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Wolfs Winkel
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Comments by "Wolfs Winkel" (@wolfswinkel8906) on "Do Russians allow Finland to join NATO?" video.
NATO stopped being a defensive organisation when it failed to disband after the USSR disbanded. It accomplished it's mission, and then became an offensive military alliance expanding in peacetime, invading other countries like Serbia and Iraq, growing an unstoppable hegemony.
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1:25 "if the citizens of Finland support it" well they don't. Niinisto famously said in April 2022 "NATO referendum is no longer necessary". This was a fiat political decision by the ruling class, just like most countries that joined NATO after 1999.
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@Kinsman19 and who conducted the poll you just referenced, and on what date? Avoid spreading disinformation.
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Daniil asks trolling questions with ulterior motives.
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@danzoom in Finland's case, as well as with most of the other countries that joined NATO after 1999, the decision to join NATO was a fiat political action made exclusively by their ruling classes. In April 2022 Finnish president Niinisto famously said, "the referendum to join NATO is no longer necessary". You're technically right that nobody forced Niinisto into doing this, but it was not a sovereign national citizens collective decision.
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@scandinavianstacker8485 I've not been able to verify your claim because you gave no names and coordinates, but now that Finland is a member of NATO, I believe those bases (if they exist) are going to be expanded, fortified and equipped with nuclear strike deterrents. That's the real "pushing" that Finland should "fear then" according to the words of Joe.
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@rutgerb Bakhmut is lost, and the fundamentals human rights to self determination of eastern Ukraine guaranteed by the international charter of the United Nations will be enforced. Deal with it Rootgerm.
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@Marque734 More than half of respondents, 53 percent, polled by Taloustutkimus for YLE believe that Finland should not become a member of NATO. Only 19 percent of respondents said yes to Finnish membership in the alliance. This figure has fallen noticeably compared to corresponding polls in 2015 and 2014. When asked if Sweden were to join NATO would they back Finland also taking up membership, 30 percent said yes. On the other hand, 50 percent believe that Finland should remain outside NATO, even if Sweden joins. Date: 13-12-2017; source: YLE. Now respond with your source.
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@TFactory the West ignores protests that don't fit their narratives. It's not new at all. The Germans and French for example will tell you the are no protests against NATO, but a quick Google search will reveal several over the course of the year. Different countries have their mechanisms for isolating and smothering anti government demonstrations.
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@pacmanc8103 okay, now how about another response from someone who can actually string words together to form an intelligent sentence?
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But Russia is not pushing anything to Finland.
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@scandinavianstacker8485 "modern stuff is in Ukraine". This sounds familiar. "Ruzzia is running out of cruise missiles" "Their artillery barrels are getting worn out" "Their economy is totaled, the ruble is turned to rubble " "Putin has Alzheimer's" Baseless speculation designed to underestimate Russia's abilities by media "experts" proven woefully wrong one year later. I don't argue with people who "know it all". Time will tell.
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Like ants they flock to me, in righteous indignation for challenging their perfectly concocted delusions.
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@finn7208 and where is your source proving 80% of Finns wanted this in 2023 despite no polls or referenda held to confirm this? Are we supposed to believe you simply because you call yourself "Finn"? Lol.
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@Lambanderos so you, who provides no sources, are telling me to avoid spreading disinformation, after I provided verifiable sources. The joke writes itself.
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@Lambanderos huh?? You're first and only response to me was to stop spreading disinformation. Nowhere in that comment did you add this "updated source". I'm looking at YLE right now and there was no poll conducted on 9.5.2022. why are you lying?
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@pacmanc8103 you must think I'm jobless enough to respond immediately to every empty headed trash you are paid to post.
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Like ants they flock to me still, determined to extract some pound of flesh for exposing the duplicity of their "value systems".
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