Comments by "nuqwestr" (@nuqwestr) on "Historic Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem Facing Demolition in Luxury Hotel Dispute" video.

  1. During the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, Armenian Quarter housed Armenian refugees from all over Palestine. An Armenian civil guard, armed with "makeshift weapons", was formed to defend the quarter from the Haganah shelling of the Old City. More than forty Armenians were killed in the fighting.
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  2. "Church leaders made a contract for the lease but pressure on the church to cancel the deal increased when Jordan and the Palestinian Authority withdrew their recognition of Patriarch Manougian in May." - al-Jazeera.
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  3.  @prophetrexlexful8783  how do you "demolish" a parking lot?
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  4. According to the 1905 Ottoman census in the Old City, the Armenian Quarter had a population of 382, of which Armenians (121) comprised less than one-third (31.7%). Jews (127) made up 33.2%, other Christians (94) 24.6% and Muslims (40) 10.5%.
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  5.  @mirjahmlinen2698  There are 5 houses to demolish, so agreed, nowever, the Hotel would provide more access to the Quarter, not less. I researched this, and the contract was made with the highest religious authority in the Armenian Quarter. The PA and Jordan revoked this authority in response, so the Church then cancelled the contract. Muslims stepped in to restrict access, not Israel.
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  6. The Church made a contract, Israel was not involved.
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  7. Chuck, love your other coverage, but you are wrong on this one. No question some Jews want access to Temple Mount without crossing Christian/Muslim controlled land. Ask yourself Why?
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  8. The Armenian Church made this contract and only cancelled due to pressure from Jordan and Palestinian Authority.
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  9. Armenians picked up arms with Arabs in 1948 to kill Jews, they are still proud of it. There's a difference between Armenians who fled the Turks and those who were already there and spoke Arabic. Learn the history.
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  10. it's a parking lot, and Israel has preserved history.,
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  11.  @mirjahmlinen2698  look at a map
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  12.  bogjesrbin484  why is a hotel "absurd"? have you seen the plans? The Armenian Authority in the Quarter agreed to the lease, it was only when Jordan and the PA stepped in did they cancel?
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  13.  bogjesrbin484  logical fallacies like that have not worked for over 100 years. Read this, it's online in the original. Report on the State of Palestine presented to the Right Honourable Mr. Winston Churchill P.C., M.P. by the Executive Committee of the Third Arab Palestine Congress. Jerusalem, March 28, 1921.
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  14. During the Jordanian rule of eastern Jerusalem (1948–67), no Jews were allowed to live in the Old City.
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  15. You can easily become "versed", and learn there are two distinct groups of Armenians, ones that fled the Turks and spoke Turkish, and the older group which spoke and dressed Arabic. The did not mix easily, but both picked up arms against the Jews in 1948.
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  16.  @FollowtheLightDirection  I only recently learned of this history myself, and that the 1905 census done by the Ottomans shows there were more Jews than Armenians in the Quarter. The population increased massively after the Ottoman genocide, then the Soviets repatriated most of those Armenians after 1950. Those who live outside the bounds of the Armenian church in the Quarter are small in number, and most have Jordanian citizenship. The leaders of the Quarter made the contract with a firm in Australia, the hotel would have allowed more Armenians to visit the Quarter. The story told here is not good or true.
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  17.  @mirjahmlinen2698  During the Jordanian occupation from 1948 to 1967 religious Jews did not have access to holy sites, not the first time Jews have been restricted, so Why? Never again.
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  18.  @mirjahmlinen2698  Look at a map
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  19. @user-jj5mp7ib1f Taqiyya, habibi. Of course, HE's A JEW!
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  20. @user-jj5mp7ib1f No, I referenced Manougian, it was Father Baret Yeretzian who was defrocked, and only one of three who signed the contract. As I said, "Taqiyya, habbi.".
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  21. @user-jj5mp7ib1f "Father Yeretzian: I always told the patriarch; that you should have a good relationship with the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan because they are the protectors of the holy places. And furthermore, they are the ones who issue the Ferman (official sovereign order)" Yes, poor defrocked Fr, submitting to the law of Dhimmi, the true apartheid law in the region. Hashemites, always the tool of the West, traitor to both Mecca and Medina, now better served by the House of Saud.
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  22. @user-jj5mp7ib1f It was a lease, not a sale, or the lie of removal by the point of a gun. It would have provided more tourism for the area, benefiting the Armenian Christians who live under the law of Dhimmi in Jordan and the West Bank.
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  23. It's a parking lot.
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  24.  bogjesrbin484  2nd biggest ally? LOL. No question Armenian's in the Quarter fought against Israel in 1948 and some still hold Jordanian citizenship. Conflict.
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  25.  bogjesrbin484  21% of Israeli citizens are Arab.
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  26.  bogjesrbin484  Which group, there are only few left in the old quarter, some are ancient, some from time of Ottoman genocide, in either case, the current head of the quarter signed an agreement then canceled it under pressure from Jordan and the PA.
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  27. it's a parking lot
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  28. @@user-jj5mp7ib1f Facts are not offensive, the truth is not an explanation, it is a method of understanding. Taqiyya is only furthering the pain and suffering of the people who claim it as a religious right.
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  29. Armenians from before 1947 have Jordanian citizenship and many oppose the governance of Israel over Jerusalem, as they ally of Palestinians.
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  30. it's a parking lot, and it was Christians who colonized the Temple Mount.
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  31.  @Rockster-q1m  95% Sephardic is nonsense, the Umayyad Dynasty took Christian wifes from the north, Abd al-Rahman III had reddish blonde hair and blue eyes, forced to dye his beard black to look more Arab. The Alhambra Decree of March 31, 1492 not only kept Jews out of the New World, but conversos, too. Even 3rd generation conversos like those who accompanied Pizzaro required attestation they were not formerly Jews. In 1569, Philip II, king of Spain, issued the decree that ordered the establishment of the Inquisition in South America, Jews and crypto-Jews were hunted down. Some claim both Pizarro and Cortes as Crypto-Jews, too. No doubt Sephardic Jewish blood flowed to the New World, and DNA evidence has turned up as far north as Denver, CO., but 95%? Many Ashkenazi Jews arrived in Brazil during the period of Dutch Protestant rule in the early 1600s, setting up in Recife the first synagogue in the Americas, the Kahal Zur Israel Synagogue, as early as 1636, but the Dutch were run out by the Portuguese in 1654 and the Jews had to either hide again, or leave. By 1750, out of 2,500 Jews in the American Colonies, the majority was Ashkenazi. They were Yiddish-speaking Jews from Holland, Germany, Poland and England. The first United States Ashkenazic synagogue, Rodeph Shalom, was established in Philadelphia. 1819. Your statements have element of fact, but are grossly exaggerated and do not include the German and Polish Jews who began to arrive in the New World early in the17th Century. I often tell people horse husbandry came to the Western Hemisphere as a Jewish technology, and the 1st Cowboys were in fact Jewish, but everyone laughs.
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  32. No, since the Armenian genocide, check the population numbers, there are two distinct groups.
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