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Comments by "Kameraden" (@Alte.Kameraden) on "Getting OWNED over Hitler's Socialism" video.

I heard one of them calling him Teelk. I guess TIK is a member of SG-1.
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@finlaymcdiarmid5832 Hitler viewed the USA as one of her biggest enemies. America was the Capitalist Capital of the World in his eyes. Like how the USSR was the Marxist Capital of the World. Hitler viewed the USA and the USSR as his biggest threats, enemies of the Reich. Hitler was far from a Capitalist, he made that clear so many times. The fact anyone would say he was a Capitalist is lunacy. Sure you can argue he wasn't a Socialist, but arguing that he was a Capitalist is nuts.
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It's also why they use phrases like counter revolutionaries when referring to opposition. Because rebelling against an Oppressive regime instated by revolutionaries makes you not a rebellion. "You're not real revolutionaries!!" It's all madness.
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America's fall started all the way back with Woodrow Wilson, not surprisingly an academic and racist turned Social Democrat. He nationalized American finance Federal Reserve, among other things like the Federal Trade Commission.
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They're also throwing insults, and not even countering TIK's claims but dismissing them much of the time by rambling.
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If they were being intellectual to begin with.
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@punksnotdeaditsconservativ1693 Yes, that is why I said he nationalized finance. He was also a darwinian style racist and a big supporter and teacher of Lost Cause version of the American Civil War.
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@punksnotdeaditsconservativ1693 Btw I wouldn't call him a communist. He was pro Nationalist and pro democracy. He was a social democrats in short.
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IG Farben "The State within a State." Also a publicly traded company who was forced by the State to Aryanize and also Join the Nazi Party itself. Brilliant choice. Squarely had nothing to do with being a Privately owned Capitalist company.
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@Polinkazh Name a Corporation in existence today in which the State forced board members off it for being Jewish? Heck name a Corporation today in which the State forced the board to remove any members for any reason? I could only imagine a Corporation today also having the Party Thugs like the SS working in their facilities. Which they did. They were well entwined with the Nazi Party.
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@Polinkazh Oh god. xD Yes IG Farben totally supported the Nazis thinking they could control them like stereotypical dirty money grubby capitalist, that is why a board with a lot of Jewish members chose to support a party that was insanely anti Jewish. Only for the Nazis to kick them in the jaw, throw them all out of their own company, and privatized the company into the hands of Nazi Party Loyalist. Totally a great example of Capitalism. Being totally sarcastic hear but you brought up conspiracy theory nonsense Far removed from the reality of the situation they ended up facing. Yes Corporations will support political parties, that is a no brainer. But the State never takes over the Corporation if it's pro capitalist system, which is what ended up happening with IG Farben. It wasn't direct central control but still control none the less.
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@Polinkazh And you're sure you're not the one being effected by the Distortion of Reality he preached? Because if my reality is distorted, I would be on the side of the major Corporations, which my political views are not. If we go by political leanings the vast majority of major corporations today support leftist political views. So if I was part of the ideological bubble that requires reality glasses, I would be supporting the majority view. But leftism is the Default view people are raised to have today through TV, Movies, Magazines, News, Corporations, and Schooling. Maybe you're the one with the lack of reality glasses. Best example I can think of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRVgsn59WSs
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@Polinkazh So I guess when the Nazis say Privatization they actually mean Privatization because I take their word for it? If I can take their word for it, they must be lying when they said privatization. =3 Capitalist is a class? Interesting. xD Also I watched the first video you posted prior to my original comment. It heavily applies to your viewpoints, ie you need reality glasses.
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@Polinkazh I guess Socialist are a class. Democrats are a class. Fascist are class. Standard Marxist BS in short.
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@Polinkazh I know what I'm talking about, the comment was sarcastic, ie mocking. You gave me plenty more ammunition I could use to do the same. For example. Working Class is a person who is hired/paid by the owners to work for them. By this definition even the CEO of a Major Corporation who is often not the owner, or even a member of the Board that runs the company like for example Disney is a "WORKER." Instead of a Capitalist. This is why the concept of Capitalist as a Class or Worker as a Class is just plain stupid. I'm making fun of your points because they're outdated, based on political theory created by a lunatic from 150-160 years ago.
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@Polinkazh Einstein denied the holodomor because even Einstein isn't all knowing.
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@thefrenchareharlequins2743 I normally sum up a Capitalist as a person that owns Capital which equals, land/property/money. Which in hindsight, is literally everyone in society. The concept of a Capitalist as a Class is utterly stupid because of that.
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No, people who follow the channel to dislike it regardless likely. CDS saw an uptick in subscribers likely for the same reasons. Trolls are everywhere.
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There is a book from a former Soviet Citizen who fled the Soviet Union I think in the 30s or 40s, I wish I could remember her name sadly, maybe I will come across her again. She wrote about the differences of Capitalism and Socialism, and decreed that Capitalism had never been achieved. Which is ironic because it's often Socialist who claim Socialism has never been achieved. Oddly enough it's the other way around really, most societies today are more socialist than capitalist. Capitalism is just the state letting people do what they want to do with their property, but even in the USA that isn't possible. You have zoning laws as an example, that restrict how you can use your property. I can not raise chickens in my backyard for eggs for example because my home is marked as Residential. Capitalism isn't the system we currently live in, and sadly not enough people realize that. You have to get approval from the state, to build a brick/mortar business, that isn't capitalism.
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@thefrenchareharlequins2743 Curious, do you keep bringing up the CSA because of their Post War plans to do a massive State centralized industrialization program, revolving around slave labor? (Ironically similar to Stalin).
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@thefrenchareharlequins2743 He makes very good videos when it comes to arguments against pro CSA propaganda.
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@thefrenchareharlequins2743 Well that's a doozy. Mike inadvertently supported Lost Cause Revisionism, likely because he's too lazy to read or comprehend what he's reading.
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@TheImperatorKnight It's the name of one of the main characters, an alien who's catch phrase is ending sentences with "Indeed." I do not know how to spell his name but I heard one of them say something very similar to Teelk. Could not resist making the reference. That being said, I dunno how he'd get a L in TIK. Also, no thanks are necessary. I'm not a contributor, so it is the least I can do in support of the channel. I refer to you as often as I can when relevant to a conversation as well. Again, least I can do. I myself in my more radical years was into national forms of socialism. I've not come across a Fascist or Nazi in those years that did not consider themselves a socialist. And know a lot more about them than most Marxist likely will ever. Like you I've since parted ways from socialism including nationalism. Thankfully it had a lot to do with individualism and my unwillingness to fall into racist tendencies which likely saved me from the worst of it and helped convince me that I was supporting groups that would never change. I could never accept that all of any peoples were bad either for cultural, ethnic or racial reasons. It was that line I refused to cross and a line that helped me see how utterly broken these kind of ideologies were.
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Because they're not criticisms, they're morons who don't actually watch his videos, then criticize the videos in turn, most often using arguments ALREADY addressed in the very video they're criticizing. If you watch this video in particular you will see why he makes these responses, every single point they made has already been addressed in the very video they were responding to, and he did this response to point that out, it's the biggest problem with people who are critical of his videos, is that they do not actually watch the videos to even know the arguments he is making. It is why at 2:00 he directly points to post telling by people in the comments toward critics to watch the video because those critics in the comments try to use arguments addressed in the video. Why? Because they don't watch the video, they see the title and rush to the comment section. The very fact someone made a Video response to his Hitler's Socialism video, bringing up points that TIK already addressed, is the problem, they never watched the video. They didn't even bother to do any prep work prior to making the video, their first time watching it was when they were doing the vlog, and they didn't really go farther than 10-15 minutes. I can put it bluntly. If you never watched a movie, or a TV show, why should you have a right to criticize that film saying it's bad? Same goes for a youtube video.
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@nunnie768 Moderate Socialist normally believe in State control of essentials. Like Water, Power, Education, Medicine, Emergency Services. While everything else including private property, business, etc are privately owned, in theory.
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State Control is Capitalism!!!!! That part broke me. I never seen someone make that claim before. xD
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@thefrenchareharlequins2743 He did, kinda this is a vlog style video response. Light years different than his normal spit/polish videos. Seeing that smile, I think TIK enjoyed it some times.
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Seems they went after Thefinishbolshevik as well with their next video. I wonder if they actually paid enough attention to your video to see his name, and decided to slander him into the mud to help discredit your video.
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He has been a few times. Posting one video already prepped for a next video to address issues he knows specific kind of people will have with the last one. ie he knows his critics better than they know him it seems.
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Thanks, I've compared Socialism to a religion. Like how Christian, Islam sprouted from Hebrew. Fascist sprouted from Syndicalism which split from Marxism, which itself split from Socialism. It's a tree of hostile idealist and intellectuals. Who always accuse the other of not being true Socialist.
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I think they're mocking TIK. There is absolutely no way someone would say TILK when seeing TIK. TICK TOCK goes the clock. TIK TOK goes the APP. No person would be so stupid. It's intentional. Seeing some of TIK's comments I think he realizes it as well.
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@dominicc3521 Every point they tried to make was addressed in the video they were bashing. When I others & TIK say just watch the video we all mean it. Normally because the person already tried to use an argument already addressed in the video, absolute proof they didn't watch it. 🙄
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Their video response was so bad, that I see no reason TIK shouldn't of made a response. It pretty much proves the point that these people do not actually watch the videos, yet then try to refute the videos, they can not refute them if they do not watch the video to know the arguments/points TIK is trying to make. If you didn't notice nearly every single point they tried to make, was addressed in the original video that they were trying to debunk. Which implies they did no prep work, including watching the original video before hand. They stood absolutely no chance whatsoever at disproving or debunking a video that they never watched to begin with, it's the primary reason TIK made a special note of that multiple times in his response to their video. They even openly admit they didn't watch the video, they say his definitions are rubbish when you can google them, and find TIK's definitions are pretty accurate in most cases. They failed on a scale that makes the French Army look competent.
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Anarcho Capitalism = a system with no state. Capitalism is a system in which the state does not interfere with the economy at all. A State can still exist, there is no rule under Capitalism that a State can not exist. Anarcho Capitalist want there to be no state whatsoever. Capitalist in general just want the state to stay out of their lives. If they want to turn their garage into workshop to make furniture to sell to their community they should be allowed to, simple concept, which is often not allowed by edict of the state.
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@jussim.konttinen4981 What I find tragic is when socialist and nazis use the same defamatory conspiracy theories, like the one mentioned above on the OP. Almost as if they're reading off the same hymn sheet. Kinda like how they believe in the same evil capitalist conspiracy theories that revolve around juices and bankers.
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There is a video on state socislized youth. From Italy, Germany and the USSR. They copied eachother. When the Soviets Nationalized the boyscouts, so did Italy, then Germany. When the Nazis militarized the HJ, the USSR followed. TIK is not wrong when he said they're singing off the same hymn sheet in one if his videos.
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I doubt he is an anarchist, as anarchism is a technical impossibility. Eventually someone will build enough power to create a state/kingdom or government within the chaos of an anarcho society, and in fact being anarchism = no society, so. Which is why TIK called anarcho socialist an oxymoron. Issue with Anarcho Capitalist, honestly, I don't think they really exist, as even the most right ring people I've seen seem to not want the state to be entirely gone, just there to act as a guardian against tyranny, not being the tyranny itself, ie a state that protects the people from itself, and acts as a protector of law. I think Capitalist just want the state to stay out of economics, which isn't anarchism, it's just advocating a free economy. Those who are Anarcho Capitalist are not capitalist, they're just plain anarchist. I think the term exist primarily for Anarcho Socialist who are morons themselves can demonize anarchist who do not want socialism, which to be frank, only REAL anarchist would not want socialism, as socialism can never be in any way anarcho in nature, if it was anarchism it would never be socialism.
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@peterschattmann8298 How the channel host behaved, post. I'm going to predict H-denialism quality arguments at best. I mean they already said Capitalism is State Control, in spite literally ever dictionary from now to the end of time would say the complete opposite. 🙄
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I used to be a Fascist for years, and TIK isn't wrong, Fascist were Socialist. Because of being a Fascist I also talked with many Nazis round the same time, outside of the idiots in the comments you'd often find, TIK referred to as "Grunts" in this video, those on actual forums who actually understood Fascism and Nazism were Socialist to the core. Youtube also used to be filled with channels with local Nazi Party leaders posting tons of videos on the subject as well, sadly most of have been purged from the platform. There is no better way to sum it up than looking at Black Nationalism during the Civil Rights movement. A pro Marxist, antisemitic movement which often associated itself with people like George Rockwell (American Nazi Leader). Yet the forebears of Black Nationalism today are exclusively on the left, yet most of their views haven't changed at all. I've since turned on Socialism entirely though so.
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@aad6613 showing faces is irrelevant. I care more about the lack of arguments not already brought up in the video. Their arguments were already addressed as the didn't watch the video to know so they made themselves look foolish by not refuting anything as their arguments are already countered.
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@juliantheapostate8295 Ya I had no idea how it was spelled. I've not watched that show since it was canceled. But still, how did he get an L? Lol
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@TheImperatorKnight Just remember they have 69 Subscribers, some of which likely just to follow the channel for laughs. You're running on 200,000 hopefully in the near future. I think a lot of people are listening, there will always be people with their heads in the sand.
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Starving billionaires. Exactly why Lenin heavily inflated the currency, to destoy capital, force people to stop using money, it ended up just putting people into absolute poverty, and starvation. TIK explained it well, money holds/last longer than eggs, and potatoes. Barter requires something to trade, farmers have it the worst as what they create, doesn't last forever, sometimes not even a week. So what do farmers barter, spoiled milk, rotten eggs, moldy vegetables? Money/Capital was the greatest invention that humanity created.
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Technically yes. State owned Utilities. (Power/Water). State Owned Roads. State Owned Medicine. etc etc. Example that was used when I was in highschool was how France, the Government owns the Electrical Utilities, same story for the State of California as well, Water and Power utilities are owned by the State of California. State Education State Hospitals State Roads State Water State Power State Regulations State Police State Fire Departments (1840-70s most fire departments went from private and were converted to public by their local cities) etc etc etc Taking control away from the private citizen, and into the hands of the State. Why? Socialist believe the private sector isn't responsible enough or too self, and specific aspects of society should be government/owned by the state on our behalf. So despite what some Socialist say, they're pro State. That is the most mild example of Socialism. Totalitarianism is when Socialism hits the most extremes, when the State pretty much owns everything. Hence the name, Totalitarian, Total Control. You have no home, you live in an apartment or home with the State's regards, ie the state built it, and allows you to live there. Totalitarianism is impossible without Socialism. So if someone calls a country Totalitarian they're defacto calling it a Socialist state whether they realize it or not. Good example, you can look up the history of the development of modern Fire Departments. They started out often originally as private or volunteer brigades. They were later collectivized into the hands of the local cities and became State owned Public Services. Which became pretty much a standard world wide. Some of the earliest examples even date back to the days of the Roman Empire. In London in particular people paid a subscription so to speak which was part of their property insurance plans, which the insurance companies would pay private fire brigades for their services during times of fires. This was before the City ever took control of Fire Fighting. This is why Socialist praise State works programs by Mussolini and Hitler, and other Social programs, in spite denying they're Socialist. They call them State Capitalist, because they're not socialist yet state control? Yet they praise their social programs..... heck even the original Star Trek had an whole episode which praised the Nazi Germany's economy from the 1930s, and Gene Robbenberry was an avid Socialist, which is why he made Next Generation's Earth literally a utopian socialist paradise. Just one of those funny things, even Bernie Sanders mentioned Hitler's social programs during one of his campaign speeches, it's kinda a socialist meme. "Lets praise Nazi Social programs" then "Deny they're socialist." Was always a funny thing when I was growing up.
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I see people didn't listen and rushed to ODS's channel anyways.
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I would like to see it. I know some of his counters to the Marx's antisemitism are valid points but honestly with reflection irrelevant when you remember Marx believed Jews could change. So.... it doesn't really change. I do remember one argument defending Marx as Marx was trolling, but even then his attempts when taken literally lead to bad results like Hitler.
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It's really bad near the end when they literally get the definition of capitalism wrong, so wrong they literally stated the opposite of capitalism as capitalism. Dictionaries do not exist for these people.
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I'm pretty sure it's intentional. Demoralizing is a tactic often used by these kind of people. Insulting people, discrediting people, flaming people, attacking people's self importance. They're likely doing it on purpose. Either that, or they're literally that stupid.
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I was a socialist, then a Fascist, and leaned Nazi minus the racist aspect. Abandoned Nazism when I realized you could never separate it from the racism, and then left Fascism when I stopped being a socialist, I can promise, when talking to people that knew these ideologies well and supported them, they were all socialist. Only fools, or the ignorant believe they were not Socialist. Those who are not, either are lying, or are that themselves.
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Finally got home to watch this in full. Conclusion. They didn't watch the video, not in the slightest before making their response. They did not even prepare any arguments beforehand. So many points they tried to make were already addressed in the original video. BTW: THANK YOU for mentioning this 32:53 So many National Socialist and Fascist I've come across completely disassociate themselves with these "Grunts" and Neo Nazis, they're not Nazis. They're often just racist or nationalist who strike up the banner knowing it pisses people off, but they're not actually Nazis. Real Nazis would make these kind of people disappear the very moment it's convenient to do so, like what happened to the SA who performed the same roll for the Real Nazis. Some of them have even said that Neo Nazis would be some of the first to go, right out of the mouths of actual Nazis. It's why they're called Neo Nazis, as they're pseudo Nazis, NOT Nazis. There are reasons they can not even pronounce Nazi slogans, say Sig Heel (Mispronounced phrase) while walking around with Tikki Torches.
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Serious question TIK. In the original video you mentioned Hitler learned that Juices created Capitalism from Marx. You cited from Mine Kamphy Chair. I never finished that book for how hard it was to stomach. You seemed to paraphrase it rather than quoting it. Was it from that book or elsewere? Why I'm so interested is because I feel it wasn't pressed hard enough in the video. As if it's true, it would imply Marx was the catalyst for the big H.
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@joebobhenrybob2000 What is best, I can explain why Social Nationalism is Fascism reborn through convergent evolution, or how Black Nationalism has Marxist and Nazi ties, or why we have communist that have Nazi Flags ( I call them communazis) but with the hammer and sickle..... they can't without dismissing them all. Orwell knew it it is why the last paragraph of "What is Fascism?" He spells it out that Fascism was a form of Socialism indirectly when referring to socialist of every colour having to make admissions.
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Because the people who made that video are the very kind of trolls that haunt the comment section. He posted a few examples of two said trolls in this particular in the video. He then reacts to a video by people who are exactly the same, so people can see how big of lunatics they actually are. The point is "They don't watch the videos." They bring up arguments TIK has addressed in the videos, and because they don't actually watch the videos, they make fools of themselves bringing up points TIK has already addressed, rather than real arguments.
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Was honestly wondering when someone was going to make a counter video. What we got was a lazy Tim Pool style group vlog but with zero of Tim's charisma. I was so disappointed.
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mike mcmike But Libertarianism is a left wing movement. Which only gains support from conservatives because of it's pro individual anti state stance. But it's origins as a movements is rooted in Marxism, the original Libertarians were Marxist. So by accusing him of being a libertarian and using a libertarian narrative, you're claiming other socialist are not liberal, nor left wing. Libertarianism is literally the purist form of liberalism currently in existence as well.
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mike mcmike Nah, I just got you to respond the way I wanted to. Which is all I needed. So tootles. = 3
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@nikolatomic5287 They allied against the Weimar Republic in the Reichstag. ie helped organized union strikes, limiting the Social Democrats power. They were able to as a group collectively cripple the Weimar Republic's government, which lead to Hitler being able to bully himself to the position of Chancellor, which was pretty much Vice President. Being his party was larger than the communist, and getting him under foot as Hindenburg hoped would get control of the Reichstag again. But.... Hindenburg died, and guess who was next in line?
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Corporations technically can never be privately owned. Even if it's a group of owners, it's still collectively owned, and can never be considered private. Even if the original owner holds majority share, it's still not privately owned. There are reasons these companies have CEOs, and boards, who basically act like a pseudo government, making democratic decisions within the company. TIK isn't wrong when he said Corporations are mini states within the Greater State. They operate/function exactly the same way. Some even go so far to share collective ownership with employee's by offering them shares in the company, in turn making them part owners, something Amazon has done in the past, which is why I find it ironic that leftist hate Amazon so much. Which means for those employees, they are part of the company well beyond just working there.
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You know I just came across a recent video by Owning Dishonest Shills. You'd be surprised what his newest videos are about.
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The Anti Defamation League has refuted those claims as nothing more than an internet conspiracy theory.
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