Comments by "nuqwestr" (@nuqwestr) on "Socrates, Jesus, and the Fall of Rome | Dr. John Vervaeke" video.

Phew! That analysis defies the obvious parallels between the myths of both Egypt and Mesopotamia in the Jewish Pentateuch, especially those of Babylon, where Hebrews were enslaved for almost 100 years around 585 BCE. The myths involving "SACRIFICE" and "BLOOD" predate Greco-Roman culture, and are the basis of Judeo-Christian belief. So, Christ being the "Lamb of G_D" is due to Plato? Are you saying Jesus was Greek, or read Plato?
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@Μαρίαπ-μ8β ? Are you saying Islam didn't maintain these libraries, too? Venice, too, grew out of the 5/6th invasions from the North and maintained knowledge of that period.
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Rome became the maritime and economic power we now call Venice "The origin of Venice dates back to the 5th century AD, when people fleeing from invasions (notably from the Huns and later the Lombards) sought refuge in the marshy islands of the Venetian Lagoon. These islands provided a natural defense against attackers, allowing communities to develop. By the 9th century, Venice had emerged as a prominent trading city, known for its maritime power and as a hub for trade between Europe and the East." - ChatGPT
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@jacquedegatineau9037 NT "1st hand", wow. Even the Christian scholars know the stories were never written down until almost 100 years later. Where are Paul's letters today? He never met Jesus.
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@jacquedegatineau9037 Josephus lived to 60-62, born 37 AD, so he wrote 60-70 years after life of Christ.
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@Μαρίαπ-μ8β Islam played a crucial role in preserving and transmitting Greek philosophy, particularly during the medieval period. n the early Islamic Golden Age (8th to 13th centuries), scholars in the Abbasid Caliphate, especially in Baghdad, translated many Greek philosophical texts from Greek into Arabic. Notable figures like Al-Kindi, Al-Farabi, and Ibn Rushd (Averroes) were instrumental in this process.
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“Lost Years of Jesus” by Nicolas Notovitch in the late 19th century, claims he traveled to India during the period between age 12 and 30 which is a timeframe missing from the New Testament.
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@Μαρίαπ-μ8β There not "many", which is a gross overstatement. There is no physical evidence of Jesus, no direct writing, even the Dead Sea Scrolls are not contemporary to the time of Jesus. There is no contemporaneous documentation for Jesus.
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@scottmcloughlin4371 Sure, what a chauvinistic thing to say. I listed the translators, they were Arabs, not Greeks. Both did translations. Are you saying that's not possible? The early church banned much of Greek philosophy, and later Islam did the same. I'm 69 years old, my knowledge and experience predates the internet.
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Also: "The theory that the Flavian dynasty, consisting of emperors Vespasian, Titus, and Domitian, wrote the New Testament is called the "Flavian authorship theory" and is most prominently presented in the book "Caesar's Messiah" by Joseph Atwill, which argues that the Gospels were written to legitimize Roman rule by portraying Jesus as a messianic figure controlled by the Flavian family, particularly in the aftermath of the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD." AI genearted.
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? Socrates left no physical evidence of his work, but was recorded only by students like Plato. It's all 2nd and 3rd hand, like much of the new testament.
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@jacquedegatineau9037 Sure Saul/Paul on the road to Damascus, or an epileptic fit. "Text Themselves"? Are you saying they were recorded in the 1st person? The Jew turned Roman, Josephus, non-Christian writes about Jesus, but even that is almost 100 years later. I think of how people today describe events like 9/11 and George Floyd and understand how the "recollections" go awry. I like the canon, it's a repository of human cognition over a couple of millennia, quite valuable, but they are "Good News" stories, and like the media today, cannot be taken literally.
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@jacquedegatineau9037 Josephus born 37 AD, he lived through the 2nd Temple destruction. If you count AD beginning at birth of Jesus, and death around 33, I'd agree. He was a general in the Galilee about 30 years after the crucifix ion, I'd think then he'd know much more than the small bits he wrote about 50 years later.
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Stoics like Diogenes the masturbator led us to Christianity?
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"Rome Conquered"?
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@yakncast7530 Some Jews write "G-d" instead of "God" as a sign of respect and to avoid erasing or destroying God's name. This custom is based on an interpretation of the commandment in Deuteronomy 12:3-4, which prohibits the destruction of pagan altars. The Torah states that God's name should not be erased, destroyed, or desecrated.
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@yakncast7530 Again, others have a different way to define G_d "“In the beginning there was the Word, and the Word was with G_d, and the Word was G_d” The Greek word logos is translated as “the Word” Logos is a Noun.
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@Skaoutis Yes, I'd agree, some writers and translators of what was edited down and included in the current canon of the "Gospels" may very well have been influenced by Plato, but also Aristotle and Greek Myth, which certainly influenced the Gospel of Luke. There were any number of Hellenistic Jews at the time of Christ. Paul may, too, have been one of them.
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@yakncast7530 I'm a 3rd generation American born in California, which in the 1960s had the finest elementary school system in the world. "The Word" is G_d, G_d is the LOGOS, Logos is a Noun. Easy to check the dictionary, something I still own, but it's online, too.
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@yakncast7530 Proper nouns are often capitalized based on context. The word Cancer and cancer will be capitalized based on context and meaning. For you, god is not a noun, but for others, G_d is a noun.
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@yakncast7530 G_d is also a title, like "The Big Bang", so capitalized.
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@Skaoutis Yes, lots of scholarship over more than 1,000 years on the "Good News", much conjecture. The copying, over and over again, also produced many variations which scholars convene and write books about. Scholars like Bruce Metzger and Bart Ehrman have documented numerous textual variants in biblical manuscripts. and the differences which arise from copyist errors, regional dialects, and theological motivations. What happened to the library of Alexandria? I believe the Christian Theodosius had a hand in its eventual destruction sometime in the 4th century, a few decades after the Council of Nicaea set out the creed/dogma which had the force of civil law. The Creed became a State sponsored religion. That had more effect on text than anything Paul may have written as a Hellenistic Jew. Some say there are letters attributed to Paul and not his. Muslims love to bang on about the Bible's lack of authority since it is full of contraction and not first hand. Muslims also believe Christ did not die on the cross, shed blood, or saved anyone from sin. It is written.
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