Comments by "Ungoogleable o_O" (@oO_ox_O) on "Dawkins on religion: Is religion good or evil? | Head to Head" video.

  1. do I sense the pragmatic argument there? "no matter whether religions are true, they are handy"?
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  2. Tell that to the clerics in e.g. Afghanistan, they will tell one thing, you and others another.
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  3. You didn't correctly reply to any comment so that Youtube would link it. But since your comment doesn't have any content I guess it doesn't matter anyway, still I wonder whether you are unwilling or unable to deal with my reply.
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  4. How is it "self-defeating"? And what does it have to do with whether it's true?
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  5. should have said supremum
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  6. Axioms my friend, you have a set of them that you want to keep as small/simple as possible. An omnipotent (independent thus indeterministic) being that is in control of everything, i.e. one that can manipulate anything arbitrarily is a bigger claim than the universe that has a starting point from where on we can explain it through rules. On top of that one has empirical evidence, the other has by definition none because it can't be falsified (there is nothing you can't explain by omnipotence).
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  7. Now I understand you, you are saying that not everything about religions is bad, well that basically boils down to the pragmatic question: "is religion even if it was false beneficial?", that's a fair discussion to have, esp. if you are not an idealistic believer in the truth. Anyways, if you say coke is not all-bad for you (after all it gives you energy through sugar and is a liquid) does not mean that it's better than no coke.
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  8. > "well shes obviously attacking the religions that most people believe, judaism, islam, christianity." > "in other words she only sees that bad and not the good.no!" "In other words" the ones that not "most people believe" are the "bad" and the rest are "good"?
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  9. natural selection is very well guided, it's guided towards a local maximum
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  10. You feel Odin too, don't you? Come on, don't be a liar, it's Odin you feel.
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  11. > what about the eastern religion where it is a shame to have a female daughter as your first child but a blessing to have a boy I doubt that's really part of their religion, but yeah if it is it certainly is bad too. > most gods say to love and fear them as well! Indeed, Odin is an exceptional example for this. But what makes her deceived in your opinion? Not mentioning that other religions aren't much better?
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  12. Well, the existence of an omnipotent god is certain the more exceptionally claim, so it needs more exceptional evidence, it's not directly about preference but about what explanation is more reasonable (Occam's razor). I am not sure what "chance" you are talking about? If you are talking about hardly deterministic processes then guess what an being in control of everything would fall under.
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  13. These are human traits you attribute to something not human, esp. when it's omnipotent. How can you even talk about "planing" and "thought" when you imagine an omnipotent being? And how would "order" you perceive be less a sign of rules rather than a non-deterministic, omnipotent being? Think about it.
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