Comments by "Kameraden" (@Alte.Kameraden) on "If You Want World Communism — Prepare For War. Military Training in the USSR" video.

I remember a Socialist once told me Socialism includes everyone in society. That movements who excluded people from their Socialist vision are not real Socialist. My response was. "Then what do you do with people who do not want to be part of your Socialist vision?" They replied that they could be educated to agree with it. "And if they refuse?" They can be made to learn. "So re-education camps? Gulags? Concentration Camps? Prison?"
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@oscarosullivan4513 Not really. White collar still = working class they're not the land owners or business owners. They're the clerks/office workers. Issue being is, what do you do about the farmers? What do you do about small business owners? What do you do about Shareholders which can often include the workers of a company which are paid bonuses in shares of the company? What do you do about Libertarian who spit in the face of Collectivism entirely? Issue is, only a minority of people are full blown socialist. Once push comes to shove most people will resist it, definitely once it starts effecting their lives. The poor in Russia for example were quite supportive of the revolution, until the Red Army came knocking at their door demanding stuff as the State believed your Tractor you worked hard/bought was better suited to be used somewhere else that wasn't as productive because they had no tractors. I mean this is the result Orwell eventually came to. Despite some claiming that Animal Farm and 1984 are about Fascism. It's in actuality a narrative of how Socialism becomes Fascism. At this time Orwell was not exactly very fond of Socialist Revolutionaries and was far more critical of the Soviet Union than he ever was the Fascist. Despite himself being an Anarcho-Socialist in the 1920/30s it's quite obvious based on his later writings during the 1940s he became increasingly critical of Socialism. He kept list of fellow Socialist, worked with British Intelligence against Communist, and basically condemned academia for trying to white wash the Soviet Union. So bad was it that I've seen many Marxist call Orwell a Fascist in hiding. I think by the 1940s Orwell saw pretty much no difference between the Marxist than he did the Fascist. Which is why in the final paragraph of "What is Fascism?" he basically states "Socialist of every Colours" need to make admissions, when it comes to defining Fascism. He was implying Socialist are in denial on the origins of Fascism.
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@@ZS-ns6fh I can think of a million. Best being historically the workers, craftsman, business owners, farmers ie most of society has actually been opposed to Marxist Socialist nonsense. Liberals have been even historically also been opposed to class labeling as it strips people of individuality. Marxist have struggled to gain control of even democratic countries despite believing the majority is on their side. When in actuality they're and have always been a fringe movement. TIKhistory's video on why Oswald Mosley became a Fascist points out quite boldly that it wasn't THE CAPITALIST as Marxist would cry who kept Socialism down but the working man who rejected Marxism. You still see this today. Most blue collar workers in the USA are absolutely opposed to Socialism. Which contradicts Socialist's World View. Just about the only successful Socialist are Social Democrats and only because they keep most of the economy relatively free and normally still preserve classic liberal rights to man ie Individual Rights which are and always will be opposed to Socialist social and economic theorems which require collectivism.
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