Comments by "Wolfs Winkel" (@wolfswinkel8906) on "'Russia is not going to be beaten' | David Owen on how the Ukraine invasion should end" video.

  1. Negotiation is not appeasement. Negotiation requires great wisdom, sadly it's in short supply among Europeans and Americans nowadays.
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  2. If Milosevic had nuclear weapons NATO wouldn't have invaded Serbia.
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  3.  @harlequingnoll5  long before any pieces of Ukraine were in the conversation, long before any part of Ukraine was invaded or blood was shed, negotiations were still as simple as "not an inch eastward". Failure to negotiate has brought us here, failure to negotiate will lead to even more suffering.
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  4.  @waltslogos2842  negotiate the boundaries of NATO expansion, considering the fact that NATO is Russia's Cold War adversary. It's that simple.
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  5. 7 months later and here we are. The next offer will be even worse. In 2014 Ukraine could keep the Crimea, if they would follow the power transfer agreement with Yanukovich. They chose to violate their own Constitution and remove President Yanukovich from the office. Then they lost Crimea as a result. In 2015 Ukraine signed the Minsk agreement. They lost Crimea, but could keep Donetsk and Lugansk as part of Ukraine, granting them some level of autonomy. In 2022 they Zelensky decided to abandon Minsk agreement, losing Donetsk and Lugansk as a result. They had the chance to stop it here, following the Istanbul agreement. But decided to continue the war. As a result they lost part of Zaporozhye and Kherson regions. Plus they lost about 400,000 men KIA and millions, who fled the country. Next iteration will be worse. Ukraine is doomed. They have no industry, workforce, resources to rebuild the country. Even, if they reclaim their territory (which is impossible), nobody will stay there as soon as they open a border. They won't be able to recover.
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  6.  @waltslogos2842  you will understand, soon enough.
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  7. Pardon me, where is Putin going and who's taking him there? Lol
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