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Gulags were in place in the Soviet Union between 1923-1961. The earliest camps were put in place by Lenin. Issue was even by the 1960s the Gulags were not gone. The Soviet Union just renamed them, improved conditions and they became Labor Colonizes. So technically the Gulag system never actually ended in the Soviet Union. The USSR still used forced prison labor pretty much up till it's collapse.
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@ДмитрийРокин-ф7б Yes but American prisons are not used as State owned Labor Camps to shore up the short comings of a Totalitarian State's ability to produce raw resources. No American prison sends it's prisoners into coal mines for example. That and today the US Population is multiple times that of the USSR from the time of the Soviet Union. There are also other factors. During the Population Transfer Period where the USSR Ethnically cleansed entire regions of the country, and removed nearly all undesirables from it's western territories. of which it's estimated 800,000 to 1.5 million of which died as a result. It's estimated between the foundation of the USSR and the 1950s over 20 million people not just men, but entire families were removed from their homes and sent to work/live in labor colonies, mostly to mine gold, iron, coal, and other precious materials the Soviet Union needed for it's Industries. Which would include the infamous Gulags. So it wasn't just the Gulags. Even after the Gulags were officially shut down these labor colonies continued to operate. It's actually the largest ethnic cleansing in European history. So much so it would make HItler blush knowing he's 2nd best. That being said USSR's 20 million vs today's US Prisoner count of 1.2 million doesn't sound the same does it? Definitely when you take into consideration the US Population of today is 3x that of the USSR in the 1930/40s. So either you're lying and never looked up statistics, or you don't care about history enough to know how bad the USSR really was.
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Whether they are or not isn't even relevant and I honestly don't see why people think it means anything. Because these kind of people exist everywhere in the world surprisingly even Israel has some Nazi groups as weird as that sounds.
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If you want to know why Orwell hated the Soviets. Well it's quite obvious why, despite being a Socialist himself. To him Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, they were all relatively the same. There is a reason in his essay "What is Fascism?" The 2nd to last paragraph he says "... Socialist of every colour need to make admissions."
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