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Comments by "nuqwestr" (@nuqwestr) on "Islam and the Possibility of Peace | Mohammed Hijab | EP 209" video.
JBP was just polite enough not to challenge some of the grossly incorrect statements. My favorite being that Germany did not pose a threat to the U.S., when the fact is Hitler declared war on the U.S., not the other way around. That canard is a favorite of anti-Semites all over the world, and very reveling of Hijab's true agenda.
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I am certain in an Islamic State, I would be a 2nd Class Citizen and would be forced to struggle for my individual sovereignty. I don't see Classic Liberalism and Islam coexisting, not at all.
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@Jack Lo German ships were off the East Coast of the U.S. sinking ships, and in the Caribbean. Plans were being made for airstrips in West Africa so bombers could be flown to South America. The Luftwaffe had plans for a bomber that could strike NYC. US Citizens were killed by German Uboats before Hitler declared war on the U.S. Hijab's statement, and yours, are incorrect, and grossly offensive, often used by anti-Semites who follow-up and state it was the Jews who convinced FDR to enter the war. FACTCHECK: It was the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec 7th, and the subsequent declaration by Germany and the Axis of war on the U.S. which got FDR's attention, not the "Jews".
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I am certain in an Islamic State, I would be a 2nd Class Citizen and would be forced to struggle for my individual sovereignty. I don't see Classic Liberalism and Islam coexisting, not at all.
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Germany declared war on the U.S, December 11, 1941, on Hitler's order. Mohammed Hijab's statement that the U.S. was under no threat is factually incorrect, and grossly offensive. His use of the term "colonialization" is very revealing, and consistent with the Marxist pedagogy that insinuated itself into the middle-east after WWII. I've been listening to this garbage for going on 50 years. No mare.
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@Dddddgjy "even Jews"? What do you mean by that?
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@AC-mp7cx Germany issued a DECLARATION OF WAR on Dec 11, 1941 and began sinking American ships off the coast of the United States, from New Jersey to Florida. The more you deny and rationalize Hijib's false statement of fact, the more I am sure of a lack of sincerity. U.S. Merchant Marines suffered the highest casualty ratio of the war, with more ships sunk off the coast of the U.S than anywhere else. Almost 10,000 merchant marines lost their lives in the Atlantic by German U-Boats, most sunk within sight of the U.S. Those facts are easily available, just a few keystrokes away.
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@AC-mp7cx September 3, 1939: the passenger liner Athenia is torpedoed, killing the first Canadian of the war, stewardess Hannah Baird of Quebec. September 10, 1939: Canada declares war on Germany - the first and only time Canada has declared war on another country on its own. With Canada in the war, no question America was facing a direct threat and many Americans were in fear for their lives.
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@AC-mp7cx Hitler's OPERATION DRUMBEAT a direct threat and in operation before war was declared, which threatened the East Coast of the U.S., from New Jersey to Florida, and America had no defense, it was easy pickings for German U-Boats. Again, facts easily obtained with a few keystrokes.
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@pennyhardaway7491 Thanks, I get that, been pushing back for some time, and it should be done, and often. I know what it's like to be an ethnic Chinese in Malaysia these days, so we need to push back. Their idea there's no "2nd class" in an Islamic State is factually and demonstrably false, and needs to be called out.
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@Ahmed-be5en "introduced"? you mean "reintroduced", don't you? Or are you saying Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle were people of Islam?
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Hitler declared war on the U.S. A misstatement by Hijab saying Germany was no threat. Where is the correction? Where is the "humility", deeds, not words.
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@EbrahimSJT Yes, but in all that being true, there is forgiveness and redemption, even for those who defecate.
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@Dddddgjy I've made no statements about any religion other than to say Classical Liberalism cannot exist with Traditional Islam, and Hijab was incorrect in stating U.S. not directly threatened by Germany in WWII. My consciousness is not dependent on your interpretation of G_d, nor should any religion be in a position to supersede civil reality by claiming to know G_ds plan for me. You may be solicitous now, but history tells us you will not be, later. There's an ancient fable about the Farmer and the Snake, worth seeking out, or read the lyrics to Oscar Brown Jr's Snake Song.
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@Jack Lo I'd also add there was precedent to Germany's direct threat to the U.S. which occurred during WWI, that's in the Zimmerman telegram which motivated Woodrow Wilson to enter the first war against Germany. "No Real Threat", tell that to the Soviets who made a "pact" with the Germans, which I believe was "broken". Read Mein Kampf. "No Real Threat". Germany declared war on the U.S. Do you understand that as a FACT?
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@AC-mp7cx 5 weeks before declaration, 100 U.S. Citizens dead: "From the Tribune-Sun, Friday, Oct. 31, 1941: AMERICAN WARSHIP SUNK BY TORPEDO; FAILS TO BRING BREAK WITH GERMANY" Even with that provocation, FDR did not declare war until Germany did.
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@AC-mp7cx Read, this airplane was in the works prior to declaration of war. Messerschmitt Me 264, long range bomber to satisfy Hitler's dream of seeing NYC in flames, as stated by Albert Speer in his memoir of the war.
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@AC-mp7cx "Hitler's enthusiasm for striking at New York. In 1937, during a visit to the factories of the Messerschmitt aircraft company in the southern German city of Augsburg, Hitler was presented with the prototype of a four-engine long-range bomber, the Messerschmitt Me 264, which was being designed to be able to reach America's East Coast from Europe". - der Spiegel.
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@Jack Lo "Hitler's enthusiasm for striking at New York. In 1937, during a visit to the factories of the Messerschmitt aircraft company in the southern German city of Augsburg, Hitler was presented with the prototype of a four-engine long-range bomber, the Messerschmitt Me 264, which was being designed to be able to reach America's East Coast from Europe". - der Spiegel.
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Kakashi Hatake And El Cid played both sides against the middle, as it always is, because no side has the actual moral high-ground, that's the greatest "myth" of all.
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Rome gave Jews the same rights 1,000 years before Islam. 57:29 - You can still visit the Jewish neighborhood in Rome on the right bank of the Tiber, where Jews have lived for more than 2,000 years.
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@NeoLegendX Which Jewish scholars admit what? Hijab stated Germany was not a threat to the U.S. Do you concur with that statement?
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@NeoLegendX I'm exploring your point of view, and if you concur with Hajib on history, this would be very informative to any discussion. Was Truman a "Warlord" who conquered and colonized? I did not say Jews had the same rights as "Romans", but had rights conferred which allowed them to have schools and live under their laws, with some exceptions when they were expelled, but came back. Julius Caesar himself made law that allowed it.
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@skyinuri8868 JBP could have easily challenged Hijab statements on history but did not do it out of polities and humility, something I did not see much in Hijab's statements and responses. But Hijab is young, only married a short-time, and may grow into more knowledge as he matures.
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@antiquesmore7083 My concept of 2nd class citizenship is not nonsense, you're saying it is demonstrates proof of my statement. My individual sovereignty would not be recognized as it is in a Classic Liberal framework.
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@aporiac1960 If he did, I would respect him as truthful. As it is, I don't believe he would, at least not until Islam gained majority in the U.S.
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