Comments by "nuqwestr" (@nuqwestr) on "“Gaza Is NO MORE” Norman Finkelstein vs Fleur Hassan | Israel Showdown" video.

  1. ? There are 1.9million Arab citizens of Israel, 20% of the population. What you call "Palestinians" were kicked out of both Egypt and Jordan, they have no rights in Lebanon or Syria. Why the double standard.
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  2. Hassan is not "Iranian"? Where did you get that. Her father has lineage from the Caliphates in North Africa, not Persia. "Hassan" is Arabic, not Persian.
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  3. rare because he's nuts, like chomsky
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  4. Hassan is 100 per cent Sephardic Jew. Hassan is normally an Arab first name; but, in the Jewish tradition, it is a surname. Her family has a history of nearly 300 years in Gibraltar. They arrived from Morocco in 1728
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  5. There were no Palestinians in 1947. Jordan was created in 1946. Was that "illegal"?
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  6. Jordan is an Apartheid state, with Christians being limited in both government and education, and there are no Jews. Israel has 1.9 million Arab citizens, 20% of the population.
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  7.  @KyokaMaruyama  Jordan created in 1946 in same process. Why the double-standard. There is no country of "Palestine", there was a temporary British Mandate which included what is now Jordan. Should the Hashemites give it back? Should the Saudis give back the Hejaz to the Hashemites? Jews fought in WW1 for the land and won.
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  8.  @thebeatcreeper  False, the Allied Powers at San Remo in 1920 created temporary mandates until nation/states could be created. No land was ever "given" in that sense. By 1952 a million non-European Jews came to Israel, including what is now half a million Yemini Jews. Where else in the region could a Yemini Jew have full autonomy. In Yemen today?
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  9. I didn't hear her scream. And you believed Norman won the debate even before it began.
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  10. Benny Morris didn't interrupt, but Norman did, and didn't answer Benny's question. Norman is delusional. .
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  11. Piers also doesn't realize the Apollo 11 landing was fake and the earth is flat.
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  12. Every polemicist on this thread should read this document from March 1921 "Report on the State of Palestine presented to the Right Honourable Mr. Winston Churchill P.C., M.P. by the Executive Committee of the Third Arab Palestine Congress. Jerusalem, March 28, 1921." - Library of Congress (online as PDF)
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  13. thread is mostly paid bots in the UK.
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  14.  @Jad490  Not recognized because they did not exist. Perhaps "the land" should go back to the owners, the Ottoman Empire.
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  15.  @weblogstory  The region of Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire for 400 years, but never a nation. The Ottoman's lost WW1 and ceded the region in a peace treaty. The Allied Powers created two Mandates, one was called the Palestinian Mandate, it was not a nation/state. Jordan was created in 1946 out of that Mandate and Israel in 1948. Do you call Jordan "Palestine"? Are Jordanians called "Palestinians"?
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  16.  @weblogstory  Mountains, and mountains of evidence you would never accept. Here's evidence, a primary source from 1921, available online as a PDF in english. "Report on the State of Palestine presented to the Right Honourable Mr. Winston Churchill P.C., M.P. by the Executive Committee of the Third Arab Palestine Congress. Jerusalem, March 28, 1921." - Library of Congress website.
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  17.  @socillizt4life  There was no nation/state of Palestine, it was a temporary British mandate and before that a region under the Ottoman/Turk for 400 years. Jews were present in all that time and fought with the British in WW1 for autonomy as a modern, nation/state and won. What part of that is not fact?
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  18.  @astrodax2753  be specific
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  19. @botchedoperations3485 State of Jordan was created in 1946, two years before UN voted on partition. What do you mean "after the conflicts"? The "resistance" began in 1921 and never ended.
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  20.  @Edward-hx1is  Palestine as a region is on many maps for 100s of years, but it was never a modern nation/state, like say Jordan, which was created out of the British Mandate of Palestine in 1946. Your argument is weak.
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  21.  @keevancrawford6708  Hassan's father's roots are North African, not European.
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  22.  @Litefrire  No, her roots are in North Africa and go back 100s of years. She is Sephardi not Ashkenazi.
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  23.  @Libbathegreat There is no connection between the Khazar, a turkic people, and Eastern European Jewry, their language is a mixture of Hebrew and German, there is nothing in the language or culture that ties them to this myth of Khazar conversion. DNA shows Semitic/Levantine/Italian origin. You know the history, and that the Romans didn't banish the Jews but took them as slaves back to Rome where they designed and built the Coliseum. Recent evidence of a removed bronze plate on the Coliseum was recently identified. I've visited the Jewish Ghetto in Rome which is over 2,000 years old. Israel is a modern, nation/state earned through service in WW1. Jews fought and died for autonomy. There are half-million Yemini Jews in Israel. Where else in the region could they be full citizens?
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  24.  @TheHonestSpeaker  ? There are half-million Yemini Jews in Israel, their DNA goes back over 10,000 years in the region. Where else in the region could they be full citizens of a modern nation/state?
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  25.  @keevancrawford6708  There are half-million Yemini Jews in Israel with DNA that goes back over 10,000 years, so tied to the land.
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  26. Piers had Mate' on, you include him?
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  27. Hassan has Arab roots to Caliphates in North Africa and the Levant. Norman is a Khazar, a fake Jew from Europe. Why believe him? Norman is part of the White European Patriarchy of settler colonialists now living in Canada.
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  28.  @mehdirabie  I'm not the one calling the Ashkenazi fake Jews. Are you saying Norman is a real Jew? If so, are then not the Ashkenazi in Israel also real Jews? Don't you believe the Ashkenazi are not Semitic, but of Turkic origin from the Caucuses? Why the double standard?
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  29.  @mehdirabie  Norman, like Chomsky and Pappe, are polemicists. Benny Morris is an Historian.
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  30. I've been posting them
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  31. Norman is a FAKE Jew, a Khazar As of Oct 2024, according to UN OCHA, there are 160,000 pregnant women in Gaza. That's not genocide.
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  32.  @Aslapfromthefuture  what is "Israel"? Perhaps that's the issue, not her specific DNA.
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  33. Hassan's father and family have several hundred year history in the Caliphates of North Africa. Her father was a revolutionary who fought against the Fascist leader of Spain, Franco.
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  34.  @simonkapadia7582  Norman is Ashkenazi, said to be a "Fake" Jew. Is Norman Jewish? If so, are not all the Ashkenazi in Israel also Jewish, or is Norman real and only they are "fake"?
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  35.  @socillizt4life  "Pale" is a Greek word which means to "Wrestle". Israel is the Hebrew for the people who "Wrestle". Palestine is Greek for Israel.
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  36.  @annon3605  Yes, Golda had a BRITISH issued passport for the BRITISH MANDATE of Palestine, a temporary administrative state, not a codified nation/state. The people of what is now Jordan also held those British passports. They were temporary based on the 1920 agreements of San Remo. Many on the West Bank still hold Jordanian passports. Are they Palestinian or Jordanian?
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  37.  @theCommentDevil  I never said no "Palestine". Golda Meir held a British Mandate passport which said "Palestine". There's never been a modern, nation/state of Palestine. Jordan was created in 1946, there were no Jordanians before that date. Let me know where there's a Palestinian state.
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  38.  @theCommentDevil  Others say that. I maintain there was no modern, nation/state of Palestine. Is that false? Palestine was a region of the Ottoman/Turk Empire for 400 years. Arabs referred to it as a region, not a people. "Report on the State of Palestine presented to the Right Honourable Mr. Winston Churchill P.C., M.P. by the Executive Committee of the Third Arab Palestine Congress. Jerusalem, March 28, 1921." - Library of Congress.
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  39.  @theCommentDevil  i never said people did not exist. i'm a practical, secular empiricist. the subject hasn't changed for over 100 years. A Jewish nation/state in the region. Yes/No.
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  40.  @Jad490  many countries were created and borders redrawn by the UN after WW2, why is Israel the only one you don't recognize? Do you recognize Jordan or Pakistan?
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  41.  @weblogstory  Palestine was never on a world map as a country, only a region, like "Arabia" which was not a country.
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  42.  @weblogstory  evidence is manifest and available to you with a few keystrokes.
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  43. 100% Sephardic Jew. Joshua Hassan, her father, has an Arab surname which is a Jewish tradition in the Arab caliphates in North Africa. JEW is the connection to Jerusalem. Majority of Gazans are Egyptians, just like Yasser Arafat, a North African.
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  44.  @adelbenelachhab  The region of Morocco was part of several Islamic caliphates throughout history, though it also saw the establishment of its own independent dynasties and empires. Here's a breakdown of the key periods: Early Islamic Period (7th-8th Century): After the Islamic expansion in the 7th century, the region that is now Morocco came under the influence of the Umayyad Caliphate (661–750), based in Damascus, Syria. The Umayyads expanded their rule into North Africa, and Islam spread to the Berber tribes in Morocco. However, during this time, the area was largely governed by local Berber leaders under the Umayyads' broader control. Abbasid Caliphate (750–1258): Following the fall of the Umayyads, the Abbasid Caliphate took control of the Islamic world, including North Africa, although the caliphal authority was less direct in Morocco. Local rulers in Morocco often acted independently or in semi-autonomy while recognizing Abbasid spiritual authority. Almoravid and Almohad Dynasties (11th–13th Century): In the 11th and 12th centuries, the Almoravid and Almohad dynasties, both of which were founded in Morocco, established powerful empires that spanned much of North Africa and into Spain (al-Andalus). These dynasties were significant in the Islamic world, and although they were not caliphates in the strict sense, they exercised immense political and religious influence similar to that of a caliphate. Merenid and Saadi Dynasties (13th–17th Century): After the decline of the Almohads, the Merenids and Saadi dynasties ruled Morocco. The Saadis, in particular, became prominent in the 16th century. While these were not part of the larger caliphates of the Islamic world, they were still important Islamic states with religious and political power. Modern Period: In the 19th and 20th centuries, Morocco was divided into spheres of influence between European powers, but it retained a degree of independence. It was not a caliphate during this period, although the monarchy claimed to uphold Islam as part of its identity.
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  45.  @adelbenelachhab  The modern term "Jewish State" was coined by Zvi Berenson in the 1st draft of the Israeli Declaration of Independence, He was born in Safed to a family who'd been there for more than 20 generations.
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  46. Norman and Noam are FAKE JEWS, descendants of Khazars, they don't count.
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  47. Norman is Ashkenazi, so a FAKE JEW, descendants of Khazars!
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  48. They're mostly Egyptians who came in during the British Mandate for jobs.
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  49.  @Marius_vanderLubbe  During the British Mandate period, many Egyptian workers came to the region, including Gaza. After the British Mandate ended in 1948, Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip. Many Egyptian workers and officials stayed in Gaza during this time, as Egypt administered the area until 1967
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  50.  @KhHa-z2w  a joke, in los angeles county at the beach.
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  51.  @buckrogers7115  The United States has the right/law if Eminent Domain and uses it all the time. Eminent domain is the power of the government to take private property for public use, while providing just compensation to the owner. It is also known as compulsory purchase, land acquisition, resumption, or expropriation.
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  52.  @oussamaannazri  not your choice
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  53.  @tonybologna3604  Jordon's borders were drawn in 1946, why the double standard? Are you saying 700,000 were "massacred". Yeah, there's nothing to discuss, read this Report on the State of Palestine presented to the Right Honourable Mr. Winston Churchill P.C., M.P. by the Executive Committee of the Third Arab Palestine Congress. Jerusalem, March 28, 1921.
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  54.  @adity126  also, half are under 18 and 160,000 pregnant women, how is that genocide?
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  55. Fleur is a Sephardic Jew, her father is 100% Sephardic, Joshua Hassan, Hassan is normally an Arab first name; but, in the Jewish tradition, it is a surname. Her family has a history of nearly 300 years in Gibraltar. They arrived from Morocco in 1728
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  56. ​ @tariqnasri1133  what "right"? de-facto citizen of a nation/state.
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  57. You left out Jordanian women and Christians who are restricted from servicing in government and academia. Sharia Apartheid.
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  58. Netanyahu was born in Israel.
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  59.  @rene230464  You don't need to believe that in order to believe in modern nation/states. Jordan was created at the same time and in much the same way as Israel. Norman doesn't care about modern nation/states, and his real unspoken enemy in the United States. He's a coward.
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  60.  @Iloveswedes  "Likely not Semitic"? There are almost half-million Yemini Jews in Israel, their DNA is 10,000 years old in the region. The majority of Israelis are not Ashkenazi who also have Semitic DNA mixed with "Roman" who didn't "banish" but took many Hebrews as slaves back to Rome. Jews built the Coliseum, the Jewish Ghetto in Rome is over 2,000 years old. Your Taqiyya is transparent.
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  61.  @Tuppence196  "Jew thing"? LOL, what is Islam without the "Jew thing". Please tell me.
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  62.  @conantheseptuagenarian3824  Why are Christians always persecuted in Islam. Why did the Hagia Sophia become a Mosque?
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  63. Just like America, New York and Louisiana. Very different accents.
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  64.  @RedbarIzWatching69  West Bank is still disputed land that has 3 zones, some building is not allowed, and Israel tears down illegal settlements by both Arabs and Israelis. Some settlements could be used in negotiations to end the dispute. Jordan left in 1967, the area is still disputed land.
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  65. During the British Mandate period, many Egyptian workers came to the region, including Gaza. After the British Mandate ended in 1948, Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip. Many Egyptian workers and officials stayed in Gaza during this time, as Egypt administered the area until 1967. They are neither Gazans or Palestinians, but Egyptians, and why almost 300,000 fled into Egypt after 10/7
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  66. UN OCHA October 2024 - 160,000 pregnant women in Gaza, that's not a genocide.
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  67. There are almost 500,000 Yemini Jewish citizens in Israel. Do they have a right of autonomy, a right to defend themselves. Where in the region would they be safe?
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  68. Norman is a "fake" Jew, and Ashkenazi, why believe him? He's part of the White European Patriarchal Settler Colonial project himself?
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  69. Pappe a well-known polemicist who doesn't believe in nation/states.
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  70.  @raging_giant5690  No, that's factually incorrect. Romans never renamed the region philistine. After the Romans took over, the region of Judea was renamed Syria Palaestina, which literally translates to "Palestinian Syria" It was never a "State. The Greek word "PALE" means "Wrestle", Israel is Hebrew for "Wrestle". The Romans named the region after the Israelites of Syria. There's never been a modern nation/state called Palestine. The Allied Powers after WW1 created temporary mandates in the region to establish modern nation/states. Jordan was one, created in 1946, and Israel became another in 1948.
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  71. UN OCHA report Oct 2024 160,000 pregnant women in Gaza. How is that a genocide?
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  72. UN OCHA says in October 2024 there were 160,000 pregnant women in Gaza. How did that happen?
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  73. Egypt has a border with Gaza, on 6 Oct there were almost 20,000 Gazans coming into Israel each day but none into Egypt. Why the double-standard?
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  74.  @MK-hw2ir  "annexation"? what land, how are they unstoppable?
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  75. Trump just appointed a Zionist, Elise Stefanik, to be UN Ambassador to the UN. Trump will again defund UNRWA. There are B-2s on the tarmac of Diego-Garcia. We know the taqiyya well now. This debate is not about Israel, but the USA. If you are in Yemen, duck.
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  76.  @inspectortanzi  Norman is a fake Jew, a Khazar, Hassan has roots to Morocco which go back hundreds of years and to the Levant, Norman's roots are in the Caucuses and Europe. Why do you believe the fake Jew?
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  77. 14million watched an interview with Trump who just nominated a Zionist to be Ambassador to the UN.
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  78. ? Trump just nominated a Zionist to be Ambassador to the UN and an Evangelical Christian to be Ambassador to Israel. Trump will also defund UNRWA. Gee, how did 7 Oct work out for you?
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  79. mexico must give land back to spain and spain give back land to Tongva Indians.
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  80.  @BareKnucklePolemic  Norman's real enemy is the United States but he's too much of a coward to pick a fight with us directly, so uses Israel.
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  81.  @mehdirabie  my response to you was deleted, I'm a Lithuanian Jew, most likely by way of ancient Rome where Titus took many Jews as slaves then dispersed them to many parts of the Roman Empire. The Khazar myth is just that, a myth.
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