Comments by "nuqwestr" (@nuqwestr) on "The JEWS are NOT the Indigenous People of the Land of Israel (But then who is?)" video.

  1. They came in waves of different origin, too.
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  2.  @androide-centynela  Israel is not majority Europeans, it was not "given". A Jewish Legion fought for the land in WW1 alongside the British. "Semite", in what context? Are the 400,000 Yemenite Jews of Israel not semitic? Do they not now have autonomy or sovereignty? Same for the almost 50% Mizrahi Jews in Israel. So what if a minority of kinsman had the resources to help establish this sovereignty, this protective nation/state. The joke holds no truth, so is not funny.
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  3.  @PatrickTengmusic  ??? Oren says Jerusalem not mentioned in the Qur'an. Says text found from 2,700 years ago. How is that "twisted"? Don't just read the title.
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  4. "thinking" started in 1916 when Arabs declared victory over their former ally, the Ottoman Turk. They discount the Jewish Legion who also fought with the British in WW1. This is more a political struggle than a religious one.
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  5.  @androide-centynela  Check out the DNA of Abd al-Rahman III, 8th Emir of Córdoba in the 10th Century, beard so blonde he had to paint it black. Mom and Grand-Mom blue eyed blondes from Gaul. Check the DNA of the current king and queen of Jordan. LOL
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  6. "Given", the Jewish Legion fought alongside the British in WW1 against the Ottoman Turk, just like the Arabs.
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  7.  @idonuttylikezenorship4547  Only the Roman map, which only lasted a few hundred more years, and while most Jews were expelled from Jerusalem for a short time, they never fully left the region.
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  8. Great story, my Grand-Father in America did same, and every year from California raised the toast "Next Year in Jerusalem", a toast with origin in medieval Europe. Odessa is closer to Jerusalem than Oman.
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  9.  @donhue4546  You mean G-D or GOD? In either case, not a priority for me in this struggle, which is born from the European goal of nation/state building and the end of the Ottoman Empire in WW1. Both the Jews and Arabs fought with the British for the land. Only the Arabs did not want to share. They are racists, and use religion as a secondary weapon, something we Jews often use, too. In any case, the struggle to me is primarily political. When Arafat said in 1999/2000 that Solomon's Temple was a Zionist Fantasy, that was not a religious statement, but one of politics.
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  10.  @freeto9139  Welcome To The Tachi-Yokut Tribe The Indians of the San Joaquin Valley were known as Yokuts. The word "Yokuts" mean people. The Yokuts were divided into true tribes. Each had a name, a language, and a territory. We believe the tribe along with others belonged to the first groups that settled in California. They are called the seed-gatherers because they did no farming at all in the days before Columbus. Their main food was acorns. The Yokuts also ate wild plants, roots, and berries. They hunted deer, rabbits, prairie dogs, and other small mammals and birds.
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  11.  @donhue4546  Politics. Since the 17th Century, we've mostly lived in a framework of nation/state sovereignty laid out by the Westphalian agreements, the precursor to both the League of Nations and now the United Nations. Zionism vs Pan-Arabism is a political struggle which some Arabs attempted to solve by war.
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  12. Even in the Americas, a group like the Aztecs are not "indigenous" to what is now Mexico. Their origin story, Aztlan, has them coming from the north to take the land, which they did, from another group, the Tlaxcala, who still hate the "Mexica " Aztecs. If ever you are in the region near the Yucatan, careful not to call someone there a "Mexican", they won't like it.
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  13. One of the prominent Jewish architects from 10th-century Cordoba was Hasdai ibn Shaprut. He was a notable figure in the court of Abd-ar-Rahman III, the Caliph of Cordoba. Hasdai ibn Shaprut was involved in architectural projects in the city, contributing to its renowned cultural and architectural legacy during the Islamic Golden Age in Spain. His multi-faceted talents reflect the intellectual and cultural richness of Cordoba during that period.
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  14.  @David99356  It has political status, which was its original intent. Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan was Sunni Bedouin, born in Medina. It marked conquest territory. strictly political.
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  15. Was Herod Jewish?
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  16.  @strigoiu13  "area"? I was specifically speaking of East Jerusalem, which was majority Jewish at the end of the Ottoman Empire, "Area", perhaps 8-12% under Ottoman rule. Guess why? By the late 19th century, the Ottoman Empire had an estimated Jewish population of 300,000–450,000. However, by 2002, demographer Sergio DellaPergola estimated that the Jewish population of Turkey, was between 15,500–21,000. "Ethnic Cleansing"?
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  17.  @NewOldResearch  Check the DNA of Abd-ar-Rahman III, Emir of Cordoba in the 10th Century. Blonde hair, blue eyes, red beard he painted black to look more Arab since his mother and grandmother were Christians from Gaul.
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  18.  @deguilhemcorinne418  Agree, as I've done much research on Amin and clan. Most don't know he was a convicted terrorist before being made Grand Mufti by the Brits. But he was not alone, but part of a clan or tribe who sought sovereignty for themselves over another Arab clan. 1920 Jerusalem riots turned the traditional rivalry between the Husseini and Nashashibi clans into a serious rift, with long-term consequences for al-Husseini and Palestinian nationalism. The "fear" was losing any land to a Jewish majority state. I understand the fear of European Jews. They had better resources and education than them. The fear was justified, the violence was not. Imagine today, Qatar and Israel working with Gazans to turn the 42 miles of Cote d' Azur into a paradise.
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  19.  @androide-centynela  Japan is a nation/state, it does not currently have a national religion, and an occidental can be Japanese by citizenship. Article 20 of the 1947 Japanese Constitution states: "Freedom of religion is guaranteed to all. No religious organization shall receive any privileges from the State, nor exercise any political authority. No person shall be compelled to take part in any religious act, celebration, rite or practice.
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  20. Here's what happened 100 years ago Report on the State of Palestine presented to the Right Honourable Mr. Winston Churchill P.C., M.P. by the Executive Committee of the Third Arab Palestine Congress. Jerusalem, March 28, 1921.
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  21.  @RiggyRonnie  Google it and you will get the 30 page report as PDF from The Library of Congress. Primary source material. Well worth reading.
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  22.  @farfiman  Sure, a state in a confederation of States in a country called 'Greater Syria" like the United 50 States of America. Yes, that's Pan-Arabism. There are 22 Arab states in the League. Regardless, that "Greater Syria" did not accept a Jewish majority state in the region. That's racism, and very odd Western leftists align with that brand of racism? Also odd, why would they want a "Greater Syria along the borders created by Roman conquers and then the Ottoman Empire? This is not Arab history, but Western History?
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  23. Both the Jordanian and Palestinian flag are symbols of the Arab Revolt against the Ottoman Turk, Pan-Arabism, the BLACK, WHITE, GREEN represent the three Caliphates and the RED chevron the unity of the three. The Jordanian flag has a 7-Pointed Star on the red hoist chevron, it stands for the seven verses of al-fatiha in the Qur'an. During the Ottoman Empire’s rule, the region flew a plain red flag with a five-pointed white star and a crescent moon. The Ottomans ruled the region until the First World War when the Arab Revolt overthrew them in 1916. The young Arabs designed a flag that represented their aspirations in a Turkish-dominated empire. The Arab Revolt used a black-green-white horizontal tricolor flag, which had a red triangle at the hoist to symbolize the Arab revolution and their conquest of the Ottoman Turks between the years 1916 to 1918. The Arab Revolts raised their flag for the first time in Jerusalem in 1916. I doubt any of my young students in American wrapping themselves in these flags know the history, the "short" history, or that a Jewish Legion was also in the fight against the Ottoman Turk. The Jewish Legion saw action during the Sinai and Palestine campaign, where they fought at the Battle of Megiddo before being reduced to one battalion, nicknamed the "First Judaeans".
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  24. Oren is correct, the land was a crossroads of many peoples, and after the collapse of civilization around 1200BCE, the "sea peoples" swarmed in from all over the Eastern Mediterranean, perhaps as far as what is now Italy and Spain. How doe that matter in terms of early 20th century politics which is what the conflict is framed in.
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  25.  @germaniatv1870  Herod the Great was "Roman" and "Jewish"? Herod the Great, despite ruling over a predominantly Jewish population in Judea, was not ethnically Jewish himself. He was an Idumean, also known as Edomite, which was a Semitic people who inhabited the region south of Judea.
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  26.  @sciencescholar3440  Herod the Great, despite ruling over a predominantly Jewish population in Judea, was not ethnically Jewish himself. He was an Idumean, also known as Edomite, which was a Semitic people who inhabited the region south of Judea.
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  27.  @HabaneroTi  I'm good with it, just wanted to make it clear. Herod's architecture was not exactly "Jewish" in that sense. That's what I was responding to, the 2nd Temple, not Solomon's, which Arafat said was "a Zionist Fantasy". It's on video, heard him say it in 1999/2000.
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  28.  @NewOldResearch  Political Jew placed there by the Romans. I'm okay with that, but it should be clear. There is more than just religious history imbued in the greater culture of being a Jew and citizen of Israel.
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  29.  @idonuttylikezenorship4547  Hajj, Amin al-Husseini befriends Adolf Eichmann, they work on final solution together. Husseni moves to Egypt after WW2, new movie out in Egypt celebrates Husseini's friendship with Hitler.
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  30.  @idonuttylikezenorship4547  The Jewish Edict of Expulsion, King Edward I - 1290 Clifford's Tower Massacre 1190, after York's Jewish community, some 150 strong, was besieged here by a mob and committed mass suicide. By the time King Edward returned to England after his crusade in 1289, he was deeply in debt. The next summer he summoned his knights to introduce a steep tax on his people. To make the tax more bearable Edward essentially offered to expel all Jews in exchange.
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  31.  @idonuttylikezenorship4547  "Jews Finance the British Civil War Red Revolution- 1639 - 1653" RED"? not used, and the "Great Rebellion" covered not one war but several, and include the Welch, the Scots, and the Irish. Jews had been expelled from England in the late thirteenth century, but during the English Civil Wars, there were efforts to allow their return. Oliver Cromwell presented a petition advocating for the readmission of Jews. Puritans like Cromwell supported Jews and the Jewish bible, that's why so many early American colonists had names like Abraham and Isaac. Despite their small numbers, Jews participated in the English Civil Wars. Approximately 8,000 to 10,000 Jews, mostly recent immigrants, donned uniforms, and some even rose through the ranks to become officers. Your "facts" don't align with well documented history.
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  32.  @donhue4546  will you answer, G-d or God? Define your term.
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  33.  @billTO  A genetic analysis of bone fragments unearthed at an archaeological site in central Germany shows conclusively that modern humans — Homo sapiens — had already reached Northern Europe 45,000 years ago, overlapping with Neanderthals for several thousand years before the latter went extinct. Yemenite Jewish mitochondrial diversity reflects descent from ancient Israeli exiles and shared African and Middle Eastern ancestry with little evidence for large-scale conversion. Yemenites have the greatest cluster of DNA from the Natufian hunter-gatherers who were making Pita Bread in what is now Jordan 14,400 years ago.
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  34. Yemenite Jews have the greatest cluster of DNA from the Natufian hunter-gatherers who were making Pita Bread in what is now Jordan 14,400 years ago. Found: 14,400-Year-Old Flatbread Remains That Predate Agriculture The burned crumbs shed light on prehistoric hunter-gatherers’ diets. BY PAULA MEJIA JULY 16, 2018
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  35. LOOK! The Jews and Arabs fought with the British to end Ottoman rule. The Jews were willing to share the spoils of war, the Arabs were not. THAT'S IT.
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  36. DNA is imprecise, the clusters do tell a good story, though, and the 400,000 Yemenite Jews in Israel are the most "indigenous" of all in these cluster charts.
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  37. NO NO NO, there were many waves of migration to the Western Hemisphere, in North Western America the resemblances are more to the tribes of what is now Northern Japan, even in dress and song. THE AINU.
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  38. There's speculation on where Muhammad was meditating in a cave when he saw the Angel who revealed the Qur'an. They say near Mecca, the description of the land more closely describes the fertile Negev. In any case, which makes sense, since the origin story was appropriated from Jews. It's possible that it was a Jew who created this new religion, converted the Bedu, and took them as an army north to reclaim Judea after the Byzantine and Persians spent themselves in wars. Just a "what if" idea.
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  39. "Philistine", is just a "thought". The word "Palestine" is ancient Greek, not Latin, but also indo-European. Arabic has no "P" or "P" sound. Hebrew does. In Ephesians 6:12, he proclaimed, “Our struggle” – literally, our wrestling – “is not against flesh and blood.” The Greek word is pale (PAH-lay), which had both literal and figurative uses. Palē was the most popular organized sport in ancient Greece. The Greeks called the land Pale"stine", the place of Wrestling. Some think that is where the name comes from. Palestine in Greek, Israel in Hebrew.
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  40. The Churchill White Paper of 1922 was a significant document in the history of British policy towards Palestine and its Jewish inhabitants. Issued by Winston Churchill, who was then the Colonial Secretary, it aimed to address the tensions arising from conflicting promises made to both the Jewish and Arab communities during World War I. The White Paper affirmed Britain's commitment to the Balfour Declaration of 1917, which expressed support for the establishment of a "national home" for the Jewish people in Palestine, while also recognizing the rights of non-Jewish communities in the region. However, it also sought to reconcile this commitment with the concerns of the Arab population. Key points of the Churchill White Paper included: 1. **Partition**: Churchill proposed a partition of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab areas. This was one of the earliest instances of such a proposal, though it did not come to fruition at the time. 2. **Limitation of Jewish Immigration**: The White Paper introduced restrictions on Jewish immigration to Palestine, stating that it should not exceed the economic absorptive capacity of the country. This was a response to Arab concerns about Jewish immigration overwhelming the indigenous population. 3. **Land Sales**: It recommended the control of land sales in Palestine to prevent the dispossession of Arab peasants. 4. **Protection of Rights**: Churchill emphasized the need to protect the rights of all communities in Palestine, regardless of religion or ethnicity. The Churchill White Paper was criticized by both Jewish and Arab communities. Zionist leaders objected to the restrictions on Jewish immigration and land acquisition, which they saw as betrayals of the Balfour Declaration. Arab leaders, on the other hand, felt that the paper did not go far enough in addressing their grievances and aspirations for self-determination. Overall, the Churchill White Paper was an attempt to navigate the complexities of the situation in Palestine at the time, but it ultimately failed to satisfy either side and did not lead to a lasting resolution of the conflict.
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  41.  @michaelrosenzweig3234  I agree on Balfour, and have said many times "Balfour" was just a suggestion. Not the point. There was a World War, the Germans and Ottomans lost that war, both had their borders contracted, and the Brits got administrative control over Ottoman Palestine. The LAND was TAKEN from the OTTOMAN TURKS. Both the Arabs and Jews FOUGHT with the Brits, both were promised LAND as a REWARD. The Jews were willing to SHARE, the ARABS were NOT. Proof? Here it is. You can read it online exactly as it was sent to Churchill in 1921. "Report on the State of Palestine presented to the Right Honourable Mr. Winston Churchill P.C., M.P. by the Executive Committee of the Third Arab Palestine Congress. Jerusalem, March 28, 1921." - Library of Congress.
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  42.  @idonuttylikezenorship4547  "payroll", did you read the "White Paper", Churchill was against Jewish migration in numbers that would create conflict. Churchill was on the British "payroll", he was a nationalist/imperialist and Zionists were his competition.
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  43.  @idonuttylikezenorship4547  I'm aware of "Patton's", and also MacArthur's opinion on Communism, but don't see the "nail" or the connection. Are you saying Communism and Zionism are the same?
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  44.  @idonuttylikezenorship4547  VERIFIED, in its original as sent to Churchill in 1921. You can also read the "White Paper" of 1922 online, in its original Report on the State of Palestine presented to the Right Honourable Mr. Winston Churchill P.C., M.P. by the Executive Committee of the Third Arab Palestine Congress. Jerusalem, March 28, 1921.
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  45.  @idonuttylikezenorship4547  Churchill was not at San Remo 1920 The San Remo Conference when allocation of mandates for former Ottoman territories in the Middle East were made. The conference confirmed the British Mandate for Palestine, which included provisions for the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine. Again, 5 Jewish battalions fought with the UK, some at Gallipoli in 1915 even before Arabs entered the war. Winning a war has its rewards, and a nation/state for Jews was one of them.
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  46. The International Jew is a four-volume set of antisemitic booklets or pamphlets originally published and distributed in the early 1920s by the Dearborn Publishing Company, an outlet owned by Henry Ford, the American industrialist and automobile manufacturer. Following the publishing of an article in the Independent that alleged Jewish control of New York banks that were holding Texas cotton farmers hostage financially, San Francisco lawyer and Jewish farm cooperative organizer Aaron Sapiro sued Ford and Dearborn Publishing for libel in a $1 million lawsuit. The libel suit led Ford to issue a retraction and public apology in which he indicated having been unaware of the nature of the remarks, both those published in the Independent, and the subsequent pamphlets, and was "shocked" by the content.
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  47.  @idonuttylikezenorship4547  Documented Patton quote very different; ""In my opinion, the American Army as it now exists could beat the Russians with the greatest of ease, because, while the Russians have good infantry, they are lacking in artillery, air, tanks, and in the knowledge of the use of the combined arms, whereas we excel in all three of these. If it should be necessary to fight the Russians, the sooner we do it the better. The unprepared fight would be a slaughter, and we should lose more men in the first six months than we lost in all our other wars. I wonder whether I have fought on the wrong side." - 1945 George Patton. He made this statement during a conversation with General Walter Bedell Smith, Eisenhower's chief of staff, in May 1945. Patton expressed his concerns about the Soviets and their expansionist goals, particularly in Eastern Europe.
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  48.  @idonuttylikezenorship4547  you quoted Patton incorrectly and out of context, my response was getting out of the hole you dug, not mine.
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  49.  @idonuttylikezenorship4547  I don't know what "OP" represents? I'm committed and loyal to the truth, will admit to being incorrect, however painful that might be. Was George Patton referring to Jews or Russians in his 1945 statement?
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  50. Armenians in East Jerusalem fought alongside Arabs against Jews in 1948 and still proud of it.
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  51.  @freeto9139  Wow, the fantasy of the "native" living in a garden of Eden. The swamp lands in what is now Central California was full of pestilence and disease, the natives came only at certain times of the year, but still got sick and died. "Harmony" until you got a cut and died of septicemia. What do you think the pre-Columbian infant mortality rate was? Or your life span if a neighbor to the Aztec. Evil did not arrive with Columbus.
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