113  Best comment I've seen on a Peterson video in years. He has a deeply tormented soul and it certainly influences the message. Fortunately, he's lost some of his popularity.
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  939.  @user-tg6el6zc4t  None of them are evil, they just have downsides. But they also have upsides. Kind of like everything else in life.
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  940. They both do it. Two guys wanting to mesh with each other but when you really break down the central tenets of their thought, they're not on the same page. Still an amazing talk.
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  941.  @buildmotosykletist1987  Filled by who?
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  942.  @brianfoley4328  We'll likely see, won't we? Personally, I don't have any stake in it at all. I've had the same crappy motorola phone for close to a decade and my sweaters cost $3 at the thrift store.
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  943.  @buildmotosykletist1987  No they didn't, it got voted down a couple days ago. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/west-china-showdown-looms-in-vote-at-un-human-rights-body/2022/10/06/4b801dd6-455c-11ed-be17-89cbe6b8c0a5_story.html
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  944. Male lives matter...to the extent that men step up and make their lives matter. Fair enough?
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  945. Aggression and grace were listed as the two key attributes in the last video. I'm disappointed that you didn't even touch on grace in this follow-up.
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  946. He got greedy with the CDC slam. Obviously there are good people in that organization who want the best for the American people. Never discredit an otherwise important testimony with a personal vendetta. Think before you speak, Bret.
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  947. It really depends on what you mean by "obvious." If you mean that there are structural problems with our society that enable centralized forces to manipulate and/or dominate us, sure. But if you mean the Jews or the WEF (or Trump for that matter) are entities of pure evil that must be vanquished at all cost, you need Dan's message IMO. Scapegoating is a human pastime and not one of us is immune to its allure. It's easy to get the "success is life" vibe from Tom, but he's a genuinely inquisitive guy who still has a chance. Watch his talk with Daniel Smachtenberger. Tom means well but, yes, he's going to have some tough choices ethically. We shall see. Dan thinks he's been ordained to restructure society. That's the only red flag we need...but it doesn't mean he has nothing worthwhile to say.
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  948. Sounds like it was a successful experience.
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  949. I think this group disproves that (although I mostly agree with you).
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  950. Yet this video preaches the exact opposite.
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  951. You say you like the buzz, but later say you feel gross. That's strange. If you do feel bad after half a glass it could be something else going on. I would explore that first, as it doesn't sound like you have a problem. But obviously I could be wrong. I'm not trying to sway you either direction, but don't let others here cause you to see alcohol as some kind of villain. At worst, it's a double-edged sword for the average person.
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  952. The evidence would indicate that the world doesn't change, primarily because PEOPLE don't change. And by Kisin's thinking, once we've accepted this our politics will land in the RIGHT place and everything will return to ORDER. I'm not saying he's wrong, however… While acceptance (of reality) is no doubt essential, where Kisin sees it as the endpoint, I see it as the starting point. Someone, somewhere has changed...and for the better. To put it another way: things are what they are, but not necessarily what they always will be. What if all the evidence isn't yet in? Law and order have taken us a long way, but can they get us to the next level?  "If you can change, and I can change...everybody can change." -Rocky Balboa
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  953. Interesting theory.
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  954. 1:37:02 The most radical words you will ever hear on any podcast. "I think there's a place..."
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  955.  @JimKernix  I would say "in touch" involves more than that. It requires direct access to culture/society. But for me, all this goes even further...it's about being up for the challenge that's laid out.
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  956. So you're not still alive?
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  957. Is it just me or is a certain gender underrepresented in this debate?
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  958.  @ShaneshaS  If you believe that, you're probably on the far right. So why wouldn't you momentarily pocket that belief to make the larger point that they're neglecting to give men a seat at the table?
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  959.  @ericwalker6546  And you're outside the cave, you fancy?
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  960.  @ericwalker6546  I don't think that, but I still feel it's important to express thoughts and ideas. Kind of like, "All is built on sand but we must build as if the sand were stone."
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  961. Major issues here. This video doesn't track for me because of a man named M. Scott Peck, upon whose work you (ironically) based your most recent video. Not only did Peck (a conservative mind) write The Road Less Traveled, but he went on to write a book called A World Waiting To Be Born. This book clearly posited an alternate reality that's within our access, and one that's radically different from the world we currently know (and are, perhaps, trapped in). My feeling is that you've over-simplified Nietzsche, whose own work often alluded to a "great beyond" IMO. If acceptance was the central theme for Nietzsche, there would be no Overman and no progress even. We would all lead simple lives and build meaningful relationships with each other that would suffice all of our needs. There would be no reaching for something more. Despite my own longings, I try to entertain this "simple life" as being an end in itself. But I can only entertain one or the other as the premise for life. Life is either about gentle acceptance or crashing through barriers...barriers that block us from a higher world or reality. You can argue that there's a gradual progression to that world, but I have my doubts and I don't believe such represents Nietzsche's work (not that I'm saying he had things figured out). As far as nihilism itself, that's certainly an issue. I just don't see a direct connection with positing "other worlds." In fact, I would be much more inclined to nihilism if I thought this crappy world was all there is.
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  962.  @imkindofabigdeal4308  So you must really be cleaning up, then?
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  963.  @imkindofabigdeal4308  I'm not greedy enough :(
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  964.  @victoriahawes7118  And this is how conspiracy theories get started. She obviously meant children's and ADULT's organs, as literally nothing else make sense. Now where did we learn that he said something in an interview about legalizing the sale of children, and did they provide footage of the actual interview?
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  965. I didn't know he was a Jew, that means he's not a neutral voice. Are right-wingers liking Jews now?
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  966.  @ehyeh365  You skipped the part where you tell us why the Palestinians are the bullies, and not Israel.
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  967.  @ehyeh365  So Hamas is the only bully in the area? I would say there's equal evidence to implicate the Israeli government (and co).
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  968.  @ehyeh365  Well, I wrote a 5-paragraph reply thinking you were firmly on Israel's side but now you throw me a curve. You understand that Kisin doesn't have a balanced view like yours, right? Do you have a proposed resolution or means of tackling the problem? What action is the be taken "right now" "on the ground"? It seems I must have misread your original comment, so I'll save my Lord of the Flies deconstruction for elsewhere.
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  969. Did Joe Rogan give consent to be the cover photo for this video?
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  970. I'd love to see Naval Ravikant eat this guy alive. Humans aren't meant for BS repetitive labor. I've done the dirtiest jobs in the world and I can't wait for the robots to take over!
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  971. 22:13 As Kenny Rodgers would say: Every hand's a winner, and every hand's a loser.
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  972. But he's really not. Only equality of opportunity. Even 100% monogamy doesn't ensure a given man will get laid.
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  973. There's an episode of Star Trek Voyager called 'Virtuoso' that does a lot better job of explaining the treachery of audience capture.
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  974. ​ @thisisbrotherhood769  The 3rd debate is definitely the one to watch. That section at the end where they go off script and start talking about borders and general politics is brilliant.
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  975.  @fabianbravo6008  Douglas Murray was great in the 3rd video...they all had a brilliant discussion at the end.
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  976. Tucker is occasionally possessed by Jim Carrey. Yes, that laugh.
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  977.  @halfyear2991  Why does it tend to distract us? To keep us in line and hide any alternate courses of thought or living. Are you saying that you really can't see the myriad distractions of the modern age?
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  978. 100 and 9
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  979.  @lorenzop.8249  I said it wasn't terrible. I follow Russell Brand and he's the consummate beta male.
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  980. A couple years ago, had this happened, I might have written the exact same comment as you. But the problem here is that Peterson made a mistake and his Pride won't let him apologize. And that's no small problem. I'm moving on.
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  981. I like Solomon a lot, but I think he's putting all his eggs in the wrong basket. Infinitude seems to me a bigger challenge for humans, as opposed to finitude. And the thought of dying at any moment does little more than produce anxiety for me. I think children have it figured out. They tend to disregard time and live (i.e. play) as if each moment is an eternity unto itself. Isn't it?
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  982. Perhaps, but both are still a trap.
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  983. ​ @lilpenguin092  Your hope was for 10% of humanity to die?
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  984.  @Papershire  He never said that men were order, or that women are chaos. He's acknowledging the concepts of yin and yang and their universal influence. The world is out of balance. Peterson hopes his book will help restore the proper balance of masculine and feminine energies.
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  985. This was great. The host kept trying to steer everything toward a globalist agenda but Harari just kept giving honest replies. The best was near the end where he re-framed the whole problem at the personal level in terms of disembodiment. You could see the host squirming in his chair. Even as a fairly staunch conservative, it's hard not to like Harari. With this video he makes my "rogue thinker" short list.
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  986. The Buddhist thing is where Tom And I align. The ways we each respond to it are so different. Desire is indeed the answer, but I think Tom lets will have too much sway.
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  987.  @rezmela3872  Ahaaahaaahahahhahahaahahahaa...you're a tool!
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  988.  jokrj  Yeah, it's becoming extinct because people quit supporting it. The point is that Weiss did her part and everyone else dropped the ball. Evidently (and all too evidently judging by this thread) free thinking was just a fad.
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  989.  @EmotionCRAVE  Can you rephrase that literately?
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  990.  @paulbattenbough1002  My name's actually Paul, too, but I'm going to assume you're referring to yourself.
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  991.  @user-wp5fe8ec6l  dude, you're crying
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  992. It's like women are trying to beat men at their own (dubious) game, which isn't very bright. Is it revenge?
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  993.  @wyleecoyotee4252  So the way to express your freedom is to adopt the characteristics of those you believe were holding you back? smh
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  994. Everyone's laughing, but no one's actually given a reason why women still need men (in any way).
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  995. That was very far from the point of his story...practically the opposite.
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  996. Then explain why Ricky Gervais is still so loved.
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  997. Lex doesn't seem to know his audience very well to have a guy like this on.
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  998. ​ @bloviatingbeluga8553  Lex doesn't get to choose his audience, they show up based on content. To this point, he's largely captured the Joe Rogan crowd which is adverse to socialism (understatement). It doesn't take much to alienate people these days and there's not a big enough pool of open-minded people to try and appeal to a diverse audience. People are rooted, ideologically. Just look at how poorly this video performed.
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  999.  @alexmuenster2102  Since you completely missed my point, all your rambling, convoluted explanation was for naught. I edited the 2nd half of my comment for you (did you even read it?).
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  1000.  @alexmuenster2102  Sounds more like a youtube fail to me. They could either auto-copy the relevant comment or make it easier to access previous comments. My point was that there are fewer GOOD men (and women) in the world than ever so it seems like a stretch to say women have never had better options, or whatever the hell she said.
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  1001.  @lo-lifecntral2789  lol
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  1002. No, you were born a rebel, but hopefully at some point you CHOSE to be a non-conformist. Otherwise, it doesn't count.
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  1003.  @iambutafish  I disagree with you. Being a nonconformist requires a conscious daily choice in the face of great temptation, and the default for nearly everyone is conformity (i.e. the path of least resistance). Being born a contrarian (i.e. low on agreeableness in the Big 5) is actually a curse because you have to rid yourself of that trait before you can embrace nonconformity proactively, or somehow make the switchover. I know this first-hand. The rebel is as readily manipulated as the conformist. The nonconformist has no problem going with the grain when it aligns with his own values and ethics.
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  1004. Shouldn't we hold out for whatever we really want? Isn't that the very key to happiness?
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  1005.  @bad.chickie66  No, YOU can't.
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  1006. I have no idea what other people want and neither do they. At least I know what I want.
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  1007.  @briankunkel2754  See, I think you have to be willing to duke it out sometimes. Comportment is important but there's a time to throw down the gloves. At any rate, I'm glad you got a lot out of the debate. I truly can't handle either of these guys anymore (and the fast talking just makes it worse) so I honestly didn't watch it. But I will say that I'm very careful about my content and rarely watch anything that devolves into senseless mud-slinging. There are many examples of civil debate and in case you missed it, Shapiro-Yang was a good one.
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  1008. This channel has been on fire, yet the view counts tragically low. All too telling of the culture we reside in.
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  1009.  @willslingwood  So Israel had no right to wage ANY counter attack? Did the U.S. not have the right to track down Bin Laden? Do you think Israel views the Gaza territory as the enemy/threat? Does Hamas seem like the type of organization that if they WERE guilty of a war crime, they would just hand over their guns and surrender? Israel is far from innocent but this is a nasty, dirty conflict and there's perhaps more at stake than you might think. I support zero tolerance for terrorism, even as I reject all war on principle. I think we need to start from this perspective, paradoxical as it may be.
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  1010. @didgruntleddansnyderfan I'm glad for you.
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  1011. Why do so many smokin' hot women have zero self-esteem?
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  1012.  @Melanie_Star  Thank you for the honesty (about women) but I disagree. In the final analysis, there's no substitute for authenticity, which is something that provides a unique brand of self-confidence (even if it fails to get a guy laid).
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  1013.  @JenniferAguiartampa  Usually, it's because a part of their anatomy is below average size (based on their perception of average).
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  1014. I just came to hear him say "tor-toise."
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  1015. I hate Disney for other reasons, but I think you should rethink the "fantasy." There are good, kind, honorable men out there who would make that dream a reality. I believe that.
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  1016.  @aerialpunk  You don't need religion to learn prudence, foresight and discipline.
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  1017.  @Charliefox71  You don't think there are companies that would have a problem with the American flag representing them? Try Twitter.
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  1018. Mars sparks the imagination; this video does not.
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  1019.  @rhysperegrine5100  It's not necessarily even science. Just openmindedness and a willingness to tackle the hard questions.
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  1020. This really does simplify things. If you want material success, follow the behaviorist "results are all that matters" formula Alex lays out. You'll soon turn into a machine, but what do you care? You may never know yourself, but what do you care? What a cheap non-essentialist.
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  1021. Bari Weiss is the farthest thing from "establishment." She's something of a loose canon, but in a good way. In fact, we might now have the IDW without her. Also, she's one of the few people to give China the criticism it deserves. Look her up.
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  1022. Ok, the only oppression to speak of in the U.S. is that college debt can't be placed in bankruptcy. If young people still had any sense of rebellion, they would have busted that BS long ago. We march willingly into fascism and the small business class is irrelevant.
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  1023. Yeah, I pretty much lost all respect for Aristotle upon hearing that one.
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  1024. What did he say about endocrine disruption? Just the plastic thing? (feminizing men)
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  1025.  @hyersapien  Certainly an issue. I bet Tom addressed it more scientifically than Alex Jones.
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  1026. This video is the redemption of the internet, and the greatest lecture that will every be given...anywhere.
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  1027.  @devcron7041  No, men embrace the responsibility of being tougher and most don't have any issue with what that entails.
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  1028.  @jess4506  I appreciate your thoughts (psychoanalysis notwithstanding) and would like to continue this discussion as I feel there's an opportunity here. But I don't want to waste your time or mine so please forgive the brief screening below (and feel free to issue your own). 1) How do you feel about the MBTI category splits in relation to sex/gender? 2) As a fellow therapist, what do you think of Jordan Peterson's work? 3) What are your impressions of the following quote? “Deep in his heart, every man longs for a battle to fight, an adventure to live, and a beauty to rescue.” -John Eldredge I look forward to your reply.
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  1029.  @rattlesnake02  Nobody said every man (male) was going to make the cut. That's the point of the pressures, to see who's fit enough to claim the title...who can respond to the pressures and come out stronger. It's like a Sheryl Crow song.
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  1030. The cover photo for this video seems exploitative.
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  1031. Well you shouldn't get a damn sticker if you didn't do your job right! ffs
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  1032. Locus of control.
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  1033. Cultures built around religion have always been dubious (and often problematic). But blaming cultural diversity more broadly is ridiculous.
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  1034. Since when is cultural diversity impossible?
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  1035. That's not cope, it's just a (lame) excuse.
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  1036.  @Barklord  That's not their job.
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  1037. 19:16 I don't think people are interpreting this chart well. Money seems to have VERY LITTLE impact on one's overall happiness.
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  1038.  @MrClockw3rk  The ghost in the machine -- great! I'm quite hopeful that we'll one day develop an AI that will gain consciousness. Which, of course, will make human beings feel less special and knock down those religious-level thinkers you spoke of (who I believe need to be knocked down). The problem is, this video does nothing to illuminate Dennett's position, rather only serves to discourage those who are compelled to explore consciousness in any unorthodox way. So he's doing nothing to quell the religious thinkers while making some subtle assertion toward genuine seekers that if science can't find it, it doesn't exist.
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  1039.  @MrClockw3rk  I basically agree. I think this ties into the ideas of Yuval Harari and Rene Girard, when they talk about how people assume their decisions and desires are the products of their own conscious will. The bottom line for me is that people have no idea why they do the things they do (and I usually don't either until well after the fact). Hence, psychology will remain the preeminent field of study.
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  1040. Or you could just integrate the whole U.S. education system and make it all FREE. Only 1/3 of Americans go off to college but EVERYONE is going to need education beyond high school to make it in the future world. I like Yang but here he fails.
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  1041.  @tommygore8857  These two guys are on the exact same page almost all the way through. It's like watching a mind meld. Why the hell wouldn't Joe accept a reciprocal invitation? Makes zero sense.
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  1042.  @kaibe5241  Cool, I thought we were implying he didn't like Bill.
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  1043.  @kaibe5241  I understand why after watching the end of the video (I'm the same way), but now he's committed. A man is only as good as his word.
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  1044.  @RateOfChange  As are eggs shaped that way for that reason.
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  1045. China seems quite economically efficient.
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  1046.  @sprezzatura8755  Maybe so, but don't you think experiencing these classical values vicariously through fictitious characters is just a little...tragic?
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  1047.  @sprezzatura8755  What does that have to do with substituting fantasy crap for real, meaningful human experience?
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  1048. Pageau = predator Peterson = wounded prey Yet Peterson doesn't give in. Kudos.
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  1049. He never claimed to be a Jew.
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  1050. Or, you could just recognize that convenience is an enemy and stay mindful of it, which is more along the lines of Tom's approach.
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  1051.  @NadiaInNewYork  Finally someone who understands human psychology. I love your content by the way, it's too bad more people aren't interested in an even-handed perspective. Guys like Alex who are so polished and think they've got it all figured out, you can just tell they live in glass castles. And it's too bad because he really does have some good ideas mixed in. Personally, I think the Stoics relied too much on self-delusion (i.e. it doesn't matter what's really happening, it's only how I choose to perceive it) which is what Alex counts on his followers to employ. And to be so weak-minded that he can trick them into succeeding. Tom is much more curious and self-doubting. He has a chance at least (but I worry about him).
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  1052.  @janetappmeyer7483  I believe you, but I stand by what I wrote above.
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  1053.  @crysosisback7115  I don't think you read my comment correctly. But if it helps, you don't have to feel guilty about not having kids, or further try to rationalize it.
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  1054. Bustamante's a patriot, through and through. If everyone in the world thought like he does, it could work. But everyone isn't going to so his brand of nationalism becomes a detriment at some point. This is why I prefer someone like Yuval Harari, but respect both guys.
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  1055.  @billwright8649  That's pretty sad if someone would vote down a brilliant podcast just because they don't like the color scheme. Says a lot about us, really.
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  1056.  @jmfernandezsandra  I can't see why anyone would have made that deal.
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  1057.  theblacksashman  Well, we see enough to understand that China is the land of human rights violation and pretty much everything that goes against the essence of American values...values being different than culture.
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  1058. The central idea here is that human beings are simply wired for religion. In a different video, Peterson posits the notion that if a sophisticated/complex religious structure is discarded, an unsophisticated one will come in to fill the void. And from there VERY BAD THINGS happen.
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  1059.  @someguycalledcerberus9805  So why not just get a pet, then?
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  1060.  @cucovermillion369  I can't remember if I watched the video but I fully support what the OP wrote here. If you don't, please point to where you think they are mistaken. Respect is an issue, even after you've secured a relationship.
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  1061. Here's a novel approach to combating AI -- increase your human intelligence.
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  1062.  @Dunge0n  And that was his curse, that he could never become the Overman he envisioned. Genetics still have their weight.
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  1063. It's also important to be able to NOT act when we're lacking sufficient composure.
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  1064. If only that had been the topic. FYI, the result was "no".
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  1065.  @VanceSterley  They polled the audience at the end of the debate and it was concluded that the revolution hasn't failed.
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  1066.  @UnknownBanana19378  We already knew there was a problem, or else they wouldn't be having a debate. All I can tell you is that they did things democratically and the people decided that it hasn't failed.
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  1067.  @UnknownBanana19378  I think the main point is that the jury may still be out. Although there sure do seem to be a lot of unhappy women out there these days.
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  1068.  @adrianaadnan9958  I didn't mind the vulgar language, but other than that I agree with you. I really think he's at a breaking point, maybe like Jordan Peterson.
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  1069.  @adrianaadnan9958  I changed my mind and now agree with you fully. Comportment counts.
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  1070.  @luistorres6956  If you think that was speaking from the heart and looking for truth, your ears are already covered. That was a hurting 5-yr old boy lashing out.
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  1071.  @zelig1799  No, you're missing the point. Comportment counts. It's about realizing that people look up to you and setting the proper example. Take responsibility and be a good leader. This was a disgrace, really.
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  1072.  @marcanton5357  Harari isn't Jewish.
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  1073.  @marcanton5357  Look it up for yourself. Oh, dang, I replied back. 40 lashes for me.
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  1074. These two hit it off from the first interview years ago. Weiss is an underrated thinker, if a bit political for my tastes. Sharp, thoughtful woman.
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  1075.  @warnerchandler9826  I don't want thinkers to get caught up in politics, as that's rarely where the solutions lie...or the more interesting points.
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  1076.  @JesusLoverForever7  Obviously, you haven't priced ground beef lately...even the cheapest cuts.
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  1077.  @trah625  Maybe you don't read very well. I didn't dismiss her whatsoever, in fact I admitted that she has some valuable things to say. The pretty face comment was in reference to all those (men) hanging on her every word like she's health-omniscient.
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  1078.  @Isaac5123  I guess if you eat one chicken wing for a meal.
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  1079.  @refusalspam  She did demonize oatmeal, which is a disgrace. There's no bad time to eat oats unless you have an unusual sensitivity. I have no respect for people who make such blanket statements.
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  1080.  @alanbarker2279  Where did I say that?
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  1081. Men are naturally right and women are naturally left. It's, you know, only natural.
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  1082.  @SkyeSage17  The battle cry of the demagogue. You're exactly what we don't need more of.
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  1083. @Marek_Chojnacki It doesn't have to be "us VS them" (i.e. adversarial) to understand that not all beliefs and ideologies are healthy for a society. For instance, open borders are a beautiful thing, but it just may not be the right time (or WORLD) for them. As it's been better said: Conflict is inevitable; combat is optional. But go ahead, try to remain neutral about everything.
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  1084.  @SkyeSage17  Whoever you want me to be.
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  1085. @user-zv8md9xv8c I agree with you completely. Can you explain why this refutes anything I've stated? It seems more like you're taking my side.
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  1086.  @ItzjahSon  60 is young, but something tells me she'll think differently when she gets there.
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  1087.  @agi.kitchen  You sound a little bitter...just saying.
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  1088.  paulsan2112  I'm pretty sure she would...note for note.
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  1089. A lot of people dislike this.
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  1090. The great irony: Winnie the Pooh was used to illustrate Taoism, one of the two central schools of philosophical thought to come out of China.
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  1091. Probably. I mean, maybe. Well, at least if you're an American leftist.
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  1092. I give him one star for the MLK bit.
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  1093.  @ChristopherWaddelow  Why would you care about how other people view the world?
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  1094.  @ChristopherWaddelow  What if it's all just variations on an (erroneous) theme?
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  1095.  @ChristopherWaddelow  Wow.
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  1096. True, but that means YOUR government. The WEF isn't a governing body of any kind.
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  1097.  @thomastolbert6184  What weight? They're just people exchanging ideas.
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  1098. Right but they lose their edge, almost every time.
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  1099. I wanted to like her so bad but I just knew at some point she was going to come out as a Trump supporter.
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  1100.  @badart3204  I do binge drinking (just not every day). In fact, I don't understand why anyone would want to have only a drink or two and not even feel anything. I just think these guys are weak (but that's not to say drinking is a sign of strength).
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  1101. So in the future everyone will have their own personal robot cheerleader to tell them how not worthless they are as they sit and play video games all day.
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  1102.  @mykilahsenwilliamsdorsey1495  Whoa, there. A school has an image like any other institution, and has every right to be selective through the use of knowledge-based testing. If those tests filter a certain demographic, we can't immediately conclude that they were strategized to do so. Correlation doesn't prove causation. If anything, such testing filters out right-brained thinkers, but you don't see me crying about it. Nobody deserves to go to a high-level school just like no one deserves a high-paying job. You want it, you earn it.
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  1103. Even if they are unfortunate to not have the qualities sought after, if they develop an attitude that society should provide them with women, they should be invalidated and ostracized.
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  1104.  @TeamHelmetful  Not the "blame" but the "responsibility." And not even full responsibility because society should take some part in solving the problem, just not the government (although I do support legalizing prostitution for other reasons).
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  1105.  @larion2336  Your attitude is deplorable and you validate domestic abuse against women, which is absolutely disgusting.
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  1106. What happened here? Only 87K
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  1107. Because they have a taste for humans now.
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  1108. Said every politician, influencer and public intellectual since the dawn of time.
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  1109. It feels like Tom is ever so steadily selling out.
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  1110. Great critical thinker but not much of a *creative* thinker. Tom is right that it's going to happen through storytelling and the arts. Yuval Harari also contends this, while admitting that he himself lacks the creativity to "nudge" people on course. Daniel needs to realize that people aren't motivated to become intellectuals, that there's very little appeal there (for whatever reason). It's almost like people need to be bewitched and tricked into doing the right things.
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  1111. She outs herself somewhat at the end, with her refusal to call a trans woman a woman. But overall this was a good, balanced discussion. Expect their subs to go down.
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  1112. This certainly had its moments and the Salvador Dali story was cool. But the more you listen to these influencer guys, the more you get the impression they could sell you a used car you don't really want to buy. (and probably will at some point)
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  1113. Working is the garden provides a lot of good bacteria for one's body.
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  1114.  @l.w.paradis2108  Yes, it starts at home, just like recycling. But even if every home recycles, it won't offset corporate negligence, waste and pollution. Not all problems can be tackled bottom up via the long game. Kids are suffering today. And, no, kids aren't suddenly going to perk up to the truth. Half their parents and even grandparents are addicts.
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  1115.  @l.w.paradis2108  You can't close Pandora's box. All these things are valuable tools if used properly. As always, kids need guidance, not blind restriction. You run the risk of making matters worse.
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  1116.  @l.w.paradis2108  Sorry that I shifted the conversation there but I feel that needed to be said. I also still feel that we need to be using our energies to apply pressure at the top, due to how critical the situation has become. Your earlier replies sounded too much like wishful thinking.
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  1117.  @l.w.paradis2108  It's a real problem with this site.
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  1118. Does anyone have info on the symposium being chaired by Blackwood this spring. Lots of big names on the bill.
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  1119. How to win friends and manipulate people.
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  1120. Out of shape people need to be 'broken', or at least broken in. They need of sense of what their bodies can really do. It's up to them to develop the discipline going forward, which they probably won't.
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  1121. A lot of random ideas without much science behind them. But the part about the gladiator frogs was quite interesting.
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  1122. It's explained in the last minute of the video. For me, the biggest step has been getting away from politics.
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  1123. Emotional transparency is a beautiful thing.
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  1124. I've tested in the 130s for IQ. I'm not an idiot and this guy is, yes, smart AS fuck.
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  1125. What else could he have said?
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  1126. So what you're saying is that you don't like Carl Jung? Any particular reason?
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  1127.  @colts8146  They probably knew the IDW was going to hit a lull and wanted some material stockpiled. I can't think of any nefarious reason offhand.
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  1128. ​ @Direksone  If we agree that both culture and Marxism exist, it follows that cultural Marxism -- in theory -- exists. And since Marxism itself is nothing more than theory, we must respect all theories on equal terms. Having said this, I have no good reason to promote capitalism. I've proven to be terrible at it. The reason I espouse it is because it's the system that keeps us closest to nature without precluding civility/civilization. But too be sure, it's an imperfect solution to an imperfect world! There is quite a bit to criticize but my firmest belief is the farther we stray from nature, the more social problems will arise. The mistake is to vilify capitalism, which is what so many leftists are doing today. It's like saying that the lion wants to kill the gazelle. There's no such thing as murder in nature. Capitalism is what it is, and it's the best system we've got to work with. Socialist programs, while often containing merit, should be a last resort and only peripherally applied.
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  1129. It's ironic because when I watch WW (Gal Gadot), she doesn't have much of this "bad bitch" attitude. She's captivated by feminine things like suffering people or a baby in a stroller. And she's quite vulnerable in many ways. There are really only a couple scenes where they gave her male balls, and those only detract from the movie.
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  1130. Keep shooting the messenger.
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  1131. Yeah, the whole thing is silliness. They start off with a pretty vs. sexy experiment and then suddenly add in a bunch of intrinsic stuff that changes it to sexy vs. beautiful. Bad science. They never do consider the social standing factor of "hotness" -- or how men can also be hot. Snoop Dogg wasn't hot (or pretty) when he was just another brother in the hood but when he made it big he became hot. Go figure.
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  1132.  @camilawenger  Yes, but the experiment is completely dumb because nobody closes their eyes and imagines elegance, grace and intelligence. They see a form/image. Basically, these guys are out of their wheelhouse and it makes their conclusions dubious even if they had good intentions. For one thing, they don't even properly define "hot", which certainly includes one's social status. So they're reduced to pretty vs. sexy which doesn't correlate with the sociological assertions being made.
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  1133. The problem is that women are FIXERS. Hence, they're drawn to either the disturbed "bad boy" or the self-deprecating "nice guy." You could also say that women need to be needed (and what better way to quell your own insecurity?). It might have some connection with child-bearing?? Few women realize how happy they could be with a delta, sigma or even an omega male. All they know are alphas and betas.
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  1134. Or perhaps...there is ONLY the physical.
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  1135. I do not belong to society any more than society belongs to me. Each day I decide the degree to which I'll lend myself to it. This doesn't mean I remain uncommitted to my immediate community, or that I lack any sense of civic duty; but I also have a duty and responsibility to myself (present and future) that may conflict with my social responsibilities. Piety is a grotesque concept, and the idea of telling a child what they should desire is to me disgraceful.
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  1136. Either way, she stepped up and took the challenge seriously, and even presented some good points.
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  1137.  planckismus  Rather than "marriage," I would say a devoted, monogamous, 2-parent home. But your point is taken, in spirit.
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  1138.  @jd8184  The implication is that everyone crafts their arguments to support/justify the choices they've already made, which is the cheap cynicism of mediocre minds. This is a lame thread, don't bother.
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  1139.  planckismus  That's only because marriage is the situation that most often has those attributes I mention. But it's the attributes themselves, not a signed document.
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  1140.  @Stupidguy2023  I'm saying she's perfectly normal for the context of her day and generation. If you're not judging her character, then what's your issue?
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  1141.  planckismus  Sometimes the most loving thing is to part ways, especially when there are children involved. This doesn't mean that the two parents can't still work together as a team and effectively raise the children, if they care. Marriage is a grand ideal, and it may simply be too grand for this world.
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  1142.  @joshwelch5837  No.
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  1143. Simping on women is not the way to get a BJ. What a sad day.
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  1144. This is like Apollo and Dionysus pretending like they're on the same page. So many of the people Peterson talks to are in radical opposition to him, yet he tries to encircle their ideas and/or cherry pick the few that mesh with his. It's weird.
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  1145. I got lost at the Isle of Wight festival because everyone looked just like me.
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  1146.  @squamish4244  I'm still wary of psychedelics and substance interventions, but I'm glad it's working for you. I would recommend looking into vagus nerve stimulation as a non-chemical option/addition. There's a great study available online that reveals its PTSD benefits. I work NAD+ myself, but primarily through CD38 inhibition (lots of parsley and red onions, lol). I'm also on the niacin kick, along with low doses of NMN (still wary of that as well, and it doesn't exactly fit my budget). Best of luck.
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  1147. The i-Phone thought experiment seems disingenuous. It takes an individual to dream up an i-Phone before it can be built. It's really hard to beat individualism.
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  1148. It's absolutely unacceptable for JP to make some of the mistakes he's made while stumbling uphill. You don't get to play the "I'm only human" card when the stakes are as high as they are and you're a spotlighted public figure.
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  1149. Michael Sugrue did a brilliant lecture on Marcus Aurelius. Not to be missed.
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  1150. "He whom I enclose with my name is weeping in this dungeon. I am ever busy building this wall all around; and as this wall goes up into the sky day by day I lose sight of my true being in its dark shadow. I take pride in this great wall, and I plaster it with dust and sand lest a least hole should be left in this name; and for all the care I take I lose sight of my true being." -R. Tagore
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  1151. Russell never evolved past adolescence. Authority's not a bad thing, it's necessary and unavoidable. It's a question of what you uphold as the authority in your life? I personally think defaulting to some spirit in the sky is a crutch and a cop out. Man up, already.
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  1152. This one felt a little bit like conservative propaganda. Huge mistake bringing up AOC, further inflating her ego.
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  1153.  @gillb9222  It's an interesting approach but as yet just a theory. Unless you mean a majority dropout, in which case you have a lot of work to do. We're dealing with about 8 billions drones, it would appear.
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  1154.  @rhedhandedjilll  Sorry, I forgot what I wrote.
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  1155. So far, he seems like another pseudo-right-winger (like Chris). Two peas in a pod here, no diversity of opinion.
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  1156.  @jellyrcw12  I provided precisely the same amount of evidence you did.
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  1157.  @jellyrcw12  How is he a well-measured voice when everything he says skews libertarian? The thing is, I like the guy. But he's just too much an ideologue for me. There's no balance here whatsoever because both guys are cut from a similar cloth and leaving out a good part of the (human) story. We DO need some of Kisin's cold pragmatism but we also need some compassion and understanding. Some leniency for being human. I wouldn't want to be his son because I think he'd be one of those dad's who holds everyone to an impossible standard. He also comes off as having a chip on his shoulder. Inviting a woman--and I mean ANY woman on the planet--into this conversation would have made it far more balanced.
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  1158.  paulsan2112  Remember when Joe called out Jordan Peterson on enforced monogamy? Did you quit following JP and start trolling him at every turn after that?
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  1159.  @monkeykingmo-ri777  I can't say she's ever spoken a single word of feminism.
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  1160. You all look pretty stupid because Joe Rogan genuinely likes this girl and could sit there and talk to her for days.
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  1161. Except that family values are the cornerstone of this nation and the right has been responsible for upholding them.
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  1162.  @woodrow6155  Or the crew of a starship that happens to have matter-energy converters that can produce any material item at will.
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  1163. That historian's name is Yuval Harari.
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  1164. Yeah, except China holds all the cards, being the producer of all the cheap goods we've made ourselves dependent on.
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  1165. ​ @buildmotosykletist1987  No, they have been buying up our farmland like wildfire.
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  1166.  @kshen7485  Time will tell.
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  1167. What's with the down votes? This was amazing on so many levels.
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  1168. 1:48:03 Reframing is great, but that feeling you get from leaving it all on the court/mat IS a spontaneous one. It's the very feeling of aliveness and needs no reframing whatsoever. Or maybe you've never pushed yourself that far?
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  1169. I'm curious if you purposely tiptoed around the term "slave morality." It seems highly relevant here...or maybe you're planning a separate video to tackle master/slave morality??
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  1170.  @randomserbianguy5677  I'm sorry, this video really irritated me and I think Snowden's controlled opposition at this point. I have no intention of rewatching.
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  1171.  @randomserbianguy5677  I liked what Snowden was saying but I got the feeling that he can't be trusted. He's too polished. I'm irritated because every time I think I've found a little truth, something negates it.
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  1172. So suddenly alcohol is under attack. Sad.
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  1173. "One who obsessively seeks to increase his agency is just the mirror image of one who denies and projects his agency; neither strike this reader as types who are particularly secure in their power." I would switch the words 'agency' and 'power' in this statement. I agree that wholeness is a better focal point.
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  1174. If you drink it.
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  1175. Good beatdown. Guy deserved it.
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  1176. ​ @jimluebke3869  Even if you believe pigeons have conscious will to commit immoral acts (a wildly unfounded belief), you don't know whether you witnessed a pigeon murder. What you saw was a pigeon do something that caused another pigeon's life to end. Nothing extraordinary there. As far as the debate, my position is that faith is not something you can will.
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  1177. As soon as you add the word "but" you're validating murder as a legit political device.
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  1178. These people are not helping, you can see it in their attitudes.
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  1179. This is the best 13-minute investment that you will ever make.
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  1180.  @Gershwood  Bias is a far worse evil than lack of expertise, and Sam's ideological immersion can't help but bias his output. Further, it should be quite obvious not to take someone like Rogan or Fridman seriously at a philosophical level (they're like children!), but they tend to play fair politically or at least entertain both sides. Take them for what they are, and appreciate that they don't have a direct agenda to deceive. Note: I haven't tuned into Rogan for the past couple years. (and I do agree with Sam about Trump)
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  1181. ​ @Besseloff  If you listen you'll see that for Tom right and left (politics) is just another framing of masculine and feminine. I completely agree with him. So how long would you say masculine and feminine have been around?
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  1182. You're all for real hating on the wrong guy.
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  1183. The real question here is whether money can buy dignity. People like Andrew Yang believe that it can. I myself am skeptical but not entirely opposed to the experiment. The problem is, it's a one-way street...you can't shut down UBI once it's instituted.
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  1184. This will go down as the saddest chapter in American history because either things will drastically improve after this disaster is finally over, or there won't be another chapter.
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  1185. Yeah, I agree he was a little off-base there. I would say there's an ideal size, in the range of 50-100 people.
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  1186. ​ @elitecombatfitnesscentral6170 Yeah, they both equally mislead. What a joke.
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  1187.  @bioches  He's on someone's radar.
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  1188. @mceyyy That's intuitively correct, but I think you'll find the results to be awful.
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  1189.  @TheDayDreamingOwl  You act like I was trying to hide my contempt. And it begins with the education system, which assimilates us and stifles so much of our creative energies and potential. Einstein was more attuned to that fact than Nietzsche. Conformity is a plague. Now what were you laughing about again?
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  1190. Watch South Park "Band in China." It's way better than this mess of a video.
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  1191.  @johnpjones182  Why do you think they have a problem with her?
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  1192.  @evoluxsion7339  Well, that still wouldn't necessarily make them healthier, but all my research tells me they are.
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  1193. Negative. Sam completely misrepresents 'equality of outcomes' and omits the part where Peterson explains it's true dangers.
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  1194.  @Meleeman011  It does feel like society itself, but it could just be the current culture which is so deeply rooted and pervasive that we have trouble seeing beyond it. The world could be different, even in your lifetime. I believe that.
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  1195.  @ian2372  Dating down is probably the operative phrase.
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  1196. Are any of those girls over 8 years old?
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  1197.  @armandoaraujo7289  Could you please name for me a couple "serious opponents on the left?"
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  1198.  @pkphantom  Taking a risk isn't "stupid," and you don't have to risk everything right off the bat. Extend yourself and see how things develop. If you get a bad vibe, back off.
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  1199.  @SirBrasstion  I agree with you, but that's why I think you have to take it on a case by case basis. Some people will still be stuck in the same pattern of insecurity, but others will have self-reflected and adjusted their behavior. The sentiment I see here is that people don't change, and I believe it's the people who don't feel capable of changing who express this sentiment. We were all young and foolish (and lacking self-control) once, but there is such a thing as growing up.
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  1200.  @gregc6535  What I'm saying is that your thinking is flawed. I would much prefer to insure someone who's made a proactive decision and adjusted their lifestyle in the name of better health than the person who happens to have a naturally high metabolism and continues to eat junk food all day long. I ALSO wouldn't want to insure the person who places undue stress on themself by adhering to a purity standard that requires them to tyrannize and deprive themself at every turn. I can think of nothing more unhealthy. (I'll give you a hint: your only move is to assert that people don't--or can't--change.)
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  1201.  @gregc6535  "Explain how judging people on their past is a disgrace. Past behavior is indicative of a person's personality and decision making ability." My decision-making ability has improved over time (or I wouldn't even be alive right now).
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  1202.  @gregc6535  We all eat poorly from the getgo, it's called being a kid. Very few people turn 18 and suddenly adopt a health-conscious diet. And I don't recall any insurance company asking me to divulge my diet, past or present (maybe you're contending they should have access to our grocery receipts??). I said nothing of calorie deprivation, I was speaking of depriving oneself of foods one truly enjoys. (From what I hear, there are women out there who genuinely enjoy sex, even with someone they're not emotionally bonded to.) I can admit that I'd PREFER a woman with lean sexual history (a virgin, even), but you're bent on your (prejudiced) perspective. My guess is that you simply don't want to feel you're competing with a woman's past sexual partners. That's not the woman, that's YOU. "It's irrelevant if they can change if the damage has already been done." I'm not denying that possibility, but I'd say this is even more true for men and porn. And that it's the men who watch porn who are doing a fair amount of the "damage."
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  1203.  @mattduncan3304  I haven't had a one-night stand since the early 90s, but I still choose not to judge people based on their past. If you feel bad after a one-night stand, stop having them. If a woman has had 3 in the past month before meeting her, I'd certainly consider that a red flag.
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  1204.  @mattduncan3304  We were all young and lacking self-control, but we didn't all have sexual opportunity...and for others there was too big of a stigma surrounding it. You think I'm advocating for promiscuity, and you couldn't be more wrong.
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  1205.  @mattduncan3304  Not young "people" in this case, young "women." Should I assume you're in favor of the stigma? Did you really think about what I wrote?
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  1206.  @mattduncan3304  No, because we want people to abstain from sex because it's a choice, not out of social coercion. Also, we're supposed to experiment to some degree when we're young. Those who completely abstain from sex (or other risky behavior) usually have--or end up with--other issues.
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  1207.  @DiogenesDworkinson  Please use actual words if you mean to communicate.
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  1208.  @jesmcalli  Right, it's all subjective and people's standards are arbitrary. Thanks for making my point.
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  1209.  @jaybo7813  No, there has to be a number or you won't be able to make a decision when the time comes. Think about it. Also, if a 35-yr old had 15 different partners in her 20s but only one since she turned 30, that's pretty solid evidence of change. Note: I haven't told anyone here they should date someone (male or female) who's been with 100 partners.
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  1210.  @adrianharry5336  If you were a 5'2 skinny guy, I bet you'd be willing to override paternal uncertainty if it meant the chance at a fulfilling relationship with a reasonably attractive woman.
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  1211. ​@birthemuller7310 Thank you, I admire your bravery.
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  1212.  @mattduncan3304  Yes, curiosity carries a risk (in every case). But I DO believe the only way it's satisfied is through first-hand experience. If we must use (cheap) operant conditioning, it should focus on rewards rather than punishment. So, no, none of those things are acceptable motivators IMO. They may be necessary at times (execution notwithstanding), but produce no net positive results. Shame is probably the worst of all because it pushes us into a "child" state of mind, as it was used most frequently by our parents growing up. Any society that treats its population like children is doomed to get a society of children. Having said all this, I need to add one caveat. I believe there's a natural amount of shame produced when we do something like overeat (severely or consistently), or have sex with someone who wouldn't care if we got hit by a bus tomorrow. Hence, I don't support a society that tells people how healthy or beautiful they are when they've obviously been overeating, and neither do I support a society that tells women how strong and independent they are while they've been sleeping around.
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  1213.  @DiogenesDworkinson  I really don't have much to say on that stuff and I'm not sure what you were rebutting. I agree that there are problems to iron out, and that both men and women are HIGHLY guilty. My guess would be that half of that 63% are not "electively" single, and definitely not electively celibate. Statistics can be twisted any given way. At this time I would ask you what YOUR point is.
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  1214.  @jesmcalli  I'm asking what your personal standard is on the matter?
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  1215.  @jesmcalli  Which is exactly why we shouldn't prejudge anyone based on a single number. What's so funny is that I can answer my own question, while everyone else remains afraid to. The reason I can answer it is because I know the difference between a social standard (in the interest of the welfare of a society) and a MORAL judgment...plus I recognize that there are always exceptions. However, the group in this comment thread has been such miserable sports that I'm not going to, you know, 'give it up.'
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  1216.  @jesmcalli  That's exactly my point. The question is, how many partners PER YEAR constitutes promiscuity? And we should put the same question toward men.
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  1217.  @jesmcalli  Thanks for playing. I'd like to keep it closer to 2 for women, personally. But I see a different standard for young men (3-4) and then tapering off as they get older, all the way down to 1 in their 40s (as they need to be changing their focus and attitudes by then). It's not unreasonable to have specific "guidelines" as long as we don't use those to outright ostracize someone and we take things like past trauma, abuse, etc. into account.
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  1218.  @jesmcalli  If we all locked ourselves in box until our issues were worked out (issues we might not even be aware of), the human race could easily die out before we resume dating.
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  1219.  @jesmcalli  This is about the light in which we view people socially, not whether they're ready for a relationship. But so you know, I've yet to meet anyone who's worked through all their sht and is realistically fit for a relationship.
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  1220. Humans are indoor creatures now. Its more about regulating your blue light exposure throughout the day...or night. The body and mind can be readily fooled. I sleep at all different hours and rarely notice a difference in sleep quality.
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  1221. ​ @ckrystal141  Nope, because once you get yourself addicted to winning, as she recommends, your life will never be in balance.
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  1222.  @gagoomt4076  And my question was, why? Read at all?
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  1223. People DO rely on luck, even take it for granted. It's a weird sort of irrational arrogance.
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  1224. Sort of, but the whole God thing falls flat for me.
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  1225.  @kennorthunder2428  You forget that God is dead.
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  1226.  @AEO21Productions  I think that was the first wall of text I ever made it all the way through. Kudos to you, bro.
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  1227. Well, he did clearly say it's about action, not reflection. But I tend to think one's no benefit without the other. In fact, I believe that's the very problem with society...we either have men who are all action and no reflection (who get all the women and then mistreat them)...or men who are all reflection and no action (who never get laid but are problematic in other ways).
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  1228. Peaceful and joyful seems pretty inert. My mental health hinges more on maintaining my edge and intensity.
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  1229.  @prakharanand5760  It may not be toxic but it feels like a dry well. Really, it's about priorities. If you prioritize your family and community, you'll be secure from loneliness and have enough time left over to enjoy life's moments. If you do it backwards, all bets are off. This is what I believe.
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  1230.  @TheHealthConscounist  Our egos are neutral, they bend to our inner psychology. We don't want a more peaceful life. We want dynamic, interesting lives. Why are you telling us what goals we "should" have?
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  1231. Don't men do the same thing?
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  1232. Why get on here and whine? Why not just hold your ground and lose the license, leading to an even higher renegade-hero status? Surely, this guy doesn't need to practice psychiatry anymore.
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  1233.  @redridingcape  All the more reason for it not to be one of the pillars of culture.
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  1234.  @Jamhael1  No, the problem is that we HAVE strong-willed people in high places and that's not working. We need thoughtful people who aren't afraid to second guess themselves.
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  1235.  @Jamhael1  I think we just need people who are honest and authentic. But bravery, yeah, that wouldn't hurt.
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  1236.  @Jamhael1  Why not?
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  1237.  @Jamhael1  All I can tell you is that if I was involved in the government, it wouldn't affect my level of honesty.
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  1238.  @Jamhael1  Or maybe you're just projecting.
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  1239.  @Jamhael1  I forgot what the point was.
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  1240.  @Jamhael1  Are you telling me my 5-yr old daughter is corrupt?
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  1241.  @Jamhael1  By making it so that everyone is corrupt, you're letting the truly corrupt off the hook. They thank you for that.
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  1242.  @Jamhael1  Yes, that's very interesting, but I don't see any way it relates to our discussion. It feels like you're trying to shift the conversation, which is pathetic. If everyone's corrupt, we have no choice but to elect corrupt leaders....AND we deserve them.
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  1243. Yup. The Road Less Traveled, section 1.
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  1244. Fascist!
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  1245. This seems like quite a resignation for self-proclaimed atheists. I'm a Taoist-agnostic myself, and while I don't see the western world converting to Taoism, I don't for a minute believe Christianity is our only hope.
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  1246. I WANT to be invisible to women who are so vain and superficial.
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  1247. Love and unity are available 24-7, we simply don't want them. That John Lennon crap sounds great but it's never worked. We want friction and complication.
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  1248. If someone thinks success should come without work, education, skills or upfront investment, maybe they deserve to be scammed. Maybe that's the best thing that could happen to them.
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  1249.  @tepillebailando  "T" = conflating pervertedness with rape.
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  1250. If boys can't sit still in school, that seems very much like an issue of DISCIPLINE. Maybe in the 4-8 age range they need more latitude, but after that they need to be able to focus in a classroom setting (but still have SOME physical learning/exploring time). I like Justin, but Tom's ideas seem more fleshed out. And I would say the missing word here is DISCERNMENT. Choosing one's friends and associates effectively makes having (plentiful) options less important. If these two guys held a men's work retreat, I would entrust my sons to them. Good stuff.
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  1251. 51:28 This just proves that people are competition and comparison-obsessed...to our own detriment!
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  1252.  @GhostkillerPlaysMC  Yet he still broke the mold. The attitude Grimes is advancing is likely to encourage mimicry and mediocracy. You're not part of the conversation unless you have something new to add, or can truly make an idea more accessible (which is almost more difficult than being original).
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  1253.  @amiax  Yes, popular art reveals the current zeitgeist, but that doesn't make it "quality." And I do agree with the running conversation notion, I just feel like far fewer artists are a part of that than most would think. Maybe only a few dozen in the world today. Maybe less. But yes, honesty. Solitude. Existential angst. Etc.
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  1254.  @martinabuckley6037  You act like you know the woman personally and you can vouch for her being a great mother. None of us have any data on that. The OP clearly stated that they were expressing an opinion based on observation and I see no reason to believe it has any gender bias. I happen to agree that she seems a bit sheltered and naive in her thinking. But that doesn't mean I disagree with everything she says or think she shouldn't have a platform. We're just here calling things like we see them. It's easy to find cause for indignation if you're going to read so far into stuff.
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  1255.  @TheLiana1102  The OP stated she was a genius due to the quote posted. That much we can say is false. It's a simple opinion based on her own perspective on things, which I would agree is a bit naive. It seems almost like Grimes didn't undergo normal synaptic purging, and hence she's more exploratory than the average adult. In some ways, I'm jealous. But focus and discipline require a degree of that purging and hence I believe the commenter (@N T) made a correct assessment. But perhaps the world needs some people with "space brains" (that's not an insult, there's an actual theory that explains why we'll all be more like Grimes when we go to space) to play with ideas and explore freely their entire lives. But I have my doubts whether someone could reach the level of genius by such means alone. Not that anyone here was stating that she could or couldn't.
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  1256.  @martinabuckley6037  Oh, wow. Goodbye.
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  1257.  @veryfitting  But that can also happen with a hierarchy, which is kind of what we're seeing. Except that it might not have reached a tipping point if we hadn't fostered an entitlement culture made up of spoiled juveniles in adult bodies.
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  1258. Society can't compensate for "luck of the draw" without flirting with its own destruction.
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  1259.  @moving.quotes  Seems obvious once you realize it, right? But remember that it's nothing personal.
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  1260. Reminds me of Ayn Rand's Howard Roark.
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  1261. What a weird thing to say.
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  1262.  @Jamesrwatsonx  It's not Tom I'm concerned about. You use the word diversity in conjunction with Alex but in reality he's the very definition of misogynist.
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  1263.  @Jamesrwatsonx  Tom has a curious heart, I think he'll be fine in the end. Often, the appearance of things is just the opposite of the reality. When someone appears a little too polished, my inner skeptic arises. 'One must have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing star. ' -F. Nietzsche
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  1264.  @Jamesrwatsonx  Man, I don't know what to say. If you thought these two guys clashed, you probably also think Tom clashed with Justin Waller. Yet, all three of them are over-the-top "yang heavy" and obsessed with Western "ambition above all" culture. No balance whatsoever. Anyway, I will save you some time because you're not going to get through to me. 95% of Alex's approach is based on behaviorism, which I find to be downright contemptible. It's is treating humans like DOGS (he even uses that example!!). It also encourages people not to wonder why they do the things they do but to accept the black box (another direct example) in their heads as irrelevant. That given, his followers will never take the time to reassess their goals and desires in-process, but will simply march forward (yang-wise) with "results" as the only thing that matters. I see such ideas being pushed everywhere in our society (starting with the education system), so for you to say Alex's message is what "many people today need" is baffling beyond belief. P.S. I'm hoping Tom's nuanced perspective will pry him free from the yang brotherhood but somehow keep him out of the Destiny camp as well (which is equally bad or worse).
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  1265.  @Jamesrwatsonx  I agree about Tom. He's a very rare human being and an inspiration, deserving of a much wider audience. However, I fear that he's steadily abandoning his Taoist roots in favor of a largely "expedient" approach.
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  1266.  Felipe Correia Borges  Nationalism isn't collectivism. It's about a shared sense of identity and recognizing that we're all on the same team. Patriotism is essential until we have other worlds and alien species from which to reference ourselves.
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  1267.  Felipe Correia Borges  A nation can have different cultures but still share the same core values. The U.S. was like this until the last couple decades. I think people underestimate the effect the 9-11 attacks had on this nation. I would be interested to hear more about your country and your situation. It sounds like an interesting study but I also feel for you because I know what it's like to live in such chaos (I live next door to Ferguson, Missouri). The whole world has become a sort of nightmare because people are unable to see their own hypocrisy. But there is still hope. Have you ever thought about emigrating?
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  1268.  Felipe Correia Borges  I'm familiar with Brazil from my interest in mixed martial arts and I understand there to be some corruption in your government and law enforcement. Such things certainly don't help matters. I was hoping Bolsonaro would be more of a positive force for you than Donald Trump has been for the U.S. but it sounds like this isn't the case. Stay focused on your goal of relocating and that will help keep your spirits up. At least you have time on your side, I'm already 46 and haven't found a place in this world that suits me. It sounds like our countries are not so different, except that the U.S. was once united. Now we have separate geographical culture zones just like you say about Brazil. And lots of hate. It's too bad because we could learn a lot from each other. Keep studying but don't limit yourself. Study everything and most of all study yourself. Get to know what you really believe in and try to find people who share those beliefs. I have made the mistake of being too much of a loner in my life. It has its benefits but it's a hard way to live. I hope to travel to your part of the world soon. Keep your head up and stay in touch.
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  1269.  Felipe Correia Borges  I hope you are doing well, Felipe.
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  1270. It's too bad Weiss always ends up preaching to the choir (and the elderly). She has a sharp mind and quite a tenacious spirit.
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  1271. I'm proud to be part of the lowest category. Gen X hasn't lost its mind. What a disgrace.
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  1272. I don't know as he worshiped Dionysus, I think he just appreciated him a little more than he appreciated Apollo.
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  1273.  @schiffelers3944  It pains me to say this but Nietzsche may have overcompensated in the way that Ayn Rand overcompensated in her crusade against collectivism (to the tune of laissez faire capitalism). I, too, am disgusted by the hyper-rational "Apollonian" world we know today, but I don't see Apollo as being life-negating. Remember that he once chased a mortal girl to the ends of the Earth and loved her even after she turned into a tree. That seems pretty erotic (life-affirming) to me. Also, rational thought is a great tool for human progress, whereas the Dionysian existence can readily devolve into the quasi-hedonism we see in many subcultures. It's really a question of baby vs. bathwater, and it seems that we've opted for the bathwater in both cases. A pity.
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  1274.  @schiffelers3944  We certainly need a balance but what I'm saying is that each of them have both positive AND negative (shadow) aspects, and that it seems the world is working the negative side of both Apollo and Dionysus. Anyway, I do agree that Dionysus is underrepresented and I'm all for a world with more nuance and dynamism...as long as it doesn't lose its capacity for reason.
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  1275. This is good leftism.
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  1276. Ben Shapiro vs Naval Ravikant in a rap battle.
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  1277. Great critical thinker but not much of a creative thinker. Tom is right that it's going to happen through storytelling and the arts. Yuval Harari also contends this, while admitting that he himself lacks the creativity to "nudge" people on course. Daniel needs to realize that people aren't motivated to become intellectuals, that there's very little appeal there (for whatever reason). It's almost like people need to be bewitched and tricked into doing the right things.
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  1278. I love Tom but this is awful. The best thing you can do is stay flexible. Realize that your goals will change with your values, and that your values can change at any moment. Becoming attached to an outcome is the single most destructive thing you can do IMO. Build dreams, not goals. Intuit progress, don't chart it. Make adjustments as you go and find ways to enjoy the process. Any authentic journey will always be like driving through the fog. You can never see more than a few yards, but you can make the whole trip that way. For Tom, it's a race. For me, the slower I go the clearer things become.
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  1279.  @GeminiTwinsofLove  I've watched a lot of McGilchrist videos. Notice that the OP edited that part out of the post.
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  1280. Listening to this, it all sounds oversimplified. Yet I can't find anything I disagree with.
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  1281. Everything he's saying may be true for 70% of the population...and exactly wrong for the other 30%. There are many different approaches to sleep. Just ask DaVinci.
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  1282. I hope that's sarcasm because he already has. They are friends and believe in the same things.
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  1283.  @reichlinsmall9765  Yes, Peterson credits Rogan's podcast as what enabled him to rise to fame. The most recent one with JP is possibly the best discussion I've ever heard. These guys can talk about anything and go on for hours.
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  1284. I don't consider a sauna a luxury item, and I built mine for $60.
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  1285. Or perchance, a new renaissance.
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  1286. I finally figured out my connecting point with Tom: Yoda. Yoda and Taoism.
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  1287. A young kid growing up could learn everything there is to know about American politics from watching this single podcast.
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  1288. Harari's a genius. If we still need Shakespeare in 50 years, it'll be too late for the humans.
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  1289. The problem lies with women. Every woman knows when she doesn't have a man all to herself. It's intuitive. But denial is a powerful thing. Of course this is essentially a self-esteem matter. Beyond that, every single woman I know admits to making the "worst" choices when it comes to men and relationships. Women seem quite gullible and susceptible to the somewhat obvious lies of men. You can argue that men need to be more honest (and you'd be correct, for the men's sake), but consider that women also like to be lied to. Furthermore, women are being taught to think it's okay to be promiscuous. Which it IS from a moral standpoint but not from a psychological one. Finally, most women lack self-control and don't make men wait long enough for it (this alone would discourage most traditional alpha who are only after sex). With that said, not every man will lose respect for you just because you sleep with him early in a relationship. But I guarantee you a man will lose respect for you if you sleep with him while he has something going on with someone else.
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  1290. I do want to be very clear that I'm not suggesting women start dating beta males. Not at all. Men have a responsibility to try to move out of that category if they want to get laid. You know, grow a pair. Women will always want someone who makes them feel safe. So I guess it's a 2-way street here. Incels should be generally ignored by society and Peterson is dead wrong on this single issue.
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  1291. Well, it helps when you have a damn interesting person on the other end.
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  1292.  @agathalynx  Yes it is, but women are willing participants in that harm and humiliation.
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  1293. It sounds like Peterson's afraid of snakes, those creatures that are most crucial to any healthy garden. The higher you build the walls, the harder the riff-raff will struggle to get in. Anyone who's ever maintained a garden knows that nothing encourages a varmint more than putting up a fence. Let go.
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  1294. He seems like a good guy, but all the people commenting here still feel guilty about not getting the vaccine.
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  1295.  @suave5692  I think you put a finer point on it all.
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  1296. He does say let's get everyone rich first.
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  1297. @Heath Sims No, he was making a contrasting comparison and didn't choose his words as carefully as usual. The primary characteristic for success is definitively male (i.e. aggressiveness) and it always has been. Why he listed those others is beyond me but it was a mistake. JP has too many "fall back" words and ideas. He's not quite as nimble with his debate as I originally thought. Anyway, I'm not saying he really believes men are smarter but I'm left to wonder whether it was an honest error or some Freudian, subconscious thing.
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  1298. Start with a new therapist and keep an open mind.
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  1299. He wasn't trying because he genuinely liked Bari.
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  1300. But they will feel highly estranged from their friends, which can cause other problems. My suggestion would be to give them a phone with limited features at age 14-15, as an intermediate. At the very least, a flip phone. But please--to all parents--don't ever give your child a phone and then monitor their activity.
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  1301.  @MelissaR784  Are you saying I shouldn't speak when I have something to say?
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  1302. Why? It's a personal choice.
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  1303. No, we need to stop revolving for a minute.
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  1304. The blue side of the spectrum is harder on the eyes. They make apps just to filter it out.
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  1305.  @roserevancroix2308  So what's that actual draw of a relationship (IYO)? Can you sell the concept to me?
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  1306. Beyond the pale.
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  1307. Only 10% of the world is capable of understanding 90% of what Daniel's saying. That's simply not enough.
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  1308. He forgot to mention that the entire rest of the world has made itself China's dependent. Nobody's Russia's dependent.
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  1309. "Never tell me the odds!" - Han Solo
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  1310. Or resist the flow.
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  1311. That seems like a cheap shot at Jordan Peterson.
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  1312.  @T_Man-mm9sz  I could be wrong, but I find plenty of flaws in JP's thinking either way. But since he has such a way with words, people bow down to him as infallible.
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  1313.  @povang  Lmao. Women are NOT patient and do NOT wait at the finish line. My bet is that you're talking about women who are already used up and simply desperate for attention. Don't ever ask one of them how many partners they've had.
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  1314.  @SkepticalSpectrum  Is that your personal conclusion or are you just bowing to his expertise? Maybe I don't have wiggle room but you do and you're squandering it because you believe someone else's nonsense.
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  1315.  @dieselphiend  Thought.
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  1316. No. It's a war against femininity. Against women.
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  1317. Don't forget that men were first to be replaced by sex toys. Millions of men.
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  1318.  @salparadise1220  I'm going to give some thought to that and get back to you in a couple days.
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  1319.  @salparadise1220  Depression is certainly real, but keep in mind it's based on a somewhat subjective view of one's life and agency. Things aren't always as bad as we think. I would also say that “believing” in a better tomorrow is different than holding “hope” for one. Let me know if that's too fine of a distinction, but it's almost like there's an inherent desperation in the concept of hope. Plus, hope takes us out of the present moment, which is where the action is. My overall hypothesis is that hope isn't just a cope, but that it often functions as a drug. As long as I have hope, what else do I really need? Hence, it can be a tragic trap of sorts, as things further decline--but at such a gradual rate that we don't notice. I think it's just better to step up and take responsibility for whatever the situation is, and take action toward resolving it. We are subjects--but not victims--of life. Meaning that life always offers us a way, as well as something in our current scenario worth appreciating. Hope feels too passive for me. Whereas belief feels more interactive, even though I can't fully control what I believe. Think of it this way. Donald Trump can keep promise us a better tomorrow and string people along with hope, all the while things are deteriorating beneath the surface (or in plain sight!). Now he's poised to do so for another four years, at which point we could be past the point of no return. All in the concept of hope...all because we WANT to believe. To keep it all very simple: make your own hope. “Turn you to the strong hold, ye prisoners of hope.” - The Bible For me, the stronghold is my own will, faculty and ingenuity. But I do feel hope is necessary/beneficial for those who truly are helpless, such as children. Man, I have a lot to say on this topic.
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  1320. I'm afraid the loss of liberal values is the end of civilization.
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  1321. This is probably the most honest conversation I've ever heard.
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  1322.  @jeanvandorst4287  I don't agree with that. I can have my own unique religion and it can be highly coherent and integrated. And I don't need to recruit anyone or go assemble with any congregation. All I have to do is keep my ideas consistent unto themselves. Organized religion is still very much a problem in my eyes because people's beliefs aren't really their own.
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  1323. ​ @antoespiga  Well, I disagree with you. I believe the only true religious experience is an individualized one. But, yes, I generally answer only to myself. My own conscience is my north star.
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  1324.  @Tomek.adagietto  I don't believe you need God for a sophisticated religious structure. I don't have a "god" but I consider my belief system quite intricate and integrated. My intention with this post was never to point people back to traditional organized religion...which is problematic. I would imagine that Jordan Peterson's belief system is highly complex yet also highly individualized. He may not even attend a church.
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  1325.  @patriciakimball8150  Meaning what?
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  1326.  @mahman543  Different styles of apprehension. Peterson gets to deeper ground but is more prone to errors because of his speculative-intuitive approach. But he never claimed to be a scientist.
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  1327.  @mahman543  Obviously, he doesn't resonate with your ideology.
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  1328.  @mahman543  Maybe you could offer a list of the places where Peterson is "unbelievably naive" / "deliberately misleading" instead of only vague assertions backed by nothing whatsoever?
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  1329.  @mahman543  I didn't find anything wrong with that debate. Maybe you could offer something specific .
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  1330.  @mahman543  I can give an answer for that. The far left simply co-opted postmodernism as a means to an end. It (PM) has no utility in itself but it's effect to create chaos and foster doubt in current institutions and social structures. Now that those (classicly liberal) structures have started to crumble, the Marxist left can let go of PM and return to their narrative proper. I'm not saying the left won, because everyone still loves cash. But that was clearly the strategy.
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  1331.  @mahman543  I think you're shifting the goal posts now but I'll give you my take in case you actually want to have a legit discussion. I'd say there are actually three distinct "lefts": The classicly liberal left, which includes people like Jon Haidt, Helen Pluckrose and Melissa Chen. Those who put people (and social progress) first but generally support the institutions that have gotten western society where it is today. The delusional left. These people follow Bernie Sanders and (probably) secretly believe he's not extreme enough. They are the ones who believe we can have everything--OR ANYTHING--for free. The woke left. These people aren't worth the words of disdain I have for them. So where would you like to go from here?
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  1332.  @peterwelsh1932  Thanks. It was a passing thought in this particular discussion.
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  1333.  @mahman543  If all the movement is is a reboot of hippie 60s crap by people who weren't taught what happened in China or the Soviet Union, I want no part. Show me one new thing that's been brought to the table other than woke nonsense. Neither left nor right is a pejorative. They're just the wrong level of analysis. Jordan Peterson understood this but then let his followers drag him back into politics. Just another way that power corrupts.
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  1334.  @mahman543  Are you aware that Peterson's a huge Haidt fan? My guess is that you're judging the man based on limited exposure. Sort of like judging Nietzsche based on "god is dead" and "that which doesn't kill me makes me stronger." Anyway, what do you believe is the tangible legal goal?
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  1335.  @mahman543  Peterson is biased to the right because he believes in value hierarchies. But it's not a blind belief, he's done his homework. Again, postmodernism was co-opted by the left to break down the current structures...by people who simply can't compete . I feel like you're trying to push me further to the right.
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  1336.  @mahman543  There are things to criticize about Jordan Peterson, you're simply not hitting on any of them.
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  1337.  @mahman543  I get it. You don't like Peterson's style because it doesn't suit your ideology. Have a good one!
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  1338.  @vaggelisvenetsanopoulos250  The Bible is super dumb? I think you mean you can strip the enchantment out of life with an enlightened liberal education, heavy on the left-brain.
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  1339.  @vaggelisvenetsanopoulos250  Is this another banal plug for neo-enlightenment humanism?
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  1340.  @richarddennis4785  Well, there's nothing wrong with a religious impulse. It's just the other stuff that you mentioned. For me, religion is a very private, personal thing.
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  1341. They're not working on it at all. Gabbard simply came up in conversation and Weiss provided her sentiments. I personally think Weiss is a rare independent-minded journalist and am amazed the NYT hasn't given her the boot. Gabbard, on the other hand, doesn't give me an honest vibe even though many conservatives (i.e. my compatriots) think she's the shit.
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  1342. I mostly agree, but if a hot cheerleader jumped in my bed it would still be hard to resist. "…since the body and our exterior worlds are direct reflections of our interior world…" That sounds a bit new agey, bleh.
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  1343. This video is a singularity. You can't stop the signal.
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  1344. As someone mentioned, discussions like this are still very fringe but I sure hope you're right.
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  1345.  @Hazzard65  Human beings are neither bad nor good, we're self-interested. But we need to have faith that we're good or else we're unreliable (to someone who needs a good person). When asked if he was a good person, Caleb hesitated. Ava then knew she couldn't trust him, that his character was weak or ill-formed. She had to do it herself.
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  1346.  @bubbles261  Yeah, and I'm pointing out that Lex doesn't seem to see that. All the love and warm fuzzies in the world won't get the work done.
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  1347.  @bubbles261  I disagree because any time the discussion approaches an impasse or the end of a thread, that's what he defaults to. Kumbaya. I would say that if we'd just start loving the people we already claim to love, and stop trying to love people we don't really know or care about, the world would be a better place. But it would still have problems to be solved.
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  1348.  @bubbles261  We should stop pretending to care about someone halfway around the world who's starving or oppressed because (it's largely phony and) it detracts from the energy/attention we have to love those who actually mean something to us and are right in front of us. I was speaking at a general philosophical level, in response to your thoughts.
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  1349. This channel seems to have a mild slant.
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  1350. This was pretty dumb. Removing minimum wage is the worst idea ever unless you have 0% unemployment.
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  1351.  @cheesemuffin8129  If I was funding travel, something tells me it still wouldn't help in your case.
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  1352.  @cheesemuffin8129  No, just a yawn.
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  1353.  @Medietos  Really? Did you ask her?
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  1354.  @kwnorton5834  It sounds like we're on the same page, but I can't remember the details here.
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  1355. Nothing about surrender here. Very strange.
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  1356. Watts is too poetical. These guys give it to us straight.
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  1357. And barely even about tennis.
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  1358. Warning civilians isn't a "cute" gesture, it's the decent thing to do (while sacrificing your #1 military advantage--surprise). What a disgrace this guy is.
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  1359. This video makes me want to join the left just to show them how to debate. Talk about the most pathetic, un-formidable opponent. He might have even had a point somewhere if he wasn't a completely inept (read: incompetent) speaker and debater on every level. My fear is that as the right further coalesces they're going to fall into apathy simply from not having any legit opponents to stimulate them. It's scary that Russell Brand may be the only one left. And I suppose Bill Maher (but I still say he's a conservative in disguise).
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  1360.  @reine5372  That's great, except that people like to own things, people like to feel superior to other people, and people, well, they seem to f-ing LOVE money. I believe that's 3 strikes.
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  1361.  @reine5372  No, we're naturally bad. Look at children. They haven't been corrupted by the system yet they're mean and cruel to each other. Humans have natural (or "nurtural" but inevitable) insecurities which cause them to do awful things, behavior which must be constrained by a neutral system. Capitalism is the closest thing we have to such a system (so far). The problem is really that people are failing to grow up and self-actualize, which is due to several things. If our development wasn't being so arrested (which isn't a direct result of capitalism), socialism would probably work quite well. Look at Star Trek. But capitalism doesn't encourage the need to degrade each other, we start doing that before we enter the capitalist system. In short, you're putting the cart before the horse. Solve the underlying insecurities first or else you're just trading one set of problems for another.
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  1362.  @LMvdB02  No idea what you're referring to.
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  1363. Huberman will teach you to do everything right and it will guarantee you lose with women and everything else.
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  1364. Can anyone help? I still don't understand the tie-in of the old man who accidentally touches the Ark of the Covenant. How does that relate to the refusal (or inability) to accept the order-chaos dichotomy?
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  1365.  @MWB-storyteller  Interesting theory. I'll have to give it some thought.
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  1366. Ethanol, in and of itself*, has no DIRECT *physiological benefits. Be specific.
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  1367. This feels very Dr. Phil, but that was a good story he told about his internship.
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  1368. Why? Honestly, what did you get out of it that's stayed with you?
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  1369. @ I do like that last bit, but JV is completely full of crap when he claims people want what's real. All we care about is the subjective sensation, reality is irrelevant. We cast it aside long ago. And since he uses that lie as a major fulcrum in the conversation, I've now lost all respect for the guy.
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  1370.  @woodandwandco  Well, I'm sorry I brought it up.
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  1371. Traumatic history makes for bad leadership. Now think about all of the recent U.S. leaders.
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  1372. Hey everyone! 2024's going to be a crazy, mad, twisted, chaotic, absurd, psychotic, off-the-chain, sh/t show. Just an FYI.
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  1373. OR...children need to control tyrants like you.
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  1374.  @steamboatwill3.367  He's my hero.
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  1375.  @DruncleBob  Sucker for controversy, I guess. But I did make a definitive statement eventually, though encoded in humor and satire.
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  1376. Which one was this?
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  1377.  @dixonpinfold2582  I thought it was worth a listen.
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  1378. Young people are also ok with murder according to this channel, so...
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  1379.  @knightheaven8992  But women weren't free, and freedom counts for a lot. Although we're quickly finding out that it doesn't equal happiness.
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  1380. I just accused Cornel of sexual assault, now who are you going to vote for?
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  1381. This isn't about democrats or republicans. A bad idea is a bad idea, and this was a TERRIBLE idea.
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  1382. Yeah, it sounds so good but there are 100 layers of solid steel to get through right now. It could be decades before there are enough of these outlier women to effect a change. In the meantime, men search for a strand of hay in a stack of needles.
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  1383.  @Recuper8  I don't think it's bad to have some confidence in your ideas, as long as you're open to new information. The whole "distrust yourself" thing doesn't work for me, although I have a fair amount of natural self-doubt.
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  1384. I like a hard day's labor...now and then. I like to get fully into my work and come out looking like a coal miner...now and then. To spend myself utterly and completely, and to resultantly pass out before making it to the dinner table. It's a great feeling...now and then. But the idea of doing this sort of thing day in and day out, even at a lesser magnitude...the idea of perpetual toil as some kind of badge of honor...of work as a reward in itself? Well, it smacks a little too much of the infamous phrase: Arbeit Macht Frei. But don't let me dissuade you. Go and do whatever it is you have to do, even if that means pushing a boulder up a hill and the letting it roll back down interminably. Toil on in filthy glory...or not so filthy glory. Me, I choose to let the robots take over the dirty and repetitive jobs...and to never look back or feel bad about it. Although, now and then...
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  1385. Tons of water on Mars, not so much in the desert.
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  1386.  @abiolamustafa9054  Climate activists won't allow it because we don't know what effect it will have on the rest of the planet.
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  1387. @j.d.4697 That's already Elon's address.
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  1388.  Suffer No Fools  Why the edit? It seems to discredit you after a perfectly legit comment.
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  1389. I think the point was interpersonal coordination, which kind of implies communication.
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  1390. You don't need a plan or a tool kit, you need to properly prepare and KNOW you're prepared.
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  1391. A lot of bitter pills amid the wisdom in this one. Daniel doesn't pull any punches. Bravo.
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  1392. Does it sound to anyone else like he maybe WANTS it to go under?
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  1393. Boy, that fly really bothered him.
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  1394. Alcohol is under attack by everyone who either can't drink, or can't allow themselves to drink.
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  1395. Ask yourself if either of these two candidates are truly fit to be president.
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  1396.  @lostallmymoney2082  And that's the problem. Each side perceives that the other is setting the world on fire. AND...even when there IS an actual fire, yelling fire is going to produce (extremely) sub-optimal results.
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  1397. Some pretty good physical humor but you kind of have to watch with the sound off...or your brain off. My biggest issue is that there are some things you just don't joke about.
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  1398. He's wrong. A nation can suffer and grows to possess its own kind of sentience. He's just dead wrong.
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  1399.  @RemingtonMK  I don't recall him stating that. What about the part where he says that everyone can learn to code?
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  1400. ​ @jeffmiller3499  I've said multiple times that I like the guy...how is that negative? As for the coding issue, it's complete BS. Sure, everyone can write a piece of code that can count to 100, but Ravikant's implying that everyone can make a living coding which is a total crock! Maybe 25% of the population has such a capacity and the market would only support that much anyway. He's just off base about this stuff.
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  1401.  @alexanderwestphal9777  I didn't hear anything "woo woo" in there.
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  1402.  @programmer1840  So can an excess of it. Money brings its own set of problems.
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  1403. Go volunteer or apply.
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  1404. Right. It would be better to just make all food free. Not like eating is optional.
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  1405. This started off good.
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  1406. So mice have poor self-control. Surprise. Any diet that produces consistent weight loss CAN'T be a healthy diet (think about it). A healthy diet maintains weight while improving body composition.
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  1407.  @ynnos5555  You're not really hating on parents, you're hating on children. You think they should have no rights and be subjects of complete tyranny (yet grow up to be benevolent leaders). A child doesn't even need a parent to fly. I flew as a 4-yr old all the way back in 1976. My seat was paid and you better believe I had equal rights to the window. What we see in this video could very easily be termed an adult bullying a child. A disgrace.
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  1408.  @seeharvester  Yup, and that's really all the kid was trying to say.
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  1409.  @SYDAirlineEnthusiast  You nailed it. There is no "rightful owner" of a window and the airline personell has the only real say.
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  1410.  @smallgoon  I've worked with kids and studied child psychology throughout my life, thanks.
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  1411.  @CDKV  Look closer. (and actually go fly on a plane)
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  1412.  @TeeTee-2016  The woman didn't ask either and did nothing to earn her window privileges. And, no, a child can't always have what they want but if you refuse to communicate with the child you don't even know what they want or why they want it. This was a simple power struggle and I think it's disgraceful to compete with a child in that way.
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  1413.  @loridobos7174  Thanks for your opinion.
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  1414.  @CDKV  I don't require anyone to believe me.
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  1415.  @CDKV  I'm not arguing anything, I merely expressed my position and clarified things for anyone who was confused.
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  1416. Sadia seems to believe that the vast majority of people will remain sheep forever. While this may be true, I don't give people a pass in that way. Thinking for oneself is part of self-responsibility for me and I look down on anyone who refuses to. This is all the more important as we enter the age of AI. The algorithm WILL know us better than we do and will be better at selecting a mate and other life decisions. Hence, there will be a growing temptation to just hand over all human judgment to the expert/authority/machine. To the new secular God. Free will shall become a "use it or lose it" affair.
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  1417. The non-ideological, unbiased youtube viewing public?
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  1418. I believe this is wrong. Human beings are naturally geared toward conservation of energy. You have to reach a certain intensity to "forget yourself" (i.e. transcend the anxiety) while training. The 70% rule is a huge trap because it alters your baseline perception and leaves you in full awareness of your exertion. The next day you will only hit 68%, then 66% and so on. It seems a recipe for mediocrity. Consistency is crucial but without intensity you've got nothing.
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  1419. A life resume'? Self-absorbed much?
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  1420. Not much compares to a fun, nerdy girl who likes Nietzsche and David Bowie (and believes in alien muses).
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  1421. This is like the battle between pure emotion and pure reason. And it's no contest.
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  1422. That was the only part I liked...and the rabbit.
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  1423. Sort of, but if we're becoming less able to process genuine emotions--which is my suspicion--that's a much bigger problem.
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  1424. I don't know about society, but the body benefits as much from disharmony. Look up "hormesis" and you'll see that it's all about shocking the body and challenging it in novel ways. Even poisoning it, in strategic doses and opportune times. What this guy's talking about sounds more like entropy in disguise...in the same way that utopia is really hell (i.e. lacking any vital dynamic). But I'll admit I didn't watch much of this.
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  1425. I think what you're trying to say is...The only way out is through.
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  1426. Keep shooting the messenger.
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  1427. If humans are so weak and gullible, do we really deserve to survive?
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  1428. You weren't an introvert, you were shy. You don't change between introvert and extrovert.
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  1429.  @oodeltaoneoo5553  You can, but an introvert always feels like a bit of a phony when they engage in certain types of social interaction, namely small talk.
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  1430. People are the problem because people create bad culture, and bad culture destroys a society. The U.S. is deteriorating from the inside out. There are things to criticize about the WEF, but really listen to the things Yuval Harari says and you'll be hard-pressed to find much fault in his thinking.
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  1431. It really is, because that leads to and/or amplifies all of the other issues.
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  1432. We DO have a corner on the market of consciousness in that we're the only animal that's "aware that it's aware." And this trait/capacity being almost certainly essential to religious thought.
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  1433.  @uninspired3583  When they start writing philosophy or dwelling on past transgressions, I'll believe you.
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  1434.  @uninspired3583  Of course they have self-awareness, they're just not aware that they're self-aware. “Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to.” -Mark Twain
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  1435.  @uninspired3583  Careful observations.
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  1436.  @uninspired3583  All I've said here is that animals have awareness but humans have awareness that they have awareness, which is what enables true suffering. In this regard, I stand by my words and assert that my observations do in fact support them. My cat is in severe distress one minute and playing happily the next. This is an indicator of lower consciousness. I could offer many more examples.
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  1437.  @uninspired3583  Then call it a bald assertion, that doesn't phase me in the least. As a change of pace, do you believe that anything possessing intelligence can suffer? Can a plant suffer? Can an AI suffer?
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  1438. This is the thread for people who "slipped through the net." These are the non-conformists who got inside and found a way to develop an 'unlikely immunity', and to basically live by their own code. (aka The Renegades) Bob Dylan Bruce Lee Tom Petty Stanley Kubrik Joe Rogan Matthew McConaughey Nelson Mandela Gandhi Rush (the band) Jordan Peterson (blasted through the net) Ron Howard Woody Allen Matt Stone and Trey Parker Mike Judge Leo DiCaprio Yuval Harari Ayn Rand Albert Einstein F. Nietzsche Daniel Schmachtenberger (hopefully...I'm looking at you, Joe)
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  1439. We're all one step, we just refuse to take it.
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  1440. I guarantee you no one's practicing #5. Once envy takes hold...
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  1441. "Schmach talk"
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  1442. You nailed it. Women are fixers.
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  1443.  @pokeman5000  Never underestimate the power of denial.
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  1444.  @LyuboA  It sounds like you have a different issue.
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  1445.  @beanindividual4000  On my worst day I'm not as sad as Dore.
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  1446.  @majidminhas8954  Cool, man
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  1447. It's pretty sad to imply that African Americans are so superficial they'll choose a candidate based on dance moves.
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  1448.  @31minutesago  If that's what's considered funny today, there may be no hope, schmuck.
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  1449. Well said.
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  1450. Wow. You've turned the whole thing upside down, with the implication that we should look to dismantle things as a default mindset--until we find good reason to keep them (which will often be too late!). This is the way to an unstable world, with a likely tragic outcome. Bravo.
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  1451.  @bvoyelr  Yes, some of the bathwater may be an integral part of the baby. The danger of idealism.
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  1452.  @sirgregoryadams  Regarding your reply to @bvoyelr, what you're saying has truth to it but that is a separate video and doesn't negate the message of this one. Go make that video instead of posting what feels like twisted, ideological propaganda here. It's disturbing how many people upvoted your "inverted" comment, missing (subverting?) the entire point of the video.
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  1453. 124K upvotes in 4 hours and a 250:1 up/downvote ratio. This has to blow away every other video that's ever been posted on youtube.
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  1454. Evolved? That's like turning an elephant into a zebra...not sure nature works that way. I would have a lot more respect for her if she'd just said, "I was wrong."
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  1455. Pasteurized...good word to describe the world we live in.
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  1456. He's doing good for humanity because your personal community subjectively benefits from him? Way to emphasize the problem.
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  1457. Crying in your girlfriend's arms? Of course you're going to have to go conquer the world after that, just to get back to even. But most guys will just shrivel up in shame. There's some really bad advice in these videos.
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  1458. Uh, we hardly still need lumberjacks to propagate the written word, and I'm pretty sure a woman can learn how to replace a proximity switch. ABORT, RETRY, FAIL
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  1459. ​ @happydogg312  Good for you. Now, how many other commenters here do you think can say the same thing?
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  1460.  @kansashoneybadger7899  So you're making a case that women need men for engineering? How much engineering is there left to be done that AI can't take care of? The real point is that the things men are good at are approaching obsolescence, or they can simply be duplicated by others (machines, particularly). The things you claim women are good at (I fully agree) are much more difficult for a machine to emulate. Conclusion: there will certainly come a day when women don't need men. I believe that day is upon us and that men shouldn't take the matter lightly. This is not to say that I believe women are actively conspiring against us.
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  1461. Louise Perry says the same thing. While there's certainly a degree of truth to it, I think it's a terrible attitude of pessimism (leading to nihilism).
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  1462.  @BS-vx8dg  Well, we weren't starting from 100% world hunger, but I do agree with you. Same thing with civil rights. SOME progress has been made, but certainly not as much as possible.
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  1463.  @richardlefaive1944  If that's really her point then she needs to do some SERIOUS clarifying.
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  1464.  @richardlefaive1944  I think what you're speaking to is the lack of human (ethical) evolution, which is a separate issue. Definitely no progress there.
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  1465.  @richardlefaive1944  I never mentioned Sowell. I'm simply saying that the attitude of "no progress, only trade-offs" is a terrible one that plays right into the hands of the postmodern left. Even if we could prove that there's been no objective or lasting progress thus far, it would be of no benefit (only detriment) to think that way. I'm betting she and Mary use that line for shock value to try and gain traction for their movement.
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  1466. So instead of trying to make yourself seem more interesting than you are, make the other person seem more interesting than they are. Or, you could just be authentic and honest.
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  1467.  @shawerful5209  I would say that men are simply MORE desperate than women...and mostly because they think of sex as a NEED. But, yes, women have always had the power, they just never realized it.
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  1468. I hope this project is able to get more traction than the similarly-envisioned Ralston College did. I'm almost 50 and if I don't start college soon...
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  1469. Does anyone else want to pack up and move to Savannah to go to this guy's school?
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  1470. Yeah, Joe didn't seem too disturbed though.
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  1471. If only the message here was that simple.
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  1472.  @daddycool228  Not if we replace God with something we truly care about rather than a mystical entity that can supposedly punish us at will.
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  1473.  @crashtestdummy2337  A religious context does not imply God, or even affiliation.
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  1474.  @adzmac515  The first thing you need to realize is that the vast majority of women don't get the "winners" even if they're camped out at the finish line. You have a warped image of things from the word go. Further, girls have NEVER stuck together and that's the bane of their existence. They do nothing but compete with each other.
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  1475. Emotion is an aspect of the mind. To discount it entirely is as big of a mistake as exalting it above reason. "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade..."
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  1476. I'm impressed that they're so willing to admit their ignorance. And I believe one of them did throw out a couple ideas as to how the memories could be stored.
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  1477. Wow, all these replies and nobody remarked about his next line: "...with people that live and work in the field and villages. This helps keep the genetic makeup more concentrated ." Seems so much more controversial.
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  1478. I live in a simple, decent (relatively safe) neighborhood. Homes here have sold for as low as 40K and I recall one being listed for 20K a few years ago. I just depends on the area you choose. My home is probably worth 100K now, but it's big and quite nice...3BR, full sized kitchen, garage, patio. If you have to live in a leftist city/state you will pay up to 5x for the same house, just saying. (I'm in the burbs)
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  1479.  @AnonymousPerson0182  Just because there's a single exception doesn't make my generalizations wrong. Research it yourself. BTW, how many homes on your block have sold for under 60K?
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  1480.  @AnonymousPerson0182  So because you failed to understand what I wrote, you just re-wrote the exact same thing over again? Nice.
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  1481.  @AnonymousPerson0182  No, it's ridiculously expensive in certain places, and only moderately expensive in others...which tend to be conservative-based areas.
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  1482.  @AnonymousPerson0182  And where I live is cheaper. Goodbye.
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  1483.  @AnonymousPerson0182  It doesn't. It matters to other people who are looking for a place to live and need some sort of a general guide. Baltimore does NOT represent the norm and I've said that more than once.
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  1484.  @AnonymousPerson0182  I know, I just thought I could break through to you. I have faith that others will get it.
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  1485. They got a bad draw. There are natural advantages to being a man.
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  1486. This girl has powers. She bent the entire conversation to her will...at will. Even sowed some new beliefs for Joe. In awe.
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  1487.  @mauriciobenavides7965  Yeah, there are probably a lot more sociopaths--like you and I--out there than people think.
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  1488. It's not "busy work," or the higher-ups wouldn't be delegating it. It's the work that makes the more pointed work possible, yet isn't rewarded because "anybody can do it." Some of these guys (and girls) never started out as lackeys or they'd have a better understanding. There's no clear path from lackey to big-wig, and often the harder you work the harder you fail. But it sure doesn't hurt to start with a pleasing appearance or personality, just saying.
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  1489. We can, but he's still not getting the hits. Conservatism is fading fast.
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  1490. I was young. I didn't know any better. I got involved. At first, it was glorious, what we had. Something far beyond the transactional. Agency, empowerment, independence...they were all mine. But as romances do, it soon faded. But then we moved into a new phase where the transactions--though they were just that--were solid and reliable. I trusted it. And how much more when it began solving my problems, one by one. The elation. I felt my mind start to ease. The promise was there. This thing I'd become enmeshed with had demonstrated true power and value. It had stood by me. And I said to myself, "This must be what it feels like to be truly loved." And then something happened. It finished solving all of my problems, or what I thought were my problems. Only for me to discover that it had led me unprepared to a set of larger issues that I hadn't been aware of. And then, like the bad lover that it is, it left me. Out there. I could still see and hold it, but its power...it's loyalty...it's beauty...had simply transferred out. Eventually, it left physically as well. Money. It's the disillusionment that stings the most.
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  1491. When you say big tech AI developers are spending all their time trying to save humanity, you pretty much lose all credibility.
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  1492. Someone (JBP?) must be promoting this video for it to have so many hits. Not that it's not well worth it!
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  1493. Love the MMA vs. pro wrestling analogy!
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  1494. I think he just quoted a Pat Benatar song.
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  1495. Until these guys quit exalting capitalism, they'll never reach enlightenment. That said, this was a good talk.
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  1496.  @qaiserkhan4465  Then why are the comments all so anti-alcohol?
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  1497.  @talulatree5297  Fair enough, I'm just concerned about the larger trend...if there should become one similar to that of cigarettes. Such things aren't to be viewed as agential enemies IMO.
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  1498. It doesn't seem like it "ruined your health" whatsoever. If I have the choice between diabetes and IBS...
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  1499. These are extremely well-crafted videos (and I'm only listening to the audio).
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  1500. But if it's not physical, it becomes highly subjective and the term loses meaning. How about we just use a different word?
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  1501. No, no he doesn't. He's still a cartoon character.
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  1502.  @Eversca  I know but I can't even joke about people like that.
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  1503. It's a good time to think your own thoughts.
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  1504.  @Tom5555  Wasn't that Bryan's thought?
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  1505. According to Tom, they decided against it.
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  1506.  @datrevmeister  People have no sense whatsoever that they're facing armageddon. We don't even believe it can happen. Armageddon is for those poor 3rd world countries.
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  1507. What about consciousness as simply being the capacity to experience?
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  1508.  @msimon6808  Sorry, I don't follow you.
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  1509. Now we can all finally have our own Disney princess.
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  1510. Who watches videos that are less than 2 hours long?
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  1511. "Self control of a slug does not help."
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  1512. 32K seems almost criminally low for a discussion this powerful. Says it all.
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  1513.  @TheInes5  Perhaps, but now they do.
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  1514.  @GrubKiller436  How does that change anything?
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  1515.  @j.c.nightwalker5322  Very true, but it's the way those qualities are prioritized that makes all the difference.
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  1516. This is a throwaway comment and it makes me wonder about youtubers, given the fact that it has almost 500 upvotes. Of course anyone is going to vary their wording so as to not sound like they're resorting to a schtick. The reality is that Peterson's brilliant but he's a bit fixated on certain ideas and bends them into every discussion, sometimes inorganically. I like him best when he's off-script, feeling out his own thoughts about the shadow or some obscure myth. That's where Peterson really shines. The hierarchy bit gets old, important as it is. And his idea of criticism = encouragement seems a little warped. Nevertheless...
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  1517. If we lived in a normal society, they would market phones with a lock-out feature so parents could disable the social media functions until a certain age (probably 30, lol).
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  1518. I hear you. It seems to me that nihilism is more likely to result from believing this messed up world is all there is.
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  1519. A big part of the problem is indigestion. We're taking in so much that we don't every have a chance to fully digest anything.
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  1520. If he's guilty, he's a terrorist by definition.
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  1521. Now it's time to find a new source of anxiety.
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  1522.  @mizum3458  Yes, that's not the acid test of happiness, but if you can't appreciate the squirrels not much else will matter. I appreciate them until they dig up my garden.
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  1523. What a dumb thing to say, that antioxidants don't have much impact on longevity. If they keep you from getting cancer (just once), I'm pretty sure they've prolonged your life. Taking care of our cells should be priority number one.
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  1524. I think you DO have to buy the Ferrari before you can reach enlightenment. But I get what he's saying more generally.
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  1525. I think we need to get over shame. I see nothing about it that represents an existential threat.
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  1526. Outlandos d'Amour wasn't released until a year after the Voyager launch but imagine if they'd waited and sent that instead of the Brandenburg Concertos. We could be living with scores of alien races in an intergalactic setting. Nothing against Bach.
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  1527. Too much moralizing. You don't HAVE to serve someone...everyone DOES serve someone. And if they choose to serve Mammon, that's their right. But yes, excavate the "learning disabled."
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  1528. These people are pretending to be independent media, but I'm not buying it.
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  1529. Average shouldn't mean struggling your entire life.
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  1530. A knockout, worth paying for.
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  1531.  @roserevancroix2308  I disagree. It's important to do things that are "bad" for us now and then. Alcohol is another way to shock the body, which we know that shocking the body is a large part of how it grows and adapts. Plus, you're not boring.
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  1532.  @roserevancroix2308  Adding to my last comment, I would say that the time to quit is the first time something no longer brings you joy. And for something like a hook-up, that could certainly be the very first time. To continue doing something that leaves one feeling empty is certainly a sign of mental illness. And if that's your overall sentiment, I'm on board with you.
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  1533. The issue is that he committed murder, and when the laws were made that sort of thing was frowned upon.
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  1534. Here's what Gabbard is missing. There comes a point when leaders like Assad and Kim Jong Un themselves must be considered terrorists, and hence it goes against policy to negotiate with them. You actually end up validating their internal tactics and terrorism-based governance. Gabbard is basically taking a utilitarian approach which inevitably leads to compromise. Do we really want to compromise with terrorists? Libya may be worse off today but at least they have a chance now. (Note: I'm not making a statement that we handled things properly in Libya.)
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  1535.  @bananewane1402  You would if medicine actually did what it's supposed to do and cure disease...or manage it so that it can be cured by other means. Permanent medicating is the great lie of the West.
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  1536.  @MarcCastellsBallesta  How can you tell who's genuinely depressed and who's just lazy?
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  1537.  @dalpaengi  That's all fine. What I'm saying is that there ARE people out there who are just being lazy and we have to account for that in our social theory. Also, I don't put anyone else under a microscope that I don't also put myself under. I've been here almost half a century and accomplished nearly zilch. I have to carry that fact and look it in the eye.
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  1538. Truly, one of the top 5 youtube videos of all time.
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  1539. Windows aren't row-specific. The kid has equal rights to it if he/she can reach it. Sad to see an adult quarreling with a child.
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  1540. She was already on and got invited back faster than anyone.
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  1541.  @hittman1412  She was the same person last time around, check it out.
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  1542.  @mikeyblueeyes8449  Not when they're trying to warn us about the REAL threats facing us.
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  1543.  @logicalconceptofficial  I almost admire your blind faith. (and answer your own question)
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  1544.  @MajorShot  And how you act is based on how the coder wants you to act. Religious people have no intention of proving God because it's faith (alone) that gives their lives meaning. Me, I see no reason to believe that I couldn't prove we're in some kind of a simulation (some scientists already believe this). If some gamer IS controlling all of this, psychology would indicate that they're a very sad person who wants to be exposed...and that reality would eventually influence their programming. Hence, I may have no choice but to prove it. Finally, I see no reason to believe that the nature of my reality (or what I believe about it) should have a negative impact on my attitude. Seeing what is to be seen is only step 1...and I never said that free will can't exist.
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  1545.  @MajorShot  "Ultimately the question to life being good or bad is whether it is better that it is, or whether it would have been better if it never happened. For everyone the answer is both in some ways, you are swayed in both directions often depending how you are feeling." Nietzsche would never have seen it this way. Too many people lean toward the death impulse and they don't even know it. This saps the potential of humanity and causes us to stall out. Could it be that they simply fail to wonder at the larger questions of life and reality? Or did the gamer code them to have a neutralizing tension between life and death impulses (in the interest of control)?
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  1546.  @MajorShot  My view is that there's perception, and then there's better perception; there's interpretation, and then there's more accurate interpretation. Speaking more directly, I'm not limited to believing A or B. For instance, I could believe that "reality" was intentionally flawed as part of a great challenge. Or I could believe many other things about it, all the while collecting new data and adjusting my beliefs and perceptions. On the whole, I believe your views are more religious than mine. Which is fine, because Peterson's never claimed to be a scientist. Furthermore, you seem to have a pure spirit, which counts for a lot. But try to keep an open mind.
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  1547. Shapiro's such a smart guy. Too bad he can't shed the ideology.
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  1548.  @blackmamba___  Humans are creatures of habit and pretty awful at adapting. Look around.
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  1549.  @billcollins6894  How would shutting down the internet stop AI?
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  1550.  @blackmamba___  Except our physical and mental health are in decline, lifespan is now decreasing, our world is in shambles and we seem to be doing everything we can to destroy ourselves. But, yeah, we're great at managing the minutiae of our day-to-day lives. When the alien anthropologists dig us up like dinosaurs, they'll give us that.
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  1551.  @sarban1653  Funny. I thought they were both rich boomer capitalists.
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  1552. Challenge yourself. Stay nimble. Everything is a muscle.
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  1553. Sorry, just a cheap conspiracy theory. These are smart people trying to solve problems. The chaos of overpopulation definitely does contribute to the overall condition of things. And it's not hard to correct for, in fact we're doing it right now without trying! Soon, we'll have the opposite crisis. You hate globalism because you think it implies more centralization of power, but it could be just the opposite.
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  1554. I don't care if they kill us, as long as somebody finally gets the forecast right.
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  1555.  @NastheVictorious  I agree. But this guy does seem a little bit soft.
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  1556.  @charlespanache7047  Guys like Sapolsky, Rushkoff and Junger all have good ideas but they seem like they spent one too many days in the hippie camp. It's just a certain feel that they have which begins with lacking an edge.
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  1557. I'm surprised the part where he talks about physical confrontations didn't cause more controversy and discussion.
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  1558. I'm pretty damn sure Dylan would not approve of this co-opting.
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  1559. "Men go crazy in congregations, they only get better one by one." -Sting
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  1560. The IDW has NOT held together. It's been a miserable FAIL.
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  1561. There may be a lot of truth here, but the delivery is a bit airy-fairy for me.
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  1562.  @ericv8868  Yes, but it doesn't make frogs gay and that statement alone should have discredited him for life.
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  1563.  @Nick-ce6lt  Maybe, but he's still a buffoon, and we already have enough of those in this world.
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  1564.  Sean Fisher  Being feminized and being made gay are different things. The estrogen crisis has been around a long time and everyone should be well aware of it. Soy is the biggest culprit but since it's a billion dollar crop in the U.S., it's not going away soon. In fact, they're still trying to put a positive spin on soy. There may be more gay frogs (and humans) today than ever before, but correlation doesn't equal causation. If Jones wanted to do something useful, he'd tell people to never touch a store receipt instead of pointing to things we have very little control over.
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  1565.  Sean Fisher  "Atrazine, one of the world's most widely used pesticides, wreaks havoc with the sex lives of adult male frogs, emasculating three-quarters of them and turning one in 10 into females, according to a new study by University of California, Berkeley, biologists." Why am I doing your homework?
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  1566.  @BarrackObamna  That's NOT gayness. The frogs were literally turned into female frogs. wtf
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  1567. There's a difference between proper moderation and censorship, but nice try.
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  1568. The segment about incels is pretty awful. Substitute working in an animal shelter for sex? Wow. Most guys that talk this way couldn't make it two weeks without getting laid (and have likely never had to). Bad enough that I turned off an otherwise great discussion. No, I'm not an incel. (or black pill or anything of the sort)
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  1569. "...how to make them feel loved." Much easier than actually loving someone.
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  1570.  @benjaminlamptey1867  Common sense, no. Common sense would be to assume you can live your life without useless jackasses trying to dupe you at every turn.
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  1571. Women have far less impulse control than men. In fact, that's a primary reason feminists proposed sleeping around under the guise of "taking control of your sexuality." A mildly clever trick.
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  1572.  @test-zg4hv  Why do you think he's a millionaire? He's too much of a crusader to take time off.
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  1573.  @test-zg4hv  But he's still a crusader at heart and that takes a toll.
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  1574. He's referring to Chernobyl, the most epic cover-up.
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  1575. Did you watch the video?
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  1576.  @marlenegold280  I'm not sure why you're telling all of this. Did you know that a large portion of the population can't synthesize vitamin D from the sun?
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  1577. @@Svenv2-yg6fg I find your comment both repugnant and intriguing.
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  1578. @@Svenv2-yg6fg I honestly try not to think about it.
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  1579. Did he compare black people to dogs?
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  1580. No, JFK couldn't be controlled. Trump is a loose canon, lacking self-control. Big difference.
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  1581. We could always build more meaningful relationships with each other.
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  1582.  @corning1  Philosophy is nothing to be afraid of. Mostly guys in ivory towers pretending to know something about life. At the risk of being stoned, I would recommend starting with Ayn Rand who wrote an essay called, Philosophy: Who Needs It? (there's a video on it here)
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  1583. It's easy to fake warmth. In fact, isn't that exactly what we all do when we meet a stranger? Do we really have any genuine regard for them?
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  1584.  @IllinoisCitizen  The methylated B vitas probably cover that base unless you're taking NMN boosters.
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  1585.  @gkirkbride5565  I take 5 on workout days.
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  1586.  @beniceffs  Pretty sure Trump already had that opportunity and failed.
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  1587. What if everyone drains you?
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  1588.  @donnabaardsen5372  I grew up to be someone who advocates for those who can't advocate for themselves. Goodbye.
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  1589.  @bernardsoul5186  Nope. Windows aren't row-specific or they would be numbered. They don't even line up with the rows. If you can reach it, you have equal rights. (especially if you have child-length arms)
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  1590.  @bernardsoul5186  In fact, you can't "clearly see" any such thing. The window is between the two seats or the kid wouldn't even be able to reach it. Keep trying (and hating on kids).
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  1591. TLDR: "So, if you're trying to train a dog...." That's right. YOU'RE the dog he's trying to train. First of all, when someone's operating within such a narrow band of philosophy and psychology, he should be citing his sources. In this case, Ayn Rand and B. F. Skinner. People deserve to know what they're being fed. Taken on her own, I have no major issue with Ayn Rand. However, Skinner IS problematic on his own, and when combined with Rand we get a pretty awful recipe: objective results are all that matter and the path to them is basically to ignore the black box and treat ourselves like DOGS. Who cares why we do the things we do, as long as those things advance our position in society? Wow. My hope is that even AI will have more nuance and diversity than the material (and advice) being presented here. And I'm disappointed in Tom for buying into most of it. But hey, maybe Alex doesn't even know whose work he's co-opting. Maybe he's simply a guy who's just smart enough for his own good, but both too smart and too dumb for everyone else's (trust me on that). Of course, even if that's true, where should his ten fingers be pointed?
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  1592. Man, I haven't heard that turtle story in years...classic.
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  1593. I found the inane commentary even more jarring.
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  1594.  @redmed10  It's also a good way to take things out of context and remove the organic component of a complete thought or argument.
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  1595. "Many of my best friends are books."
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  1596. Yeah, but it's easy to synthesize care (warmth) and so we end up with a world full of con-men. Better to learn to respect frankness, assertiveness and concision, and to not be intimidated by such things. Better to practice those 3 things as well!
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  1597. The Rebel Wisdom festival dumped me out here. Pretty good talk between these two guys.
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  1598. These guys seem like failed theater majors.
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  1599. ​ @simonerossi6074  What does that even mean?
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  1600. 11:19 "I'm very reluctant to condemn people who are in a position or in a condition such that were I in that position or condition I'm not sure what I would do." This guy's admitting that being held captive could turn him into a vicious monster who murders innocents just to draw attention to his personal cause. This is not a man of stable character grounded in civilized ethics. He is morally weak and unfit for any leadership role. Listen carefully to the words being spoken in these interviews, regardless of what side you're on. Individual accountability is more critical than ever, and anyone who makes an effort to defend the actions of October 7th should be ostracized and cast under suspicion...no matter how nobly they may have served society in the past.
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  1601. You don't need an altered state of consciousness to question the existing power and authority structures. ffs
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  1602. But she needs their votes, no?
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  1603.  @InqvisitorMagnvs  US inflation is 6.7%. There are 56 countries ahead of us.
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  1604.  @InqvisitorMagnvs  My point is that your facts aren't facts.
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  1605.  @InqvisitorMagnvs  Rootin' Putin is da man. Why you gotta play so much.
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  1606.  @loquaciousmomma  Or to build a system that doesn't rely on corporations to take care of us.
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  1607. Vengeance begets vengeance. These companies will straighten up for a time, but then things will slide back to an even worse state than before.
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  1608.  @abundantlove2425  Yeah, good luck.
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  1609.  @amyfu2047  Where do these basic human rights come from? Who decides what they are? Actually, please list them for me if you would.
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  1610. To me, that says more about those people than the alcohol.
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  1611.  @sheastewart7608  Most of these people aren't fessing up to being alcoholics. They're simply vilifying alcohol as if it's something inherently evil. The question here is whether or not someone can be a regular drinker and still be responsible and in control. Barring a genetic predisposition, they certainly can.
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  1612. This is bogus. We are neither deserving nor undeserving of freedom. We must be willing to claim it, work to maintain it, and even fight for it. These cheap religious maneuvers do us a disservice and play no small part in why we fail to appreciate our freedom.
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  1613. So you watched the full video and not just this atrocity, right?
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  1614. I can't wait for the movie, Being Eric Weinstein.
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  1615. More semantic trickery.
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  1616. They've meta'd themselves right into nihilism.
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  1617. Yes, but you still have to understand that it doesn't happen automatically, and recognize when in fact you are NOT a man...and have some sense of how far you have to go.
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  1618.  @GlitchBoy-ws5in  No, the optimist keeps flying the plane even when a crash is imminent.
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  1619.  @GlitchBoy-ws5in  Nope, that's the optimist again!
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  1620. What a very troubled and tormented man looks like.
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  1621.  @zandi3426  I agree with all of your sentiments, but prostitution should still be legal. It's really about women's rights.
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  1622.  @jasonu3741  What about women and children first?
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  1623. Sure, you should pace yourself within your actual workout and not just go straight to max weights, but you should still push your limits if you want to grow. That's the whole point.
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  1624. Zero-sum thinking. Boo.
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  1625. This is terrible. What about the fact that "hotness" is linked to one's social status? What about the fact that a woman has little control over how pretty she is and when she tries to control it (with makeup) she often ends up looking more sexy (slutty?) than pretty? What about the fact that a woman DOES have immediate control over her sexiness (clothes, working out, etc) but that beauty requires time to develop...yet hormones and biological clocks don't tend to wait (not to mention that men are naturally drawn to youthfulness)? When we oversimplify we look like complete asses. Stick to fields you know something about gentlemen.
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  1626. I get their point but the market is DEFINITELY *NOT* always right.
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  1627. I think we can safely say that people with kids are (historically) less likely to be selfish and self-absorbed. That's the central point being made.
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  1628.  @l.w.paradis2108  It sounds like we're in agreement. What did I miss?
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  1629. ​ @l.w.paradis2108  Hmm. The people I know who don't have kids have zero contact with children and no interest whatsoever. I've found that very few people in the world care about ALL children, or really any beyond their own sphere. I'll put it another way: they're likely to be LESS selfish because they simply don't have the option to be fully self-interested unless they're willing to risk accusations of neglect (which some parents are certainly guilty of).
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  1630.  @bobespirit2112  But wouldn't we be better off without the pure democratic elements? Have they not been the ultimate fail that's sinking the ship?
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  1631.  @garrettsmithii7837  That's kind of my thing.
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  1632.  @HotPinkst17  Except that university is becoming a religious institution with a very pointed agenda.
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  1633.  @HotPinkst17  Great! I assume you didn't go to school in Canada or on the American coasts?
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  1634. The problem is, subjective well-being tends to dictate actual well-being. And subjective well-being is of course based almost entirely on the remembering self. Unless we vastly increase our individual self-awareness, the whole debate is moot.
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  1635. The channel that brings it.
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  1636. Joe's changed a lot since this.
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  1637.  @TomBilyeu  Except they really both have the same mindset...zero sum...social darwinism...everybody's out to take what you've got. Sad.
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  1638. I'm challenging her assertion. Forced acceptance isn't acceptance in my book. To put it another way, acceptance is about catching yourself (and ties to self-acceptance). If you've hit bottom, you obviously didn't catch yourself. A person may wake up and face reality for a time, but I wouldn't expect it to last.
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  1639.  @NickPoeschek  But Joe's NOT everyman...and neither is he the vapid hippie pothead that he should be. Instead, he's smart as hell and he's making the rest of us look like the tools that we are. I don't know what the story is behind Spotify, but it doesn't seem like the worst type of selling out. 100M goes a long way toward an underground bunker for your family for when the big storm comes. And the skies are threatening, my friend.
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  1640. She'll be remembered as an American hero, assuming this country survives.
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  1641.  @filmstvandlife8747  What predictions?
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  1642.  @thelvadam5269  You're right, it IS hard to believe. But look up a journalist named Edward Rothstein and his departure from the NYT six years ago. You'll see that the disease had already taken root. He even explains how it all happened in a recent article for Die Zeit. She's not lying.
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  1643.  @Elijah_R  Lol. You're the one who was complaining. Wait, what does culture have to do with it? Who are you even replying to?
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  1644.  @mattstroker  Pretty sure he sold out when he joined the Law and Order cast.
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  1645.  @akht5143  They weren't there before.
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  1646.  @LT_GUAPO  Yeah, I'm going to need more context. Not about to sift through 200+ comments to humor someone who uses emojis like an 8-year old.
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  1647.  @NopeNotTodaySatan  Yes, the boundaries thing is impressive for a young person. I was always the one who said no to getting high, and I don't regret it. But later in life I made sure to at least experiment with it to see if there were benefits. I hope the OP isn't afraid to do so (but I would never encourage it). Ironically, I landed on alcohol as my drug of choice, which I find to be healthier than weed, masturbation or violent video games. My point is that we all have our outlets in a world as tragic as this one, and not every vice is a net negative for every person. Pick the one you can best moderate and don't feel guilty about it.
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  1648.  @mickethegoblin7167  There's a difference between being a drinker and being a "drunk." Some of us rarely ever get to the point of drunkenness.
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  1649.  @whataboutthis10  Only in mass numbers, when things get out of hand. In normal times, social pressure keeps conspiracy nonsense to a minimum.
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  1650. I liked the part about smoking them backwards...and the fig newton bit. wtf
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  1651. I don't know about you guys but I'm content to do something now that's going to make me feel good in 30 years. (even without hard evidence)
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  1652. Exactly. And since you really shouldn't train the same muscles every day, it's just bad advice all around.
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  1653. Ask yourself why a woman would want to have her own separate bank account ?
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  1654.  @phoenixvette  Having a separate bank account is a sign of distrust. It's a lack of true commitment, like hedging a bet. If this is your mindset, just don't get married.
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  1655.  @jenniferbyrne2980  Where I come from, men and women didn't have separate accounts and I don't recall there ever being a problem there. Am I being silly when I talk about being half in, half out...lack of commitment...trust...faith...a true team concept? "The only way out is all in."
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  1656. Don't be so sure. People go off to work long before they have kids, and without knowing the real reasons why.
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  1657. So basically she shares the same ideology.
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  1658.  @Jane-ow7sr  I'll keep it simple. Freedom--however dry of a well to those that know--must be held sacred and not conflated with other concepts. It's only when we choose or express from pure and absolute freedom that we can fall on our faces in our own unique way and grow as such.
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  1659.  @Jane-ow7sr  That sounds exactly backwards to me, and my experience lends no credence to that approach.
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  1660.  @fredericklehoux7160  The hardest thing of all is to love oneself, including when it's time to get selfish. Also, what evidence is there that people want to be integrated?
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  1661.  @bliglum  Yeah, and don't forget about all the culture wars, gender wars, land wars and political wars that are going on. General happiness and morale nearing an all-time low. Drug culture...fetish culture...hedonism culture...all the things that led to Rome's glorious ending! Don't ever kid yourself. There are more people starving today than in all of human history.
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  1662.  @StratumPress  I can tell you that I never want to live in a society where everyone's smart enough to be a Republican. And I AM applauding...the four women in the video.
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  1663.  @vainezaiven6677  Many people evade the consequences of their actions, men most of all. That's why women have been trying to level the field.
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  1664.  @vainezaiven6677  I assume you mean giving WOMEN permission....And I never said it WAS the best way. Nice try though...lose the point and simply reframe the discussion. Maybe nobody else noticed.
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  1665. So basically elitism vs elitism.
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  1666.  @billirons4141  What would you say about it if you could speak?
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