Comments by "nuqwestr" (@nuqwestr) on "Top US judges signal support for abortion limits – BBC News" video.

I am not religious, have no issue with women having the power of life and death, just don't call the unborn a "health issue". I live in California, our state should vote on it, our courts should only decide whether our choice is constitutional or not, that's how it is supposed to work. Our legal system may have been based on English law, but we made it better, if only as Franklin said, can keep it that way.
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Gary Lee What's the difference? What does the science say, since you quote a scientific term?
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Or those Red SUVs at Xmas Parades, or vans full of explosives next to office buildings, or in in the UK. a steak knife. It's not the guns, never has been.
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@rosedudesert4389 Curtis Means was delivered at 21 weeks, which is a little less than 5 months, that's the best outcome so far, we can do better, and will. Curtis weight 420 grams at birth, and is now 16 months old. Are you saying his consciousness did not form until he was delivered? Wow, less than a pound of cell tissue, think about that!
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Limits have always been in place as ROE had "viability" as limiting standard, then another decision by the court "Casey", added "undue burden", in American terms, this is not settled law. American States need to go to voters, not the courts, for a decision on the morality of abortion. I have no issue with women having the power of life and death, but just don't call the unborn a "health issue" it is so much more than that.
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Ah, you are not alone, "lying" is too kind, it's a culture war, for sure. One of the lies before Roe was the number of deaths from back-street abortions, a number totally fabricated. Undue burden for sure, crazy hoops to just through was just political street theater. Both extremes push out any rigorous discussion of a fundamentally moral issue that is foundationally to civil culture. Abortion is so much more than a medical or religious issue, but involves the consciousness of three living beings. I don't know what consciousness is or when it begins, do you?
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@nightprowler6336 No, that would be incorrect, quite the opposite, the rich take advantage of other preventative measures, the poor do not.
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@AkiseAk Ethics? The don't call it a "health issue, but perhaps justifiable homicide, which puts the act on a clear ethical foundation. If you murder a pregnant woman, you are charged with two deaths. We should be consistent.
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@rosedudesert4389 Not settled, 50 years on it is still up for debate. Sometimes it is "health" related for both lives, no question, but not in every case. Do you distinguish between physical health and mental health? Or do you value them the same? What about the mental health of the father?
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@dominickskinner407 Nonsense, it's a Republic, not a pure democracy, never has been, and I hope it never will be. A pure democracy would indeed be a dictatorship of the majority.
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Gary Lee Hum, your definition does not comply with either the law or science. Why is the U.S. if you kill a pregnant women you are guilty of a double homicide?
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@rosedudesert4389 The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."
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@repentofsins9064 MARK 7:6
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Ruth Bader Ginsburg did not think ROE was the correct decision. "On Privacy and Equality; Judge Ginsburg Still Voices Strong Doubts on Rationale Behind Roe v. Wade Ruling" - search on that, BBC is not telling you a full story, just the one they want you to believe.
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@hatchingdraggon8073 Hum, have been involved in dem politics in California since 1972 when I helped run a McGovern campaign office. Big cities are controlled to a large measure by unions like SEIU, Teachers, and State bureaucrats educated in the propaganda mills in the last 30 years. "Wealthy"? Money buys campaign ads, but does not buy as many votes as you may think.
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@ProfX501 I agree, there are health issues involved, for both consciousnesses, but it is always so much more, and why we are talking about it.
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@E-nh9qw 7.5 weeks for pain receptors and avoidance. Science is not settled on this, so error on the side of life.
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@Nasherrrzzz Not true, and was not true in 1973. If you research "back-alley abortion" deaths pre ROE, you will find the numbers were faked.
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@TheMogregory Then you value money over life?
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@rosedudesert4389 Those numbers were faked. There's excellent scholarship on that fact, search it out. No one advocates for that outcome, regardless.
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@rosedudesert4389 Thank you, I believe we disagree, as a male, being a father is certainly a mental health issue, you are incorrect.
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@rosedudesert4389 Anecdotal, the pro-abortionists then and now say as many as 5,000 died each year from back-alley abortions, this turned out to be a "guess" from 1942. After anti-biotics the actual number was perhaps in the two-hundreds. We need perspective and facts, not stories and emotion. Abortion is a medical procedure, of course, and is sometimes indicated, but should be called what it is, murder, as it ends a life. If you kill a pregnant woman, you are charged with a double homicide, our laws should be consistent.
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@rosedudesert4389 Exactly, and in America, which is a republic of different sovereign States, the issue should be decided at State level. That's what the court is deciding on, not abortion.
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@zainzoala1083 Huh, the "World"? Like, where?
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