Comments by "" (@ahmeda.3198) on "Ben Gvir boasts of worsening conditions for Palestinian prisoners" video.
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@MartinaNugent-yt8ig I have not even seen the film, but just those clips of the old men smiling fondly about what they did.
It’s seems really no different than the tiktoks of the lunatic IDF that they make today. This is how it’s always been with them, and then they howl about how the problem is with the Palestinian educational system, religion, culture, etc.
The reality is that the Israelis have created this culture of resistance among the Palestinians, and thus all other aspects of social life, religion, education, etc, revolve around resistance. It is the natural reaction of any group after being brutalized, dominated, controlled, and having their rights and land taken.
And of course, this culture of the Palestinians, then feeds into the culture of paranoia, hyper militarism, and victimization of the Israelis.
After Oct 7, one of these Israelis was on TV asking why the tanks had been moved away from the kibbutz. Buddy, if you people think it’s normal to have tanks, helicopters and bazookas guarding your village, then you’ve got much bigger problems with how you’re going about things. Yet for Israelis, this is normal life, and they never question why, except to believe they’re despised for arbitrary reasons.
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This caveman just pointed out why Zionism is such a dangerous ideology, and why people in the west are afraid to criticize it.
Zionism views Israel as the nation state of the Jews, not the nation state of the Israelis.
Every other country in the world is the nation state of its citizens. Israeli is different in the it claims to the nation state of Jews, no matter where on the planet they live, and NOT of its citizens, some of whom are non Jews. This is not just a slogan, but a matter of legal practice, as the non-Jews within Israel have different rights, both the ones within Israel proper, and the ones unfortunate enough to live in the outside territories that either governed by Israel or subtly sabotaged by it.
Accordingly, this man is able to talk about prisoners who he says went after Jews. He doesn’t say these are people who went after Israelis, and it is on the basis of this kind of thinking that Israel supporters deny the people there are despised and resisted because of their actions, and instead it happens simply because they are Jews.
If it were the Chinese, the British, some space aliens from Mars who were doing this to a population, they would also be despised and resisted, but in the toxic Zionist way of thinking, all of this is only happening because they are Jews. Truly a toxic way of thinking.
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@theuncappedneedleyouforgot2664 Well, if I am being fair, their group has had a history of being abused and persecuted. I mean both state sponsored persecution, and random mob persecution. So it is understandable that there is a long of sensitivity among Jews to hostility by outsiders.
Having said that, it seems like the early Zionists capitalized on this, and now this is one of the main undercurrents of Israeli society. For example, I was listening on a YT channel about how much security one has to go through just to get on an airplane and fly into Israel.
What sounds like extreme paranoia to most of us, is just normal for them. Armed soldiers and tanks everywhere, a society which worships the military because of constant fear of attack, and a government which sabotages neighboring countries as a form of preempting any possible attack, etc. It seems like such a crazy way to exist, but this is normal for them.
I think that’s why they don’t understand why the Palestinians despise them, and even how they justify dominating and harming Palestinians, because to them it’s another case of preempting what the perceive is another imminent threat.
It seems everyone and everything is viewed as an imminent threat to them. It’s just a toxic culture, so paranoid, that the mindset becomes ‘a strong offense is the best defense,’ then they go and do sabotage and only become more despised, which then re-enforces the thinking.
The inception of modern day Israel on land that already has people and societies on it, and what they did to those people and societies in order to found their state was just a horrible idea. Not just to the suffering they caused the Palestinians, but even for the kind of idolatry it’s brought about among them: worship of the land, worship of the military, always doing and justifying evil as a way to preempt the latest ‘existential threat,’ etc.
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