Comments by "Tomas Vrabec" (@tomasvrabec1845) on "Will the Fertility Rates in Europe Rise Again?" video.

@georgios_5342 that's bit weird. When I was younger I would often see pregnant women even in ther Kate months outside. They went for walks (as one put it... It is a small walk and more sitting outside). I would see them in town centers holding their belly and reading news or magazines, I would see them in parks where they would somethimes just watch kids of various ages interact... Or just be in nature.
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Here where I a gay man told people that I want kids.. they ask why and I say: 1. So that I am not alone in old age, 2. So that someone can take care of me when I am old,3. So that I am a part of some innate community (wider family often is). They said that's stupid and even evil. Then proceeded to school me regarding why you should have kids... Stating thing like affording to be able to go with them on Holliday's and so on as necessary. It just seemed weird to me, and from those points on clear to me, that it's not even tied to being liberal or being LGBT or being a man or a woman... None of that matters as each and every group went on about money, then reflecting on their own struggles where their own parents were no enough- mostly financially... To me that's weird. I am a Slovak and I grew up in largely very traditional family full of many catholics and military personnel (yet, neither care much wther I am gay or not- rare but they don't.. ). And even though I am a gay man, through their traditional mindsets (mixed with progressive views), even I still want kids and a family l, and aim in life "to be old grandpa that farms, gardens, helps with grandkids and all"... As I honestly don't see point in living and life without that goal. I might get excited at the thought of travels, especially as I love vernacular architecture, folklore and love learning and exploring these cultural parts from around the world... But even then my mind wonders to "but what then when I am old?". Even my damn catholic grandparents push towards me having kids, if possible (mind you), and they don't care if it's biological or adopted.
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What I noticed the most is that as someone who grew up in truly traditional Slavic family (that being within the Rod- clan, not just man and woman... That's not Slavic tradition). I grew up with my grandparents in one house, whilst seeing and visiting my other grandparents every week atkeast once. I have also frequently met siblings of my grandparents several times a months... And even am familiar with my grandmother's aunt. I have always been friendly with elderly and they were good with me. But when I moved to the UK, people do not have that experience. A lot of them do not even know their grandparents... Let alone siblings of their grandparents or their aunts... The animosity towards elderly and generally looking down on them is something I cannot unnotice. But at the same time I do see many elderly here just straight shit on the young too. It's weird but it's also what I see in Slovakia... Usually with those whom were from small families.
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I think my main issue is seeing all the issues... On one hand you have the demographic world crisis mentioned. On the other you have clomate chnage where 1.5c in near innevitable and if temperature goes to 2C it will start a loop pushing it to 5C just because of the systems collapsing (at 2C rainforests can't maintain humidity, too much mwlt of permafrost and so on which in a loop adds more greenhouse gasses whilst removing natural ecosystems in a negatively loop). Amd then you get these little things that one can notice... Like humans in cities showing behaviour of caged animals and zoo kept animals ... Also adding to the demographic crisis... And then you see that the temperature and natural environment changes also push wild animals towards different reproductive patters or lowered ones... And you just wonder... Is this demographic crisis a mix of modernity and the climate?... Who knows.
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There have always been 4. Immortal industries. Agriculture, Building (still need even when people disappear), sex work and funeral services.
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@johnisaacfelipe6357 😂 what a joke. "Homely" work is not a work type description. Homely work involved taking care of animals, butchering animals, cleaning carcasses, shoveling shit and cutting fur... It involved a lot of digging and crop maintenance in the field. It required loading of hay and wheat and offloading of it. It was homely purely by being in the area of the home... Meanwhile a man was a set labourer that went to be a labour in a mine, forest, or other set labour force. 😂😂 "Easy and safe" is such an umbrella term. Safer than a mine? Yes, safer than a forest where bears are or trees might fall on you? Yes... Safe from animals? No... Easy? No It's well recorded in writing. Even on film! Plus I can just ask my great great grandmothers and grandfather's, as well as grandmothers and grandfather's ...
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Interesting. I grew up very traditionally in extended family. They are all very traditionally minded people but simultaneously are progressives. I am gay, they don't mind, they still want me to have kids (they just, some of them, partially turn their head when they realise it's gotta be adopted- but they go "oh well"). I am talking about an Eastern European Slavic traditional family with many in the military, many catholics (actual church goers), and a fair amount of elderly including great grandparents, siblings of grandparents, my grandma's aunt.... Yet... They don't care much for race per say (if you marry someone non white it's fine, just raise your kids with the home culture in mind- even when you live abroad, just so the kids are aware). They don't care for me being gay... They still want me to have kids (they actually push my Gay brother to accept himself because he is tooo religious and does not accept himself... Litteraly you have 70+ old catholics that go to church tell a 30yo man to judge shut up, accept he is gay and move on.... He won't) I want kids, always did, and I knew I was gay since age of 8/9. I moved to England and when we talk about kids with anyone... The answers are exactly as you put it. It does not matter if they are gay, or straight individuals or couples... The answers is exactly as you put it. There are few women I know (we are all around 20-25) and these women are some of the few that actually are in a long term relationship. Most are non British (but moved here before the age of 10, thought visited home often), but some are British. These women actually want kids. When in their late teens they said they feel really weird urge to have a child, they could not explain too much why but they do. They are some of the few women whom seem firm on staying in one relationship even if it's not always peachy. And as they grew older (me included) we all started to give up on this child-having goals to some extent. Mainly by concentrating on provision on housing, and by lowering our desire for the amount (one said 5, then jokes about her v*** after, not she wants atkeast 2.... I went down to atkeast 2 too). But the urdmge is still there. Btw... With me, and it's strange and I dno how to describe it. Being a fairly conscious kid (both of my environment and of myself). I figured that I am more attracted to men somewhat simultaneously with my desire to adopt. I wanted to be a father iné day as early as 7/8 years old. I have also figured I am gay around 8/9 years old.... And I have never gelf any desire to have my own biological kids and always felt the urge to adopt instead. Like... I was 9 and I already decided I do not want my own but to adopt.... Weird, but why not. I just sorta thought that well if I am gay (as I only fully accepted it around 13/14) the. I suppose the urge to adopt makes sense biologically rather than to reproduce on my own. ... Only later discovering that many animals that do show gay behaviour do seem to have a tendency to adopt.
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I do have to say. Well done dad. He was always a bit philosophical and stoic military man but never unloving and uncaring. He did have more of a Provisional Love language (to provide as an expression of affection) but just listening to him about social development, history, folklore and traditions (where they come from, how they affect us and all) and even hearing the story of a Man who makes 3 coins (one for his father, one for himself and one for his son)... Sorta explained the basics of social economics which most seem to totally ignore.
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