Comments by "nuqwestr" (@nuqwestr) on "Thousands told to abandon Los Angeles homes as three wildfires rip through suburbs | BBC News" video.

  1. They do clear brush every year, you'd have to drive the hills in the area on the coast to understand why that can only work to some degree. This stuff is dense, and when it goes up, fire balls of embers are taken up in the high wind and burn home even with good clearance.
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  2. Or Sudan
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  3. I grew up in that area, my cousin went to the high school that burned down. majority of those homes were small, built in the boom of the 1950s, early 1960s, stucco and wood, up in canyons with lush high brush, easy to burn. A mobile home park also burned down, not all rich and famous.
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  4. she's much further north in Montecito, they burned a couple of years ago, flooded, too.
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  5. These are not mountains in Pacific Palisades, coastal hills, and majority of these homes were built in the fast boom of the 1950s, early 1960s, small modest and inexpensive at the time. Even a 1950s trailer home park burned down.
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  6.  @Hydeperformance66  false, that's nonsense.
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  7.  @joysboy6588  I live and grew up in the area, not the first time homes along Pacific Coast Highway burned to the Piers they are built on. These structures on wooden piers are made of wood, the old ones quite flimsy, easy to burn.
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  8. Not unusual, houses along Malibu beach have been burned down more than once.
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  9. not uncommon for us, but understand the confusion of an outsider.
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  10. No all, I grew up in that area, my cousins high school burned down, a trailer park burned down, and small homes of old people burned down.
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  11. Winds normally come in the fall with high temps, this was a late wind storm with moderate temps. We are NOT in a severe drought as someone said in the comments, we are having year-round events because of the increase in population and building homes further up into these canyons. Los Angeles County has 9 million people, larger than some European Countries.
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  12.  @dhootparm  Yep, my Dad purchased in 1958 a mid-century 1100 sg ft house up the canyon for $25K, the land alone is now worth $1.5 million. A lot of the homes are tear downs, ready for fix/flip developers.
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  13. The are burned before humans arrived, many native plants require fire and wind to propagate.
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  14. they did pull out, came back and raised the rates.
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  15. Our Public Broadcasting system here in the US pays for the BBC feed, we see it for free, you pay a license.
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  16. I live in the area, the fires started just before the high winds hit, my first thought was arson because the temps were low. They closed Topanga Canyon even before the winds started.
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  17. Nonsense, not how it works. I also live in the area, the Feed Barn at PCH and Topanga burned down. a land mark since I was a kid in the 1960s. I voted for Trump, and your TDS is showing.
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  18. I lived in WH in 1960s/70s, in tract behind El Camino Shopping Center (Heaven Ave), in 1970 we evacuated animals from Hidden Hills to our backyard. Jim Morrison wrote a song about that year's fire season. It started in North Valley and burned all they way to beach in Malibu.
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  19. more like 100kph, they grossly exaggerate since winds that high are not sustained and only occur in outlying areas. Not uncommon for us to get 60-70mph winds in the Fall, but not common for Winter.
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  20. ? What, that's how Arlo Guthrie pronounced it in the song, and his father once lived in Topanga Canyon with Will Geer ? "Coming into Los-an-gel-iss, carrying a couple of keys".
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  21.  @duvalleo  My Scottish girlfriend would slap me every time I said it wrong, then she did DNA test and turned out while a Ferguson, she was really German. Now I understand the origin of the "slap".
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  22. The ocean channel off the Pacific Palisades is rich in oil deposits, all the way to Santa Barbara. Yes, let's drill to remain safe and secure within our traditional borders. I'm all for it. I live a few blocks away from offshore oil rigs, have for 30 years, all good.
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  23. ? I've been here in this part of SoCal for 70 years, this is a common burn area ?
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  24. not unusual for us, but usually in the fall, winds late this season.
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  25.  @devanman7920  False, Los Angeles is not in a desert, that documentary was biased and wants you to believe capitalism is bad, We've had fires all my life here, 70 years. The San Fernando Valley was known as "The Valley of Smoke" to the native population. Some plants evolved here to propagate seeds by fire and wind, and the place has been burning since before humans arrived. We've had a wet few years which created more growth, not less, funny for a "desert", not you think?
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  26.  @devanman7920  There's a technical drought map of California. My area in SoCal is listed as O1 "Moderate Drought" but not severe, and it just fell into that category because of low precipitation in November. It's also been abnormally cold and foggy on the coast where I live. The only "climate change" that has any effect is ENSO. We just transitioned from El Nino to La Nina. The term "Santa Ana Winds" goes back to 1886.
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  27. houses built in the boom time of the 1950s early 1960s, wood and stucco. that's what we had.
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  28. The brush is not dry, it is not dead, and many of these plants depend on fire and wind to propagate. The embers are carried high in high winds and drive fire even in places properly cleared. I know the area, grew-up there, we have code that requires brush clearance, an event like this, perhaps even started by arson, can only be mitigated by building materials, not brush clearance. That's just not enough.
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  29. someone on this thread already did. Newsom was on scene, he's got a lot of donors in them hills.
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  30. step off
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  31. Trump does respond to "climate change" and why he wants Greenland. I was born and raised in this fire area, it's normal, and has been since before humans arrived. There are plants in California that depend on fire and wind to propagate. I live a few blocks from the Beach, we've had the coldest, wettest year I can remember in 30 years. True for the entire 900 mile coast of California.
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  32.  @rafd3593  you believe him when you want to and say he's lying when you want to. Trump says the "climate crisis" is a money grift and it is. No question humans have impact but the methods of mitigation at this point are bogus, that' is what Trump is saying.
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  33.  @rafd3593  False our rainy season is February to April with Santa Ana winds blowing September to November. I've lived here since the 1950s. I live at the beach, we've had dense fog for the last several months and high moisture from atmospheric rivers to the north which also brought high waves. Easy to fact check. Our WEATHER oscillates with ENSO and has for 10,000 years. The term "Santa Ana Winds" was coined in 1886. The chaparral and grasses evolved to propagate during fire and wind events and the Native Tongva called the area "Valley of the Smoke". All easy to fact check. All predates the "climate crisis". The beach I surf at has the same mean tide line since 1965. You have both TDS and the "climate crisis" mind virus. Check out Bjorn Lomborg Copenhagen Consensus Center.
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  34. False, go play with yourself, not us.
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  35. remember the sudense
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  36. majority of the homes built in the canyons of Pacific Palisades were 1950s/early1960s boom time, we did the best we could with the expanding population. I grew up in the area, this can be greatly mitigated by code and materials.
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  37. I somewhat agree, as I grew up in the area burned. Not the first time, the canyons have a lot of brush and we get high winds each year, this time a little late. Many of the homes in Pacific Palisades were built in the boom of the 1050s and early 1960s, stucco and wood. Easy to catch fire. New codes are a help, but the embers driven by 30-mph winds are brutal.
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  38. false, we've been getting fires here for decades, even the native tribes talked about fires, and many plants here require fire and wind to propagate. nothing to do with a mythical "climate change", it hasn't.
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  39. No, those seniors in Alta Dena senior center were not rich, not by a long shot. You have an anti-Capitalist delusion.
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  40. or Syria by Syrians.
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  41. We also have flooding and snow here in California. Happens every year.
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  42. Like the nakbah, a self-inflicted holocaust building wooden homes in canyons full of flammable materials.
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