Youtube comments of Mark Welch (@markwelch3564).

  1. Nick Ferrari giving tough questions to a Tory minister? It truly is the End Times 😳
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  2. "This is not the same party as under Corbyn" You've got that correct. You're Tories in red now
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  3. It stinks when politicians and media are so cosy This goes far beyond the BBC!
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  4. When a Tory says "we need to think of the Taxpayer" they mean their CEO mates, not people on salaries. Always remember that!
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  5. What should Sunak do now? He should admit his mandate is in tatters, and call a general election He won't, though 🙁
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  6. "Does the school have the power to limit what I say?" While you are representing the school as a member of staff, yes, they can do exactly that. You have the freedom to work somewhere else if you don't like the contract
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  7. It's almost like selling everything to the highest bidder has consequences...
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  8. In the context of this conference, "woke" is a word they throw around to distract from the fact all their actual policies are utterly terrible
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  9. Some will abandon him, but I fear many won't. They've committed too much of their pride to the cause They'll keep telling themselves "it just needs a bit more time" 🙁
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  10.  @garethwilliams4467  true, when they are genuinely illegal. Too many people misuse "illegal" to mean "foreign people I don't like" though
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  11. Someone needs to be the first to say "the emperor has no clothes" out loud
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  12. Let's ignore all that waffle and cut to the core of the matter Anyone actually feel better off after 14 years of Tories?
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  13. I can't wait for the day when it is safe to say "The best thing to do with Liz Truss, is ignore her" Need to get her out of government first though...
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  14. "Let the markets decide" While you can't put a profit value on a nurse, the market can tell you when they aren't paid enough If you struggle to hire enough, that's the market telling you to pay them more!
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  15. Mr "why don't they protest in parliament square" has no idea how often that has already been tried, and largely ignored
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  16. Powerful line at the end - it's only where Tories have control that the problems exist!
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  17. When did we become a country that protects statues and motorways with more vigor than we protect people?
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  18. If I can pose a counter question - given the list of catastrophes since 2017, who still thinks Corbyn would have done worse?
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  19.  @PatrickStarfishman  worse than Johnson? Worse than Truss? Sunak looks better compared to his predecessors, but turns out he's been fiddling the books to help his wife's business. Would Corbyn do something like that?
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  20. Liz - "We should be less dependent on authoritarian regimes" Apparently we should have home-grown authoritarian regimes so we aren't dependent on foreign authoritarians!
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  21. Sadly, I think the world is full of von Hindenburgs, and too many of the world's leaders will think they can "manage" Trump Scary times 🙁
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  22. The reform needed for the NHS is less private involvement, not more Shareholders don't improve patient outcomes
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  23. It's entirely fair to recognise the pandemic added to waiting lists The Tories need to be held to account for the massive waiting lists that had built up before the pandemic!
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  24. If the government can't manage minimum service on non strike days, can we sack the government?
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  25. The hesitation and desperation in the "what would a persecuted African teenager do" section would be delicious if it wasn't so painfully tragic for real people out there right now
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  26. I reckon Reeves did ask the question "who should Labour tax" - and her new donor chums said "everyone but us"
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  27. Israel is an apartheid state. If they don't like the description, they should stop doing the apartheid!
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  28. "Only GBNews cover the Reform conference" isn't that because Nige barred any other journalists from getting in?
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  29. Still cracks me up every time a Tory points out that the system, that the Tories have been in charge of for 12 years, is broken!
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  30. This "Giving priority to people with lots of money" might just be the most honest thing Reform have ever done
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  31. I seem to remember the mandate being new hospitals and levelling up. What happened to that? 🤔
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  32. ​ @Hyper584k  I would say moving away is an excellent way to indicate dissatisfaction with current policy 🙂
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  33. I had some concerns about his foreign policy, but on domestic issues he is spot on!
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  34. If Tory Boy is so sure he represents the people, why not have an election and prove it?
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  35. 'But I used every "pretend not to be racist" phrase I know! How did they see through my ruse?'
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  36. Farage is that guy who's the first to point a finger and say "they are staring at us funny", while also being the first to leg it if a fight kicks off
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  37. Charging for 'minor' ailments is a terrible idea. A lot of those 'minor' ailments are the early symptoms of major ailments. Discourage people from getting minor ailments treated, and you miss the chance to fix major ailments before they become major
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  38. ​@victo6755 I expect everyone who has compared Mick Lynch to Stalin to be packing their desk then
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  39. Tories: People should cook their own food Also Tories: If you can't afford food, work more hours Will there be time to cook after working all hours?
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  40.  @nick1065  I can't wait! We'll start seeing the government actually solving problems 🙂
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  41.  @branmaher6684  Absolutely every job that interacts with other people has a standard of conduct for how you address people and expected standards of politeness It's simple common sense, if you can't meet the expected standard of conduct, you need to find yourself a different job
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  42. ​ @PragmaticAntithesis if it doesn't tax the rich, then it wasn't really a tax the rich policy!
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  43.  @johnrussell3961  you mean it was all a con? From the Tories! Shocking 😝
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  44. @Tom as opposed to greedy people hiring people on wages so threadbare that they still stay poor?
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  45. "Who is Liz Truss?" Maybe they should have tried to answer this before making her Prime Minister? 🤔
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  46. Is this Chris "the liar" Phelp, who Mick Lynch called out for being a liar?
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  47.  @jasonbourne7499  "Take back control!" "Secure our borders!" Turns out the French do Brexit better than actual Brexiteers 🤣
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  48. So when is the referedum on the CPTPP then?
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  49. If historical precedent tells us anything, the threat isn't AI, the threat is idiot management buying into too much of the hype This isn't the first time that overly excitable tech journalists and investors have pushed a "magic bullet" AI tech breakthrough!
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  50. That was truly epic
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  51. @Fossil Fish Leg  can you imagine if someone on benefits said "I didn't need it but I claimed it anyway"?
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  52. Very disappointed in Sharon Graham - if you only concern yourself with only "local issues and trade disputes", don't act surprised when more anti-Union legislation happens. Very short sighted and/or corrupt...
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  53. I hope the RMT win, and they start a trend that gets other people better pay too. Wages have been pushed down for too long!
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  54. Most of them are reasonably well off, but looking for excuses to explain why they are not yet millionaires
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  55. ​ @SonOfExcess  we tolerate everything except intolerance and hatred. Your freedom of opinion stops when it calls for eliminating that freedom for others!
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  56. Any journalist who has been cheerleading these cowboys needs to take a long hard look at themselves right now
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  57. A revolving door between parliament, the banking sector and the media 🤔
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  58. You can tell the Tories are terrified when they send people out to the media that even the Tory membership have barely heard of!
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  59.  @WhatIsBacon  it's a very poor showing when the pro free market Party doesn't know the very basics of free markets 🙄
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  60. The Indian trade deal won't happen unless it is hugely in India's favour. The Indian negotiating teams are world renowned for pushing hard, and India is in a strong position to take as long as India wants Don't expect Brexit-saving wins to emerge from that discussion
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  61. The Labour party are now so Thatcherite, even the Financial Times are left of Starmer's labour. Our politics are bizarre
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  62. He says "should we do the responsible thing or the popular thing" after just doing something neither popular nor responsible 🙄
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  63.  @branmaher6684  Newsreaders have to read the news they are given to read. Diplomats have to negotiate the mandate they are given. Everyone who's job involves communication has a framework and standard they are expected to work within This isn't any different - there's an acceptable standard for addressing people at this institution. Meet the standard, or go elsewhere
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  64. All those things she didn't know? She's on the London Aseembly. Knowing this stuff is literally her current job!
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  65. ​ @Snookbone  if they were making me fund it, protesting "not my sport" is the least I would do!
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  66. ...and the bulb still won't be changed, but someone will gain a new yacht
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  67. If this is stability, I wish we'd had that "chaos with Ed Milliband"!
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  68. Yup. Privatise the profits, nationalise the costs 🙁
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  69. There were two people left of centre on that panel, having an intelligent discussion about how we can cover peoples basic needs in a sustainable and affordable way How refreshing was that? Why doesn't this happen more often?
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  70. My take on the final question: A patriot wants to improve their country A nationalist wants to pretend everything is already perfect
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  71. Andy is responsible for a big heavy coach on public roads. Anyone else terrified?
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  72. I think it might be deliberate - if both GBNews and TalkTV say the same thing, they then try to claim it's "the voice of the people" because "look at those other people saying the same thing"
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  73.  @kippsguitar6539  it's not about jealousy. It's looking at which way Musk wants to travel, and asking if we actually want to jump on his bandwagon
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  74. The other big problem for the Tories is the findings also linked the finding to UN membership Do you think they'd give up the permanent seat on the UN security counci just for the Rwanda plan?
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  75. If Lawrence Fox thinks he's getting a rough time in UK politics, maybe he should try being Jeremy Corbyn
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  76. So, the new rule is that taking donations from organisations that also support other parties gets you kicked out? Interesting precendent. Bet it's not applied evenly!
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  77. Heard a joke that's broadly related to the topic here How many Reform voters does it take to change a lightbulb? None - Nigel just tells them the bulb is changed, and they sit in the dark and applaud
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  78. Shame that we'll never get one
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  79. When have Tories worried about details, or actually making their plans work? Total lack of planning hadn't stopped them in the past, why would they start now?
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  80. ​@bilious-bidenI'd rather they monitored a mutual ceasefire, if they have to be there
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  81. It's a simple question for me - we are a wealthy country. We should have the money to a lot more than we do Do we make society fairer for everyone, and put that money into homes and public services for everyone? Or do we let inequality spiral, and see everyone but the 1% have their standards of living fall? We know Tories have always got more money for their chums
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  82.  @jasonbourne7499  There aren't enough French people driving to the UK to form a 20 mile queue
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  83. ​ @andy1way  we can get a manual job, but we can't get a manual job that pays enough to buy a house
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  84. I think the point around 15:00 is the heart of it. When there's a revoloving door between the party machines and the press, and they all turn up to each other's weddings, it really undermines the press as an institution holding government to account!
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  85. ​@jollylollypop1 well, it did have a meaning, but it's been devalued into nonsense recently...
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  86.  @branmaher6684  if your theoretical "Rascist Slur News" existed, then you knew what you signed up to, and yes, you should quit if you don't want to be part of that!
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  87. General Election Now!
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  88. ​@holdontoyourwig They shouldn't be the same, but if you want your bins collected you should pay binmen enough to pay their bills
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  89. Makes as much sense as the pro lifers who are happy to see children go hungry...
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  90. It's the same nonsense as people who claim that disliking the Tory party means you hate the UK
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  91. It's Shock Doctrine time 🙁 The USA is going to get the rough end of "may you live in interesting times"
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  92. @Believe-you-me-  alright, convince me. Which policy proposed by Starmer, Reeves or Streeting would be out of place in the Cameron/Osborne manifesto?
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  93. "Why does Starmer want growth? I genuinely don't know" I don't think he knows, either
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  94. "We want a no deal Brexit with a deal" I am seriously confused now...
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  95. ​ @Insecthouse and in the pyramid of victim status, it's wierd how often right wingers claim eternal victimhood 🤔
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  96. If being against raw sewage is being against the Tories, does that mean the Tories are for pumping raw sewage?
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  97. If he was thinking it through, he'd go do some robberies to claim his free dental!
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  98. This is what change sounds like! Rather than Starmer's 'change', which appears to begin and end at the colour of the party rosettes 🙁
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  99. That wasn't quite as bad as "we can't tax the ultra rich because we don't have the money" - but it was very close!
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  100. ​ @thekurgan3688  the Tories got about 40% of the vote. That isn't the majority of people by any stretch!
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  101.  @robertwilliams2323  sounds like you are still stuck at denial
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  102. I genuinely feel sorry for that last guy, who tried to intelligently tackle the economic and demographic challenges of reducing immigration He is going to have a bad time when he meets his new colleagues, and discovers their "insights"...
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  103. "We failed to build enough houses" and which party was in charge the last 13 years?
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  104. The usual talking heads on the tele have been screaming for protestors to leave ordinary people alone and protest the people who can do something So Greenpeace did, and now they are moaning people did what the talking heads suggested 🙄
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  105. Best bit was how deadpan he played it. They can't complain about overblown dramatics or silly voices It's funny because it sounds exactly like they do
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  106. I am trying not to be heartless,but Whale voted and campaigned for a Tory government, and now he's getting Tory healthcare Votes are important, and voting has consequences. It's disappointing that he's only concerned now he is the one who is ill
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  107. It's not just if you care, it's who you care for And the big two parties both take care of the same narrow group
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  108. Anyone else notice how Nick wildly seesawed between desperately wanting to be a loyal Boris supporter, and his instinctive need to brown nose someone who is influential and important? Poor Nick couldn't do both at once, and the result was both tragic and hilarious!
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  109. I am seeing more insight and wisdom in this comment section than I got from that panel!
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  110. What's the chances that if this struggles to meet it's goal, "Wan Dooton" is going to donate 100k last minute? 🤔
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  111. ​@davidcooks2379 you need a womb to give birth? What's happened to "biological reality" and all that?
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  112. Often all three...
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  113. I prefer Gary being in a position to call out bad economics in any party that pushes them. Picking a side in politics limits your credibility when criticising policy Let's keep Gary where he can hammer all sides if they have poor policies!
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  114. Let's face it, the sort of conservatism embodied by John Major and Rory Stewart is already dead in the Tory party The current Tories are the end game of the Thatcher project, and that's a wildly different thing from traditional conservatism
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  115. I've got no time for people who'd rather play party politics than get round the table" Says the Tory party MP, the party playing politics and refusing to get round the table...
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  116. How do you satirically kidnap and imprison someone?
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  117. If you set fire to an orphanage, they'd be more worried about the loss of property than the orphans...
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  118. How low have we sunk - "not as bad as Boris Johnson" is now the high point of recent political leadership!
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  119. The problem with moving from EU prices to world prices is we also move from EU wages to world wages...
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  120. I would rather see the governmnent issue bonds than sign PFI deals!
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  121. I am increasingly worried that Rachel "private sector growth" Reeves is just a slow-burn version of the crash-and-burn Liz "private sector growth" Truss Same focus, same end result, just at a less dramatic pace
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  122. Any figures for when Victoria Derbyshire did holiday cover? It was a much better show when she temporarily hosted!
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  123. I am totally on board if they want to stop the viciousness and character assassination. Welcome back to civilisation! But if they think this newly re-civilised debate is over? Big, fat, no to that!
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  124.  @manbearpig3231  Labour also caused the great flood. Noah still hasn't forgiven them
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  125. Being skint and needing to work three jobs to cover the bills doesn't give you much time for engaged parenting There's definitely a link to poverty
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  126. Showing any kind of human decency seems to get you pushed out of the Tories...
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  127. "Westminster has failed and we should abolish parliament" Maybe not abolish, but the voting system needs changing! Proportional representation please 🙂
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  128. "class war, in all it's full, naked glory" If you didn't want class war, maybe you shouldn't have spent 14 years crapping on ordinary people? Just a thought!
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  129.  @tonygange7636  The Tories won't represent anyone but themselves. How does it go? A Tory, a white cabbie and and black cabbie are sitting at a table. There are ten sandwiches. The Tory quickly takes 9, turns to the white cabbie and says "watch out, that man over there is going to steal your sandwich!"
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  130. Agreed! How long to we have to be stuck with a bad idea before we scrap the bad idea? Privatisation has failed
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  131. They've already done that, they are working their way through everyone else now
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  132. Our glorious Turnip Monarchy. Like a banana republic, but with wetter weather and an old man with a crown!
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  133. The most delicious thing about Taylor Swift specifically, rather than the wider point, is that Trump was desperate to drag Swift into the political campaign He needs to be careful what he wishes for!
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  134. So true. Next time, we need buyouts, not bailouts If the public funded it, then the public should own it!
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  135. I think my favourite bit might have been Mogg saying how much he thinks the government has failed Who is in charge again?
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  136. Being even more deregulatory than Elon Musk is insane and terrifying!
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  137. So her ideas are good, as long as you never ever implement them Did I understand it correctly?
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  138. Leopards eating faces politics
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  139. Are you telling me you never accidentally set up an offshore tax shelter? Surely that's a mistake we've all made at some point! /s
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  140. ​ @oldphrt quick question - did the Irish peace process advance through dialogue, or by carpet bombing Dublin?
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  141. This is the best argument for state funded research and development. Prioritise effective solutions over rent-seeking solutions!
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  142. ​ @ravd8082 you need to stop living in the past. If Brexit is important to you, 2016 is irrelevant You need to convince the next generation that Brexit is worth sticking with
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  143. If Braverman wants to test the limits of the law, could the Tories got on with testing their electability and call an election please?
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  144. ​ @PoldarkGodzilla I don't want Isreal destroyed, but I do want Netanyahu and cronies standing trial!
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  145.  @jjefferyworboys8138  I want a successful, productive country. They've had decades to show that they can invest in the nation and grow the economy, and they have failed, spectacularly If they've not got any better plans for that wealth than letting it go stale in a tax haven, why not tax it and put it to better use?
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  146. "We only needed one volunteer to arrest Braverman, but when 6 volunteered we didn't want to turn anyone down"
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  147. Which in true financial crash style, will just delay it at the cost of making it more disastrous when it does happen
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  148.  @lestrem11  While there are worldwide problems, some places have reacted better than others. Our government has not done well 🙁
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  149. I say the opposite. The SNP majority in Holyrood is despite Proportional Representation. Have you seen the SNP in Westminster? Under FPTP they have 90% of Scottish seats!
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  150. @Daniel Oliver  maybe I forget something, it's a long time ago, but I don't remember Brown coming up with a set of pledges mid-term that competely re-wrote the election promises
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  151. From the first minute I was waiting for the dolphin... 3:44 - happy dance time 😁
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  152. There is a DEI problem Donald and Elon's Incompetence
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  153. I think the big problem is we have newspapers that manufacture problems. Do we actually have an immigration crisis? If you didn't read about it in the news, would you notice it in your day to day life?
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  154. ​ @kev2b3 Vote Green. We're can pressure Labour to change, just like UKIP changed the Tories (but in a better direction)
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  155. Suella has school mates in the Rwandan government. I smell a scam at our expense
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  156. The Tories have sailed past the threshold of "being a public nuisance" Can they all be arrested now?
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  157. Which uses more oil per kilowatt, wind farms or oil fired electricity generation?
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  158.  @unatwomey7112  I don't want an independent media, I want a very dependent and accountable media that answers to ordinary people, and not billionaires That's subtly different to independent 🙂
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  159. 10 to 20 minutes seems to be the sweet spot for factual channels, based on the channels I follow. Enough time for some depth without being a large time commitment
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  160. And it took an undemocratic emergency lordship to make it happen. Accountability is in tatters 🙁
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  161. EU membership was vital to our economy. Sure, the Tories skimmed all the cream off and the wealth wasn't shared fairly, but money was there Now, the wheels are coming off, but the Tories still expect all the cream and refuse to change. All the cost of living problems are only going to get worse under the Tories ☹
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  162. The centrists need to accept that they are not popular enough to stand alone, and make changes to build a coalition That will mean getting off the fence and picking a side
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  163. What happened to Truss promising she was on top of it and we wouldn't need rationing?
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  164. and blame Truss and Kwarteng, who despite their Special Financial Operation are still beloved by Tory party members 😳
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  165. Rishi's idea of an ordinary worker is really quite different to ours, isn't it!
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  166. ​@DavidZ4-gg3dm because the UK government isn't supporting Hamas. No point in asking the government to stop doing something that it is already not doing!
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  167.  @ecaeas4439  What's most frustrating is we genuinely had incredible soft power for our size. Now we don't even have that ☹
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  168. Could we be looking at a fourth PM in 12 months?
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  169. Well, Trump is either senile, or a pathological liar. Pick one!
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  170.  @jeffsuter344  the difference between Starmer and Cameron is paper thin,but at least he's not Liz Truss!
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  171. I would normally consider laughing right in someone's face to be rude This one was so, so so deserved!
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  172. ​ @artificialintel838  has Blackrock ever made anything it touches more productive?
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  173. But Angela "funny tinge" Smith is apparently still an acceptable candidate 🤔
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  174. Apparently transparency and accountability are "left wing" I am happy with this assertion 🙂
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  175. The government needs to stop cosplaying Thatcher and listen to this man!
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  176. ​@John Russell some of the undermining of the foundations can be traced back to Thatcher, although the cracks didn't show at the time
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  177. Has France considered taxing wealth so they don't need to have such high deficits? 🤔
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  178. Yep, I am so ready for boring and sensible!
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  179. Wish I could have a fly an the wall view of the next cabinet meeting, with Truss and Raab in the same room!
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  180. They aren't perfect, but there can be no doubt that Labour are better than the Tories!
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  181. Also the objection to "the state enumerating everything you own" But if you're on benefits, this objection suddenly disappears 🤔
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  182.  @Yournicked  Where the city centre coffee shop loses out, the one in my neighborhood gains. It's the free market in action - I thought right wingers were all for letting the market sort things out without governments interfering?
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  183. I keep seeing the shops changing - not because of an "invasion", but because the economy is screwed and people keep going out of business 🙁
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  184. Even "the interests of working people" is a bit of a lie. He's looking after the interests of bosses who want people to go to work, not the welfare of the workers themselves
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  185. What's happened to free market competition? There must be hundreds of people out there who could do a better job than these scumbags, for half the pay!
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  186. The less power he has, the more honest he is - wonder if that works across the whole Tory party? 😁
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  187. Yes, well done them! Passon my regards too
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  188. Yes. We don't like liars here!
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  189. Right now it isn't being run for businesses or people. It's being run for the benefits of overseas tax haven accounts
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  190. ​ @ednorton47  are you one of Ferrari's crowd, who don't like this Brexit, but refuse to tell anyone how your Brexit could be different?
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  191. What we need is properly targeted taxation. There is money in the economy, but it is stale and stagnant, sat in property and offshore accounts that won't grow the economy I won't pretend it's an easy fix, but it's the only fix. Get that wealth moving and productive and we'll see recovery start to happen. While the money is allowed to stagnate then the economy will stagnate too
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  192. Dismissing concerns about apartheid as "antisemitic" hasn't aged well, has it?
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  193.  @uemackay1592  what does "work together go get through it" look like? Will tax cuts magically fix everything?
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  194.  @NoName-ql1wk  It doesn't happen though! As long as there is profit to be made, business will happen. Companies won't choose "no income" over "some income"
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  195. I saw someone having a tantrum because they might have to actually contribute some tax
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  196. I am very sad to see him resign. I wanted to see his face on results night!
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  197. ​ @jjefferyworboys8138 I'll give you that - you probably can scrape together one million or two like you out of the 67 million people in the UK
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  198. "You're putting words in my mouth!" "OK, so what do you want to say?" "err, goodbye!"
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  199. We all know there's a union busting handbook Time to start working on the union-buster-busting handbook 😁
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  200. ​@veggie42 but they only tolerated Anderson while he was useful and stayed in his place They never actually respected him
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  201. "The benefits are being felt all over the United Kingdom" excluding on the railways, in hospitals, hospitality and tourism, agriculture, fishing...
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  202.  @elizaann1888  we could look after our own people, if the Tories didn't waste so much money looking after their chums
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  203. Thatcher is hated for what she did, rather than just for existing...
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  204. ​ @rorschach3397 but if billionaires exist, you won't be able to afford a home, as the billionaire will outbid you. They can own it and rent it to you instead!
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  205. I know it's rigged, but was curious to know how rigged, and to what degree we can judge the 'true' vote I got some answers from the video, so the vid did it's job 🙂
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  206. ​ @obajuluwaoluwatomisin3883 If I crashed the economy, I would expect it to be part of the public discourse around me If she doesn't want to be a public figure, she needs to stop appearing at public events!
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  207.  @dianeshelton9592  MPs who may have been looking at the growing tally on that petition 😁
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  208. Rats are intelligent, communal creatures. They don't deserve the insult of being compared to Tories
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  209. Prison orange would be better still!
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  210. ​ @william_marshal they are avoiding taxing the rich - it's in the video This will hit medium sized businesses. Shareholders of massive companies will be fine
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  211.  @clivecosta-correa2102  something something vaccines Jeremy Corbyn...
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  212.  @tonygange7636  we are staying because we love our country and won't let the people trying to turn us into Zimbabwe on Thames get away with it
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  213.  @evolassunglasses4673  policies like "doing promo shoots with fishermen when it's useful for a campaign, and then abandoning them when they're no longer useful"?
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  214. ​ @kevinb9830  he quit of his own accord already!
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  215. for bonus amusement, he represents the seat of Braintree...
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  216. How many £5 coffees do they think people drink in one day? 😳
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  217. ​ @museli_addict people just share with a flatmate rather than get married Same financial burden sharing, without the commitment of marriage
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  218. Anne Widdecome certainly speaks with plenty of experience in helping cover up scandals and doing damage control!
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  219. One idea that I found intriguing is extending right to buy to private rents If you've paid rent on a place for the required time, you have the same right to buy at a diacount as council tenants do
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  220. @Nick  even if you agree with what he says, you have to acknowledge Lee is far more confrontational than most. He's the opposite of a diplomat
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  221. ​ @chrisj9700 large swathes of regulatory and economic policy. Nominally such things are decided in cooperation, but in practice America says "jump" and Canada politely jumps
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  222. "Please look at people in small boats, please don't look at what we're doing to public services, wages, trade..." The distraction tactic seems to be too blatant to be credible, yet it seems to be working 🙁
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  223.  @austinbeige  America has a decent government for the moment, but the attacks on democracy are far from over Whereas in the UK right now, I can genuinely see the Tories (and especially the extreme wing of the Tories) being discredited for a very long time. Their support base is crumbing
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  224. It could stop being political, the moment nobody questions equal rights If the people moaning about 'politicisation' want the 'politicisation' to stop, just stop hating people. Totally in their hands 😉
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  225. Starmer might be in trouble, but down the road a bit, Wes Streeting definitely is! I hope Wes goes. Couldn't happen to a more deserving shill for private medical firms!
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  226. ​@clownofthetimes6727 have your wages gone up faster than your costs though?
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  227. ​ @joaniesimpson2016 probably both
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  228. ...and private yacht
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  229. If a sitcom had a politician more bothered by tofu than by violent crime, it would be rejected as too silly to be credible
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  230. You mean "needing a bank account at Coutts" isn't a working class concern? Colour me deeply shocked!
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  231. Labour's current story is "everything sucks, and we aren't planning to change it" 🙁
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  232. I can't see a way forward that doesn't end with Netanyahu and associates in an international court
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  233. Our tax system is one of the most tangled and complex in the world! We are definitely due a reform to make it less confusing. There's plenty of examples out there if we need to look for a better way to do it
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  234. We don't want a selfish narcissist running the country, so let's vote for Boris instead 🤔
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  235.  @Christinebanks11  and they happen the most on badly maintained lines. This isn't rocket science!
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  236. On a similar grade of doublethink, "the NHS has too much beurocracy, so we should privatise it and add even more administration, billing and shareholders to it!"
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  237.  @newblackdog7827  why? We were an influential part of one of the big players on the international stage! Now we are a small island on the outside of everything 🙁
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  238. ​@steveharrison76 he has a blind spot for people who speak like him and went to similar schools He genuinely had concerns about austerity, but someone with a posh accent told him it was harsh, but the only way to save the economy, so he nodded along in posh solidarity
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  239.  @WhatIsBacon  we are in the very odd position of the Labour Party understanding free market economics better than the Tories. These are interesting, crazy times...
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  240. ​ @jamesandrew1750  a small state, only just large enough to make sure friends of the party control all the business...
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  241. ​ @sonofsomerset1695 Reform want austerity and cuts to services, not many people asking for that...
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  242. Sunak is trying to blame Starmer for Tory rebels rebelling 🤣
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  243. He's not the first to stand on a beach and refuse to accept the fact the tides coming in, but the tide comes regardless 🙄
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  244.  @fontainerouge  and Biden had sane,competent people around him Trump has Musk, Vance, RFK...
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  245. ​ @pastlesandfish it's very right-wing - "the rules are unfair unless I win"
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  246. and not "it was wrong because it's wrong" - it's wrong because it's a libelous lie that the taxpayer shouldn't have to pay for!
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  247. Yep. He understands lending money, but doesn't have a clue about manufacturing, agriculture, trade and all the other things that make a functioning economy Other things, like people 🙄
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  248. They need to get their mitts off everything , as they are breaking everything 🙁
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  249. Race to the bottom. Keep everyone down 🙁
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  250. ​ @tenniskinsella7768 and yet, after decades of right wing government, everything is broken 🤔
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  251. The occasional one is known to resign...
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  252. ​ @Turbogaggers123  we spend our money, and we then have assets. I see no problem with this plan
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  253. ​@Gerry your food shop must be fun, especially in winter time!
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  254. Although given who Labour donors are nowadays, I am happy for their money to be pissed away in the courts!
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  255. This is an EU political news channel, so it's going to talk about EU politics 🤷‍♂️
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  256. "Upper middle class spoiled brat, doesn't understand economics" It's almost like he was looking in a mirror...
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  257.  @NoName-ql1wk  poor infrastructure and training is a bigger barrier though! We can't improve infrastructure and training without funds, and they have to come from taxes
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  258. Here's a possibility to consider - what if the current ministers are the best the party can currently offer, and there is nobody else?
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  259.  @Cotswolds1913  I don't see any assertion that they were being sold for income, just that Thatcherism wants them sold As for the rest, merely look at every privatised asset - now owned by overseas investors, and extracting wealth. It's objective reality
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  260. The artificial, chemically smell of freshly rolled out astroturf
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  261. Tories only win when they promise things they can't deliver.This ULEZ example is just the latest example in a very long list
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  262.  @jamesberry5578  She asked the official representative of the Conservative party, who the Party put forward specifically to answer questions on the economy Short answer, this is the best expert the Tories had available. How damning is that?
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  263. We had one, it exploded
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  264. ​ @SirAlric82 and hospitals were still run ragged, even with lockdown. I dread to imagine what our hospitals would have been like without lockdown...
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  265. @Sonney O'Brien  problem with most of those more intangible assets is they are unpredictable and high risk. For every megastar, there are hundreds, maybe thousands who don't make it Whereas you buy a house, especially under a government that is biased heavily to benefit property owners, that's predictable and low risk That's why rich people buy houses rather than sponsor artists and musicians!
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  266. ​ @user-xu5vl5th9n it's weird how Gove hates experts, except for the "experts" who tell him what he wants to hear 🤔
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  267. ​ @imagecollections6665 they are also landlords and bankers, no change there
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  268.  @MH7919  Oct 7th? A day so well known, neither of us has said what happened, yet both of us know? That denied and forgotten event?
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  269. Starmer already gets accusations of being Tory lite. Having a literal party of ex-Tories isn't going to help his case, so he's not going to accept any more
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  270. The "grown up sensibles" appeasing the far right rather than accept even a small step to the left How did that end for von Hindenburg again?
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  271. I am starting to feel sorry for traditionalists. We really need a party for them that champions traditional values without turning it into a fight to the death Quite happy for the neolibs to tear themselves apart and never recover though 🙂
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  272. There are no big donors for socialism, that's why it's barely represented in the big political parties
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  273. I've already seen people online claiming proud membership of the anti-growth coalition 😁
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  274. ​ @Ricky_Baldy  exposed is my preference. Full transparency on who is funding them
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  275. @WayT101  growing nicely, thanks for asking 🙂
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  276. "Spare capacity in the private sector", eh? But there is no spare capacity - private companies don't have entire hospitals set up and sat empty just in case the NHS need them! So you paid to grow new capacity in the private sector, when you could have grown the NHS instead 🙁
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  277. @uploadstuff  I've seen a lot of people follow that arc When you're short of money, it feels like money is the answer to everything Then if you do escape that trap and have comfortable money, you start to notice all the things money can't buy Part of me wonders if this is deliberately exploited - if you keep people in that lack ing money mindset, it's easier to sell the myth that Greed is Good...
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  278. It's the right answer. He shouldn't defend things he doesn't agree with, but don't give the Tory press a "Labour infighting" headline on a plate, either
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  279. Bastani is part of the biggest left wing media group, and it isn't super big. He knows how little there is past the centre
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  280. Of the cuts, cutting out consultancies is 100% a good thing 🙂 The rest of the austerity is awful though 🙁
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  281. "We're tired of it being wrecked by neglect, so we've voted for someone who will deliberately torch it for fun"
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  282. Keep him out of parliament so he can keep doing an amazing job holding MPs accountable 😁
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  283.  @Detector1977  and still some people say "but it would be worse under Labour" They can never tell me exactly how such a thing is possible
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  284.  @tonygange7636  The advantage of having people around, is the people. Right now we have more jobs that need doing than we have people able to do those jobs It is fair to ask why we can't house people, and why wages don't cover food and rent. If you own shares though, the dividends are better than ever! Tories look after their own interests, nobody elses
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  285. Good news is we don't have to pick one or the other - we have both of them 😁
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  286. I voted Green because I didn't like Labour's growing links to big finance and multinational corporations They haven't done anything to prove my fears wrong. Just last week they sat down to talk to Blackrock. Haven't they learned anything from the repeated failures of privatisation of infrastructure?
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  287. ...for Tories 🙄
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  288. He was basically confused because capitalism did what capitalism does, rather than what it promised it would do in the fancy adverts
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  289. ​ @denzel270 water would only cost that much if we accepted liability for their debt Why should we pay for the debts ran up by private incompetence? Let them go bankrupt like any other incompetent private business Buying the infrastructure would then be about a quarter of the number you estimated
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  290. Can we sack the government if they can't meet minimum service levels on non-strike days?
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  291. "I am protesting against bud light by buying a big pile of bud light" Genius brain doing genius moves there...
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  292.  @terryboland3816  indeed! It's something the UK gave to the rest of Europe. Why abandon a great UK achievement?
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  293. But not quickly enough. The smart plan is to build up domestic production, then use tariffs to protect the growing industry when it's established but not secure Tariffs first is back to front
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  294. ​ @dustyboi8975  I really hope the nurses line backfires soon. It's a confession that nurses are being underpaid!
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  295.  @fuckamericanidiot  aren't our political representatives elected to represent the people? So if they don't, something is going wrong!
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  296. Can we have immediate justice for Liz Truss, and make Truss and Kwarteng clean up the mess they made?
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  297. I am surprised they didn't try and blame tofu again!
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  298.  @jamesberry5578  If Labour ever tank the economy, I shall insist Labour are held to the same standard
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  299. We left, why are we expecting the EU to solve our problems?
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  300. If this plan works, great! If not, it's socialism or fascism. I want to make sure that socialism is visible as a viable option, so we don't slide into the other by default...
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  301. Love for the ultra-rich ones, not so much everyone else
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  302. I am looking at the way people's opinions change as they get older People now get less Tory as they age. Hamilton is a dinosaur who hasn't yet realised he's extinct
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  303. True, but I'd also have Rayner as deputy PM over any Tory 😉
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  304. @clownofthetimes6727  inflation going down doesn't mean prices go down It means costs still go up, but a bit slower!
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  305.  @anonomous8719  it has been partially privatised, and it got worse. Privatising made it worse, so unprivatising will make it better!
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  306.  @truthalonetriumphs6572  so you're saying the whole party is a disaster, and we need a General Election Now?
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  307. The policy is always meant to fail, so they can justify trying an even more extreme and oppressive one later They will never succeed while they still have more powers left to grab, or constraints left to tear up
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  308.  @Cotswolds1913  it's got the best internal logic - it simply describes objective reality!
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  309. I am disappointed in him as an evolutionary biologist to be honest Apparently he only looks at body parts, while completely ignoring behaviour. That's a very narrow view of life!
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  310. and wierd that they can find a team of twelve to investigate this case, when they're so short staffed for anything else...
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  311. Still scammy that they left it so late so she can't organise a campaign 🙁
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  312. Iain does seem to have had a change of heart recently! Please let's have more of this Iain Dale who doesn't let dumb answers go unchallenged 😁
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  313. I have a lot of concerns about the banking system, but fail to see how giving Farage his fancy posh person account back changes anything for ordinary people?
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  314. Wages are stagnant, yet inflation is rising. Your argument doesn't add up
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  315. ​ @paulharris1502 then we need to support every effort to get them on that list, too Taking everyone else off the list isn't the answer!
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  316. ​ @Lynnefromlyn  on the "losing jobs", if you are rude or unprofessional to colleagues, clients or customers, that's what happens. You don't get preferential treatment for the "right" kind of rudeness
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  317.  @grahamwade5932  the guy deserves credit for exposing what's going on though. We knew it, but it's valuable to have it confirmed by someone who was on the inside!
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  318. Well, as a nation we do keep voting for them... 🙁
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  319. @pastyman001  I am curious about which of Corbyns policies your centre-left friends were against?
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  320. Corruption
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  321. ​ @draveed because I can read
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  322.  @alipanroosendaal9503  what's wrong with that statement? Nothing is indeed a level they have failed to achieve. We would be better off if they had successfully achieved the doing of nothing. It is grammatically and semantically correct, and in capturing an opinion accurately it is objectively correct too
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  323.  @EmpiricalMind  That's very unfair. The EU respected every request Boris and Frost made! We could have stayed in the Single Market, but Boris and Frosty said no. The EU respected their request. What's unfair about that?
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  324. The geopolitics is very different now. In the past, America pushed their luck a little with their allies, and those allies weren't entirely happy, but it wasn't worth making a fuss Trump is going way beyond that line, and the reaction is not going to be so tolerant any more!
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  325. I have more hope for technocracy in a coalition government. Single-party governments tend to nominate ideologues pretending to be experts, whereas a genuine expert witb a proven record is a credible, neutral option to satisfy multiple parties in coalition
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  326.  @kimwit1307  Interesting! How do they square their "Britannia rules the waves, we're a world leader" rhetoric with being a pariah kicked off the UN security council?
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  327. We can't relax yet - we have taken the matches away from the arsonists, but we still need to rebuild Meanwhile, the arsonists will be looking to get a new matchbox while people with responsibilities are all busy rebuilding
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  328. Rather than obsess about small boats, let's stop the yachts!
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  329. @well well  it is to some people - they say we should have a healthcare system like France or Germany. You then reply "so we should pay similar taxes like France and Germany?" and suddenly they didn't mean what they said about being like France and Germany!
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  330. Keeping the tube prices down is a big win. It may sound quite a humble achievement, but the Tories are trying to wreck TFL. As one example, the Tories want to put ticket prices up - what's the point of a public transport system to get ordinary people to work if ordinary workers can barely afford it? Khan stands up for London and makes sure the unexciting things that keep it working, keep working
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  331. No, and apparently that makes us bullies, for wanting the person who turned up to talk Brexit positives, to be able to say something positive about Brexit 🙄
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  332. ​ @evolassunglasses4673  fascists will never be my in-group
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  333. And the animals looked from Blairite to One Nation Tory, and from One Nation Tory to Blairite...
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  334. 🤞
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  335. More austerity? No thanks! The way out of recession is to borrow and invest, not cut
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  336. If we don't pay them, they'll move to Australia. It will be even more expensive to tempt them back than it will be to reassure them to stay
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  337. Lots of nurses are switching careers for better money (or less stressful work) in the private sector. Soon we won't have enough to keep our hospitals going...
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  338. Why is it impossible to imagine this was a deliberate government plan? When they already have a reputation for scandals, why not use one more scandal to remove an inconvenient voice who has been pointing out that the government are complicit in war crimes? Their reputation can't actually sink any lower, after all
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  339.  @philiphaley5414  not that it doesn't matter, but that it's credible to believe it's an oversight If you paid half the normal rate, nobody would believe you didn't notice anything odd, but you could easily miss 1k in all the large figures that are involved in property sales, especially if all your brokers and agents say everything's ok
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  340. So true. There should be two choices - do you want to see it privately before you announce anything (and it stays private if plans change) or it's published publicly with the policy announcement No other choice should be on the table
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  341. ​ @vincentl.9469 other countries can pay doctors and nurses properly, why can't we?
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  342. I get so many calm and civilised posts about economics and electoral reform deleted I try not to be conspiratorial, but it does feel like the establishment is protecting the status quo...
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  343.  @steveo4991  sounds like a failure to encourage competition! In a competitive market you can raise taxes on profits, and boards will moan but not actually leave At the end of the day, some profit beats quitting and getting no profit
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  344.  @Caitlin7142  You can make a new party, but growing it to the point it would be effective would take decades, maybe more Look at the Greens, and how long it has taken them to grow to the still modest level they are at now
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  345. and at the risk of reopening angry debate, we did have global influence when we had seats at the EU table...
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  346. If they don't want to respect the 1st amendment, why do people have to treat the 2nd as untouchable?
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  347.  @atomicoranges8462  There's one in the video - people may already have family who are legally here, and they want to seek asylum where they already know a few people
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  348. Shhh, don't tell Dolan, but the Bank of England had to spend almost £70 billion to make that bounce back of the pound happen We can't afford to do that trick again!
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  349. "Realist" - All these fighting age men, coming here and leaving their families behind... Immigrant - can I fly my family here to join me? "Realist" NO! 🤦‍♂️
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  350. The common ground between McVey and Cameron is this - they are there for superficial appearances, but will actually do little to nothing
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  351. Liz Truss: Hold my beer!
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  352. Having a different point of view is not bullying
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  353. Looks like the invisible hand is giving the public an invisible finger...
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  354. It could be a legal quagmire ruling who can and can't donate. I like the racing sponsorship model - anyone can donate to political parties, but it needs to be publicly declared and transparent Actually sticking sponsor logos on politicians might be too literal, but is fun to imagine 😁
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  355.  @nickxcore74  it's wierd how many people say they hate socialism, then in the next breath demand that the system should put ordinary people first 🤔
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  356. ​@jamjam2833 so let's play along with your idea that the EU is collapsing The Brexit "benefit" is we get to collapse faster than they are? 🤔
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  357. Never working on weekends? Try "always working on weekends" When do you think planning and marking happens?
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  358. ​@gregoryjames165 Labour want to strengthen the law as soon as possible The Tories and Reform want another inquiry that will delay action by another seven years Who is giving the criminals protection here?
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  359.  @keith4518  Boring No There's a big red "find out more" button on the homepage of the Labour website
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  360. @John Russell  Their payback is awfully decent really - coming here and being key workers, and paying taxes. Rather different to what the UK did the other way around!
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  361. The rhetoric is really hard to distinguish from Cameron era Tory talking points. It's far from reassuring!
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  362. ​@TG-ts3xn why? If you want to work long hours for low pay, you can volunteer for that without dragging the rest of us into it!
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  363. It's obvious that they were hiding and hoping the problem would go away It's only when they realised they could be days away from the most horrific and tragic headlines that they panicked themselves into action
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  364. If you have this vital evidence, why aren't you taking it to the police?
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  365. ​@milkboccle The country is becoming a life support system for landlords and shareholders, at the expense of anything productive It's not just bad for the individuals who haven't had opportunity to grow their wealth, it's hollowing out the whole country
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  366. ​@chatham43 they have a plan, however it's (rightly) not a top 5 priority
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  367. Yes! Let's raise the best of all of us to positions of responsibility and influence, rather than restricting ourselves to the best (least worst?) of the 1%
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  368.  @bugcatcherwade9048  normal countries are part of their local trading bloc. By leaving ours, we're the most un-normal country in the world right now!
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  369. Tufton St economists are 99% wrong about everything
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  370. Definitely peanuts when we are talking house prices 😮
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  371. Obsessed with standards on strike days, but only vague jam tomorrow ideas about the travesty on normal days 🙁
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  372.  @johnsinclair2672  it's why they don't want to increase wages. They don't want people having any money beyond bare sustenance - gives ordinary people too much freedom
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  373. Well, the Greens are coming for Labour in Liverpool, Sheffield and hopefully other towns too If Labour can't change, there will be an alternative 🙂
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  374.  @llewev  If you can't run your business without subsidies, it's not a business! If it's an essential service, then it should be run as a public service without shareholders, and if it isn't essential then you need to accept it's a hobby, not a business and stop expecting the taxpayer to subsidise your hobby!
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  375.  @candorsspot2775  so what you're saying is we can't trust private capital, as they have been proven to be unproductive investors, and we need to look at more state investment instead?
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  376. I look forward to Labour agreeing completely, and renegotiating/dropping them as fast as diplomatically possible!
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  377.  @JasonK-gt8tm  we've had 40 years of selling off assets and narrowing our economy. Everyone is going to be squeezed by that 🙁
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  378. ​ @Neilhuny  if they laugh at Dorries, my regard for them goes even higher!
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  379. Rishi did, but unfortunately the Tory membership weren't listening 🙁
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  380. ​ @darthvadar441 Conmen are normally very well dressed
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  381. so Nurses aren't allowed hobbies or breaks 😳
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  382. ​ @iLAGnDC The external EU border is very tightly controlled It's only internal borders that flow freely, as Dover is demonstrating!
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  383.  @Tao_Tology  she was asked what she would do, so she whined and played the victim The actions are the answer!
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  384.  @RussellTurner  pretty sure it affects everyone. Tax policy is everyone's business for starters!
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  385. Tax is small fry compared to rent!
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  386.  @Truerealism747  There is no way Labour would ever do anything close to the Kamikwasi mini budget!
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  387.  @Jase29  who was telling us what?
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  388. "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money" was Thatcher, here in the UK Nowadays we counter that with "The problem with Thatcherism is eventually you run out of public assets to sell to your mates". Sadly not enough people noticed at the time 🙁
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  389.  @albevanhanoy  naturally - and the NFP is already a coalition, so they've already got experience in negotiating such agreements 🙂
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  390. Didn't they expand the exemptions for small businesses? If you're small, you're exempt from 5k's worth - that will be raised to just over 10k next year
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  391. Sadly some people have an unchallenged assumption that if you make something more business-y, it automatically and magically gets better somehow 🙁
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  392. Even if Reeves goes, is there anyone in Starmer's circle who will act any different? It will just be a change in figurehead, not a change in policy
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  393. ​ @b62boom1 if Tories want us focusing on how they are both vile and incompetent, then I am fine with giving them that focus!
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  394. I have some swearing in mind, but it doesn't involve allegiance 😁
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  395. ​ @Lee_303 if people are only Tories to line their own pockets, then it says it all really
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  396. From the Tory perspective, the only value Truss has, is as a scapegoat to load all the blame on Expect the Tories to blame Truss for as much as they can, up to and including the weather!
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  397. Naturally she wants to speak out against Tommy, he's stealing her followers...
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  398.  @danielwebb8402  we are a society, and a community. Nobody exists alone, and we want a government that reflects that simple, universal truth
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  399. Upvoted and commented for support. This needs to be seen by as many people as possible!
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  400. We should shut them down. Not by banning them, but simply by ignoring them til they go out of business
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  401. Remember when ISIS destroyed ancient cultural sites, and they were condemned by institutions and nations across the cultural spectrum? Reckon Netanyahu will be treated the same way?
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  402.  @Zizzy616  quite a few people warned in foresight too, although I don't think anyone expected her to break everything quite as quick as she has!
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  403. Is it softer than the rusty rebar barely holding up the school roof?
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  404. Nobody will ever go thirsty! Just don't ask why it tastes odd...
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  405. ​ @SteveOwen-e6s  if you haven't fixed anything in 14 years, and have actually made everything worse, you're not very good at being in government
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  406.  @andrewcockburn7484  yeah, the other way around is just "standing up for traditional values", apparently...
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  407. ​ @seneca983  Americas problem is it doesn't have contrasting parties - it has the corporate party, and the radically corporate party You get to vote for whether corporatations stay powerful, or get radically more powerful 🙁
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  408. Everyone famous would be forgotten if it wasn't for all the things they are famous for...🤔
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  409. I've not seen any increase in productivity there, just wealth consolidation
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  410. Definitely unfair on bacteria!
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  411. ​ @arthurharrison7675 most of us want a brighter future than turnips and cap doffing. When did our great nation of explorers become so timid and insular?
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  412. This isn't an endorsement, but at least the boat gangs are competent and able to deliver on their promises!
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  413. ​ @Dayrile123 if I had just woke up from a 5 year coma, I'm not sure I'd believe you if you told me about PM Starmer!
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  414.  @vincentl.9469  in free market terms, "proper" would be high enough to attract people here to take jobs, and high enough to stop the people already here from leaving
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  415. ​ @garyb455 how much wealth are they extracting, if their tax bill is £644 million!
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  416. I am watching the ZDF documentary, and one thing just struck me - I've now seen more of Burnley (where my mum was born) on a German documentary than I can remember seeing on UK TV Something is wrong with that, I think!
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  417.  @luckystripe672  Let's talk cost of living. There's going to be some tough choices made in government soon When Boris says "I have done all I can to ease the cost of living" does he really mean it, or does he mean "I briefly looked at it before disappearing off to play dress-up at another photoshoot then spend the night getting bladdered" Trust is important when someone is telling you there's nothing that can be done to keep the heating on next winter!
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  418. But Tories love free markets and competition, don't they? They should be proud to see their ideology in action 😆
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  419.  @mathewgurney2033  how far back are you thinking for that traditional functional state? Victorian workhouses maybe?
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  420. ​ @holycannoli64 I know you're being sarcastic, but it's objectively true - if you look back across history, every economic golden age was high tax and high investment. Austerity and/or trickle down always fails
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  421. ​ @richardgallagher4880  Free markets work pretty well. Shame capitalism keeps corrupting them
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  422. ​ @BrockSamson-i1i well, anyone who voted for Brexit on economic grounds is bad at economics - truly Liz Truss levels of bad
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  423.  @tonyb9735  so we really need to raise the average!
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  424.  @seang2700  the fact we've found a bigger bad doesn't mean the small bad has changed. They're just less of a priority now
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  425. If journalists won't, the electorate will have to. I hope everyone's paying attention to what these cowboys are doing!
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  426.  @stephenglasse9756  If Liz and Kwasi are such experts, why is the economy on fire right now?
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  427. Doubly so if you voted for the Oven "Ready" ""Deal"" !
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  428. It's a terrible false economy too. Today's children are tomorrow's citizens. What kind of country can we hope to have if we cut corners on education?
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  429. I will certainly celebrate if this is the end of Thatcherism, but I suspect Thatcher's greatest creation is ready to step in and preserve that toxic project 🙁
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  430. ​ @chrisj9700 so we need to encourage more hospital staff, teachers and builders to come here?
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  431. The quiet bit is if you have done a lot wrong, you do have to hide. They live by that principle all the time!
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  432. I know right? Is it immigrants making it hard to get a house, or the tiny group of people like Tice who own billions of pounds of property? 🤔
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  433. and this was one of those unelected Lords! The cheek that he calls the EU undemocratic
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  434. ​ @wessexdruid7598 the question you should ask is this - what % did MPs get over the same period?
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  435.  @peterah7957  You don't need to be in a political party to be in politics. Eddie and Mick are definitely in politics!
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  436. Trans people have had to put up with far more than they should, and I very much hope the hate stops
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  437. ​ @niceandcurly  concentrating all the power to a small number of people always goes badly, whatever ideology you use to justify it
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  438. He's constantly pushing back against Westminster. The Tories are trying to break everything, and he's doing well on pushing back
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  439. ​ @pickledaardvark1532  So what you are saying, is the Tories have found something worse than slavery for the lowest paid?
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  440. How's the price of those eggs going?
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  441. ​@pauldavidson1281 the only way to do that is to make everyone a worker-owner
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  442.  @jamjam2833  I am just trying to understand your logic. Even if the house is a bit colder than you'd like, wandering off alone into the snow is even worse
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  443.  @ThisisTerminus83  When someone tells you who they really are, listen the first time! She is looking after her rich mates, we all get screwed
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  444.  @PurushaDesa  I want to work harder like Mogg! If I rock up at Westminster do you think security will let me in? I need to rest my head down and put my feet up on the benches in the Commons so I can do lots of hard work like Mogg does!
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  445. ​ @thomashardy7961 to offshore tax havens 🙁
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  446. I will guess he's the sort of top-band taxpayer the Kamikwasi budget was aimed at
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  447. @Manic Miner Numbers are still lower than previous years when we had freedom of movement. The numbers are stark - it is taking far longer to handle less people
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  448.  @carlwhitehead217  I'll stand with the government when they stand with me. The Tories have made it clearer than ever that they want servants, not citizens, so they can do one
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  449. We can bet that neither the Hamas leadership nor the Israeli government are likely to be caught up in the violence of the conflict. The instigators rarely do, on any side
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  450. ​@ASBO_LUTELY are you talking about the posts where people conspired to organise an attempted murder?
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  451. I will be very shocked if he holds it. It's a near perfect LibDem target seat
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  452. It's a big alarm bell when people won't say out loud the thing they are thinking
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  453. It's sad, tragic, and doesn't get less sad or tragic after you loot a Greggs and a Shoezone
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  454. I can only dream of headlines like "let's nationalise all the utilities now"
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  455.  @Carl-hs420a  so where are these fresh ideas for a different Brexit?
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  456. So we can't call a banker a banker any more? I am confused!
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  457. ​@JH-lf4ql are Starmer wins similar to Brexit wins?
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  458. She wants more money in certain peoples pockets...
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  459. You used to be able to apply at embassies! It's madness that the government took that option away
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  460. But policing street crime needs police on the street. Who cut police numbers? 🤔
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  461. ​ @tisFrancesfault but those "targeted" strikes are hitting an awful lot of civilian homes. Not very targeted, really...
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  462. Absolutely correct!
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  463. Definitely responding on behalf of the nation there!
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  464. Poland's referendum is all a big song and dance. They like to tease their crowd with big words about the EU, but they don't dare actually say "article 50"
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  465. Wonder how hard Wes Streeting is panicking right now? He also has someone standing against him on a similar platform!
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  466. ​ @pzee9732  ...said Mussolini
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  467. They aren't offering champagne or socialism, so that makes no sense!
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  468. "What's the worst that can happen?" is a question best answered before you push the button
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  469. We could tax billionaires. Why tolerate people who are the first to claim the best perks and benefits of society, but are the last to reach into their pockets when it comes to paying the bills that keep society running?
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  470. ​ @Levenstone132  I am that horse, and also Lee Anderson's son!
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  471.  @chatham43  sure, you can vote as you will If you vote for the party of neglect and corruption though, don't act all shocked about corruption and neglect!
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  472. I don't see how we can let privatisation off the hook here - the profit motive actively encourages short-term thinking and kicking the can down the road on expensive investment and maintenance What else are shareholders going to do? Most of them don't live here, and don't have to drink it or swim in it!
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  473. It's not envy, it's that we're not idiots. Why should we listen to someone telling us to do one thing, while they do the opposite?
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  474. Unless you're the USA, China or India, you need other nations as partners. Even those big countries can't snub all diplomacy So if you're Georgia, you're going to have international links if you want to thrive. It's all about picking which ones are the best partners to have
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  475. ​ @JH-lf4ql an actual connection to the local area?
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  476. You also voted for MEPs, who voted for those laws
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  477. She might not have a choice about who her grandad was, but she did join the AFD of her own free will
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  478. It was directed at a very specific and narrowly defined person who self describes as "Christian" It says more about you than it does about Oli, if you see yourself in that crowd!
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  479. ​ @dylantuten6621 pre-planned logistics would either restock in place, or have a replacement take over Is there a replacement present?
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  480.  @coreydolan3239  there's plenty in history we should be both offended by and learn from!
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  481.  @deanrogers8381  punching down then? Figures
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  482. Meanwhile, someone from the Greens knocked on our door this week. There isn't even an election due here Someone's stepping up 🙂
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  483.  @andyhawkins9541  How does that help? The checks are the same. If you do them in France there's a queue to get off the boat If you're slow getting off the boat, there's a delay getting the boat back to Dover If the boat is late getting to Dover, you get a queue in Dover. Same problem, maybe even worse
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  484. Did the Greens come second where you live? If so,you have an alternative Did the Greens come third? Then at least you've got a long shot to try! A lot can happen in four years if people get active 🙂
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  485. ​@left_best yeah, but he's not a multifaceted liar like Johnson. Rishi has to stick to his narrow specialism
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  486. If you're really rich, most of your income isn't wages, but capital gains. They cap out at 20%/28%, depending on the type of capital gain
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  487. ​ @Jesus_H._Tap-DancingChrist I think even the Tories know he's bad, but he's the only one left who'll volunteer when it's really indefensible
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  488. ​ @trytellingthetruth.2068 that's about 4% Inflation has been between 8% and 11% - so the NHS can buy less this year than it could last year It's budget has been cut
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  489. Why are you so bothered about officers working to keep Pride safe, showing that they are on the public's side and want them to be safe?
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  490. @Robbie  how is sacking someone for stepping out of line the same as trying to cover for someone who stepped out of line? I'd also love to know how you equivocate that "standing on a picket line" is at all on the same scale as "millions of pounds worth of tax dodging"
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  491. @Robert Wallace  I am gonna call it now. I have absolute confidence that Starmer will sack any Labour cabinet member found to have dodged millions of pounds worth of tax
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  492.  @atomicoranges8462  like Don said, nope. The government has locked off sensible ideas like being able to apply at a UK embassy, because they are playing sick ugly games with the lives of desperate people
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  493. ​@DerbyshireBangers guess we have to hold him to account at the ballot box instead. I hope we don't let each other down on this one!
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  494. Let's find some economists who called it that Trussonomics was terrible before it happened. We should trust their opinion on this budget, not the Tory cheerleaders!
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  495.  @Lynnefromlyn  by all means, lets avoid extreme examples and pick a real one. Who has lost their job for having opinions?
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  496.  @Lynnefromlyn  this isn't China, we generally don't make people turn up to events they don't want to attend...
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  497. ​ @scarfhs1 rail and water are always going to be monopolies. We need democratic accountability for them, as there is no market to apply market pressure on them!
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  498. Apologies, but I can't see the disrespect here. Elizabeth II gave Harry that house, and Elizabeth II is the late queen. It's simple, honest truth
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  499. The Greens are the biggest party in the UK with policies to redistribute and make housing affordable. They're outsiders now, but support is starting to grow 🙂
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  500. ​ @howardchambers9679 Thatcher did say Blair was her greatest creation!
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  501.  @evolassunglasses4673  Tell me more - what's the roadmap to replace goods and services we get from the global market with domestic replacements?
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  502.  @Myrtle43  Israeli spokespeople do tend to be a bit arrogant and aggressive. It's something I have noticed!
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  503.  @kanedNunable  but we're already in the "propping up" phase. Next comes the "running out of schemes for propping it up" phase
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  504. And if there is a genuine immigration crisis, the crisis is we can't attract enough!
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  505.  @bobsmithy9024  they were on a totally different bridge 🙄 They could not be more out of the way while still able to film what was going on!
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  506. So Jenrick says we should celebrate British culture and success Also Jenrick - uses Wallace and Grommit as an insult 🤔
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  507. LBD highlight stories most are ignoring. Are you saying Oct 7th went unnoticed?
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  508. The companies and the government could have settled months ago. Blame them for dragging it out!
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  509. True, but left wing politics is about sharing control wider, rather than letting a narrow few monopolise it
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  510. Go ask anyone who lives in an (ex?) fishing community
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  511. ​ @freepress3788 MPs, or PMs?
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  512.  @royboy565  If I could play around with what you're thinking, I'd say a fool votes for what's best for their boss...
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  513.  @EmpiricalMind  Who is 'they'? We had MEPs too Moreso, we had very effective MEPs - we got around 98% of what we wanted. If those MEPs were getting us the wrong things with that 98% success, we needed to vote for different MEPs rather than leave
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  514. Whatever did or didn't happen at the top, we know it was someone lower down the chain of command who got thrown under the bus for it
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  515. @Try telling the truth.  if someone likes Marmite, I disagree, but respect their preferences differ to mine If you think black people are second class citizens, then there's no room for tolerance
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  516. The Tories have three options: - accept defeat gracefully - bury their heads in the sand and pretend it isn't happening - burn the house down on the way out They seem to be wobbling between the second and third options 🙁
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  517. ​@BillDavies-ej6ye unfortunately, while Labour aren't self-serving and corrupt, they are listening to the same donors and implementing the same policies 🙁
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  518. @S87 2020  there aren't people out there, there are many vacancies already unfilled!
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  519. Are we living on the same planet? Right wing government has failed on every category you list
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  520. but what have the right done with this knowledge, in all this time that you've known?
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  521. I suspect the reason politicians like it is it both sounds really formal and substantial, while also being incredibly easy to manipulate to suit their narrative "We made the impressive sounding number go up!" (by manipulating what does and does not count towards the figure)
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  522.  @rjkmusicmedia  when holding a piece of paper is illegal protest, illegal industrial action isn't violence
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  523.  @famalam943  so what you're saying is it's all OK if the Daily Mail says it's OK, but it's bad if the Daily Mail says it's bad?
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  524. Indeed. Prayer of all faiths better be treated the same way, otherwise this is deeply suspicious
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  525. ​@jeffsimon9594 not a bad shout, that!
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  526. Yep. Happy to say I had him wrong when I first saw him!
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  527. A few days ago, done already
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  528. ​ @MrDunkycraig we shouldn't bail them out, we should buy them out (cheaply, as it is a failing company without the investment) and run it as a strategic state industry rather than having it generate profit for overseas capital
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  529. ​​ @anglewoden our politicians in every party need to be honest - we need immigration Without immigration, at best we get to be Japan, where people under 40 are almost all overworked and overstressed. At worse we get to be the North Korea of Europe Are you happy to welcome Japanese overwork culture? Are you confident we won't end up as North Korea?
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  530. Shame his own minister says none of the proposed laws would make any difference to this dispute 🤣
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  531. Not sure if I'm ready for compassion for the conmen, even if they found running a massive con to be hard in their mental health Maybe try not running a massive con then? 🤔
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  532. Florence grew up in a family with four houses in three different countries. Can't imagine she was having to choose between heating and eating!
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  533. Once safely in opposition, Tory Leader Braverman would be pure, joyous schadenfreude 😁
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  534. ​ @karo2090 threaten to burn my street down, and you can go to jail. Don't matter if you were the boots on the ground or a recruiter behind a keyboard Play daft games, win daft prizes
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  535. Both Labour and the LibDems are proposing closer alignment and rebuilding relations if they are government, but it's going to take more than one term of Parliament, no matter who is governing. We need to prepare long term plans if rejoin is going to happen
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  536. I'd agree with boring, perhaps over-cautious. I'm no great Starmer fan Trying to pretend he's an idiot is utterly daft though!
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  537.  @JS-ny5du  which rules aren't working?
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  538. Tories are bad for everyone but their Eton chums 🙁
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  539. ​ @andybrice2711 while the government does have to step in to fix the infrastructure, I see no reason why the government has to inherit private debt
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  540. ​ @michaelathanasiou2030 you mean the EU doesn't think sewage in rivers and on beaches should be acceptable? I am with the EU on this one
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  541.  @philiproscoe2968  That door was always open, but very far away. We added locks to the big, nearby door, while the other doors stayed the same
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  542. ​ @stormyweathers9887 nurses are definitely more productive than hedge fund managers, but our tax system seems to have it the other way around 🤔
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  543.  @bugcatcherwade9048  if you want to be successful, you need to think big - if you don't, your choice is which big player to follow along behind The EU is the only big player formed by democracy and cooperation rather than military conquest. That's something pretty special! I would rather be part of the democratic superpower than be small and isolated
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  544. The cynic in me notes that 'being dead' removes you from the waiting list...
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  545. Reform has more MPs than members, and all of those members are shareholders who get rich when wages stay low Are they really going to change things?
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  546.  @physiocrat7143  just checked, can't see the EU torching it's own supply chains with macho posturing You'll have to explain that equivalence to me please!
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  547. Stop theatening me with nice things!
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  548.  @neyson220293  When will this magical wage rocket happen? They've had more than a decade now, still waiting!
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  549. The Greens saw this budget black hole. If a small party saw it, what's Labour's excuse?
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  550. ​ @vincentblack7467  this is the nature of a free and open society - even idiots are free to voice an opinion Doesn't mean we have to endorse them though!
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  551.  @ProblematicBitch  agreed. We are supposedly one of the richest countries in the world. Rather than asking "where will the money come from?" we should be asking "where is all the countries wealth disappearing to?"
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  552.  @davidedwards1336  were you paid to say that, or are you genuinely insane?
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  553. and "more powerful" is marketing spin. Designs have improved a lot since then, so often you're not getting better cleaning with the high power model, you're just racking up a bigger electricity bill!
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  554. ​ @terrysmith5168  The Tories are a massive security risk. We should worry about that one first!
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  555. ​ @skasteve6528 I think that's Iran's point - they are asking Netanyahu how confident he is that the USA is happy to write a blank cheque I think Netanyahu would be very silly to assume the USA has bottomless willingness to throw money at saving Netanyahu's pride and career
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  556. Still concerning that there's no place in the Labour party for anyone left of Mandelson, but there is room for Elphicke, even if only short term!
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  557. That could be counterproductive. If it's easy to go, it's easy to come back Make it hard, and people will still go, but they have to invest more effort. All that sunk cost makes it more likely to be permanent
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  558. The EU, where you get arrested for corruption? Sounds like something we should try in the UK!
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  559. Well that's easy - open a processing centre in France, and let valid asylum seekers travel on the ferry. Job done!
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  560. Sounds like a good idea! When are we getting that fair days pay?
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  561. Not Brown - Osborne Hard to believe, but Osborne has given Reeves a glowing endorsement!
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  562. Sewage is now a party political issue, and the Tories are on the side that wants more of it
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  563.  @colinjenkins4213  They are cashing in everything that isn't nailed down and keeping the money for themselves and their chums It's what they always do, but usually they are sneakier than this
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  564. Too many people think democracy is something you do once every 4/5 years, rather than a continuous process
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  565. but we weren't successful, we were just kicking the bills down the road and hoping tomorrow would never come Now tomorrow is here, and those bills are now due
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  566. Let's have a look at all the subcontracted services being run by private companies. I bet most of them would be more efficient if brought back into the NHS!
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  567.  @hoxtondave9619  what did Blair do that Thatcher didn't?
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  568. A Green vote isn't a wasted vote - you won't get a Green MP, but you will send a message that Labour can't take the left for granted any more!
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  569. ​ @mike-A299  that's very admirable for the one or two that did work their way up, but in truth most CEOs are where they are because mummy and daddy opened the doors for them
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  570. "With our resourcefulness, and our resilience, we will overcome this challenge", kick the Tories out, rebuild our relationship with our neighbours and Rejoin the EU 🙂
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  571. ​ @sovietspaceship we see the real skivers now - people who do no work, while expecting someone else to work to pay their mortgage, plus a bit extra!
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  572.  @jamespaul6315  Knowledge is a big part of the solution. The status quo depends on ignorance. Without that ignorance, the status quo is unsustainable
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  573.  @PhilBaxter  is he a hardline Brexiteer though? He's saying we have to make being out work, and that's just reality. We will rejoin, but it's definitely not going to be in the next parliament. Even the hyperEuropean LibDems aren't promising that!
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  574. It's wierd. The Daily Mail is one of the least trusted publications in the world, even among many of it's readers, yet people keep giving it their money and time People are wierd
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  575. ​@Steve C why don't we let them work, then they can pay their own bills?
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  576. ​ @sosimple3585 it's still tarring everyone for the actions of a few If a cis man does something horrible, is it right to declare all cis men are horrible?
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  577. ​@@Besthinktwicethere's definitely a contradiction in right wing economics right now The right: People should have more children! Also the right: If you can't afford the rent just work three jobs and have no life Because exhausted people are really going to want to add a newborn baby to their responsibilities!
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  578. Here we are, still talking about Palestine The people who wanted the story to start and end on Oct 7th haven't got what they wanted, and that's the point
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  579. I am sure Braverman and cronies have a plan to eliminate all the problems 😳
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  580.  @iLAGnDC  why would the EU care about people leaving the EU?
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  581. They will do the right wing thing of standing by someone while they remain useful, then dropping them like a hot turd Hot turd moment coming soon
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  582.  @TheDom277  if they manage to find someone shivering and munching on bread as even toast is too expensive, who sincerely and honestly says "yeah, but it would be worse under Labour", I don't know if I'll laugh or cry
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  583. ​ @RussellTurner are you trying to say the government doesn't change anything?
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  584. The enemy doesn't come on small boats, they arrive on private jets
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  585. You will definitely enjoy a very nice standard of living, but it's not oligarch-rich. Rich is one of those awkwardly fuzzy words We should tax the 100k rich a little bit more. We should tax oligarchs a lot more
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  586. ​ @TonySwaby212 evidence would have been great! Shame the Tories buried any attempt to look for any 🙁
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  587. ​@Keith Raggett if CEOs could follow your advice on debt and modest living, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in!
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  588. Can I get my Brexiteer Bingo card ready, and predict that most, maybe all the wishlist turns out to be nothing at all to do with the EU?
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  589. ​ @DarkHelixia  there's disagreeing on whether it's a drizzle or a shower, and there's standing in a downpour insisting that it's glorious sunshine We have too many willing to do the latter, and too many letting them get away with it
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  590.  @PFB-yo6wi  when the choices are a slightly flawed plan, and a spectacularly terrible plan, what can you do?
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  591.  @dtz1000  if you hope to retire in the future, then we need immigration. Without immigration there won't be enough workers to keep the country working
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  592. Respect to all of you! We need pull together to fix things. No point going over the past unless it gives us lessons for the future!
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  593. So you don't know the difference between commercial banks, and the central bank, yet you're claiming Murphy is clueless That's kinda tragic
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  594. Some might say 40 years in the making
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  595. ​ @wakey87 two points - one is that society is definitely under strain from a shortage of workers. Excessive hours is far to common, because they are so stretched thin The other point is while official immigration is low, there are a growing number of foreign workers classified as "long term guest workers" - basically immigrants in practice, but kept off the official figures through administrative fudging
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  596. Birbalsingh feels more than a little inconsistent here. I thought she was all about discipline, orderliness and standards? 🤔
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  597. The Palace of Versailles rakes in the tourist money, and France definitively has no current Monarchy
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  598. 100 quid wouldn't cover the increase in most people's bills. Costs are shooting up
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  599. ​ @andyisabeast7782  guess they need to ask the real boss in the Whitehouse, before the UK governmnent says what the governmnent thinks 🙄
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  600. Did you not see the bit about upgrading the power grid just for Rishi's swimming pool? They can sort out infrastructure when it suits them, but ordinary people aren't important to Tories
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  601. Clearly Tim Martin hasn't given up enough Netflix and avocado toast yet!
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  602. Nationalism, like all authoritarian systems, is all about wanting someone to take all the scary complicated decisions away. While other politicians make things complicated and difficult (because that's the reality), the authoritarian makes it all sound simple I am trying to word this as diplomatically as possible, as I mean it as an observation not an insult. There's a natural synergy here. People who want complexity to go away won't be inclined to dig into the situation enough to see through the lies. There will always be a proportion of the population receptive to a plausible and upbeat lie
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  603.  @huberticusrex  firstly, they didn't give her chance to, and secondly, would they have that authority? We do not want a state where police can move anyone they like from anywhere on a whim
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  604. The EU offered so many things that made perfect sense, like maintaining shared standards on meat and fish so farmers and fishermen could sell to the continent without a mountain of red tape. Why did Frost say no to that?
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  605.  @jake751  They put us here, but we all need to dig ourselves out!
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  606.  @jamjam2833  trade volume is reduced due to red tape. Adding red tape to trade is always costly
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  607. @Ben bear  are you threatening people with easier foreign holidays? Interesting threat, there!
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  608. @Ben bear  is that tinfoil hat comfortable? I imagine it's a bit toasty now the weather is warming up!
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  609. Watch the video and Oli will give you his thoughts...🙄
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  610. You can do a lot of rules-lawyer heavy lifting with the term "successors according to law" If we democratically and lawfully become a republic, the successors according to law are the people, via our democratically chosen representatives 🙂
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  611.  @terryboland3816  we did build on excellent existing foundations! This point still stands though - why undo our proud and worthwhile addition that we added to this legacy? I thought Global Britain was about celebrating our achievements and successes!
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  612. Tice reminds me of every ignorant, arrogantly clueless manager I've had the misfortune to work for He thinks talking loudly solves everything, but actually knows nothing
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  613. Agreed. I don't think we're missing much, if a candidate that can't even manage the low bar of getting a few signatures in each borough doesn't get to stand What kind of mayor would he be if he can't even organise that!
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  614. Either 'lie' or 'taking credit for things other people did'
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  615. So, when is the referedum on this massive constitutional change?
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  616. ​ @A-se2ur contrived gotcha is contrived
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  617. Trump did say Europe should do more to protect itself. This is all his idea, really!
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  618.  @raymondellis9955  ...if we are lucky
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  619. To everyone saying "we just like the trade", would you be happy with being in the customs union and single market without a set at the table setting the regulations for that market?
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  620. So being an EU member did bring money to the country, but the problem was it wasn't distributed productively So this man says we should cut off the money, rather than use it better 🤔
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  621. I wish we had actual economists. All we have in parliament are gangsters
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  622.  @TonyMaronie  I keep doing that! The wrong spelling just feels more phonetic to me 🙁
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  623.  @mattd5073  if you work somewhere with expensive housing, 40k isn't anything special at all
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  624. and let's not forget 5% is still pretty high. Are you expecting a 5% pay rise this year? If not, you're getting poorer, again 🙁
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  625. ​ @HiveFleetOni it doesn't improve trust in politics if we have to hope Labour are lieing about their plans...
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  626. To be fair to Bailey, we need tax policy changes to deal with inflation The BoE can't set tax, so they have to mash the interest rate button or they get accused of not acting The blame here is on the Treasury more than the BoE (Bailey is still collosally out of touch though!)
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  627. ​ @johnrussell3961 "far left"? Macmillan would be called "far left" by current standards...
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  628. No taxation without representation!
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  629. It wasn't furlough that tanked the Pound, the tanking was a reaction to a 100% Tory mini budget
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  630. I really hope people stop calling Labour a left-wing party, so the left doesn't wrongly take the blame for the continued slow collapse 🙁
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  631. ​ @DW-indeed but if Starmer was socialist, socialists would agree with him...
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  632.  @pauljames5079  I'd rather my taxes go to help refugees than go in Baroness Mones offshore account
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  633. Yet people still wonder why I am voting Green rather than joining in with tactical voting I know they won't win my constituency, but if everyone waits for a change, nobody will change anything. I am helping grow the Green vote so we have an alternative to PFI and subcontracting!
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  634.  @cupguin  Oh definitely, Starmer is better than what we have now! But he's a small step. I won't relax and say "job done" if he is leading the government. There are still so many problems he's turning a blind eye to
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  635. The EU is doing nothing to the UK other than standard third country terms. It's not punishment, it's out means out.
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  636. Like, just call them macho females and femme men and she'd be totally OK? (At least according to the views she'd say on camera!)
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  637. Braverman in opposition sounds fantastic! Even Starmer can win a second term against Braverman!
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  638. ​ @rjfrjf6121 oh no! People might send strongly worded tweets - the horror!
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  639. I'm amazed he found the time for Scotland, now that Dubai is his main focus!
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  640. Batteries aren't the only way to store energy. A very effective way is a hill or mountain, a lake and water turbines 🙂
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  641.  @physiocrat7143  that's like saying "Russia has an army, and Poland has an army, so they are the same" How you use them is a very important context
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  642. ​ @HoveMania because when there is a legal route, small boats are genuinely illegal
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  643. ​ @arthurharrison7675 most of us want a brighter future than turnips and cap doffing. When did our great nation of explorers become so timid and insular?
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  644. Yep, I am voting LibDem. No more or less exciting than Labour policy wise, except that the LibDems will push for electoral reform in a hung parliament They also have a decent chance of taking the seat here in North London
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  645. @jake751  can't say you're wrong, but like MrDesmond said, they want PR too. I'll take PR Tories over the Red/Blue Tory Tag Team!
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  646. Wonder if this interview was planned, or if it was a reaction to Zahawi name checking Campbell? If so, summoning Campbell by speaking his name was a colossal own goal!
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  647. Sorry Shaun Bailey, this can't be over until you can convince us that you aren't doing this elsewhere. Where else is there one rule for us and no rules for you? Struggling to find a compelling way to convince us? Not surprising, because we don't trust you
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  648. To turn the question around, what do we have to show for 12 years of Tory government?
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  649.  @Iazzaboyce  there will always be problems to address, but I am not aware of anything existential inside the EU
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  650. ​ @garyweston3269 it's not envy, it's self defence
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  651.  @pandapalace9003  The free market only works if there's competition. There's no choice of plumbing connected to your house, so there's no competition. Private ownership will never work for utilities!
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  652. I think the secondary point casually dropped in is a good one - even if you're not a Marxist, intelligent people engage with the ideas, not demonise an entire school of thought blindly More people should be like this 🙂
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  653. ​@Try telling the truth. They clearly saved enough, until Brexit moved the goalposts
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  654.  @trytellingthetruth.2068  They said they had plans to retire there. That strongly suggests they know what was needed before their plans got smashed into bits
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  655. Could be worse - could you imagine if she was here this week 😦
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  656.  @YA-hm5zy  so what you're saying is we have to get rid of Tories and Russian Oligarchs all at once? 🤔
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  657.  @jasonsmith9556  Labour ain't perfect but they are better by far!
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  658.  @rjkmusicmedia  totally backwards. Tax profits, and businesses have more incentive to spend it on investment rather than dividends Taxes encourage investment. Tax breaks only help investment if specifically tied to investment in the business
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  659. @candorsspot2775  private capital has had 40 years to get it right. How long do we do the same thing yet expect a different result?
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  660. Cheaper eggs, right? 🙄
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  661. ​ @alecdurbaville6355 reality is to the left of most current politicians. Shouldn't teachers be teaching what's real?
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  662. I bet the fishermen wish they had Mick Lynch looking after them instead of Farage!
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  663. ​ @maavet2351 if this is minimised civilian casualties, I really don't want to know what it would look like if Isreal stopped trying to minimise casualties...
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  664.  @Ben21756  it's not just the stats. There's plenty of photographic evidence that backs those numbers up. A lot of innocent people are being injured and killed in Gaza right now
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  665. ​ @Robbo-u7q  but wealth redistribution could fund education, and democratise job opportunities 🤔
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  666. They want to cut budgets for the NHS and education 😳
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  667.  @evolassunglasses4673  The NHS. Norway's sovereign wealth fund. State owned energy in France Stalinist centrally planned communism fails every time. Socialism, especially in a mixed model, has many successes!
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  668. You're far more sophisticated than I am. I call them crap because they are crap!
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  669. ​@jungbolosse3034 if they have genuinely and completely divested from Iz, then they've done the right thing, and that should be acknowledged
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  670. Cummings has correctly identified the problem with continuity Cameron and Osborne politics I don't trust him to provide the solution though!
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  671. ​ @tonyfraser1749  so we need an alternative to Tories of both Blue and Red colour then
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  672.  @jayarava  even if he's "just" another Tony Blair or Gordon Brown, that is far better than the Cowboys in Blue!
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  673. ​ @middleman9183 have you seen the current government?
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  674.  @kimhaslam664  I know a few electricians. The only one who could afford a house had a lot of help from their parents. It's not the 80s any more
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  675. ​ @virtualal but gentrification isn't caused by immigrants, unless you're only talking about the ones who come by private jet
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  676.  @twisteddancer7773  so those who climb the ladder enough to be heard "aren't allowed" to question things because it "doesn't affect them any more" Those who haven't are too small to be heard Convenient setup, isn't it? 🤔
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  677.  @acptelford1307  Learn from the RMT rather than drag them down! Don't let bosses push everyone down to the lowest rung
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  678. There isn't really a competitive market for power generation - competition would require redundant capacity, and who has the money to build power generators that might not get used? Better to have it publicly owned so at least there can be democratic accountability over how it is run
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  679.  @martynblackburn9632  Don't remember Gordon Brown leaving the NHS lethally short of cash, so bad that a shortage of ambulances is a daily problem...
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  680. This is a side effect of FPTP. When establishing a new party is really difficult, it's inevitable that many politically driven people will look to join an existing party and try to steer them towards their goal Countries with representative electoral systems see a lot less of this sort of thing 🙂
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  681. Is "being skint" a political view now?
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  682. That was started by the Conservative Chancellor Reginald Maudling back in 1964 That's a tradition nobody will continue now, thanks to the Conservatives
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  683. If you have a third party that isn't the Tories or Labour in with a chance in your area, back anyone but the big two Not everyone is in a position to do so, but hung parliaments are the way to get change. If two or three parties have to work together, it will normalise the idea with the public, and give the smaller parties an opening to demand changes to elections as part of the coalition deal
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  684.  @Tao_Tology  my point is, "whine and play is the victim" is her answer She's not going to do anything differently. She's going to stick with the current plan!
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  685. and all the people who retire. I want to open by saying they deserve their retirement - because in cold, economic terms retirees still occupy a house, but go from being a productive taxpayer, to a burden on the state You can't support pensioners without having people to take over those jobs as people retire!
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  686. ​ @JH-lf4ql Labour are doing well despite Starmer His personal ratings are quite bad, unlike the broadly positive view the public has of the party as a whole
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  687. Not only could we afford it in 2010, but Australia can afford it now If we don't pay NHS staff properly, more and more of them will move to Australia, where they will get paid properly
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  688. Agreed - there was a window when a very soft Brexit could have eased the tensions, and got most Remain voters to accept the result, at least for a parliament or two Instead, Leave shifted the goalposts to hard Brexit, maybe even no deal, and any hope of meeting in the middle went up in flames
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  689. ​ @petestobbs5844 if you had ten arrests at a similar sized football match, they'd consider that a pretty good day It's a really low number, given how emotive the subject is
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  690. Well, Blair and the One Nationers are pretty close There's still a clear divide between Blair and the eternal victims on the right of the Tory party
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  691.  @Anglo_Browza  The EU aren't messing with us, they are giving us everything we freely chose
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  692. I am resigned to the fact he's the best we'll have in the next election I am already looking ahead to what we can build for the election after!
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  693.  @Lmwpitt  Brexit is a temporary insanity which we have to endure until.we can Rejoin. The only other long term plan is, like John said, to adapt to being poorer and somewhat cut off from the world I like the Rejoin plan best 🙂
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  694. ​ @albertothomasx 15 minutes? Amateurs - I have all my day-to-day stuff inside a ten minute walk. 15 shows a lack of ambition!
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  695. @ster2600  that's necessary and welcome, but where's the infrastructure investment? We've gone from hard austerity, to austerity lite. It's an improvement from where we were, but it's still short of what's needed to turn things around
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  696. ​@Chelypal Yep. The problem with Neoliberalism is that you eventually run out of public assets to sell!
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  697. If we send Derek to this secret beach, we never have to listen to Derek complain again!
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  698. @MissFlight-q8f what deeds, indeed? He said he stood with the fishing community, til he gave up He cared about access to banking, but only for a long as it took to get his posh account back Is there any cause he's stuck with until a positive change was made?
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  699.  @DavidByrden1  We just heard the manifesto - stand against everything the Tories are currently doing 😁
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  700.  @chatham43  there's people who work for what they own, and people who want to own everything so they don't have to work. Which one are you?
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  701. I am confident they listen to their big donors 😉
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  702. I don't for a second believe they are perfect, but they will be better than what we have now, guaranteed
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  703. A model that mitigates risks at rhe start, in return for a share of the success from the winners makes a lot of sense to me
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  704. The only explanation I can come up with is this They thought they could get away with it
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  705. That depends entirely on where the easing goes If it goes to already rich people, so they can buy even more houses, then it will be terrible Spend it on infrastructure and it will be great for ordinary people
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  706.  @raymondbullock4557  it's nowhere near that much. Our health care budget is way below average for a developed nation
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  707.  @steveo4991  Argos would be overjoyed if Amazon raised prices! Do you really think Amazon would hand an opportunity like that to it's competitors?
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  708. Journalism and analysis is important - we need people making policy, and we need people holding the policy makers to account I think Richard Murphy is good at holding them to account, and hope he continues 🙂
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  709. The Boris Johnson Bill of rights, extending exclusively for the benefits of Boris Johnson?
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  710. If it was all about profit, and social use was discredited, we'd all be dealing drugs But in reality, social use is actually rather important!
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  711. ​@firepalmmy5933 well, anything that benefits rich Americans at least...
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  712. They are too scared of James!
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  713.  @ThomasKing19933  nope, we have enough problems without raking up the past all the time! We have a future to fight for
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  714. If the tactical vote is smart, we can give the Tories the boot without enabling Starmer as an uncontested PM. Back Greens where they stand a chance, and the LibDems too A hung parliament is the best way to get electoral reform 🙂
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  715. also, tax is a better way to balance a universal benefit. Then you only need one department processing it, keeping things simple, and greatly reducing the chance of someone falling into a gap in the middle
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  716. ​ @stephenmurray2851 because she claims the opposite of documented fact
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  717.  @matthewv4170  I won't believe they're done until they are no longer sitting as MPs
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  718. It would also help if they appeared in genuine critical interviews more often Too many politicians only do softball media appearances with stage managed interviewers
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  719.  @danielwebb8402  I disagree - life expectancy is falling, opportunities for social mobility are a sliver of what they used to be. Society has started to slide backwards
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  720. @sonofsomerset1695  why don't you like cheaper electricity?
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  721. @sonofsomerset1695  except fossil fuels aren't cheap. There's a reason Norway runs on renewables domestically, while selling the oil and gas to others who are willing to pay
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  722. Wonder what GBNews thinks about books by Karl Marx?
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  723. It's starting to cut through, and the more we share it, the more powerful it gets. Go share 🙂
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  724.  @BD4-ManchesterIsRed  in the medium term the Tories will be out of government, and then we get long term stability?
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  725.  @mogznwaz  not sure one token plane flight at ludicrous expense is the same thing as "controlling borders"
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  726. Why does it have to be the streets? What about mass boycotts?
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  727. @m bontekoe  I agree that wages need to increase - that will require some taxes to go up to fund it. There is a political choice where those rises land though
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  728. ​ @jaggafeen by calling for an investigation rather than claiming you know what happened?
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  729.  @famalam943  a suitcase of prosecco. During the strictest period of lockdown
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  730.  @danielwebb8402  we can learn and change. Have the last four decades worked for society? If we decide the answer is no, what can we do better? Civilisation doesn't just improve through better technology, it also changes through better ideas. Is neoliberal capitalism the best we can do, or was just one step in humanity's story, and it's time for the next step?
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  731.  @imbonkers3629  because a lot of those people on benefits already have a job - it's just so rubbish that they need benefits as well as work to cover the basics That's how broken work is right now 🙁
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  732. Slightly left of Thatcher, maybe, but definitely no lefty!
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  733. ​ @warrenchu5752 only if we vote for parties that put their big donors first. We need to vote for parties that have grassroots support instead
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  734.  @lovelybitofbugle219  that only covers a few electives. If you had to pay full cover, including emergency cover, you would be paying a lot more than that!
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  735. Well, thought Wes. The minister for health makes people healthy, the minister for justice brings justice, so the secretary for child poverty should...
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  736. ​@julian987r4 to be clear, I want Farage to be interviewed but Ferrari didn't do an interview, he had a cosy chat with his chum
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  737. But then there won't be any pictures of boats and hotels for their chums in the press to put on the front page!
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  738. But then the US military lose their airstrip in the Middle East...
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  739. Yep. When the only source on Farage's circumstances is Farage himself, I am going to be rather cynical about the reliability of those "facts"
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  740. Sadly the Labour front bench struggle to be left of Cameron and Osborne 🙁
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  741. Yes, but if Nick talks about those , Boris looks bad!
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  742. Not sure I can see much difference between capitalism and feudalism to be honest. One's a system where the powerful maintain their power generationally by inheriting parent to child, and feudalism is the same but with more private armies
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  743. The bosses shun the daylight, makes them hard to track down for quick interviews like this one 😉
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  744. The root cause of the concerns is the Mail and the Express creating fear While we're not having a pragmatic conversation about the whole picture, people will keep being more worried than they need to be, or worried about the wrong priorities
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  745.  @stujujitwingfut5192  they say every accusation is a confession. Is this true?
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  746. It's that old chestnut of "when you're used to privilege, equality feels like oppression"
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  747. It's not even an aspiration. It's pure smoke and mirrors. No intention to do anything except maybe shift some blame away from the Tories
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  748. 57% of your energy bill goes to offshore accounts in tax havens
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  749. I remember the disbelief of Jan 6 - that sense of unreality, that even following it live, you can't believe it's real and happening This is like that day, but hilarious rather than horrifying 😁
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  750. If James didn't interrupt, Moses would have gish galloped for hours while saying nothing Moses would have been a legend at the old school filibuster, where dragging out the vote required actually standing and talking the whole time!
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  751. "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you" I think Starmer has been staring into the depths of the Tory party a bit too much. What do we "win" if our "winner" has become one of them?
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  752. or imagine a CPTPP member buys a water company. They'd be able to claim compensation if we introduce fines for pumping poo into our rivers They effectively become unfineable...
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  753. Well, they are an endangered minority, but that's because they are being rewarded fairly for their actions 😉
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  754. ​ @JupiterThunder self awareness fail, there!
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  755. ​​ @PoldarkGodzilla  calmly, and professionally. By sticking to the relevant facts that illustrate what needs to change, rather than egos and "authority"
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  756. Country before party would be a general election!
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  757.  @Efferpheasants  But if they let NHS managers buy PPE from their usual suppliers, how could the Tories set up dodgy fast lane contracts to shovel money to their chums?
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  758. If you want more austerity and more cuts to public services
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  759. Yep! Vote Green, tax billionaires and invest in UK infrastructure 🙂
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  760. Most private healthcare doesn't cover emergency care. Double check your policy before you assume it's safe to give up on the NHS!
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  761.  @peaceunion5316  "Why is this front page news?" Is the question James asked. They article being discussed was taking the angle that their existence was a threat to society as we (they?) know it To the best of my knowledge, at no point did it concern itself with the question of how best to help people dealing with traumatic events in their lives. That might have been an interesting discussion, but that's not what articles like that are aiming for, is it?
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  762.  @peaceunion5316  Not much chance of that while one side is determined to use this as a tap dancing squirrel!
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  763. Not promising an immediate Rejoin is realistic. Maintaining the hardline Brexiteer rhetoric is a choice, and not a reassuring one
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  764.  @boomer4629  maybe he does mean "UK rain", and he's trying to explain the hosepipe bans from the summer?
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  765. @JB_inks  do you have any good links? The vibe from the coalface is that it's an interesting academic curiosity, but practical applications are wildly overhyped. I am very interested to see informed counterpoints 🙂
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  766. It's an odd punishment, when all that is happening was all our choice. None of this was forced on us!
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  767.  @natenae8635  every year they subcontract more and more electives to private providers
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  768. and many of our "journalists" would call it genius, just like last time...
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  769. I feel sorry for anyone daft and/or obliged to recieve them though!
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  770. ​ @kanedNunable true, but we can't blindly trust Labour. They will still need a fair bit of scrutiny to stop them falling into bad habits like PFIs!
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  771. ​ @TheSuperPsychoKiller people are people. Are any of these people impacting your life? If not, why do you care?
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  772.  @abazely2743  what about the rest of the board, and all the shareholders? The money is there, and his line about leading from the front is nonsense. He's not in the same boat as everyone else. He's not even on the same planet as everyone else!
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  773. ​ @ianclose123  I'd rather support a dignified life for everyone than support stuffing another billion in an offshore tax haven
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  774. If there's no money for wages, where's the money for that kind of infrastructure investment going to come from?
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  775. ​ @chrisj9700 why should we care about incentivising wealth creation if it all disappears into tax havens?
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  776. Let's face it - even if there is a genuine societal problem here, Farage is not the right person to champion it Just ask any fishing town what happens when Nigel campaigns for your cause
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  777. ​@Mats tell everyone about the UK! If there's a silver lining to the mess here, it's that maybe we can save others from making the same mistakes
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  778.  @SlowhandGreg  anyone buying or selling a house will have professional advice from the various agencies involved, even if they don't have a tax advisor for their general affairs
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  779.  @cctv5348  I do have to throw in one point regarding democracy. Democracy does mean that a majority (say 52%) has a mandate to enact their policy. It doesn't mean that the other 48% will stop being concerned by the things that concerned them before the election Successful democratic governments don't just play to their supporters - where practical they also reassure their opponents that their worst fears aren't being ignored. Just talking to one side tends to escalate in an unpleasant manner
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  780. ​ @adamibrahim7338 and? I am not a content creator You may as well point out that a farmer has more cows than me 🙄
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  781.  @Norfolkandchance886  if they leave, we will replace them with someone else who will do the job and pay the tax. I am sure there's no shortage of people who will still find the wage more than sufficient after tax is applied
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  782. ​@ghengis430 Rory Stewart's biggest failing is he trusts people from posh elite private schools far too much If someome with an economics degree from Oxford says "We need to cut benefits or the economy fails", Rory justs naively nods along with it 🙁
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  783. That only makes sense if we assume the EU civil service is a bit thick, and can't see what's happening for themselves
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  784. I take one small consolation from the Lammy situation We've shown that if we make enough noise online, Labour leadship take notice. We should get a gang together to make even bigger noises 😁
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  785.  @Andygb78  The Nazis were socialists in the same way that Stalin believed in community!
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  786. There's a reason he's never been in the cabinet
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  787.  @scallamander4899  it means 50% + of people get most of what they want, rather than 30% getting everything they want at everyone else's expense. It's a healthier balance in politics
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  788. ​ @debeeriz you jest, but there is one a few blocks from Buckingham Palace. There are still a lot of horses there, after all!
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  789. "Don't let me shoot myself in the foot" isn't the strong position he claims it is
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  790.  @ThesocialmuteHD  well, Tory Transport Minister no 4 isn't going to look after working people. I trust Mick 🙂
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  791. ​@hilmirhrafnhjaltason5032 being the second largest party isn't so special when there's at least four other parties, and none of them want to work with you
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  792.  @tonygange7636  and there it is. When I think Zimbabwe, I think infamous economic basket case. When you think Zimbabwe you think skin colour
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  793.  @johnduddy2359  Only 40% of the country voted Tory. Something isn't working properly when less than half the vote gives you a massive majority...
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  794. ​@anonomous8719 we've had 13 years of "rainy days" - the savings are gone now
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  795. @anonomous8719  if I worked for them, I would expect a decent wage. Shouldn't everyone who works get a livable wage?
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  796. Being kicked out of the leadership seems to be the best thing to happen to her - she's been the closest thing the Tories have to decency since she was deposed!
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  797. ​ @jonmould2946 if you want to reduce immigration, you have just one simple question to answer Which jobs do you want to leave unfilled as people retire?
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  798. Hugely popular MPs? Back this up in a general election then 🙂
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  799. ​ @corneliuscornia3189 we have smart and capable people, but none of them are in the Tory party!
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  800. Braverman is living evidence that race doesn't limit who you can be Sadly she demonstrates this by showing how skin colour doesn't limit your potential to be utterly vile
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  801. I assume the point is to get the attention of people who can vote for him (or not 😉)
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  802. That and most people are too skint for restaurants and shopping trips. Almost like wages are too low... 🤔
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  803. Apparently "more involved in politics" means only voting for the UK parliament, rather than voting for both the UK and EU one 🤔
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  804. @Graham T  everyone is forming political trade Unions - ASEAN and RCEP in Asia, Mercosur in South America etc We're the only country that has got more isolated and cut off
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  805. The answer is yes - the more interesting question is, does she realise that's what she's doing?
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  806.  @perfchaos  Truss was the Foreign Secretary who flew out there to oversee the negotiations. She had her name all over the announcements of the deals
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  807. ​@martynanstis1620 so "we made up some rules, and we didn't break those rules we made"?
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  808. @Phar874 moochieter  want a seat in the House of Lords? Donate £3million to the Tory party and it's yours!
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  809. @Charles White why can you only be confident in isolation? Can you not be confident among others? I'd prefer to be engaged with the world and building partnerships than hiding away from everyone
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  810. Those areas would also take the negatives of a shortage of immigration That's just Tory policy - dump the costs and effort onto others while claiming the profits
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  811.  @CyclingSteve  and while we're at it, can we have a Met commissioner who isn't corrupt and covering up for dodgy officers? That would be nice, too!
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  812. Really frustrating when you consider polls show people are quite strongly left-leaning economically, with policies like nationalised utilities and the NHS typically having 70%+ support The only way the Tories get into government is our imbalanced electoral system and their noisy culture war distractions 🙁
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  813. If you're short staffed, you need to offer better wages Thought the Tories knew how the free market works?
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  814. From my understanding, even there it's more of a money laundering mechanism to hide the real currency involved, rather than a market primarily using crypto as it's foundation
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  815. We challenge the assumption that apartheid is jewish. Isn't assuming that all Jews support apartheid kinda antisemitic itself?
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  816. Nonsense
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  817. Your numbers are broadly correct, but everything else is rubbish
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  818. Roosevelt's new deal
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  819.  @johnrussell3961  yes, that money has gone, there's no money around to replace it They can only pay with their parliamentary seats now
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  820.  @goodlookinouthomie1757  sadly, nobody has cracked the problem of finding a suitable benign dictator
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  821. ​ @DocNick68 I don't like private imvolvement in healthcare. They'll always take the easy cases and milk them for profit, while leaving complications to the public service If a business model only works by cherry picking the easy wins and leaving the public to carry the expensive, risky cases, we shouldn't allow privatisation
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  822. Arrogant and hypocritical? Sounds perfectly qualified to lead the Tories
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  823. Don't matter how loud you scream and shout and demand a unicorn They don't exist. Don't blame 'political leanings' when numpties are demanding the impossible
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  824.  @andrewwalsh2755  free movement wasn't that big a deal in overall migration. Immigration has actually gone up since we left FoM
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  825. Holding back? They rolled out the red carpet to welcome them!
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  826.  @stephenford8775  Mogg has been on a couple of times. He fell down so badly he doesn't dare try any more
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  827. We've had 4 decades of waiting for that investment to kick in. Can we just admit at this point that super rich individuals don't invest in growth, and trickle-down economics is a total failure?
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  828. Wonder which one of Wes' donor mates suggested that idea?
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  829. When the "told you so" did have solutions.... Told you so!
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  830. Making him PM would be a waste of a great journalist!
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  831. And for Transport Minister number 4 to stop hiding and admit he has to sign off on any deal, and get round the table!
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  832. This isn't how they bring up their children They get nannies and boarding schools to teach arrogant entitlement, because they are too arrogant and entitled to do it themselves
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  833.  @David-bi6lf  they also push Labour to change. Currently, Labour think the only way to gain votes is to swing Tory voters, so they lean towards Tory policies If Labour see a growing block of Green voters, they can't do that any more. Electoral reform is Labour's best hope if we make it clear that we won't vote for them if they keep shuffling towards the Tories
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  834. Because that would be sensible, and because it doesn't let them use pictures of small boats as a distraction from their economic incompetence and general corruption
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  835.  @williamshakespeare2550  That one works too!
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  836. Our hard work makes water companies and landlords rich 🙁
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  837. Where are you finding the left wing politics? There isn't much in the mainstream that I can see
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  838.  @LS-xs7sg  oddly enough, I agree, yet that's why I support the EU. Hedge funds and other global efforts aren't going to go away, so they need a democratic counterbalance. The EU is the most successful model yet achieved for democracy on a scale big enough to push back against multinational agents
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  839. I am happy to call that bluff. Allowing entitled endulgence for a few hasn't worked well over the last 40 years. Let's try doing the opposite 🙂
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  840. ​ @Myrtle43 Facts just are. They exist regardless of factions
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  841.  @markb3915  It can come from wherever the massive dividends and bonuses are coming from 😉
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  842. You say kind act, I say cynical political stunt...
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  843. ​ @iLAGnDC yes, otherwise the country neighbouring the war gets overwhelmed Everyone agreeing to be involved is how you stop one country being overwhelmed
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  844.  @davidedwards1336  she needs to go! Nobody believes she's up to the challenge, from any part of the spectrum
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  845. ​ @cubeh8331 spreading the word is important. If people don't know what they need to fight, they'll attack the wrong thing
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  846. ​ @tomfinney3416 yet Tories won't talk about landlords when they say we need to control inflation Can anyone guess why? 🤔
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  847. ​ @jonsmith5058  no, but nations that don't have a reputation for honesty do suffer. Deals that could have been done on trust become either impossible, or done at very high cost
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  848.  @Anglo_Browza  if they didn't have a job, we could always send them back. That was always possible
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  849.  @wakaisgood  Strikes, petitions, protests and emails require engagement from both sides. If the Tories keep turning a deaf ear, people aren't going to keep trying something that's just being ignored Respect has to be given both ways if it is to be maintained
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  850.  @TheMarlinspike  Doesn't seem to have had any lasting influence on his opinions 🤔
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  851. The tired old "why don't people use the thing that doesn't exist" argument...
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  852. ​@loolfactorie it would have made it a shared problem across everyone signed up to the Dublin agreement. Instead, the UK is all alone
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  853. ​ @sirhumphreyappleby8399  But finding Brexit benefits is Mogg's job. It's his only Ministerial responsibility (which he outsourced to Sun readers 😳)
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  854.  @RecoverywithMissWilliams  anyone tries to say you are against Sunak because of his skin, refer them to the Tunbridge Wells video. That's grim watching, and would be just as grim if anyone else said it!
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  855.  @wilnerolivier7971  I am ready for the first female Chancellor 😉
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  856.  @Finance-Food-and-Freetime  while that was necessary and laudable, it was for paying the bills. Average people paid the same bills they always paid, they didn't get to use it to invest or anything like that Meanwhile, at the top they were buying more property and shares than ever. Now the government say we need to fill the financial hole, guess who is going to pay most of it? It was necessary and laudable, but now it's being used as yet another wealth transfer upwards. The people who scraped through are being asked to pay back the most, while the people who profited pay next to nothing back 🙁
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  857. If the will of the people can get the government to call for a ceasefire, then the will of the people can next call for boycotts and sanctions As South Africa shows, that can make a difference if the will is there
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  858. ​@MissFlight-q8f by watching his actions, and believing his deeds more than his words
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  859. It's the hot hand fallacy in action - they see amazing leaps forward, and assume such leaps are going to continue, while a more active analysis shows that progress has pretty much plateaued, and minor incremental improvements in efficiency are the more likely occurance for the foreseeable future
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  860.  @royboy565  Think that would fall under being wise!
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  861. If we get to a point where Kier stands with Mick, and Mick is happy to stand with Kier, we have a winner!
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  862. ​ @datingdave1310 the 2019 one was. The next one isn't written yet, but the policies they are talking about are more than a bit Osborne in character 🙁
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  863. ​ @danielwebb8402 I have to question how those figures are gathered - if everything is rosy, where's it going? It's not showing in wages, or public services!
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  864.  @grievuspwn4g3  I know the reason, and the reason is FPTP When the electoral system requires a big broad party before you can win a seat, everyone left of the Tories gets smashed together in one party. If the centrists and socialists split into separate parties, it would just mean Tory rule forever 🙁 That's not a good thing, even for Tory voters, as they have the same problem. Everyone to the right of Blair have been smushed together, and the faction that dominates the party often doesn't represent what Tory voters actually wanted Time for a change of electoral system?
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  865. I thought democracy put more weight on a vote this year, than on a vote from almost a decade in the past... If he keeps listening to the past more than the present, I don't rate his chances much next election
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  866. Or vote for a smaller party, or an independent Even if they don't win, the size of that vote does influence policy in the big parties
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  867. But the majority of NI support the protocol!
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  868.  @DOCTORDROTT  sure, lie about Mick's wages, and ignore the rail bosses on over half a million...
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  869. ​ @Lilgoth89 wonder if "being Tory" ia something that can be cured?
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  870.  @pineapplephill7934  I don't think everything should be decided by a big central government, but neither does the EU On the whole, they do a good job on getting the balance right. The issues tackled at EU level are the ones where size is more important than flexibility
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  871.  @xMrjamjam  we have a kind of assessment every 4-5 years So far, we haven't been very effective at filtering out problem cases
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  872. I try and avoid them, but they've crowded so many people out if the market they are often the only option I'll buy from Amazon if I can't find what I am after anywhere else I'll also back any solidarity fund I see 😉
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  873.  @lovelybitofbugle219  great if you need a cataract op, doesn't cover heart attacks though...
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  874. The tiers are "throwing bricks" and "not throwing bricks" - what's wrong with that?
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  875. Don't give them ideas, they'd see that as a serious suggestion 😳
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  876. This is a question of trust though. Imagine Russia actually does invade Ukraine. Our troops would be going in on this man's orders. Would you be happy with life or death orders from a man who throws his colleagues under a bus rather than admit he had a party?
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  877. We have carbon capture and storage technology - they're called trees However, there's not much opportunity to extract big shareholder dividends when planting trees...
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  878. You know when something is genuinely iconic, when nobody needs to say it out loud!
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  879. If he let her speak, everyone would see how vicious and horrible he really is
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  880.  @LovzaNo  it is divide and rule. It's the ten cookies on a plate situation - the Tory has just grabbed nine of them, but is pointing at the immigrant and saying "they are about to steal your cookie!"
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  881. But "use the private sector to bring down waiting lists" is enough nonsense to undermine the whole plan There is no spare capacity sat idle in the private sector, so either this is unresearched, or Wes is funding an expansion of the private sector I don't want an unresearched plan, and if we have money to expand capacity, we should so so within the NHS!
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  882. @jeff simon  open to suggestions for a better way to respond to paranoid nonsense!
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  883. @jeff simon  I've not seen such plans,and even if they were out there, we have a government that can't actually do anything. Seen any of those 40 hospitals yet?
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  884. ​ @valtonen77  but does Dawkins calling trans people a "fad" make it easier or harder for trans people?
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  885.  @garyrowe58  I'm not watching the whole thing again just to find the exact word. Was it "trend"? "Phase"? It was something you'd find on that entry from the Thesaurus, I don't feel I am misrepresenting his position, even if I didn't get the exact quote
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  886.  @Thelostgoldhunters  it's going to be tough for a bit, but the Tories are doomed by their own arrogance and failure, and once they are out we can start to fix everything
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  887. Could we call it world beating?
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  888. @Tim Murphy  They wouldn't all join the same party though - if the current Conservative Party collapses, people like David Gauke are going to go in a different direction to people like Suella Braverman I see this as a very good thing!
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  889. Our unemployment rate is very low. So yeah, we need more workers if people keep retiring (which they deserve to be able to do!)
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  890.  @sciencefliestothemoon2305  Directly? Never But he lobbies hard for minimal regulation. If he thinks something needs big government, he must be terrified of it!
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  891. So if the buying power of gold has increased, and most of the gold is overseas, the gold standard moves economic power overseas Not sure that helps the UK much!
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  892. The only reason to vote Labour is if you've in a tight seat where the alternative is even worse Otherwise, I see no reason to vote red!
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  893. @skizz  maybe the fact that our police is acting like a criminal gang is a big concern? 🤔
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  894. ​@gabrieldsouza6541 I am starting to question why people still go to Oxford though. We have had Oxford graduates running the country, and look what a mess they made of it! Totally agree that we are at lur best when we're sharing and working with others though 🙂
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  895. Is 'petty politics' how Tories say 'yeah, Labour are better'
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  896. Labour and LibDems are fighting to be the party that older voters switch to when they're seeking stability The Tories are barely in that contest at all now
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  897.  @alwayspooh1588  I agree Rishi would be bad. I also agree Liz is even worse
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  898. Not the first time that a Tory "this should be banned" came with a silent "for the little people"!
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  899. We can't let this be swept under the carpet! We are still have to pay the bills, they've just postponed some of the cost for a bit
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  900. ​@dazecm this - asset stripping is prioritising very short term profit by breaking a company and having a fire sale with the valuable bits over a steady, long-term viability
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  901.  @agt155  we are still paying full price for power, only difference is now we pay some of it a bit later...
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  902. ​ @Stewed_Walrus  some people are so dedicated to their dining room, they cook and sleep there too!
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  903. Well, the membership us currently zero, since everyone with accusations has been suspended
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  904. I always ask if the fishing community are happy with what Nigel did for them His track record speaks for itself, but Nigel doesn't like to look back at his record for some reason!
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  905.  @carlosdrfx  It does show which managers are there to coordinate and facilitate, and which just like the title and the authority I'm not going to cry if we lose all the latter type 😁
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  906.  @HopeVReason  the Democrats were disappointing The MAGA cult is terrifying...
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  907. I want to be back in the European superpower. Stronger together!
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  908. and newspapers like the Sun, Express, Mail and the Telegraph...
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  909. ​@jesush.tap-dancingchrist7328 remember when Channel 4 replaced Boris Johnson with an icecube because he didn't show up? We need more journalists willing to leave an empty chair for Tories who don't want to answer questions, and talk to those who do I know there's plenty of other politicians and activists with plenty to say about Tory policy if the Tories want to hide in the fridge!
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  910.  @davidedwards1336  wasn't Labour who cut the Police and community support budgets. That was the Tories The Tories love to give you smeg all to work with, then act all smug when you can't do much with it 🤬
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  911.  @furrybear9416  yep. In my twenties £500 would have destroyed me. Now, it would sting, but I could cope. For some people, that's not even pocket change ☹
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  912. Our spend per head is slightly below average for a developed nation. If we want the healthcare other countries currently have, we need to fund the NHS like those countries do!
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  913. If the courts grabbed a record of their facebook page (before they deleted their page) then it won't take the court very long to decide
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  914. But what if we need more immigrants to bring taxes down without breaking public services? Why don't we talk about taxing billionaires?
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  915. Melei is only described as "doing a good job" when Melei marks his own homework
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  916.  @davidedwards1476  Democracy means I can vote for whoever I like and campaign for whatever I want Parliament has to follow the mandate it's given. I am not in parliament! For what it's worth, I would love a world where we can find common ground, but so far I've seen no such efforts made by the 'winners'. You don't have to accept our solutions, but if you want to build bridges you have to acknowledge our concerns!
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  917.  @andyforshaw8489  they are by their own admission reformed fascists. Time will tell if the "reformed" deserves the sarcasm quotes or not!
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  918.  @miakeogh6844  Her government was bad, but this one is worse
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  919.  @clive373  we need to build better media!
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  920. Which would be fine if it was a purely solo effort, but he's taking the party down with him, and with it the alternative to Tory government 🙁
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  921. ​@NeonVisual have you asked who does own the houses? It's not an immigrant cleaner or taxi driver. It's Tice or one of his school chums
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  922.  @jamescooke6032  despite the lack of MPs, they still got their policies implemented This is the power of a growing Green vote - even before it gets big enough to win seats, it will shift Labour policy. The more organised and numerous the Green vote gets, the bigger the effect
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  923.  @qetoun  Not sure if serious?
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  924. Today's "did they really say that?" moment - apparently we need to give tax cuts because otherwise people won't work hard This is a tax cut for people on 150k and higher. The IEA just straight up said 150k earners are lazy, but will be less lazy if we give them lower taxes 🙄
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  925. ​@Pawlaczun maybe the reason you can't find a unicorn is because unicorns don't exist
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  926. @D C Not everyone - people on 80k can cope with a pay freeze for a bit, people on 500k could cope on a pay cut I'm no commie demanding everyone gets the same, but is a CEO really over 150 times more important than a nurse?
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  927. Apparently the railway is struggling so much that it can't afford higher wages Yet they had no problem finding money to pay dividends to shareholders 🤔
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  928. ​@nathanaelsmith3553 it's almost like we should let doctors make medical decisions rather than thinktank lobbyists...
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  929.  @qwertywillbecool  I am not sure people who had to change their retirement plans post-Brexit would be happy to hear spending their retirement in the EU described as 'only'!
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  930. It's all true, but still won't make any difference if you're saving for a deposit!
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  931.  @seroxen1  we do need to look back to learn from history. We should take notes on what not to do!
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  932. ​@Don Ziolkowski is there conversion therapy to cure the mental disorder of bigotry?
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  933. @andybrice2711  if it became a free for all, that would indeed be a bad thing However I see no chaos if it's limited to critical infrastructure mismanaged to the point of failure. Why should the taxpayer pay twice for the incompetence of Thames Water's management?
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  934. @andybrice2711  but it's not government debt, that's my whole point You don't get to be a private company when times are good, then nationalise when you screw up. They own that debt, not us I am happy to give them market value for the assets though, as long as that value reflects the condition they're in
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  935. I get people wanting to vote Labour to get rid of the Tories, but if you can vote for Faiza in Chingford or Leanne in Ilford North, you have another option 🙂
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  936. It's not too late,this is phase one complete. It's not final until the current phase two is done Maybe we should have a referedum soon?
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  937. ​@Taffy Terrier if that were true, we wouldn't have a staff shortage We are recruiting from the whole world, but nobody wants the wages and conditions we offer!
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  938.  @taffyterrier  again, if that were true, we wouldn't have a staff shortage
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  939.  @stone_me1136  Most of them? Even Theresa May could get through a speech without sounding like she'd been huffing drain cleaner all week!
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  940.  @danieloliver4558  If it's basic, you will be easily able to explain the connection between people staying in their house, and food being more expensive 🤔
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  941. We absolutely could and should house everyone, anyone who wants to be part of UK society and contribute, whether born here or not, if we viewed houses as homes instead of investment assets!
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  942. We could look after everyone, if we didn't accept rich tax dodgers dodging tax!
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  943. ​ @lestrem11 people keep getting ill. Who knew?
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  944. Anyone want to bet what the tax policy is going to be? A: A progressive tax that at least brings money into the government to invest elsewhere as a tradeoff for the ludicrous earnings divide or B: Peanuts so all the money disappears offshore Place your bets!
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  945. but Suella Braverman is real...
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  946. Was there ever a common culture, or is that just a myth? As a northerner, I don't feel much common ground with someone who went to Eton, and suspect I never will. I live in London now, and Sadiq Khan is a lot more relatable to me than Susan Hall ever will be!
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  947. I am listening to Rachel Reeve right now. I would not describe her response as 'accepting'!
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  948. Not sure "do we serve the champagne or the gin martinis" is a big call...
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  949. ​ @denzel270 purpose, but not a decent wage, or any hope of buying a house 🤔
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  950. I am going to start carrying a plain sheet of A4 with me now. Instant protest kit 😁
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  951. The lack of investment is odd, when you think the big promise made with privatisation was that it would enable more investment... 🤔
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  952.  @resistancefighter9009  ding! Feeling it even more now 😁
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  953. That is a gem, thanks for the heads up!
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  954. ​ @imbonkers3629  but they were protesting on the pavement, and got arrested. It was a model peaceful protest!
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  955.  @monkeymox2544  yep. Like they say - what's the easiest way to become a billionaire? Start as a millionaire...
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  956. I normally think this sort of language is cheap and petty but Bannerman is an unconditional supporter of free speech, so gammonface should be proud that we are exercising our freedom to call him a gammon 😁
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  957. "Still (slightly) better than being a Victorian factory worker!" Don't remember seeing that on the side of a Tory election bus 🤔
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  958. ​@susan curtis waiting 47 years? Someone just getting their first job now, will be almost retired by then! If something can't show some benefits, people will demand better. You can't expect people to spend their whole working life waiting...
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  959. @susan curtis  you can thank Thatcher for the decline. The EU didn't make us sell our utilities to the highest bidder, that was all on her!
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  960. ​ @martinsingfield but without unions, you have an unopposed monopsony, which is also bad
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  961. Yeah, because appeasement worked so well when we tried it in the 1930s...
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  962. ​ @SDT90 you're not going to have a cohesive society if the economy is broken, and people stuggle to cover the basics of life
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  963. Rejoining would end all such talk 🙂
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  964. If Charles had suffered a tragic death before William was born we would have King Andrew now Let that sink in a bit!
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  965. We're like America, there's a conservative right wing party and a radical right wing party And naturally for a country where public achools are the expensive, exclusive ones, the large C Conservative party isn't the small-c conservative one...
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  966.  @johndonson1603  really? So which one is going to renationalise the water companies?
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  967. ​ @StuartQuinn vote green and encourage others to do so Voting green won't get a Green candidate - until the point when it tips over, and we will Even if you don't win, it tells Labour where they need to change policy if they want to pick up swing voters. That is powerful, even if you don't get a Green MP
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  968. If Jacob wants people to pay for their own childcare, wages are going to need to go up A LOT
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  969. @jjeffery worboys  we need a future generation. What happens when the whole country is just old people because nobody could afford to have children?
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  970. I am waiting for some "genius" to suggest people live in the office, so they can work from "home" in a way that Mogg will approve of 😳
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  971. There is a need for a traditionalist, small c conservative party in politics, even if that's not my party I sincerely believe it will be easier to build that party from scratch than redeem the Tories Alternatively, there's the possibility that Labour have become that small-c conservative party. Where would that leave the Tories?
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  972.  @richardananedickinson4812  there's plenty of French folk I know who I trust more than the clowns we currently have in Westminster!
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  973.  @kanedNunable  you say that, but Finland has just swung quite hard towards austerity politics and reducing the state. Those are policies that favour the very rich, not ordinary people
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  974.  @loc4725  sure, deficit spending to invest, and taxes on the wealthy has never worked, as long as you ignore things like the American New Deal, that did exactly that, and it worked...
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  975. ​ @lestrem11  keep a separate personal account and work account. Then it is exactly that simple when work business needs reviewing
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  976. Do NOT give them ideas! Their sarcasm detectors are infamously broken
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  977. Could it be related to the millions of dollars Netanyahu waved through Isreal, on it's way from Quatar to Hamas? As reported by CBC if you want to follow up on more details
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  978. I don't remember much pay restraint in the banks, after the people of the nation bailed the banks out Plenty of cuts and austerity for us, though!
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  979. There's only one time it matters if someone has a penis or not, so if you're not planning to date them, why do you even care?
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  980. ​ @SierraNovemberKilo  the numbers arriving are enough to fill just over a quarter of Wembley stadium The RMT alone can almost fill Wembley. All the medical unions fill it several times over If the plan is to sack the Unions and replace them with refugees, you're going to need a lot more boats!
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  981.  @Hardcore_Remixer  you know what really kills risk taking and endeavour? Having to work 50 or 60 hour weeks just to cover the bills Strong social safety nets are the best way to encourage innovation. Look at the eras of peak innovation - they were all eras of prosperity where the vast majority of people felt secure Meanwhile, insecurity will result in stagnation or even decline. The pattern from history is clear
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  982. "If you don't like my changes, then leave" said Starmer So Jamie Driscoll did! Well done getting exactly what you wished for, Starmer!
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  983. ​ @Happychappy444 but if Thames Water needs a new CEO, apparently the only way to find one is throw lots of money at them Why does the same not apply in teaching and medicine?
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  984. ​@Patrick Star well, a lot of Brexiteers did want to rekindle the blitz spirit...
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  985. Clearly she was heavily stage managed at the hustings. In a less predictable, less controlled environment her true level of ability is revealed
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  986. If you mean a General Election, then yes!
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  987. I will give up if Brexit is ever a success
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  988. I think Ray and Gove might share a habit...
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  989. People who waste the time of emergency services should be arrested
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  990. ​ @Mrunknown223-q9x doesn't that make it worse? They already had more money than they could spend in a lifetime, yet still feel the need to divert even more wealth to themselves
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  991. ​ @Andrew-rc3vh  capitalism is buying everything until you have the monopoly. Welcome to capitalism!
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  992.  @Yelluz  so, you assume I am upset because I "picked the wrong side", rather than being upset because prices are rising, supply chains are patchy and my options in the shops are getting more limited by the day?
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  993. Are you saying we should be more like most European railways, and be nationalised and state subsidised, instead of being run for private profit? You might be on to a good idea there!
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  994.  @spinaway  why? Show me a Labour policy from the last few decades that would be out of place in any of the successful European economies Keeping the Tories is the foolish idea - the economy has been weak and sluggish since Cameron and Osborne
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  995. That's not the Starmer and Reeves I can see. They're doing the same free-market dogma as the Tories, but mildly reining in the worst of the rampant extraction and exploitation
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  996. ​ @chrisj9700 we have an aging population and a falling birth rate. I don't have access to all the data, but 600k sounds fair
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  997. Worth pointing out, even if we were growing so fast we had double the growth of the second fastest, none of that would matter if it all goes to just 1% of the population
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  998. Great British Energy sounds like a fantastic plan! Let's start there 🙂
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  999. They love those flags so much, but you can't eat a flag!
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  1000. ​ @nawaz345 yep, smaller class sizes alone make a huge difference, even without any other advantage from more money being available for resources
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  1001. Right wing Truss tanking the economy?
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  1002. ​ @alihenderson5910 I miss the time when words had meanings
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  1003. @Charles White yeah, but then we invented boats
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  1004.  @user-ug8wx5er1w  I hope you're right, and your hospital is fully staffed, the council has everybody it needs to keep the bins collected and maintainance done You know Knightsbridge and Chelsea won't suffer a staff shortage...
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  1005. But it's not, they are just slicing it into finer pieces, so they can give ordinary people an ever thinner slice
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  1006. @Bevrinton  "the nation comes first" - what does "coming first" look like? Shouldn't a winning nation be able to pay it's key workers properly?
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  1007. Should every MP who put in a late earnings declaration resign ? It would wipe the Tory benches, let's do it!
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  1008. Wonder if he had a clause that it was only to be broadcast after he'd started his new job in another country? 🤔
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  1009.  @paulro4  that sucks 🙁 Still, you're adding to the national profile and helping them with short money in Parliament 🙂
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  1010. Probably not, but getting loads of cars off the road, so you won't be stuck in traffic so often has to help a little bit?
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  1011. ​ @iainmunro438 true, Sunak we responsible for the 2020 cuts instead, when he was told 400 needed repairs, and he took the already inadequate budget for 100 schools, and halved it to 50
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  1012. That's a Tory problem. We need a government that cares about the country, not just their school chums!
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  1013. Canute made a proclamation that he could control the tides to make a point to his sycophantic courtiers about the limits of worldly authority Rishi makes dumb proclamations because he's an idiot way out of his depth...
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  1014. But it is about taking sides - I am on the side of civilisation, and both Hamas and Netanyahu's regime are on the other
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  1015. 1) elect a government with a mandate to abolish the whole thing 2) abolish the whole thing 🙂
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  1016. If the UK is supplying weapons (it is) then protest in the UK can make a difference!
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  1017. To be fair, politics is stagnant and unimaginative currently
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  1018. Phil's research is excellent, but you do have to be aware of his massive tribal blindspot for anyone with a Labour rosette 🙁
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  1019. ​ @Steve_Coates  EDL marches?
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  1020. ​ @inguzwulf the really short answer is our journalists are the worst How can ordinary people hold power to account if the journalists (who should be our eyes and ears) can't tell us what is going on?
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  1021. We have a retention and recruitment problem in medicine and teaching The Times is generally in favour of free market policies - and what is the market solution to a retention and recruitment issue? 🤔
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  1022. I'd love to see a socialist meritocracy, where there's a baseline nobody drops below, and the most talented and diligent get positions of power and responsibility We are a long way from this ideal 🙁
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  1023. OpenDemocracy have many stories that are both interesting and depressing, covering Labours new donors
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  1024. ​ @thetruth9210 no, and look where that ended up. Speak up against hate and authoritarianism as soon as you see it, don't leave it too late
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  1025.  @thetruth9210  I'd live to have a clear statement, either way! All I get is "patriotism" and "englishness" with no meat about how that can be implemented to make ordinary people's lives better
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  1026.  @thetruth9210  that all sounds lovely, but if that's the case, what's the objection to calling for an end to violence against ordinary Palestinians?
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  1027. We need that alliance. There are differences between the Greens, the Workers and other left independents, and we can't pretend those differences don't exist What we can and should do though, is agree we need to change the system, and we can debate our differences once we have an electoral system and parliament that isn't stacked against us!
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  1028. The same Tories who are against immigration are the same people who say people out of work in Sunderland should go take up job vacancies in Southend How does that work if you have aging parents you help look after?
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  1029.  @johnrussell3961  I'd rather he spends to fix those problems that exist!
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  1030. Workhouses would mean you get paid less - you're competing for work with people paid nothing but the food they eat
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  1031. Amazon Web Services says it's a tech company!
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  1032. Phil of A Different Bias did a good analysis in his video "Hints at a May election - but is it real" The super-short summary is the Tories have set up a few policies that sound really good, but won't hold up once applied. If they don't go for May, these cunning ruses all fall apart. Details of these in Phil's video if you want the full analysis!
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  1033. @One Jobless Man the Tories are happy to cut police and community budgets and see people die than let a Labour Mayor have the funding they need to do a good job Want to see how Khan does with supportive colleagues in Westminster?
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  1034. It bounced a bit before it settled at the current low, but it's far below recovered!
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  1035. Is it too much to ask, that the people arguing it's ok for people to go hungry, could lead by example?
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  1036. Don't matter how many people vote for free unicorns, you ain't getting one
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  1037. and his impotent rage was beautiful to watch
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  1038. We are European, that's basically it. We're talented, but so are everyone else. We can add more people and global influence to the community - just like any other member Once we're comfortable with being a member, rather than a special exception, there's no reason for barriers, and every reason to be part of the community
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  1039. If the Government says "this government will never give you a pay rise" the only sensible response is to want a different government It's not ideology, it's the common sense response to the government's negotiating position
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  1040.  @أفلاكالأفكار  do you have more control? You have less to offer, so less weight. Being big, powerful and having a lot to offer gives you more to negotiate with. Being small and flexible means they bend you how they want you to bend And on a wider point - once we rejoin, the EU parliament isn't their parliament. It's our parliament. How can it be foreign once we are an active part of it?
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  1041. She's used to dealing with waffling idiots, and can't cope when she tries to interrogate someone who actually knows their job!
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  1042. ​@loc4725 there's something in common between Stalin style dictatorship and corporate multinationals - vast power in the hands of a small number of people Overcentralisation is the issue, whether done by authoritarian coup or corporate buyout
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  1043. I think he might concede Mussolini was centrist in Moggs eyes...
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  1044. ​ @seang2700  This is the truth of it! Membership definitely made us more prosperous, but all the benefits got funnelled to a small number of people. That needs to change, independently of our relationship with the EU
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  1045. @marcopolotimetraveller  gold is an unreactive metal with good electrical conductivity. It is one of the most malleable and ductile of metals It's market value is a curious and persistent bubble, but ultimately just as irrational as crypto
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  1046. We already have backlogs across every area of the civil service. It's going to be so much fun for everyone when there's even less staff 🙁
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  1047. @MinkieWinkle  doesn't change things much - private pensions are invested in the stock market - how are those stocks going to do in an economy short of workers? State or private, you need a good economy behind your pension
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  1048. Time to close this government for a month and see if anyone even notices a difference
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  1049. Give people more credit - we're smart enough to know the difference when someones says "I am going to Pride" vs "I have pride in my tomatoes"
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  1050.  @wayneford2481  yes, they are!
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  1051. ​ @zillafunfun1576  it's everything to do with the issue. The government claim there's no money, yet look at all these very recent examples where they had no problem finding money for their chums...
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  1052. Boris said he'd die in a ditch if their was another extension back in the day. I believe that ditch never got used in the end, so the option's there if you want it!
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  1053. To add more injury to the insult and injury, their willingness to sacrifice people to save the economy, didn't even save the economy
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  1054. Also, not sure if this is political propaganda or filthy fanfiction...
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  1055. Or in Toryspeak, chickenfeed and peanuts 🤔
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  1056.  @Purewalite  depends how progressive it is, and where the exceptions are. Obviously this isn't a policy proposal, if I suddenly became appointed to world king I'd get experts to cost and analyse it, but I'd propose things like an exemption for your primary residence. Alternatively, we go full revolutionary and socialise all housing. Probably to big too soon, but we need that honest and open conversation, and to start taking the safest steps as soon as possible so we can start to shake out the second order effects and respond to them
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  1057. ​ @RobinHarris-nf4yv state owned energy isn't neoliberal A state back de-risking fund to aid private energy investors is a bit neoliberal Guess which one Great British Energy actually is...
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  1058. ​ @JohnSmith-ls8tk  if you suspect people aren't being truthful, how do you know which story is the truth? What if they are both fictions?
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  1059.  @djstuc  That thing is a ceramic bucket...
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  1060. ​ @ColaSpandex I want to see it done through governmnent, but more regionally and locally, rather than all in high chambers The important thing is to do it democratically, so it works to give communities more productivity rather than giving a narrow few maximum wealth
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  1061. ​ @stewie7338 the Greens don't just have environmental policy. They also have great policies on housing and quality job creation too. They are a well rounded progressive party 🙂
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  1062. Beth Rigby: Here are lots of policies that are popular with the British public Liz Truss: They are all lefty ideas The conclusion is left wing politics are popular right now. Even the Tories say so!
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  1063. The Tories needed to invest in fixing things 10 years ago. They might have made a difference if they invested 5 years ago It's too late now. They can't turn the country around in mere months, and their only choice is how gracefully or disgracefully they bow out
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  1064.  @ageoflove1980  "overnight" is doing a lot of heavy lifting for something that would likely take multiple Parlimentary terms! I want the UK back in Europe, but undoing the political and economic damage necessary for a successful negotiation won't be quick 🙁
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  1065. ​ @jonrollerson7824  but as a nation, if we can't afford children, what future does our country have?
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  1066. It's almost like you didn't watch the video before commenting 🤔
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  1067.  @LS-xs7sg  if that's what you want, then you need to get organised, because you have a lot of gaps to plug! We don't grow enough food to be self sufficient, we don't export much, and financial and legal services are moving away because we are on the wrong side of all the regulatory barriers. You up for fixing all that?
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  1068. People want nationalised utilities. That is a majority. Why is nobody offering it?
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  1069.  @TaySplatoon  maybe not directly, but we are carrying them. They own a vast portfolio of land and property, supporting their lavish lifestyle, while being exempt from a lot of taxes They are that person who orders a really expensive drink when you buy a round, but never buys a round themselves. It's this, but on a national scale
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  1070. We can blame her - you don't get to dodge liability for arson because you're a pyromaniac...
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  1071.  @perolagrande  If the Tories went on strike, would we notice the difference?
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  1072.  @sanshuma0  if people vote for arson, arson they shall get Accountability works both ways. The government needs to be answerable to the people, and people need to take responsibility if problems are caused by a government doing what the people voted for Because what is the alternative? If an independent authority doesn't answer to the people, who do they answer to?
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  1073.  @johanlantz1474  I'm not a fan of this. With no central anchor, your currency swings wildly at the whim of speculators with enough assets to run pump and dump schemes It's not a fun foundation for your finances!
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  1074.  @iLAGnDC  so, France doesn't literally track every single person on their soil, they don't have satellites watching everyone What they do have is proper checks if you want a house, or a job. Living off the grid completely is very hard So, in France, you have two realistic options - register and go through formal processes, or keep moving. We could do the same in the UK, if we were serious about it
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  1075. I don't want a 1k bill if I need an ambulance!
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  1076. Tax any unproductive wealth, and use that to invest in infrastructure that will create jobs
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  1077. ​ @b00ts4ndc4ts Liz made some big changes - things went a bit wrong though...
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  1078. There was one month where we sold the EU a huge amount of natural gas, and trade figures looked really good for a bit Outside of that spike, trade is way down 🙁
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  1079.  @nick1065  Mogg himself has been on. Mogg did not perform well
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  1080. Everyone tells me he's a grown-up. Probably true, but not a very high bar!
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  1081. Wierd that you targeted Milliband, when Starmer and Streeting are right there to highlight first...
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  1082. ​ @tomfinney3416 I think Damo is getting big enough to attract opposition. I think there's a compliment of sorts going on here !
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  1083. Officially, 6 were registered voting against. There would have been a 7th, but he messed up the voting process, despite being a parliamentarian with over two decades of experience 🤔
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  1084. Horses don't understand the difference between "not my king" and "god save the king" If they can't cope with people shouting stuff, they shouldn't have been put in the middle of a noisy crowd
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  1085. Call his bluff then, and join the call for a wealth tax!
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  1086.  @skyblazeeterno  he's ambitious and ruthless, as the purges prove He's boring and unlikely to have any scandals Yeah, he'll be stable, until something outside of his control tips the balance 😁
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  1087. Best get rid of both, just to be safe!
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  1088. Why aren't we asking if there's someone out there who could do the CEO job for 100k a year less than the current one?
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  1089.  @markfox-potten4798  I think we should give it a try - give the CEO job to the most qualified person willing to do for 100k less than the current CEO. I reckon nobody will notice a difference, or maybe things might even run better! Fully agree on nurses 🙂
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  1090.  @britnatzaredemocracydenier5922  like I said, there's already accusations of being Tory-lite 😉
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  1091.  @HBOMB-nl9pw  we have a recruitment problem. Could this be because people are doing what you suggest, and having looked at the pay, aren't entering the profession? 🤔
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  1092. CEOs have managed to find the money for inflation busting pay rises - for themselves 🤔
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  1093. How can we reach out to LBC to find a safe way to get money to this guy in a way that preserves his privacy? If a funding page is set up, I am there to help!
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  1094. Everyone has a bias, but the Guardian's is less narrow and calculated than most of the alternatives
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  1095. Tories - claim to represent ordinary people Also Tories - no general election to find out what ordinary people really think!
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  1096. It's not manipulation that stops people having kids, but simple common sense. Kids are expensive, and a lot of people are skint
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  1097.  @johnrussell3961  you can do it with borrowing if it will generate a return on investment - like a state-owned power generation company, as an example 😉
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  1098. I don't get the idea that there's hard friction between identity politics and class politics We all have different lived experiences, but we need class solidarity against billionaire landlords if we want to afford a decent home. We can ackowledge differences while sharing the same core material interests
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  1099. ​ @bonwrentaylor2743  even describing it as "easy" or "speedy" is a long way from the truth
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  1100.  @vincentmckenna1755  are you talking about the nurses? 19% is just catching up after years of pay freezes. 19% would roughly match what they earned in 2010
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  1101.  @mesolithicman164  you know, you sound more radical than conservative!
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  1102. ​ @_melts I am in that 50k+ group, and I am happy for you to tax me more if you're fair, and also tax people a lot more if they have a lot more 🙂
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  1103. Heiniken don't personally come round and visit every single pub that they sell kegs to!
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  1104. Define far left. Is Starmer "far left"?
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  1105. The VVD need to take some responsibility for this. They claimed they would make life better for ordinary people, and didn't deliver This is a failing common to many parties who advocate that empowering the individual is the path to prosperity, but when in power pull up the ladder and only empower their chums
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  1106.  @rogerbarrett9920  Bendy bananas. The country is so much happier now bendy bananas are everywhere!
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  1107. Not really, as the national government is also part of the EU council The EU objection is to members who will happily put their hand out for the benefits, but bunk off on the responisibilities. Nobody likes a sponger, after all!
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  1108.  @terryboland3816  apologies, this is the level we're going to be at. Talking economics with you is pointless 🙁
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  1109. She had just literally had it spelled out. Suella has a listening problem!
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  1110. ​ @nicks4934 It's enough for now, but I think it will get stale, fast 🙁
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  1111.  @alipanroosendaal9503  and proper form in Yorkshire is theys not done nowt. What's your point?
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  1112.  @OneAndOnlyMe  I hope manage means counter, rather than appeasement!
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  1113. Wonder how low we could drop MP wages before they go on strike? 🤔
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  1114.  @joecater894  we've given trickle-down economics four decades to start trickling down. I think that's more than long enough, time to acknowledge it doesn't work!
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  1115. It is reducing a bit against the very strong Dollar Only the pound plummeted
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  1116. Someone working for 18k isn't just paying their own tax, they'll be earning their boss lots of money too It's still contributing to the economy, even if you never see a penny of it
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  1117. ​@davidknowles1219 what investments? They aren't investing anywhere useful, so what would we lose if they go?
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  1118. ​ @wolliebowl shareholder dividends also increase costs and can drive inflation, yet there never seems to be any great political panic about a dividend price spiral Funny that 🤔
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  1119. and what they have changed into is another Tory party
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  1120.  @Neil-qg9cw  two thoughts on this. One is tax assets that can't be moved. They can sell up if they like, then those assets can be bought up by someone who does care about the nation they are based in, who is willing to contribute to maintainance and investment in this country 🙂 The other is going to be a sore point for some people, but it needs saying. If you want compliance on tax, it helps to have a big stick to threaten those who don't want to comply Know what's big enough to work? Being excluded from business across an entire continent. That makes even the biggest corporation stop and pay attention!
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  1121.  @equaltoreality8028  Nonsense. Businesses go where the customers are. I am not suggesting we try take every penny, but there's plenty of middle ground between Tory lack of effort and overkill. You can tax quite highly if you have well paid workers providing a strong customer base
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  1122. ​@pineapplephill7934 but we share many of the same problems. A cooperative solution will work better than 20 different solutions all pulling in different directions!
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  1123.  @theymaycry9725  but how has the UK voted so far?
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  1124.  @johnrussell3961  only if shareholders agree. Making the government do it is boardroom realpolitik
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  1125. So far, it looks like Labour are slowing the rate of inequality growth, but I am not convinced they have a plan to actually reduce inequality
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  1126. One thing to note is how much warning Iran gave. If they intended maximum damage, they would have launched with as much secrecy as possible In as much as anything involving hundreds of leathal projectiles can be, this was a diplomatic statement. They wanted to get attention, but they left a door open for de-escalation If Iran wanted open war this would have been done in a very different manner
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  1127. @chrisj9700  he's an environmentalist, and an admirable campaigner, but I haven't seen any support for collective ownership from him anywhere
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  1128. ​ @nickmagee-brown739 do you remember the poll tax protests? I remember them Play silly games with postponing the election and the poll tax protests will look minor in comparison
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  1129. The plan is to plan a plan that plans our way to having a plan Plan plan plan plan plan....
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  1130. Selling crisps isn't a highly-qualified job, yet it's still more of a real job than many MPs have had!
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  1131. Something "Talk"TV needs to remember! They are the worst at just drowning out people who they don't agree with
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  1132. ​ @SL-sd3sg  shouting over people is what GBNews does when they know they haven't got anything else to counter with
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  1133. Labour tax and invest it in the country, the Tories tax and give it to their chums
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  1134. Seems pretty similar to the Tottenham riots. Why do you ask?
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  1135. ​ @chester6343 it only the highest taxes for certain people If you're ultra wealthy, your tax bill is golden...
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  1136. The "problem" is manufactured by the Tory media, so the quickest way to solve the problem is for the media to stop talking about it If there is a real issue, it's a backlog of claims, which is solved by hiring more people to process the claims It is that simple
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  1137. Well Wes, if you want to take the party to where the country is, renationalising utilities and kicking private subcontracts out of the NHS is hugely popular. Just saying...
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  1138. I am all ears!
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  1139. ​ @zetectic7968 it was a bad idea then, and it's still a bad idea now!
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  1140. @Gary Rowe  I don't feel I should take offense on someone else's behalf, but I will say I wouldn't have been happy if it was me he was dismissing like he did!
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  1141. Everyone's skint,you can't get an appointment at the doctors, there's no police when you need them, but this is a great country, he says! Make your mind up...
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  1142.  @moshedayan6698  Liz likes to kick the ladder out after she's climbed it. The only time she mentions her roots is to dump on them!
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  1143. Same country, very different worlds!
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  1144. ​ @archiebald4717 Hamas are not pleasant people, but they are all the Palestinian people have to push back against Israeli tanks and soldiers The only way to stop Hamas is give the Palestinian people a better option to defend against the IDF
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  1145. ​ @wishteria234 why? What can you do with millions that you can't do with hundreds of thousands? I only have so much time in a day!
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  1146. ​ @chatham43 he took a case, he got paid for representing that case Money followed. That was quick!
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  1147. Why don't more people talk about the Green party? They're not all about the environment, they have plans to help working class people It's almost like the mainstream media don't want people to know about them 🤔
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  1148.  @kimwit1307  no, but if they have to try and resolve their cognitive dissonance out loud, the results are often interesting I hope someone puts the question to them!
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  1149. I can't imagine they are too upset - they just got even more publicity!
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  1150. Moderation is all well and good for moderate problems. Are the problems we face merely moderate, though?
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  1151. Can we afford the UK financial crisis the Tories are currently triggering?
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  1152. Yep, pure sour grapes. He's pretending he's taking a stand when really nobody but Boris would ever give him a job!
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  1153.  @chrisj9700  the EU is hardly sovereignty, just UK bankers upset about having to comply with anti tax avoidance directives...
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  1154.  @EmpiricalMind  what if the best interests of the UK are to be part of the local bloc that does lots of high value internal trade, and has lots of negotiating weight in the global market?
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  1155. Indeed. Telegraph readers should be proud that their newspaper is respecting it's own principles!
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  1156. Turned the corner, and stopped still, with one foot in each!
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  1157.  @gabrieldsouza6541  subsidies were daft because they took money from where money was tight (public funding) to protect profits so lavish, that even the conpanies making those profits were saying they should be taxed on them! That's a really negligent way to manage public money
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  1158.  @gabrieldsouza6541  the money went to people - and then straight to conpanies making more money than they knew what to do with. That's literal, by the way - they said they were making so much they couldn't invest it anywhere If that isn't a fair threshold for "making too much money", I don't know what is!
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  1159. I think Nick is starting to realise the team he has loyally shilled for for decades, don't deserve that loyalty Not fun being politically homeless, is it Nick?
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  1160. Down is a direction of motion...
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  1161. She's definitely sharp. What I am less clear on is where she sees us. Is she growing the economy for our benefit, or are we just meat to be fed into the economic grinder? I worry it's the latter...
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  1162.  @Nikki-wy8wo  this is the most necessary time for government spending. Too much UK wealth is stagnant property investments. We need to put money in productive businesses and people's pockets to get money moving We tried austerity back in 2008. It didn't work, and that's how we ended up where we are now
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  1163. Is it OK to treat UK citizens better than non-UK citizens? If it is, why is a three-tier system unacceptable while a two-tier system is acceptable?
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  1164.  @MegaAndrich  CPS dropped the Savile case due to lack of evidence. If there was a cover-up, look to the police and their shallow 'investigation'
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  1165. ​ @BenKing-o7l  well, if I ever need surgery, I'd like an expert surgeon. Who would you pick?
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  1166. ​@stephfoxwell4620 thing is, people keep retiring, and we have less people being born than retire If you don't want immigration, which jobs do you want to leave unfilled as people retire?
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  1167.  @azillliasmith2734  from babies born 66 years ago?
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  1168. There's no cheap fossil fuels left in the UK - all the easy fields are dry, and what's left is awkward and expensive
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  1169. ​ @royboy565  people claim to want honesty in politics, but keep voting for corrupt liars...
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  1170. ​@Raymondo666 had a takeaway while on a work trip. Which is mundane and normal
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  1171.  Jay Bee  one solution offered is vote out the Tory party. Let's give that solution a go!
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  1172. ​@dogglebird4430you have a right to a basic bank account by law If you want one with the fancy bells and whistles, that's at the discretion of the institution in question Also ironic, the right to a bank account is one of those "EU laws" farage hates so much. He's been capaigning to remove the very right he is invoking here!
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  1173. I understand your concerns, but we haven't even got rejoin on the table of mainstream political discussion yet. Is it a bit too soon to be worrying about how the end plays out?
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  1174. The policies that are running the Tories into extinction are policies that help the country!
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  1175. Do we want the future to be in the hands of the best from the entirety of our next generation, or limit our future to come from the least worst of the rich 1% ? Limiting our options for finding future talent will never be the best option for our nation
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  1176. If they don't want to be part of society, they should leave We know they won't though - they're happy of own big chunks of the country, and profit from them, but don't pay for the upkeep If they want to own everything, they need to pay to keep things running. Alternatively, give it back for us to fix and run Pick one though, because trying to cherry pick the best of both is literally collapsing the country!
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  1177. I'd double check what you private insurance covers before you wish away the NHS. Comprehensive medical that replaces NHS cover would be a lot more expensive!
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  1178. I don't think the crises are engineered,but it's very true that the Tories always make ordinary people take the burden!
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  1179.  @bronoun8884  I don't even know what the TV says. What does the TV say?
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  1180. ​ @rickknight3823  history shows that high taxes on wealth leads to strong economies - eg the American New Deal Cutting tax is a disaster - eg Liz Truss The historical precedent is clear
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  1181. ​@massivehero4871 technically "apologist and propagandist for war criminals", but that can be a bit too wordy if it's not a formal statement in a court of law!
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  1182. At least it's done in plain sight. Now, if people vote for the billionaire-funded party, don't act all surprised if the billionaire party looks after billionaires, not us!
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  1183. ​ @JH-lf4ql before celebrating the win too enthusiastically, have you checked the small print on the prize?
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  1184. ​@Ian Oliver a mixed model of state run services and free market capitalism. Think nordic Europe, or post WW2 UK
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  1185. So, hundreds of thousands of people die, and you don't want to try and learn so we can do better in future? Would you say the same thing after a train crash, or plane crash, as an example?
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  1186. this, and "but the private sector does have money - let's give everything to them" 🤬
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  1187. Etonians don't understand 'friend' - everyone is either Lord or Servant in their screwy world!
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  1188. Maybe they are already here, but hidden and scattered amongst everyone else Would you consider three or four people sharing a one bed flat to be shanty town conditions? Because such conditions have existed for decades, and are only getting more common
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  1189. ​ @growlerthe2nd712  Yep! Restraint is needed on capital gains, not wages!
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  1190. Go to med school then!
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  1191. ​@mrradman2986 population expansion was inevitable, because of all the old people. Government should have been planning for this, rather than kicking the can down the road and hoping someone else would solve it!
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  1192. It's the old trick of socialising the risky expensive bit, while keeping the safe profitable bit private We're still going to be paying massive sums to rent the trains and other rolling stock
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  1193. This has upsides - if money loses value, you don't want to stockpile it - you have to use it and keep it active. It discourages Smaug piles
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  1194. Farage works for multinational capital too 🙄
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  1195. I doubt we'll be that lucky 🙁 It will be a massive Labour majority, where Starmer and chums do what they like
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  1196. ​@fatphoca5009 but she will go public, as long as everyone else does Why should only one MP give up their privacy? Let's have the same rule for everyone!
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  1197. She's definitely better when she's allowed to go beyond the official party script!
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  1198.  @the_real_tho4346  Thankfully their time is running out - only a few years left to endure...
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  1199.  @lukaszplonka3857  but a lot of the inflation is caused by resource scarcity. When there's resource scarcity, massive wealth imbalance lets a minority outbid and monopolise those scarce resources, and thus push prices and inflation higher
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  1200. At least there was a naive logic to the economic backtracking - definitely naive though, as it requires ignoring a lot of evidence and economic precedent. Nobody has ever fixed an austerity-ravaged economy with slightly milder austerity! This pledge is just straight-up turning Tory though...
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  1201. ​ @bobsmithy9024  That's just common sense negotiation. You don't set figures when you're not at the table, otherwise you're shooting yourself in the foot
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  1202. @StuartJ  Applications are confidential, so we probably can't fact check who he has or has not applied to
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  1203. ​@fumbleBumble82 so much this. Reality will cut through eventually, it's just a question of how high the pain threshold is
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  1204. @JoeKurt  sounds like you're maybe about a decade behind where the UK is on sleepwalking into a mess because people don't want to admit the present isn't automatically as good as the past was 🙁
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  1205. Not all jewish people are greedy, selfish and money-obsessed, but some people who are greedy, selfish and money-obsessed are jewish Does 'being jewish' give the greedy, selfish and money obsessed a free pass from any scrutiny or criticism?
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  1206. ​ @davidthomas9165  fundamentalist Unionism is a shrinking demographic. Will it have any relevance in a decade's time?
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  1207. There's not much difference between Kier and Rishi as individuals, but the difference between their backbenches and their membership is vast
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  1208.  @jasonkingshott2971  yes! Would you accept the trade access, but all the trading regulations are set for us with no seat for us at the table?
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  1209.  @oweng7987  Brexit was leaving a trade bloc. Trade is about as economics-y as can be!
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  1210.  @oweng7987  A Yorkshire parish Council isn't going to be able to have a meaningful negotiation with an American multinational The EU can That's the heart of my answer. Local government for local issues, big collective government when you need big, collective weight
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  1211.  @Free__Speech  this was a journalist, reporting the story from the side of the road, nowhere near the traffic 🙄
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  1212.  @Free__Speech  keep digging. Your lame excuses just highlight how wrong this authoritarian regime is
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  1213. Yeah, they've already named it "fiscal discipline"
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  1214. We need investment, not austerity Look at America - they are investing, and everything is picking up. The UK needs to do the same No more austerity!
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  1215. Just admit you didn't even listen to her speak Actually, no need. You've already admitted you didn't listen!
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  1216. ​@aituk let's face it, it's not going to be done right. It's Tories looking for thinly veiled slave labour
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  1217. Most people? Unless you can fit your whole life in a backpack, you'll likely be getting a lift when you move to uni
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  1218. ​ @zeeone4492 we are literally the electorate
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  1219. ​ @claudiocravo5941 rebalance the tax burden or look at how it is spent - why or? Why not both?
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  1220. So let's talk about it If you don't want immigration, who do you propose fills our job vacancies? Are you going to force people out of retirement?
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  1221. ​ @massivehero4871 I am not a communist, but recently they've been putting forward a better argument than the status quo does I don't want pure communism, but we need to involve them in the discussion, as excluding them has not been good for our political debate
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  1222. ​ @JupiterThunder but we won't be paying for healthcare - as much money as possible will go to new superyachts, not medicine
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  1223. Sorry mate, I feel terrible laughing at your misfortune, but that post had a real grim beauty to it. It is indeed a fitting accompaniment to Farage!
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  1224.  @ScragNath  why would they care about the people leaving?
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  1225. Sounds like you're trying to make bullying the victims fault. I don't agree with you there
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  1226. ​@jamescooke6032 always remember how much influence UKIP had despite close to zero Westminster success. It won't take many Green votes to have an affect bigger than their number of MPs
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  1227. Instead of listing examples of Tory corruption and incompetence, it might be quicker to list their successes? Anyone got one to start the list?
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  1228.  @jloae820  yes, plenty of evidence that kids from children's homes are more likely to have psychological issues. Not all, but the trend is undeniable
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  1229. The EU gets it's money from tax, in a very large and very productive economy. It's a beneficial cycle - the EU manages a successful economy, so people and businesses are successful and able to afford the tax
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  1230. Any plan so easily derailed wasn't much of a plan, was it?
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  1231. ​@ChrisumChrisumChrisum666to be fair, I haven't heard her get her own name wrong, so there is that!
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  1232. I still long for the future we could have had if even just 1/10th of Corbyn's manifesto was implemented The cost of living crisis wouldn't have hit us half as hard
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  1233.  @quillo2747  we need to provide for people starting their retirement If we don't, we can all look forward to having to work til we die, and I don't like the sound of that!
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  1234. Falling in line works if the leader is competent, but is a disaster if not Sometimes a bit of dissent and debate is good and healthy. We are now seeing the tragic consequences of blind, unquestioning faith and loyalty
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  1235. He won't need to kiss Murdoch's ring, that is a huge step forward over every previous PM 🙂
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  1236. but everyone has an ideology. Were you maybe thinking of dogmatism?
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  1237. so how's unbound capitalism working out for present day UK?
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  1238. Hmm, do I want my taxes to go towards building up UK power generation capacity, or on tax subsidies for rich bankers? 🤔 I'll take nationalised power, thanks!
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  1239. The question of who investigates financial fraud is a bit of a technicality Whether an internal matter, or a response to a police investigation, the bank still needs to know the same facts either way. In a police investigation, they will be asking the bank more questions than they ask the individual Financial misdeeds are best caught early, too. Fraud prevented is better than trying to reclaim money that's already vanished
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  1240.  @KernowDamo  yep, Tories would rather let the nation burn than tax their chums properly 🙁
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  1241. How about we follow Nigel Farage's wisdom instead? a '52-48 result would be unfinished business' There's not much we agree on, but he nailed it with that one!
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  1242. They're used Boris Johnson's yearly bills as an estimate
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  1243.  @JH-lf4ql  i just can't see it 🙁 He reminds me too much of Cameron (and Reeves of Osborne) Sure, it's preferable to any of the current horrorshow, but I can't feel any win from a return to Cameron and Osborne style government
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  1244. He's not even done his first jail term yet!
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  1245. I agree that shop and bar work is good experience, but compelling people to do so on crap pay is not the way to do it!
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  1246.  @davidcooks2379  I agree with the first bit, but I'm u comfortable with the second. What do people do if they're disabled, or if there is no work right now?
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  1247. There's also a strong link between stress and ill heath. That negative sounds more likely than any benefit, given the state of the job market and our transport infrastructure right now
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  1248. ​@Quaterpounder-pc2ucdifferent opinions are fine, but we need to draw the line at "alternative facts"
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  1249.  @peaceunion5316  Even if they don't work, it's hardly end of civilisation front-page news...
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  1250. The Tories have never had 50% of the vote, ever So if the electoral system was fair they would never have had the majority of seats, ever
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  1251. @ster2600  cancelling nonsense projects isn't austerity. Cancelling the necessary ones, like repairing hospitals, and the productive ones, like transport infrastructure - that is austerity
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  1252. Our press and journalists need calling out too - how many of them were cheerleading the vandalism, all the way til things caught fire? In a sane world, us general public would never trust any of those publications ever again
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  1253. @cupguin  some variant of 'full UKIP' seems likely. The factions are forming, and both the major ones are ideologues - Truss has a group determined to try their low-tax deregulation madness again , while the the other is going for flag-waving authoritarian nostalgia I hope they wreck each other!
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  1254.  @stevej1818  Fracking isn't suited to the uk. The US has very specific geology that works for fracking When they tried it in Poland it was a very expensive failure. Our geology is closer to Poland than the US
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  1255. ​ @alseeineye  let me give you the words of Nigel Farage, the one time I agreed with him 52/48 is unfinished business
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  1256.  @jamesberry5578  How to short the Pound? We've just seen it done right in front of our faces 😳
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  1257. ​ @maximemeis2867 design and engineering are making more than the child labourers, but they aren't the billionaires either
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  1258.  @chrispennington9652  By that reckoning we shouldn't be sending anyone to Rwanda - they are more densely populated than we are We also need to start accepting more from the Netherlands, too, as they are packed in denser than we are!
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  1259. The public were already suffering. The strikes are a tiny blip against thr spectacular waiting lists the Tories built up over 14 years!
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  1260. ​ @Nat19041 how are you going to recruit and retain staff if the UK has one of the worst wages relative to the cost of living here?
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  1261.  @rogerhearn5243  That's what I will find out - when is a plain piece of paper "too political"?
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  1262. You know why they call it working from home? Because you're working, from home...
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  1263. @Tom Investment in what? Fancy boardroom chairs? It certainly wasn't in water quality!
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  1264. Better to set taxes than crash the currency. What use is low tax if the money in your pocket has 25% less purchasing power than it did last year?
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  1265. ​ @ramieskola7845 no suppression,but definitely persecution when they do crimes
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  1266.  @petertyrrell1847  I haven't forgotten, because it was never true
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  1267.  @oneoflokis  so which of the four Tory Prime Ministers to you think was better than Tony Blair?
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  1268. @bobhill4364  again, a discretionary commodity that people could stop buying if they don't like what's offered Why won't you talk about essential commodities like food, power and medicine?
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  1269. People are sick of being unable to get a deposit for a mortgage because they're already paying someone else's mortgage We are trapped in a deeply screwed up system
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  1270. Lol?
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  1271. alternatively, "Is that from the cabinet, or the party?"
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  1272. And we all know that either way, corrupt or incompetent, they shouldn't be anywhere near government!
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  1273. ​ @iankelly8666 your definition says "all" - we're not suggesting all, merely the natural monopolies that go horribly wrong if left in the hands of someone unaccountable to the people who use that service
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  1274. We don't need those scroungers anyway, so that's no great loss
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  1275.  @susancurtis1651  I don't remember many people really caring before 2016. There was the odd snarky article in the papers about some EU regulations, but I don't remember it being anything more organised than that. Why was everything so quiet if it was such a concern?
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  1276. @susan curtis  They went to the highest bidder. Not just EU countries - also China, India and the USA. The sellout wasn't fussy about who did the buying
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  1277. @susan curtis  we're not going anywhere. We love our country too much to give up on our future!
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  1278. @susan curtis  that sounds a bit over the top to me, I just can't see everyone in Europe going along with something like that!
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  1279.  @lukaszpawlowski6078  although at least we are back to the slow puncture failure, rather than the off-a-cliff failure, so that's better than it was last month...
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  1280. ​ @stevebrooks6275 Labour are benefiting drom Tory incompetence, but Starmer himself is almost as unpopular as the Tories!
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  1281. It's better than rises for income tax, national insurance or VAT 🙂
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  1282. Starve at home, cold and alone?
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  1283. Is there an uninhabited island we can use as a "charter city", send Tufton St there, and let them go nuts? They get to implement their wild ideas, and nobody else gets dragged into it. Win for everyone!
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  1284. @user-rb3jw7yj9o  it probably does count, although the exploitation is limited by being a small zone in a massive city If people don't like jobs there, they can leave and find a similar job outside the zone, with little or no difference to their commute If a charter took over Sheffield, for example, the effort required to escape the charter would be far higher 🙁
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  1285. No they didn't
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  1286. Did you loot the Greggs, or the Shoezone?
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  1287.  @adamrules01  Norway disagrees. We should learn from their example!
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  1288. Why? Mogg would love a Stasi of his own!
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  1289. What makes you think that the Tories wouldn't continue austerity? Hunt was desperate to cut taxes, which means austerity for public services
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  1290. China disagrees with your assessment, and as a result China is gaining a lot of allies around the world Funny how that works!
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  1291. The best punishment for Pierce would be for him to have to get a useful job Anyone suspect he would struggle in all these "low skilled" jobs he looks down on?
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  1292.  @davidpearson243  about right. Blame Labour, blame each other, maybe blame the EU (somehow) Anything except accept responsibility themselves!
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  1293. The real question is "who owns the bar?"
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  1294.  @robertwilliams2323  I also imagine a lot more emails have been sent in the last thirty years than in the previous two thousand!
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  1295. ​ @evolassunglasses4673 I am sure "being born to rich parents" was an epic effort on their part 🙄
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  1296. Wierd how Rishi suddenly shows genuine passion and energy when he might have to pay more tax 🤔
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  1297. ​@Shelley Lyme The Rwanda plan is basically the Madagascar plan. Do you know who's plan the Madagascar plan was?
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  1298. That's because the Tories have exactly two plans...
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  1299. Because if they cut it, they draw attention to it, and it's harder to reinstate it later This way keeps it largely invisible, especially when most of the press will happily ignore it
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  1300.  @adenwellsmith6908  why don't people who don't want to contribute to the society they live in do the honorable thing and leave?
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  1301. What use is increased GDP if all the wealth ends up in tax havens and foreign boardrooms?
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  1302. He can promise to start the process, even if it won't be finished in one term
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  1303.  @sareedoahmed1751  I will allow that some government business is sensitive and shouldn't be public knowledge, even in a government with professional standards and integrity It should all be viewable by a former senior judge leading a serious public inquiry though!
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  1304.  @blkhistorydecoded  For what it's worth, I have a friend in Kiev, or rather he was, as he and his family have evacuated west. If Russia is just after a few separatists, they are making a lethal mess while doing so ☹
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  1305. Everyone's rent and bills keep going up. We all need pay rises! We should learn from the rail workers, not moan about them 🙂
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  1306.  @davelee8107  A lot of those people on benefits are people in work! Rather than trying to drag railway workers down, why don't we raise everyone else up too?
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  1307. Should we take a lecture on "affordable pay" from people who said Liz Truss is an economic genius?
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  1308.  @household6098  the EU and America can settle their disagreements without bombing Ukrainian towns. It's a shame Putin can't manage the same
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  1309. A certain Austrian painter was democratically elected. Democracy isn't a magic defence against atrocities 🙁
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  1310. I am sure Truss can beat that if we're daft enough to give her another chance 😳
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  1311. Only if you give it to people who already have money, as then they will use the extra capital to outbid others for assets, pushing prices up Use the new money on infrastructure investment, and the money doesn't affect existing asset prices. If it does, it brings asset prices down - for example, if you use the money to build houses, you increase the supply which makes housing less scarce How you use new money makes a big difference. Trussonomics will cause instability, but infrastructure investment won't
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  1312. I am no fan of Streeting, and in fact I'm helping campaign against him in his constituency, but I will say it took Alan Milburn 10 years to fix the NHS last time, so I don't expect anyone to fix it any quicker this time
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  1313. And they already have Investor State Dispute Settlement, aka businesses get to sue for compensation if the government passes a law they don't like... 😳
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  1314.  @stephennutt4083  because CPTPP gives lots of power to corporations. I suspect she has a seat on a board lined up with someone for when she quits politics
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  1315.  @martinspencer1618  so if there are no immigrants and you don't need immigrants, why do you have an issue with immigration to regions that do need the workers?
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  1316.  @BENTWOONEZERO  Nowt wrong with higher taxes if they are spent right and you see the difference in schools, and hospitals, and know that you won't have a huge backlog if you need to renew your passport or driving licence!
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  1317. I had mates with one parent, I had mates with two mums, I had mates with 'normal' families We all turned out alright because we looked out for each other. Caring is more important than tickbox 'normalness' 🙂
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  1318.  @danielwebb8402  win an election? Fantastic idea! Let's have one as soon as possible!
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  1319.  @philmuggeson1849  but plenty of countries have recovered from covid. Want to speculate why we haven't bounced back in the UK?
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  1320. ​@EvoraGT430 when her project is no longer part of our day-to-day life
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  1321. ​ @scallamander4899 it would make sense - if you need a coalition representing more than 50% of the population, you can't play to 30% of the population in a way that burns bridges with the other 70%
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  1322. Le Pen might manage to outdo Liz Truss on the unrichment front...
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  1323. and I know a few trans people. They're people
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  1324. ​@lolwalters2936 I know you're joking about the general elections,but the 10 year anniversary of the referendum does sound like a good time to check back with the public and see how they feel now
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  1325. ​ @mattwebb5532 he's definitely changed since then. You can prefer young Starmer or prefer modern Starmer, but they clearly have different principles!
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  1326. A job vacancy in London isn't much use for someone living in Carlisle
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  1327. There will always be a lack of substantive responses. Expect them to be honing their whataboutism and personal attacks as we speak!
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  1328. Also, next time you vote, remember which political party has been the party of austerity for over a decade!
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  1329.  @TvonToby3254  If we're talking public services, trashing public services is absolutely a Tory thing
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  1330.  @helendancelot  fair point, although sadly not one that's motivating many of the people who ask the "what is a woman" question
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  1331. The Tories haven't even tried to make it work yet. It's like a plumber agreeing a quote to fix a leaky tap, and then before even seeing the tap, declaring the whole kitchen needs replacing...
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  1332. "We will crowdfund it, and I will represent the case in court, pocketing all the cash myself" might be something some people would expect might happen!
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  1333. but only covers a few electives, not emergencies
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  1334. As a northerner in London I totally get this. It's daft whichever side you look at it from!
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  1335. Can't see that happening. The only reason the train companies are holding out is because the government is providing a bottomless slush fund to protect the company profits Even this government wouldn't want to do that for a strike that blocks petrol supplies. I am confident that without a bottomless money pit on the company side, a negotiated settlement would be found before strikes happen
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  1336. With the austerity excuses and superficial smarminess, I am struggling to find a material difference between Sir Keith and David Cameron...
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  1337. ​ @gpw203 rockets sound big and difficult to sneak in, but compared to enough food to feed over one million people - rockets are tiny
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  1338.  @cee-cee  many do! Far more stay in France than cross the Channel...
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  1339. @Ali Al-Mahdi I will never be in those shoes because the choices that hot him there aren't the one I would choose I could never be the reverse Robin Hood of Tunbridge Wells, for example!
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  1340. Old people are expensive. They've been talking about our aging population for decades, but didn't do anything to prepare for it...
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  1341. I am going to vote LibDem. They stand a good chance of winning here, and while they are mostly indistinguishable from Labour, at least the LibDems are openly calling for electoral reform!
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  1342. Not all attention is good for narcissists We need to ask questions like "will President Musk give trump permission to invade Scotland"
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  1343. I hope Jamie Driscoll wins, and the Labour executive realise how short-sighted they are It's true that we can't beat the Tories without Labour, but I fear we haven't beaten the Tories if we get Starmer. He's just more austerity and more privatisation
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  1344.  @ricado372  what if the cost for beating these Tories, is giving a different flavour of Tory control? Starmer, Reeves and Streeting are still talking austerity and privatisation. They may not be continuing the culture war, but they are sticking with Tory economics Let's back Jamie Driscoll, and let Tyneside lead the way in showing there is another way forward. If Starmer is smart, he'll follow
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  1345. When will the referendum be?
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  1346.  @williampatrickfagan7590  No, we're the feudal state that needs fixing!
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  1347. 100% on taxing unproductive wealth. Stop skivers and shirkers from sitting on the wealth from other people's hard work!
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  1348. Statistically speaking, I must have stood next to an antisemite at some point! Am I an antisemite too?
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  1349. If another country wants casino economics at the heart of their nation, good luck to them! Sounds like a win if the cowboys move somewhere else
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  1350. ​ @tomjones8715  You say they are both as bad as each other and that Labour are far worse than the Tories. Which is it? (Trick question of course, the Tories are the worst!)
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  1351. ​ @FreaksSpeaks that sounds like a good incentive to not overvalue your assets to me!
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  1352. I can only assume some Tory voters live in an isolated box with no exposure to the outside world except a postal vote form every 4-5 years
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  1353. I still have respect for people who are promoting tactical voting while also still being activist to fix Labour (even if I suspect they are shouting at a brick wall) Definitely agree that the vote Labour-job done types are enabling something horrible!
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  1354. ​@Ian Close but won't the seperation by birth characteristics force big, bearded, testosterone-filled trans men into female spaces?
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  1355. In a free and democratic society, those members deserve a party to represent them In a sane and fair society, that party would not get many votes Are we slowly becoming a sane and fair society?
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  1356. The ERG is loosely defined. If the broadest group votes against, that could be enough to break confidence in the givernment, but if it's only the very core ERG then it would be a minor backbench rebellion that won't be an issue Current gossip suggests it will only be the most stubborn few rebelling, so Sunak has probably kept the Party on the rails... for now
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  1357.  @MS-ub7un  also not Covid. The backlogs were well on their way before Covid, too
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  1358. At least the tree trunk wouldn't interrupt to spout nonsense!
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  1359. We need journalists who hold the government to account! Even if we had a way for the public to call for an early election, would it be used? Too many journalists provide excuses to cover for government failings rather than hold them to account.
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  1360. They should be free if you already have a passport or driving licence. Really, they should be free, full stop! A small admin fee for replacements if you lose it would be acceptable
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  1361. ​@dogglebird4430even Farage and Tice are saying it now, that's how bad Brexit is
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  1362. Don't need a compass to drop downwards 🙁
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  1363. I appreciate the humility of your correction, but they have been pretty appalling in the North East, too!
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  1364. Trump is talking about leaving NATO, but can he get that through senate and congress? I expect the lobbying against such a move will be ferocious
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  1365.  @lukemurray4950  one of the key blocs who voted against almost every withdrawal agreement were the ERG, who are Brexit hardliners who claimed the agreement was the wrong sort of Brexit Brexiteers couldn't agree what Brexit should look like, don't blame Remain for that chaos!
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  1366. Sometimes you have to vote for the least worst Tory to keep the ultra Tory out of government 🙁
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  1367.  @YellowfinGrouper  but do vote. Ideally vote tactically for whoever can unseat the Tories, but vote for someone - if you don't the people writing manifestos will assume they can ignore you, because you're not a voter
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  1368. ​ @MCDONALD6969 problem is we end up with no social mobility, and an idiocracy where the important descisions for society are made by people who's greatest achievement and "talent" was "being born lucky"
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  1369.  @MCDONALD6969  I'm going to guess you did that 30-40 years ago? It's a very different economic climate now
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  1370. Not finding enough bendy bananas in the shops, eh?
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  1371. Lineker, Rashford - can we just replace the government with former and current England players? Can't see how it could be worse than what we have now!
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  1372.  @Ben21756  not just the individual casualties though - the neighbourhoods bombed to dust, the airstrikes on refugee camps - the whole picture as far as we can see from the outside It's unimaginable that you can have destruction on that scale without also having large scale casualties
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  1373. and indeed, which donors have invested in Liz...
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  1374. @Pemj  worse, the councils didn't get the money from the sales. Westminster kept the money
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  1375.  @originalbadboy32  They need the votes of people who voted to leave, but they don't need the support of Brexiteers The distinction can be subtle, but is very important!
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  1376. On that note, did Musk and Zuckerberg ever actually have that fight?
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  1377.  @peterwest5525  Why limit yourself to one paper nowadays? All of them are online. You can read about the same story from several viewpoints without spending anything. Take in all sides and make your own mind up 🙂
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  1378.  @glynnwright1699  No, but they are affected by distance. France and Spain are close by. Outside of the EU Morroco isn't too far away, but after that our options fall off rapidly, especially for food that doesn't travel well, like most fruit and salad vegetables. If we exclude the EU, our winter diet is going to be limited or very expensive. That's agriculture and geography, not politics
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  1379. They are constituency MPs, there to represent their community, not to blindly follow the PM. If their constituents want Boris gone then they did their job properly by voting as they did
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  1380. What percentage of the country is that though? 20% ? 10% ?
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  1381. It's easy for Liz to say she's standing firm - it's not her money she's flushing down the toilet, it's ours
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  1382.  @imemine6494  The police couldn't provide any usable evidence. This was a police failure, not the CPS
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  1383. A weak effort, but I like this better than allcaps hatespeech, so 2/10
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  1384. ​ @chrisnaylor6814  what was needed was details. Brexit was an open promise, that implied completely different things to different people It wouldn't have been unfair to get Brexiteers to agree the Brexit they wanted before the referendum, and make it clear that their mandate needed refreshing if they couldn't secure the deal they promised
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  1385. Maybe that's the point? Scotland has a liferaft that England doesn't
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  1386. The Tories should have this as their election slogan - "vote Labour and never have a Conservative government again" See what people think of that!
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  1387. Not true, most people want to do something with their life. I've been unemployed. I wasn't starving, but I was bored stupid People want to work, they just don't want to work for someone who is taking the piss
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  1388.  @aminulhussain2277  yep! They thought they were being sneaky-corrupt, but they are actually incompetent-corrupt
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  1389. @Bevrinton  water - privatised, terrible Power - privatised, most expensive in Europe Rail - privatised, poor and still heavily subsidised NHS - heavily subcontracted to private firms. Delivering poorer results despite increasing funding as a result I feel I've missed one or two, but the pattern is clear - privatisation delivers worse results at higher cost
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  1390. ​ @clivet3252 the accusations were many. The evidence, scarce
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  1391. Starmer needs to be PM as soon as possible. We can't afford this insanity to continue!
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  1392. General Election Now! Let's find out 🙂
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  1393. General Election Now!
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  1394. Chona has been looking to push the dollar out of the oil market for awhile now If they're going to do so, it has to be soon - there won't be a better opportunity than this current US chaos
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  1395. Government needs to be transparent and accountable. That's what's needed, and you can do that without shrinking the state and privatising everything!
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  1396. Pointing out that the needs of the economy should not be presumed ahead of time isn't being wooly. It merely acknowledges that setting numbers ahead of time is putting headlines ahead of effective policy We definitely need more effective policy, and less government by headlines!
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  1397. Low in the short term, but should this succeed it's going to cut through a lot of apathy. People will see ordinary people can make a difference, and that could grow into something very positive indeed!
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  1398. Because they are the future of London Would you prefer Dickensian slums instead?
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  1399. You also need to watch post-Parlimentary careers. A lot of 'jobs' are just postponed bungs for the lobbying done during their time in Parliament
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  1400. I live in such a city, but sadly not such a country, it seems 🙁
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  1401. Some people have asked if it's possible to rebuild the NHS during a tough economy - well, Atlee's Labour built it in the aftermath of WW2. Starmer's Labour can rebuild it in the aftermath of Truss 🙂
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  1402. Without being too graphic, it's true that the bacteria levels aren't an issue, but anything lumpy would be a hazard to reliable cooling
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  1403. ​ @huwwiliams8426 this! Vote outside the establishment, or spoil your ballot Make sure they know we are unhappy, but not apathetic!
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  1404.  @daveyr7454  maybe you don't earn enough!
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  1405. Yet somehow she understands the economy, and what's happening in the NHS better than Schapps with his grammar school education and his degree! Someone needs to review our education system 🤔
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  1406.  @celltest7645  even as the incumbent, she'd need some level of campaining to get the message out that people need to look for her name as an independent and not quickly tick Labour again like they're used to doing
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  1407. So many people are quick to blame immigration, but I wonder if any country will actually be mad enough to deport all their low paid key workers? The result will be interesting, although catastrophic. I feel truly sorry for anyone caught up in the aftermath who didn't vote for it
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  1408. Honestly, don't do it. Go for a bare minimum confidence and supply in return for Proportional Representation. Leave them as a minority government if they won't Anything deeper will just get you tarred with the same brush as Labour, and hurt in the long run
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  1409. ​@Mark D the rendency to be less radical is definitely real, but I hope the tendency towards reactionary isolationism is optional!
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  1410.  @satyasyasatyasya5746  better late than never!
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  1411.  @pamvarnsverry2444  if it reduces tax dodging, the reform could pay for itself 🙂
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  1412. @GRTCARA  why don't we just fix the NHS so it works? Get rid of all the crony contracts and extortionate agencies so the money can be spent on healthcare? (and yes, put a bit more money in. The current spend per head is below average for a developed nation)
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  1413.  @garethbull8844  could be? Whatever it is, I think he's had his "wait, are we the bad guys?" moment!
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  1414. I can tell it's a long time since you've been exposed to the private rental market - maybe you've never lived in a private rental at all
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  1415.  @thetruth9210  does he not promote the fallacy that persecuting minorities will solve systemic problems?
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  1416. ​ @User1billionnd1 and the problem with that style is that when it goes wrong, it goes spectacularly wrong...
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  1417.  @mike-A299  it's just say what you see The closest things we have to exceptions are people who started at very comfortably upper middle class and became billionaires. No billionaire worked their way up from a minimum wage starter role
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  1418. Nick wants the police to be respected - I bet those officers got more respect by getting involved with the occasion than they would by standing stiff and glowering at everyone
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  1419.  @fredatlas4396  I reckon there's a lot of people who care, but are utterly exhausted just surviving right now 🙁
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  1420.  @richardlewis7498  well, did you get the Brexit you voted for?
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  1421.  @aituk  Did we need to reform freedom of movement? The UK didn't even use the full controls available - back when the UK was in the EU we had one of the most open policies on immigration in the whole EU. Pretty much everyone else had tighter controls, all fully EU compliant
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  1422.  @paddyjoe1884  it is depressing and scary just how many of the "red line, this is why we have to leave the EU" issues were Tory/Westminster policies, not EU ones, and could have been solved in Westminster while fully in the EU
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  1423. a '52-48 result would be unfinished business' Nigel Farage Just reminding everyone of those very relevant words!
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  1424.  @zeberdizzle  show me a politician serving at that time who didn't back the Iraq war! The Tories were particularly enthusiastic...
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  1425.  @ryantate6447  well, he's human - he's not perfect as nobody is perfect. He's one of the best Mayors we've had though, and miles ahead of the alternative the Tories are putting forward!
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  1426. ​ @vargr2089  you can be there for your brother on a personal level without inflicting him on us in a "professional" capacity!
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  1427. It comes across a bit like a grownup wanting a gold star for tying their own shoelaces, but I don't have a problem with it!
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  1428. @Future Classics  we don't have to guess whether public or private works best, we have the evidence in front of us The Tories have been subcontracting more and more out privately. Has it got better or worse in the last ten years as a result?
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  1429. I wish the Tories were on strike. They'd do less harm if they didn't turn up to work
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  1430. ​ @Steven-ly9ei  they are always saying how amazing an opportunity Rwanda is... 🤔
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  1431. If Rwanda is wonderful, how will an all expenses paid relocation to this utopia deter dinghies?
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  1432. ​@user-jf8ve7dy9r no, he should not. If we don't give everyone a fair trail we have no right to call them guilty That means everyone gets a lawyer. We don't have a civilised legal system if we don't have legal representation for everyone
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  1433.  @kimhaslam664  early 40s
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  1434.  @twisteddancer7773  are you saying that once you're the minority on something, you'll quietly accept the consensus?
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  1435. The French ex-PM is right wing, and RN are more right wing than Barnier What labels would you prefer, if we can't call Barnier right, and RN far-right?
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  1436. Yep. The shareholder Christmas must be protected In his world posties don't get to have Christmas 🙁
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  1437. ​ @jamescain707  and that's a general measure of inflation. If we had one that just measured basic essentials, like food, that inflation is somewhere between 20% and 50% Things are broken, and it's really hurting people
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  1438. Serious answer? Truss will tank the economy quickly, Reeves is going for slow, managed decline
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  1439.  @markthomas919  Raab can make a law that Raab gets a unicorn. He can get the party to get behind the bill so it passes Guess what? Still no unicorn
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  1440. Labour will be better - every Labour government has been better than the Tory alternative!
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  1441. ​ @kevinsyd2012 we could tax people in equity if they can't pay in cash Then we'll collectively own a bunch of assets if we don't get the cash. Either we have money to pay for services, or we have assets to make money and pay for services Either way services get paid for 🙂
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  1442.  @أفلاكالأفكار  A lot of UK businesses miss having continent-scale shared regulations and customs standards and where else could we set continent-scale policy, other than a continent-scale parliament?
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  1443. I also don't remember any concerns from the Tories when they won an 80 seat majority 🤔
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  1444.  @adenwellsmith6908  consent is a good principle, but nuanced. For things like taxes, I am happy for it to be implied concent rather than explicit
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  1445. ​ @PiperStart  Women and workers fought the establishment that was denying them their rights. These thugs are just terrorising the powerless It's a very different dynamic 🙁
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  1446. CPTPP referendum now!
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  1447. Lots of other people noticed, so I think we can safely assume someone in Labour noticed too However, it's a credible cover story for the change between pre-election campaign and post-election policy
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  1448. Even if you take the most cynical view of human nature, self-serving politicians will do good for the people if they are dependent on grassroots support rather than big donations Don't vote for politicians who are dependent on big donors!
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  1449. The main challenge is "people getting old", and that's unavoidable
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  1450. @thomasfyfield6756  I agree - our asset bubble of an economy isn't a good idea!
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  1451. why aren't millions of French people crossing then?
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  1452. ​ @OneAndOnlyMe more effective for who, though?
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  1453. We need to remember this time,frame those Daily Mail front pages! When our children, and our children's children ask "why shouldn't we trust Tories or the Daily Mail?" - this can be our answer
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  1454. James was being unusually naive in thinking this isn't about businesses and property owners Yes, some businesses are entrepreneurial and will get out there and find new opportunities, but more of them had everything set up how they liked it, and feel entitled to keep it that way at everyone else's expense
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  1455. Governmnent should get out of the way of billionaires - that is what they really mean when they say that!
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  1456. I'd say Streeting would be more hated!
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  1457. Yet we've had more Prime Ministers than Lee has gone through parties 😳
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  1458. Economically, it's still a useful spectrum. There's too much ambiguity and confusion outside of economics for left and right to be useful terms though
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  1459. @Don Doodat and that national debt the Tories insist we need to pay off with austerity If we have more people working, that's more people sharing the debt. More people, less burden!
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  1460. I am not a fan of Starmer's "stability" - it has the same energy as an airplane captain saying "we can confirm that we are through the turbulence. We are still heading nose-first towards the ground, but there won't be anymore bumps" Just being "stable" isn't enough for the problems we face!
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  1461. Except he buggered that up, and now people are too skint to go to the pub at all 🙄
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  1462.  @terryj50  but we always had control. Freedom of Movement gives you the right to live where you want, but not an entitlement to support If we wanted to deport EU citizens who couldn't support themselves, we could. Our government didn't, but that's a Westminster issue, not a Brussels one!
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  1463. Michelle Mone and Doug Barrowman expanded their yacht fleet! If you mean what got better for us - yeah, I got nothing!
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  1464. ​@nigelsynnott7344 he is just stuffing his pockets while he can though, and will run away when it runs out And that's nothing to do with his skin colour, cos plenty of white, English born and bred Tories are doing exactly the same!
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  1465.  @niblet112  So like Norman said, bring in Proportional Representation, change the system!
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  1466.  @2msvalkyrie529  so a small elite living in opulent luxury, while the majority of the population struggles to cover the cost of living? Am I talking about North Korea, or the UK? 🤔
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  1467. @AdamTV  but that's not a problem with the theory, that's a problem with irresponsible management There's no economic model that will work if you just do all the pork barrelling and none of the responsible managing
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  1468. @RobinHarris-nf4yv  not that there isn't a connection, but that the connection isn't one to one, and what you invest the money in matters as well as how much you spend Credit card theory treats all spending equally, so if you can convince the electorate that yachts for millionaires is a status symbol that benefits the whole country, credit card theory would treat that spending just the same as building wind turbines MMT modelling reflects the different economic impacts of different spending, and explicitly gives more headroom for productive investment
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  1469. As long as he sits on the passenger side so no innocent driver gets hurt
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  1470. @1983samwise  change has to start somewhere. I think it will be slow, until things reach a tipping point and then move very quickly We just need to push to get to the tipping point
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  1471. Gordon Brown stuck to the manifesto that Labour were elected on - anyone think Sunak will actually do any leveling up?
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  1472. @Pale Rider If you are talking about EU membership, nobody makes rules for other people. Everyone sets legislation together, for all members
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  1473.  @glossypeacock7552  something I'd want to ponder - does it ever help your nation to create enemies all around? I am trying to think of a historic example of a nation that has done harm to it's neighbours and not lost out in the long run
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  1474. "Conservative really cares about education standards on strike days, but couldn't give a monkey's on any other day"
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  1475. The Democratic Rebublic of Korea says hi! (That's the dictatorship in the north, in case there's any confusion)
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  1476. and even by it's own standards, it's nonsense If a household needs something big, like a car, they use credit rather than not take that well paying job that needs a car!
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  1477. Getting Torsten Bell into a more senior position would be a decent idea, if the rest of the party don't straitjacket him into being more of the same
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  1478. Most people can move their feet and use their eyes at the same time
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  1479. Demographics are against them - young (and even not so young) people are not voting Tory. As an opposition party they could adapt and find a way to appeal to right leaning younger people As the third or fourth party, what can they offer?
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  1480. I'll give you marriage equality and foreign aid, but the living wage was just renaming the minimum wage so the Tories could pretend they introduced the idea
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  1481.  @ardent.aardvark  that's when Brexit stopped being a vague, open promise, and became a very specific thing, in black and white If you voted for the Oven Ready Deal, then you can't say "this isn't the Brexit I voted for" as that Brexit was publicly available to read, and you voted for it!
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  1482. Agreed. Pressure from inside and out. People who are members, and have a community inside the party need to keep pushing against this leadership Outside the party, we need to back the Greens where we can, the LibDems where the Greens can't cut through, and indeed back anyone else who can break up the two party system They really are openly being nothing more than controlled oposition at this point, so we need to oppose the whole two party stitch-up!
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  1483. No, you "won", you get over it!
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  1484.  @semprefidelis76  I don't think that's fair - I live in north London, where there's a pretty large jewish population, and the ones I know aren't like the Israeli representatives!
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  1485. She's already claimed that as her campaign slogan!
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  1486. Maybe conservatives need to take inspiration from history? Gay people used to be totally excluded from being able to talk openly about their lives, look at them now! Similarly look at how far racial minorities have come in moving from being excluded from mainstream platforms to being accepted in all walks of life Conservatives should learn from the examples of other marginalised groups, the roadmap is there to be open and proud about who you are!
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  1487.  @DEVOPS_R_US  That's all the same thing. If they are rich because they have a huge property portfolio, they aren't likely to make rents lower, or houses more affordable!
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  1488. Given that they're widely used outside of gender dysphoria, I think the medical community understand them and know how to prescribe them safely
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  1489.  @iLAGnDC  most EU nations have a much clearer idea who is settling, and who us just passing through. Maybe we should look at their systems and copy what they are doing?
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  1490. There's no evidence that there's more people on the spectrum, were just getting better at recognising them
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  1491. ​ @billgreen576 I'll vote Labour as the least-worst currently available, but that is short term damage limitation Things won't truly get better until we break away from the system that only offers two flavours of Thatcherism
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  1492. ​ @cujimmi  only where necessary and relevant - a medical context, for example
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  1493. Mick Lynch and the RMT say hi! Wonder who will be next? Also, so much respect to Mick Lynch for making a lot of noise and raising a lot of attention in such a calm, measured and peaceful way. This is what a gentleman and a statesman looks like, not some braying donkey with a posh accent and a blue rosette!
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  1494.  @Wendeta-hq2cp  The eec was initially set up to coordinate strategically critical resources. It was deeply political!
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  1495.  @davidedwards1336  what do you think of Liz Truss then?
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  1496. @Geffo555  That is something I fear. Labour's economic plans appear to be based on doing very little, and hoping private businesses make everything better But why would private businesses invest here when we have Ireland on one side, and the Netherlands on the other? People with more economics knowledge than me say we need a much more active approach to kickstart the UK, and Labour show every sign of being passive rather than proactive 🙁
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  1497. @Geffo555  I'm not an ideological purist, it's pragmatism. Private companies aren't investing, so we can't assume they'll suddenly throw money at the UK We need the state to invest - not out of ideological purity, but because noone else will on the scale we need
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  1498. @Geffo555  I am not a fan of the PFI model, where the public takes the risk while the private sector takes the profit If it's a genuine partnership with fair sharing of risks and rewards, then that's sound 🙂
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  1499. Tax asset wealth. Currently you get taxed less for passive income that requires no work, than you do for going out and doing something useful. The tax system is upside down!
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  1500. So apologise! Acknowledging that it happened lessens our links to historic injustice Being in denial heightens our guilt
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  1501. ​ @keithparker1346 probably less...
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  1502. There's one good reason to go to the polls when you're 20 points behind By winter 2024, they may well be 30 or 40 points behind...
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  1503. because he doesn't put himself forward. If he did, then he will succeed or fail as the public sees fit
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  1504. Nah, the reason big construction firms don't build houses we can afford is because they make more money selling houses to rich people The market won't fix that without active government intervention
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  1505.  @lamestreammedia3154  pick one. Either racism and battery acid are acceptable humour, or neither is This is why I am asking for consistency, because I hear a lot of free speech champions turn into utter snowflakes when the tables turn Personally, I think you should play the ball not the player, so both are bad, as they distract from the important matters rather than illuminate them. I can respect unPC humour, if it makes a constructive point rather than trying to score shock value points
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  1506.  @Hadlad90  So don't subsidise, price cap instead. If the business is profitable with the cap, and is an essential people can't do without, then capping is the right balance of everyone's interests Tories don't do balanced interests though. They only look after their chums
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  1507. @gdfggggg  this is politics of patriotism and national pride. We want people who will invest in the country, not leech all the wealth away!
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  1508. Unless Sunak himself goes, is there anyone notable enough still standing?
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  1509. Pattern recognition in images is really good now - there's definitely a role for specialised, narrow AI in that kind of area The more broad magic-bullet AI Streeting seems to be implying is not so grand, though...
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  1510. This is definitely a "whoever wins, we all lose" scenario!
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  1511. ​@jjefferyworboys813 no others yet this year, but he still has time!
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  1512. I am getting bored of the obsession over where facts leaked from! If nobody is disputing the fact itself, the source is pure distraction. A corrupt, malicious member of government needs to go, regardless of who blew the whistle
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  1513.  @terencemichaels  could you start them on something like Gary's channel? This could be considered documentary/analysis, and sneak past the preconception that they don't need new news as they think they've already got news covered
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  1514. Westminster doesn't fill potholes (despite Sunak's publicity stunts in his hi-vis jacket) Vote for your local councillor who will care most about potholes and bin collections Westminster is about national issues, such as our stance on foreign affairs, so it makes sense use your Westminster vote for international issues rather than potholes
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  1515.  @PFB-yo6wi  If I see a better plan going, I am there, but I'm also not going to let perfect be the enemy of better in the meanwhile
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  1516.  @wessexdruid7598  the answer is over 30%, if you're comparing to what doctors are asking for. 35% is entirely sensible as a starting point for pay negotiation, when the prople you're negotiating with got similar!
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  1517. Get rid of the Tories and we can look after both. The next election is a far more important choice than the one you are presenting!
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  1518. @Gary H  I will always dispute the 50 year estimate. Postwar Germany didn't need 50 years. Can't see why we'll need more time, when we are recovering from a less grim mistake
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  1519. Given that Thatcher's legacy is literal sewage, why should anyone celebrate her legacy?
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  1520. Also lack of council houses
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  1521. ​ @TBakerXD would that be the member of staff who's house was covered by the bank of mum and dad? I could live well in London on 30k if someone else sorted out my home!
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  1522.  @paulyflyer8154  well, I'd rather we have more people who love the country enough to literally cross seas to get here, and less of the entitled mingefarts who expect silver spoons just cos they talk posh!
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  1523. ​ @alfonsohorcajada4399  What's Rwanda done to deserve her ?
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  1524.  @tonygange7636  millions? Citation needed!
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  1525. ​​ @mcfcguvnors I hope Labour prove me wrong, but it looks like they are just another party who serve their big donors more than the community 🙁
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  1526.  @adenwellsmith6908  again, that's a bad business problem, and the problem is still the same problem no matter where the workers are born Blaming migrants is scapegoating, and distracting from incompetent businesses
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  1527.  @Zalley  be curious to know your recommendation for the most objective, neutral news?
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  1528. If the core of the problem is the perceptions around migration, rather than the actual migrants, then a rebranding absolutely solves the problem
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  1529. And if it does become a revolution, it were the Tories that forced the issue! Tories: Don't you think it's disgusting asking for more money when there are people out there paid even less? RMT: Fair point. We all deserve fair pay!
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  1530. I would love to accept your challenge that the public support this! Sadly, the Tories won't call a general election 🙁
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  1531.  @hetrodoxly1203  if Brexit is good for wages, why are so many people on strike to get better pay?
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  1532. @hetrodoxly 1  The French are striking for better pensions, the UK are striking for better pay Wonder who will see success first?
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  1533.  @hetrodoxly1203  naaa, you said Brexit was good for people's wages. I reckon the EU is good for people's wages We have lots of great examples to watch - let's see what happens!
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  1534. Osborne is being consistent in policy, so why shouldn't he back Reeves when she is closer to his policies than his nominal collegues are? Policies should be more important than team colours
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  1535. ​ @RobinHarris-nf4yv we can look at which way they are travelling though, and so far it seems to be continuing down the same paths, but now walking in a "grown-up" way
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  1536.  @peterah7957  It's a tough one. I fully agree that government is necessary to make changes, but politics can't start and end there. Too many people see politics as something that happens just one day every four or five years, and Mick and Eddie are the first people in a long time to start changing that mindset on a mass scale. If there's no organising and accounting between elections, is it any wonder the government largely ignores us except for those few months leading up to election day?
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  1537. If Starmer fixes the country, will you acknowledge it?
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  1538. The country needs workers, so immigration is important, just not in the way they think it is!
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  1539.  @terryboland3816  and you probably shouldn't eat those mushrooms for breakfast
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  1540. But didn't the Tories Take Back Control in the last General Election?
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  1541. Is it even good economics? There's a strong chance history will look back and tally that the beurocracy and externalities cost more than the savings Given that "externalities" in this case is "people going to hospital with serious illness" it's also morally grim
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  1542. ​@Mikeike-fq1bcif moderate and cautious policy doesn't make life better, you can expect radical proposals to gain popularity. People won't keep tryingsomething that doesn't work
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  1543. I'm sure people would prefer a cake and ice cream diet to be health food, but that's not reality
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  1544. Isreal needs to take another look at recent events. The call for Palestinian independence didn't gain it's current profile directly from Oct 7th - the public awareness came from the Isreali overreaction to that day Isreal made Palestine a high profile issue. They don't get to bomb a city and now pretend they didn't!
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  1545. Keep working on those social skills, and one day you'll get there!
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  1546. It gives the country opportunities to prosper, and that's a rising tide that can benefit everyone, with a suitable government No nation has been successful by being insular, and the only possible exceptions are countries large enough to almost be a continent by themselves. Even then, they do better with international links than by being isolationist
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  1547. ​ @curiositycloset2359 Labour can be quite bad, but they are not as bad. There's definitely a difference!
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  1548. I know the real reason the Tories don't like the Stormont brake. It gives the people of Northern Ireland more power than Westminster has
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  1549.  @swaggery  it's a big stick, but it's not bigger than everyone else's put together
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  1550.  @banksarenotyourfriends  glad you're reminding everyone that unions are democratic, because that is very important May I add, that the vote for strike action is held to higher standards than the vote for Tory party leader? (ie the vote for our prime minister) We put tighter expectations on strike action than we do on a vote for our Prime Minister. How daft is that!
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  1551. Celebrate being the exception, as sadly a majority of people your age have been Tory loyalists
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  1552. Often in hotels owned by Tory donors 🤔
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  1553. The problem for the Tories is that while they would love to be London Mayor, they also want to keep being Tories in a city that doesn't like Tories They can't win without changing, but if the London candidate changes enough to win, they will alienate themselves from the national party Sucks to be them 😋
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  1554.  @oneoflokis  He just came through on nationalisation 😁
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  1555. ​ @bowantoia8536  nationalisation improves efficiency, as it cuts a layer of management and saves on shareholder dividends 😁
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  1556. Unlike VIP Lane PPE, the workers actually work 😝
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  1557. Can you not flip that around? First they told me I had to breathe their smoke...
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  1558. ​ @MCDONALD6969 in 2000, about 15% of the population was of retirement age. It's now around 20% and still climbing There's your reduction in GDP per capita
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  1559. Not third world, but the UK is now behind countries like Bulgaria, which we would have arrogantly dismissed as eastern european backwater countries
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  1560. @genovayork2468  why not? The analogy is fair - establishment leader who preferred appeasing the far right rather than accept even the tiniest nugget of socialism If history repeats itself, don't say nobody saw it coming
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  1561. and if we do need to take over pensions to stop old people starving, pay the pensions - no need to bail out the whole rotting mess
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  1562. @D J  sorry, can't see it. This is an age old philosophical dilemma, and I draw the line for one individual's freedom when it starts to restrict the freedom of others in a way that isn't mutual and universal Seems I am far from alone in putting the line here!
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  1563. ​ @therealrobertbirchall sadly what's happened is most of the Murdoch children distanced themselves from the family empire, leaving just Lachlan, who is as bad or worse than Rupert, as uncontested heir
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  1564. ​ @lestrem11  so vote Green so we can tax Streeting's CEO chums 🙂
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  1565. @TheCrimsonAvenger  I agree his business dealings are dodgy, but I doubt he was doing any of that today. Strictly handshakes and polite smiles here
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  1566.  @charlievarley  yep. The first post-Brexit generation are already here, and they aren't impressed with what they're getting!
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  1567.  @plugsocket9432  If you want people to take responsibility, let's have an election See what the will of today's people is, not the will of the previous decade 🙂
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  1568.  @chrisj9700  complete nonsense - if an Irish citizen wants to move to France or Germany they have to register, and show they have the means to support themselves. In your analogy, it's a hotel that gives a room to anyone who can afford it, and follows the booking process Not a free-for-all!
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  1569.  @dominicbritt  exactly as you said. Anything beyond the next election may as well be the next millennium as far as Westmister politics is concerned. If it distracts from winning the next election it's off the table
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  1570. Taxes do - if you need to pay tax, then the currency you need to pay those taxes has value
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  1571. Far from a beginning - the cracks have been there for years, maybe decades What's changed is they've got too big to be wallpapered over, and even casual followers of politics are starting to see them now!
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  1572. If we let embassies accept applications,and built centres where there are large numbers of asylum seekers, the boats would stop overnight
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  1573. @stevenvater8720  there are no socialist money men. Any socialist efforts are funded by grassroots collective fundraising
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  1574. @stevenvater8720  so billionaires are secretly funding the groups who are arguing that billionaires shouldn't exist? That's an interesting take - why would billionaires do that?
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  1575. ​@chrislambe400 he tried but nobody wanted to take him in
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  1576. @Garry Wynne  you'll always get a few, so you need to make it hard for them. The EU is one of the strongest democratic structures for resisting corruption. I think that's why certain elements pumped so much money into the Brexit campaign - they couldn't corrupt the EU, so they wanted out instead
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  1577. When I take a break from GBNews I never hear any of it!
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  1578. Can't be any worse than where we are now!
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  1579. The big question to ask - which puts patients most at risk, a few days of carefully planned strike action, or a catastrophic failure to recruit and retain doctors and nurses?
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  1580. It's not where people live, it's what they own. Will people sell up to avoid taxes? If the people who own (abuse?) the water companies want to quit holding those assets, that's fine by me!
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  1581. ​ @ftumschk or maybe happy pensioners in Spain on one side, and cold, miserable pensioners on the other Labelled "Freedom of Movement", and "Leaving the EU"
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  1582. only if you ignore the last decade of below inflation pay
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  1583. It's sad we're talking about making pensioners poorer. It's equally sad that we're not asking why people in work are getting poorer too
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  1584. He keeps promising to leave, but that promise is about as likely as every other promise he's made 🙁
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  1585. I would, but it's a really bad time to need a stomach pump and treatment for liver failure right now...
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  1586. @BroFromBrum  to answer the last bit, I object to talk of privatisation, because 90% of advocates aren't trying to solve real problems. The NHS is underfunded, and has too much profit-driven subcontracting that prioritises dividends over patients If you don't look at the problems, then either you're misguided, or have an ulterior motive that isn't about better patient care
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  1587. Worse than gambling - shareholders have influence. They chose this, and now it's time they face the consequences of their choices
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  1588.  @davidmurrell5143  but what's left wing about austerity and boosting the private sector? Left wing isn't just a vibe, you have to have policies
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  1589.  @joekavanagh7171  ...and in the case of the NHS, we need more people to work there, too!
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  1590. @ashley W  There is always another option! If there's money to funnel to private companies, then there's money we can spend on a public NHS instead
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  1591.  @ashleyw6728  then we need someone else in government, who will!
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  1592. At least when they are messing around with distractions like this they aren't trashing people's rights or suppressing people's votes
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  1593.  @hoxtondave9619  I could give you the detailed version with international comparisons and adjustments for inflation and all the rest, but I doubt you'd give me time of day So instead, just look at your next gas and electric bill and tell me we are doing OK. Then Google France's energy policy right now!
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  1594. I occasionally check in on GBNews to see what they are up to. It's bizarre world in there Their big worry was... that UK politics is becoming divided and polarised. They said this with a totally straight face and zero self reflection 🙄
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  1595. ​ @JH-lf4ql it will do for the next 4-5 years, but we need to find a better plan for the election after that!
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  1596. So you think it's OK to question the identity of trans people? Rishi's been asking for months. Surely he should have found an answer by now...
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  1597. Won't be me shooting that down, spot on!
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  1598. Have you tried inverting the question, and asking him who he would fear in government? Could be interesting 🙂
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  1599. @Twisted Dancer 777  You seem to be describing the Tory master"plan"...
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  1600.  @laurieryoung  don't forget Tofu! The nations problems are definitely all caused by Tofu 🤪
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  1601. That's unfair! Starmer compared to Cameron though... 🤔
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  1602.  @nameisamine  The right wing culture vandals wreck everything though. If someone finds a new word they'll just wreck that too May as well stand up for the ones we already have 🙂
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  1603. ​ @stanleyshannon4408  oh, the violence! What was it? Did someone politely ask you to act with a bit of dignity and respect? How shocking 🙄
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  1604. It's been falling for years, but it plummeted within minutes of the Kamikwasi Special Financial Operation. The markets spoke, and they were not impressed by what he said
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  1605. I have friends who have been in similar positions - UK beurocracy is infamously complex and slow, and a shocking embarrassment in a supposedly modern country Bet chums of the government don't have the same issue though!
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  1606.  @TheAtheist22  I am not a teacher, but I have two in my family. I shall pass on your 'advice', but I suspect I'll be shadowbanned if I post their replies!
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  1607. @TheAtheist  why can't we have better minimum wage, better qualified professional wages and more unionisation? I see no conflict there, as long as we accept that some companies will have to be merely "very profitable" rather than "extremely profitable"!
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  1608. @TheAtheist  you're trying to paint teachers as this overpaid burden on society I wanted to highlight what an overpaid burden to society actually looks like!
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  1609. What is the "trans agenda"?
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  1610.  @zippy_uk1046  you misunderstand - social use isn't a number at all But it's like "health" - you can't count it, but it's important
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  1611. Jamie Driscoll did, and I support him! Hope he wins 🙂
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  1612. Liz Truss will grow the economy? That's not what happened!
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  1613.  @jonathansimmons5353  There's a question here though - where are they headed? Organisations like ASEAN, RCEP and CPTPP all have greater economic integration in mind, and a single currency has been suggested (although a long way from being implemented) The direction of Asia is towards an EU-like structure. They just aren't as far along yet
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  1614. Inflation is exactly the key here - if Trump does what he's talking about, inflation in the USA is going to rocket, especially if BRICS decide it is time to try and dislodge the Dollar as the prime international reserve currency
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  1615. Smash the Tories
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  1616. ​ @timwoodger7896  you can if you vote Green
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  1617. Kier Starmer is following Blair, and being Americas loyal poodle on international policy I know I don't want to be Americas poodle, and I am not alone on that!
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  1618. Wierd how Lowe doesn't mention rich white men once, even though that's the demographic that has the majority of these criminals Is he deflecting and covering for someone? Just asking questions!
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  1619. Why don't we ever look at executive pay and capital gains when we're worried about inflation? There's a way to tackle inflation without leaving people cold and hungry!
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  1620. ​ @stephfoxwell4620  I would rather have a Muslim neighbour than someone from the "legitimate" concerns crowd
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  1621.  @sciencefliestothemoon2305  he did have to get used to it, which isn't the same thing as liking it!
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  1622.  @EmpiricalMind  we can't do much outside the EU - we are small and low on influence We will have to sit in the shadows of the big players and take what small opportunities they give us, or take opportunities to small to be worth their attention Sounds kinda grim to me, which is why I think we never should have left the EU, and should rejoin as soon as possible
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  1623.  @EmpiricalMind  "I am sure we'll survive" That's a pretty low bar. Can't imagine that working as an election campaign promise. Can you imagine? "Vote for me and we probably won't all end up dead"
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  1624.  @EmpiricalMind  and what are they going to do that Truss hasn't already tried and failed with?
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  1625. He used to do people moaning about dodgy parking tickets once upon a time. Can you imagine that being the biggest burning issue of the day? It sounds like bliss 😌
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  1626.  @andrewdobson813  for what it's worth, the conditions for an all Ireland referedum are already laid out, and that's entirely independent of us being EU members or not
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  1627. ​ @Roar1987  I would be happy with that, but it's a very theoretical question, as the US economy is a horrorshow for all but the 0.1% at the top. Definitely not something I'd want to join!
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  1628.  @wilfred-wils  🙄
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  1629.  @CatfoxGO  Don't joke like that, there are people here who will read that, nod and applaud 😳
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  1630. @thomashardy7961  get the Green party into government and we will get it back 🙂
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  1631.  @lestrem11  there's a reason I vote Green 🙂
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  1632. but that is what Bob is doing, by oversimplifying the whole tax system down to just income tax
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  1633.  @TheOutsider840  That is a fair point! I do suspect that France and Spain were making it about UK pensioners more often than we'd make it about French or Spanish ones though!
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  1634. ​ @petertyrrell1847  I don't see how carrying a sword for a bit means you're any good at debate!
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  1635. ​ @neilgodwin6531 ceremonial elected president FTW!
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  1636. This was the quiet bit shouted out loud!
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  1637. I've not seen any evidence of two-tier policing. It's just different consequences for different actions, and some people have the delusion that they are exempt from consequences
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  1638.  @DoggleBird  how about picking your strongest case that shows it was who they are that decided consequences, not just what they did?
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  1639.  @steveosborne2297  higher capital gains
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  1640.  @nkt1  Maybe we'll come out of this with a better understanding of how modern geopolitics and economics work (or at least an appreciation that despite their Eton educations, the Tories don't have a clue how they work) It might end up being an expensive lesson, but it's better than nothing!
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  1641. @countryman5329  which party is that? All I see is various rich private school types with different coloured rosettes
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  1642.  @duggdog9102  no, we fiscally expand to build infrastructure - that improves the economy, and gives us money to clear debts We can also tax billionaires to ease the public finances. The promise was we let them get rich, and then they invest and it trickles down. That hasn't worked, so let's try taxing them instead
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  1643. You're arguing into the void, as nobody here suggested that
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  1644. "I just want everyone to live their own lives quietly, and I'll call a national radio station to tell everyone why I think this" 🤔
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  1645. You volunteering?
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  1646. ​ @S-North but reform want to squeeze government budgets too, how will that help?
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  1647. ​ @the-1008-r4m the polls are favourable for Labour, but not for Starmer himself!
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  1648. I'll be fair and flexible. I'll let them round up the estimate of my worth if we can round their estimate up too!
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  1649. National rail ran on a fraction of the budget that the private operators get If national rail had the money the government pumps into the private operators, it would be best in the world!
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  1650.  @hughshepherd6596  NR was given a shoestring budget, and ran a shoestring service, that's just common sense It's the increased budget that improved the railways, not the privatisation. All that adds is extra beurocracy for managing the franchises, and extra costs servicing the dividend payments
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  1651. Let's look at that productivity graph - clearly shows austerity kills productivity Yet the Tories want to try austerity to fix low productivity 🤔
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  1652. ​ @richardgallagher4880 why do you think entitled Etonians are on your side, when all you share is a vaguely similar skin tone?
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  1653. ​ @Truth_above_everything so how did Trussonomics do when tested in reality?
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  1654.  @chatham43  so far it's sticks and bricks, let's hope it doesn't escalate!
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  1655. I'll believe that once they nationalise the electricity grid
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  1656. @Famalam  how does it not make a difference? Drinking Whisky in prohibition America is different to drinking Whisky after prohibition ended Common sense, isn't it?
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  1657. Teaching kids that dumb rules need questioning, and that no authority figure is infallible is a valuable lesson 🙂
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  1658. No taxation without representation though. It's a long standing and very important principle
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  1659.  @nathanfurnival8724  Tory greed!
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  1660.  @alanhat5252  Spread the word about alternatives? Joe makes it easy - come for the funny music videos, stay for the commentary and insight 😁
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  1661. Yes, like that - but even more so
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  1662. So far, the technocrats are doing a better job than the populists. The EU mainly concerns itself with economics and trade - attention to detail and statistics is a very good thing in that field
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  1663. There were two possible causes of our weak economy. One was the EU, the other was the Tories We got rid of the wrong one
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  1664.  @harryboy3305  the rail bosses are paid well. If they are not competent, give someone else a chance to fix the problems Greed, greed, greed ruining the country
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  1665.  Trixie K  are you worried about what the Tories are doing to pensions?
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  1666.  @johnmaguire2185  but we definitely want continent sized free trade, because it's a win for everyone Continent sized free trade means continent sized regulations. Who else could decide continent sized regulations other than a continent-wide democratic parliament?
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  1667. @J H  do you care about the people, or the flag?
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  1668. Um, how to you determine that they "have no right to be here" if you don't finish doing the "petty legal challenges"?
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  1669.  @antonycharnock2993  kids take a long time to grow up - you can be doing OK when they're born, and be struggling a few years later Do you want to limit families to people who are 100% sure they'll be financially secure for over a decade? Because that's not many of us, if we're truthful with ourselves
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  1670. Back to the Victorian era, as far as I can tell...
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  1671. ​ @TheOutsider840  your values and ambitions might say you can fly if you flap your arms hard enough, but the rocks at the bottom of the cliff won't act any different, no matter how strongly you believe
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  1672. ​ @N1NJAKIDD  I would like to know what hard work these people actually do...
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  1673. You'd assume taking on the Conservatives makes more sense. One of the strongest criticisms of the LibDems is the coalition period, and taking on the Conservatives would clearly show they aren't going there again
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  1674. ​ @Gabriel_H77 lovely dream, but until we have a fair and compassionate country, back the Unions! Right now, they are one of the few institutions actually standing up for fairness in society
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  1675.  @ronnieince4568  turns out people don't want to spend every hour of every day making someone else's life better. Share the rewards fairly, and work ethics will follow
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  1676.  @twisteddancer7773  your bar for professionalism is worryingly low
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  1677. ​ @TomMAF4 Andrew Neil in his prime, for example. Openly right wing, but would give people on the left room to make their point, and call out nonsense from people on the right
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  1678. ​ @BrianMcGuirkBMG  yep. Used to be our country and councils owned things Now we have to rent those same things, and it's a lot more costly to do so
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  1679. She wasn't lying though - it's just one of the many things on the long list of "things Liz Truss doesn't recognise"!
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  1680.  @the_real_tho4346  but we won't know until we ask! As long as we do so without arrogance and entitlement, it won't hurt to open discussions about what would be expected before we could rejoin
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  1681. She isn't left. She just about meets the bar for "liberal centrist" on a progressive day
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  1682. ​@keithparker1346 it's not over with Wes, but it makes a great first step 😁
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  1683.  @keithparker1346  and hopefully serves as an inspiration for other seats too!
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  1684. How bad do our beaches and rivers have to get before it is justified to seize the infrastructure without compensation on public health grounds?
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  1685. We couldn't save the Astoria from being demolished - looks like the "price of everything, value of nothing" mentality is creeping up on the exclusive joints, too I was tempted to indulge in shadenfreude, but honestly this slow death of culture is just shite all round 🙁
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  1686.  @nick1065  he has had Tory MPs on in the past. They all bottle out now though!
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  1687. Woohoo! The by election is back on 😁 I was all sad that we wouldn't get to see that by election happen, but Nadine (for the first and last time ever) has come to the rescue!
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  1688. So if there's nothing adult in the content, what's the difference between pre-watershed drag and Christmas panto?
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  1689. Has isolationist nationalism ever worked out for the best?
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  1690. @Jon o  you've lost me I'm afraid. I worry that all this obsessing over foreigners is a distraction to deflect from the real problems. What's going on in Sweden, Italy and Ireland?
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  1691. ​ @thlifethlife-cf1wc it hasn't ended, but even when it does it won't make things better overnight Rebuilding is always slower than burning things down 🙁
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  1692. To be fair, anyone still believing in Liz Truss after the Special Financial Operation is beyond reasoned debate Just letting them speak and documenting that people like this are still out there is all you can do
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  1693. Labour left to their own devices won't be worth much, but I do believe Labour would engage with Unions and other grassroots organisation better than the Tories ever will Vote Labour, but don't stop there. Organise elsewhere and support campaigns that advocate for the changes Labour won't make if allowed to hide unchallenged in the Westminster bubble
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  1694. Being the only Jewish state shouldn't grant you an ignore-international-law-for-free card. Criticism of their actions is entirely fair and reasonable!
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  1695.  @bobsmithy9024  the only 'nuisance' here would be on the scene footage of the police at the scene. Are you saying the police had something to hide?
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  1696. ​ @primus7776 well, I look forward to him being out of power so he can be safely ignored!
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  1697. On "the rest is Politics" Rory Stewart was saying that the right wing press aren't a problem. Alistair Campbell very strongly disagreed Rory needs to see this 🙂
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  1698. Easily one of the best on the big-name channels!
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  1699. ​@Deborah Curtis there have been quiet revolutions, and they tend to end much better than the violent, noisy ones 🙂
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  1700. Make noise, online and offline. Anywhere someone says "people want this", be the person saying "No we don't!"
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  1701. If only we had accepted the offer to set up facilities in France, we would have stopped them in France Why didn't we take up that offer?
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  1702. One of the big quirks of economics and politics is the retired. You can be the most blue-collar worker possible while you're working, but hit pension age and overnight your financial interests become a mini version of Jacob Rees Mogg's hedge fund This is who the Tories aim a lot of policy at - retired or near-retired people who emotionally think they are working class, but want policies that push dividends to investors, as that's what their pension is
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  1703. Turns out the EU was better at working out who needed it than our national government was!
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  1704.  @jasonkingshott2971  so if we are part of the Single Market, we should expect our seats at the table to decide the regulations of the Single Market?
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  1705.  @oweng7987  I find that Westminster is the worst of both worlds. It's just big enough to be remote and out of touch on local issues, but also too small to have real weight on international affairs The size of our economy is deceptive, too. Yes, a lot of money flows through this country, but a lot of it flows through global companies. It passes through our country, but it is never ours 🙁
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  1706. @Octavian Popescu  the EU are very relevant here. While they won't react to the anti strike law, if the Tories use this to force a low wage, low standards economy, the tariffs will be whacked on faster than you can say 'trade war' The EU does not mess around when you threaten the Single Market!
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  1707.  @veganpicks3510  sadly, a lot of our public sector isn't truly public anymore 🙁
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  1708. @Myrtle43  many people say Netanyahu's monstrously callous and i discriminate response has done more harm to Isreal than benefit - it has alienated allies, and radicalised enemies against it If I lived in Isreal, Netanyahu would make me feel less safe right now!
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  1709.  @jonathanbowen3640  proper investment banks may well do, but what we largely have is an Etonian chums network, who don't
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  1710. Carswell wants to try Trussonomics again. Should we trust anything he is saying here?
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  1711. @Bercilak de hautdesert I am nor seeing any entrepreneurialism or craftsmanship here - just someone who has snatched the bag of sweets and thinks giving a tiny handful to everyone else counts as 'sharing'
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  1712. ​ @chatham43 are you saying no lawyers exist outside the M25? 🤔
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  1713. GCSE History does teach you a lot about how evaluate sources for bias and framing. I can't remember many of the facts from those lessons now, but I still use the methods they gave me 🙂
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  1714. The Greens have great policies, and not just on the environment, but I just can't see them growing enough support in the next year to be a major party at the next election 🙁
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  1715. ​ @in-x-orable2769 and for the people suffering on ever growing waiting lists. For people having to choose between food and warmth. For collapsing schools. The list is tragically long
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  1716.  @sfgoddard  negative inflation is really bad - it means existing money goes even further It lets the already rich become even more powerful without any effort on their part
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  1717. ​ @neils4886  good job that doesn't happen then 🙄
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  1718.  @jamesberry5578  serious question - is a Labour government really unsettling you so much that you're disconnecting with the outside world? I am no professional, but I would in all seriousness consider counselling
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  1719.  @coinneachreid8971  if you are in Scotland then go with the SNP, absolutely! Down here, Labour are our best realistic chance for the near future, so I'll be backing them to get the Tories out
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  1720. Carbon capture and storage in action, no? It's the book burners who are adding to the carbon problem!
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  1721. Fascinating insight into your mind there. If you needed surgery, and had a choice of surgeons available, would you use a boxing match to pick your surgeon too?
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  1722. @James Hogan  we can't expect one country to look after all asylum seekers - would you argue for a system that shares asylum seekers between countries, so no one country is overwhelmed?
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  1723. They do like dressing up in army uniforms!
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  1724. Sometimes the non-answer speaks more than the honest answer 😉
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  1725. ​ @gunnargundersen3787 no great loss. We'll just replace you with someone who's proud to support the NHS with their taxes 🙂
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  1726. ​ @aaronaaronson7600 do I want a Labour government, or would I prefer Labour to the Tories? They are two very different questions!
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  1727. But we are selling the licence. Once the licence is sold we buy the oil back at global market rate. No benefits for us ordinary folk
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  1728.  @bhupindertube  we see a bit of money from the licence, but we'd see even more if we kept it nationally owned. It's classic Tory short term profiteering for a long-term loss
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  1729.  @eyezj7412  it's only taking jobs if there's a crowd of disappointed job applicants who missed out There is no crowd!
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  1730.  @JohnJohn-by6pf  but then people like their cheap strawberries. We all share a bit of the blame there
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  1731. The Tories are already blaming Labour somehow. Can you imagine the Daily Mail headlines if Starmer was actually on the picket line? It's sad that the Mail is so influential and partisan, but that's the truth of it 🙁
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  1732. @Robson Barstow  I fear we have to vote for him as he's the least-bad option. If we give the other lot another 5 years they'll destroy the Unions, the NHS and anything else that gives us reason to be hopeful
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  1733. @amanda smith  and what's your plan when you don't get fair pay?
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  1734. ​ @ukporkpie7829 interesting parallel between Sangita, and Jeremy and Diane, isn't it 🤔
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  1735. Read it properly... "the plans have been created as a ‘precaution’ and bosses currently have no intention of implementing them, according to The Telegraph"
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  1736. Blame the bosses paying illegal wages, not people trying to earn a living
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  1737. Greens and LibDems are getting a bit sick of being taken for granted though. Labour gain so much more from tactical voting than the other parties A promise to change the electoral system would fix that! The current begrudging support would be energised and enthusiastic instead
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  1738. ​ @martineyles still an improvement on the current situation, where they can only spend what Westmister allows them to tax
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  1739.  @solomonkzarka4045  if you want Conservatism, you can't vote Tory either. They don't conserve anything - sell what isn't nailed down and torch the rest 🙁
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  1740. Different flavours of institutional racism don't cancel each other out!
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  1741. I would!
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  1742. ​ @warrenchu5752 we're not taking on "unlimited" numbers. We're taking on the right amount to cover the difference between the large amount of people retiring, and the smaller group of people growing up and starting work
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  1743. @quillo2747  warehouses, deliveries and cleaning still needs to be done if the wider economy is to be successful. You might not get rich doing those jobs, but the country suffers if they're not done
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  1744. ​ @PeterMurrayComedyCam there should be, and if there isn't, we circle back to the cause of the strikes - why are we struggling to recruit and retain NHS staff?
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  1745. Yep, the exact timing was unpredictable, but experts predicted they would happen at some point. Unpreparedness was incompetence mixed with corruption
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  1746.  @JupiterThunder  👋
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  1747. We're a nation of explorers, traders and diplomats. Our language is mashed together from two different root languages, and then shared with the entire world. Our national dish changes every decade or two as we discover something new and exciting, but our national drink is undeniably Asian What culture is it that we're losing here?
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  1748.  @danskkr  if they own newspapers, he's utterly terrified of them 🙁
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  1749. ​ @ChristopherFodor so when Mogolia was more cosmopolitan it was a world power of it's day, and modern ethnostate Mongolia is largely irrelevant in modern geopolitics? I think that point works quite nicely!
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  1750. He might have to "slum" it in "regular" first class now duty on private flights is up 🤣
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  1751. Depends on the field - for example, sheep grazing can share a field with raised solar panels without any issues
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  1752. Go on then. If driverless trains were that easy they would have done it already!
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  1753. @Matthijs Lenaerts  there's also the elephant in the room, that the UK and Canada are rather different countries. Trading bulk grain shipments from the Albertan and Saskatchewan prairies is very different to selling small, specialised manufactured goods!
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  1754. Tories are bad for everyone except their Eton chums!
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  1755. Don't think that's right, Schadenfreude is enjoying other people's misfortune, and this is the opposite - seeing misfortune so dramatic that your mind struggles to accept that the suffering is real
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  1756. So Tory economics are costing ordinary people a lot of money Labour's cunning plan? More Tory austerity and privatisation. Riiight 🤔
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  1757. They have their fantasy of following in Thatcher's footsteps. Very different times now though, it's not going to play out how they are dreaming it will!
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  1758. Not lost, but it was definitely a big setback 🙁
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  1759.  @StaggerLee1468  it can be challenging, but it's the first step of opposition 🙂
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  1760. ​ @ProsecutorZekrom  I would hope it's also honest about the longer working weeks, older retirement age and higher taxes that would have to happen in a shrinking population
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  1761.  Matty Kelly  Liz is definitely worse, compared to almost anyone!
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  1762.  @Leon_George  you're right, and that makes me conflicted. Labour in now will soften the damage, so less people get hurt, but people will still get hurt and Labour will carry more blame than they deserve Is it better in the long run to let the Tories stay and take the blame? It's going to be an extremely painful lesson I fear 🙁
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  1763. He might have created the OBR, but he clearly turned a blind eye to what it's figures showed as austerity bit down...
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  1764. @Freeman Thatcher already sold off the country, and we didn't get a free holiday out of it 🙁
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  1765.  @jacobcohen9205  you say independence, I say isolation. It's a big wide world, and we just left a community that looked after each other and stood together against world powers So why? What can we now do, isolated and alone that we couldn't do inside the community? Pretty much every nation in the world is building communities and pulling together, as coordinated effort is stronger than isolation. We're the rare and unusual exception right now
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  1766. France is already housing many humanely, but a small number want to come here instead Are you saying we're less capable than France?
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  1767.  @GazC-qt6lh  it's one explanation for why the clearly more competent Rishi was ignored in favour of Liz
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  1768. ​ @JupiterThunder that's exactly what they are doing
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  1769. If nerve doesn't work, maybe they accept sovereignty?
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  1770. I am starting to fear that he's not hiding anything, and he genuinely has no depth. Shallow slogans and ever pivoting pledges is the full substance of Starmerism
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  1771. Not sure I approve of the principle "it's OK to do horrible things as long as you use moderate language when doing so"...
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  1772.  @colinb8103  Brown stuck to the manifesto the party was elected on. There wasn't this radical unmandated policy swing
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  1773.  @colinb8103  for all we know, we would have seen the same result of Blair stayed for another campaign, who knows? Point stands that Brown taking over was done with far more respect for the democratic mandate than the way Truss did
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  1774. I am glad there's a UK news org that still cares about Europe. Everyone else either ignores Europe, or has a massive and blatant negative agenda
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  1775.  @MartynThomas1  do you think the Starbucks board and shareholders will absorb the difference, or Starbucks staff and/or customers?
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  1776. I think we should follow that example and arrest all the UK politicians who have been taking money!
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  1777. as well as the historic contribution, we also have to account for a lot of asian emissions being from them manufacturing stuff we buy
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  1778. @Jonathan Gammond  becoming a completely different country sounds like a win to me!
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  1779. Derek: Of course the law matters! Also Derek: We should ignore all laws and just abandon people on random beaches 🤔
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  1780. You mean "all are equal in the eye of the law"? Yes, someone does need to remind the Met about that principle!
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  1781.  @TheAArmstrong  to be honest I was more impressed by Mcdonnel than Corbyn. He did have very credible plans for the economy, and it's a deep shame we never got to see them put into action
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  1782.  @chrisgraham6829  I am happy with the "more left than Andrew Marr" label 🙂
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  1783.  @ukkk123  some are questioning it, but not everyone will. Questioning the profiteering of private energy companies inevitably brings up the suggestion of nationalising them Certain newspapers will never run a story that risks people talking about nationalisation!
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  1784. It probably will get worse, but not because of Labour. The Tories have built the entire economy on a property bubble. It's going to be very messy when that finally pops
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  1785. Give the Greens a look. They probably won't win, but a growing Green vote sends Labour a clear message for future elections. That can influence policy better than winning a few seats
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  1786.  @stephfoxwell4620  is this a parody comment?
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  1787. @organismseven3700  so what Green policy would you consider to be Marxist?
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  1788. Taxing and regulating the City isn't the politics of envy, it's the politics of self defence We can't afford to bail out another finacial crash!
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  1789. It's all related. BodgeJob cares about himself and people who will fund his lifestyle. Everyone else is unimportant He thinks it's none of our business if he parties while the nation is lonely and isolated in lockdown He also thinks it's none of our business if he gives tax breaks to the chums who pay for his lavish lifestyle We aren't important to him, and it shows in his every word and every action
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  1790.  @johnbone2990  Australia are openly bragging about how well their recruitment campaign to attract medical staff from the UK is going
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  1791. ​ @alseeineye  lack of union power is the cause of low wages, not immigration
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  1792. Sounds like the private sector can't be trusted with caring for our citizens
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  1793. So give all of these people a pay rise! It's time to end the Austerity
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  1794. It's a fair point though, that under less sombre circumstances, I would be very interested to explore this "Shakira law" 😉
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  1795. If you want to know what "Cancel Culture" looks like, try saying even the mildest, considerate and respectful suggestion that you might prefer the UK to be a republic...
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  1796. Ah, the jug of water was on the far left of the room I take back my doubts! Marxism confirmed 😝
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  1797. One numpty does not a mob make!
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  1798. Starmer and Reeves have a quite Thatcherite aversion to applying taxes 🤔
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  1799. ​@Spartacus Forlife I miss the EU, because the deals big nations (or groups of nations) make are always better than the deals small nations get Size matters, and we might be a wonderful Island at our best, but we're never going to be a large one
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  1800.  @biocapsule7311  transparency should apply to any large donation in politics
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  1801. Truth is, landlords will spin anything into a justification for higher rent 🙄
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  1802. When you make Thatcher look moderate, you're far right
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  1803. If you're feeling nostalgic for Liz Truss, you can easily recreate the atmosphere of her premiership! Just take a big pile of your money, and set it on fire. Replay some classic Truss speeches if you want audio to go with the visual spectacle
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  1804.  @Nat19041  even the greenest newly licensed doctor started medical school seven years ago. Most have been practicing for at least a few years So most, if not all, were looking at wages 10 or more years ago when they decided to become doctors
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  1805. ​ @robertsmith9810  sadly, I lack easy access to billions of pounds of other peoples money...
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  1806.  @robertsmith9810  to be fair, I wouldn't prioritise making returns. Just being stable would be a respectable achievement against modern precedent!
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  1807. I am glad to see the end of NHS England - it was a management layer preparing the ground for privatisation All someone would need to to is stop funding NHS England through taxes, and set up an insurance department - instant management team for a privatised health care system 🙁
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  1808. Red hat woman was terrible for that - "I want to bring everyone together by making sure everyone only thinks like us" 😳
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  1809.  @SyrianArrow  there's no thinking or agency yet, even if it does seem like it, especially in short-form examples from LLMs They are only as smart as their training data though, as they're just remixing the source material. Sometimes the sampling gets very confused, and they aren't even as smart as their source material Anything needing actual agency or problem solving is still far beyond them
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  1810. ​ @diogorodrigues747 how have executive earnings changed during this period? Because in the UK, there's been a glaring discrepancy between worker pay and executive incomes Wierd how restraint isn't for everyone, eh?
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  1811.  @diogorodrigues747  oddly enough, that's exactly what UK execs claim is happening in the UK, while still taking huge dividends year on year!
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  1812.  @tomonetruth  I am saying that nurses currently pay a greater percentage of their income as tax than hedge fund managers do The current system is backwards, and hedge fund managers should pay more tax
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  1813.  @bobhill4364  I would ask if the people in her crew and running the venues have a livable wage. If they're struggling, then something is broken Swift would be popular without those crews, but can't monetise that popularity without them. They are essential to Swift being a commercial success, so deserve a decent wage
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  1814. @bobhill4364  you have picked the most volatile and high-risk professions, where careers can and do disappear almost overnight. That's a justification and counterbalance for high earning potential Should someone managing supermarkets have the same pop star earnings? They aren't risking anything close to what you would in sports or music And again, these are all team efforts with huge numbers of people behind the scenes. Give them a bit of respect and pay them properly. People are a lot less replaceable than many managers assume
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  1815. @bobhill4364  odd that you're desperate to frame this around just one pop star, but won't look at agrifood, pharma, petrochemicals or finance Does the music industry generalise to every field of human endeavour?
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  1816.  @cupguin  ao are you saying you're glad you got Boris instead?
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  1817.  @cupguin  that sounds terribly defeatist. Are you saying our only electoral choice is selecting who gets to implement the next cycle of austerity budgets?
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  1818.  @michaeldent1684  That's the Tories though, not the EU. "Taking back control" gave all the control to the people who were hogging the wealth. The fact we have less wealth now just makes the Tories even more desperate and vicious to hold onto what's left
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  1819. ​ @LexCameron I find the word that starts with B, and then roughly goes ill, lion and airs is one that often vanishes 🤔
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  1820. ​@tecums3h more daft than simply going for the Pope He tried to tell the Pope what Christianity stands for 😳
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  1821.  @barriewilliams4526  Putins got a way out still - if Nato stays out of Ukraine he can send everyone home and celebrate the win because he kept Nato away from the Russian border Right now, it's our leaders who are most likely to spark something off
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  1822. It's madness that we can do real-time video calls to the other side of the planet, but need to shove an MP on a plane to vote
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  1823.  @iankelly8666  how's small state capitalism working for us right now?
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  1824. ​@susan curtis I'll be honest and admit I'm not that interested in digging up the past, unless it's useful for moving on in future We shall have to let democracy take it's course and see what the people decide in decades to come!
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  1825. @susan curtis  not true. The war was against Nazis, not Europeans. Very few Europeans are Nazis, and not all Nazis are European We should definitely fight Nazis, wherever they are
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  1826.  @susancurtis1651  I have a slightly more nuanced take. I respect everyone's right to an opinion, but if you want to present something as fact, you should be held to a much higher standard. A lot of the talk around asylum lacks evidence, and the debate is degenerating as a result 🙁
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  1827. The newspapers have to be our fault, really If nobody trusts them but we keep giving them money, that's on us
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  1828. How can you start a business if you have no free time, or no money, but probably neither of both?
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  1829. Khan doesn't answer to Starmer, fortunately 🙂
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  1830.  @conkers66  they'll be less bad, while we try and organise something better 🙂
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  1831. He'd probably get a seat in the Lords for that
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  1832. @martinsingfield  and doing so is disruptive for both the individual and the company Wouldn't it be so much better to negotiate a settlement and avoid that disruption?
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  1833. With "online safety", I always ask the question "would you let a thirteen year old go to a nightclub?" - even if they promised to only buy soft drinks, you probably wouldn't be comfortable with this. It's an adult environment where a lot happens that isn't suitable for them to be around You should apply the same mindset to "can I post on the internet/social media"
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  1834. I will be ecstatic if the LibDems gain enough and the Tories lose enough for the LibDems to be official opposition
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  1835. ​ @lynnlovattjones4171 Blatant, yes. Open? Not so much We need to know who is making the big donations. The same should apply to donations to political lobby groups
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  1836.  @LeeCharles1993  "We are doing all we can to help people with the cost of living crisis" "There wasn't any parties" They are both as true as the other, and this is why they all have to go.
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  1837.  @truthalonetriumphs6572  Rejoin sounds like a plan 😁
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  1838. Like he said in Tunbridge Wells, the Tories are only here to make rich people's lives better!
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  1839. "We won't make your life better, but you do get to watch us make other people's life even worse" 🙁
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  1840. There's not much between Sunak and Starmer as individuals, but Starmer definitely has the better team behind him
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  1841.  @mellowado6184  as opposed to the ones who are in power, and broke the economy? If Labour are middling and average, that's a big step up!
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  1842.  @mellowado6184  not given unaffordable tax cuts to the already super-rich? That I can confidently say Labour will never do!
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  1843. ​ @danmayberry1185 simply being a billionaire doesn't cut it. You need to be a billionaire with many billionaire friends to cut through in America!
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  1844. They knew austerity is unpopular, so they relabeled it and called it "fiscal discipline" instead...
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  1845.  @clivet3252  I feel like I am missing something here. If you know they are both austerity parties, why vote for either of them?
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  1846. @clivet3252  are we looking at the same Sunak and Hunt here? While they both pass the low bar of "being smarter than Truss", they were both looking to squeeze budgets so they could cut taxes Just less recklessly than Truss did
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  1847. @clivet3252  if you prefer me to be direct, why not vote for another party, rather than those two?
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  1848.  @johnrussell3961  yep. Well paid jobs need well paid customers to maintain that cycle The only place that currently exists on any scale is the EU, hoping for better wages outside the EU is deeply unrealistic
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  1849. You do know we don't fund dependents? If someone brings their family, they have to pay for it themselves They're supertourists who spend loads of money in the UK. What's not to like about that?
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  1850.  @TheoriginalANGEK439  The problem is criminal gangs, and people dying. Proper boats solves both problems 🙂
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  1851.  @marcandsebe  If the only jobs on offer pay less than your costs, would you take them?
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  1852. As long as people like that are a minority, civilisation will survive. Leave them ranting in the corner and talk to normal people instead 🙂
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  1853. Along with everyone who laughed and cheered along
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  1854. I'll support anyone who can run the country without crashing it!
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  1855. Yep. If it is true, then the "They" in "They are strategically inept" is the Tories...
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  1856. I also want to add that the rolling stock companies are making substantial money. Definitely room there for more competition/regulation without anyone going bankrupt!
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  1857. ​@bogdiworksV2 The flaw in that plan is that other people will keep voting, and the parties with the worst take on the economy are also really good at stirring up a core of voters who respond to simple solutions So we have to keep voting for the least-worst realistic option, but that's a small job you do every 4-5 years. If you have more time, focus the rest of your time outside of the Westminster party system 🙂
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  1858. I care if someone's smoking near me and I am breathing it in. There's an argument I could be concerned as our taxes pay for the NHS, and smokers are more of a burden on the NHS than non-smokers. These are ways smokers affect me even if I don't smoke How does WFH affect other people who don't work from home?
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  1859.  @TMan786  One of the big arguments is NATO - a unified EU defence force would give European forces more weight in NATO decisions and make it less USA centric It also allows for cost savings on kit by procuring at scale, and standardises training so everyone uses the same gear. A lot of dull, sensible logistics reasons rather than the dramatic but delusionally paranoid talk of the EU trying to take over the world...
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  1860. ​@Peter-ww9bw LSE is one of the better ones, to be fair to them. It's unfair to lump them in with the Oxbridge Politics, Philosophy and Economics crowd that taught Truss etc!
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  1861. Which meaningful change has he rejected?
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  1862. @M R  thanks for the info.Still, there's never a wrong time to point out that Braverman is a terrible person, no matter who provides the cue!
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  1863. So which public service do you want to close down?
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  1864. @frankreynolds4547  he probably would be. While calling him a slimy weasel is an insult to weasels, and slime, he does have a record of actually achieving things he sets out to do!
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  1865. @Dan H  you're tangling two separate concepts. Socialism is the opposite of capitalism, and planned economy is the opposite of free market systems Socialism doesn't have to be heavily centralised, and as you point out, the evidence says it shouldn't be. Let's have lots of free market cooperatives instead!
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  1866. I live in London but my family is in the North It's broken there, too 🙁
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  1867. I guess bilionaires will always be uncomfortable with the left. To be fair, I'm uncomfortable with the ludicrous cost of living that's making them even wealthier, so that divide is hard to avoid!
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  1868. Wes Streeting uses "leftie" as a slur Tells me everything I need to know about his political leanings!
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  1869.  @SlowhandGreg  to be fair, I've never bought or sold a house, but everyone I know who has, had a lot of people involved managing the legalities. Agents and advisors are a standard part of the process, aren't they?
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  1870.  @SlowhandGreg  I did not realise it was that hands off. Basically terrifying, this is something hugely complex, that most people will do this only once, maybe a handful of times, in their life. Yet there's no guidance as standard!
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  1871. ...or he does, for a narrow and specific group of people 😡
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  1872. ​ @richardgallagher4880  we can fix things by getting rid of only a handful of people I suggest starting with the current owners of the water companies, and anyone profiting from private subcontracting in the NHS
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  1873. Bingo. People need to address the elephant in the room - if we don't have politicial parties talking about the bedrock of the left, working people, do we even have left wing politics?
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  1874.  @davelee8107  on a related subject, what are your thoughts on the Barrister strike?
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  1875.  @terrysmith5168  my point is I've said some quite colourful things in the past without being filtered If it's being caught by the filters it must be quite extreme
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  1876.  @parrotshootist3004  but Ukraine is a sunk cost that has to be paid, as not paying it is even worse We have an alternative to AI. I am all for research and academic progress, but trying to commercialise LLMs feels either premature, or an active con
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  1877. @skyblazeeterno  will that agreement involve Putin owning a big chunk of Europe's most productive farmland?
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  1878. The integrity and policies of Boris Johnson with the charisma of Theresa May 😳
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  1879. I don't know if Corbyn should join them, he seems to be doing well where he is but some kind of electoral coalition, like the NFP in France, makes a lot of sense!
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  1880.  @TheOriginalDaveJ  for fair taxes that will fund our public services, for starters 🙂
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  1881. ​ @moonlit_forest2680  squeezing kids and pensioners. Taking donations from tax dodging hedge funds. Giving more of the NHS to private subcontracting That's enough to convince me of his true nature
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  1882. The Lords could have blocked it on the grounds that it bypassed the commons, thus asserting the primacy of the commons. Add a statement making it clear they will not oppose the bill if properly debated and voted in the commons and everything's golden
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  1883.  @RichardEnglander  prices go up if you have more money budding for the same assets If you create assets with the money, you're creating assets in balance with new money This assumes that tax policy is also being used as a balance to prevent inflationary bidding behaviour on existing assets
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  1884.  @indricotherium4802  That was a spontaneous unorganised thing, but it looks like there's a lot of people with deep doubts about Starmer's Labour Can we organise to do something bigger? Would people get behind asking again about electoral reform, for instance?
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  1885. This, this and also this!
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  1886. I am not going to take lessons about "coming together" from the "no such thing as society" party 🙄
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  1887.  @JeffVader  Still worth doing though, warmer houses for less money and less Putin gas is a win no matter what a handful of activists do!
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  1888. Yeah you can - do the unglamorous jobs yourself I've been there and done that, so I am happy to have more hands on,and don't care what colour they are
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  1889. Price caps not handouts!
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  1890. Move on? Windfall tax now!
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  1891. We need to "bail" them out by taking it off their hands!
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  1892. Few thought Blair was a weak leader, and he calmly managed much bigger rebellions than this
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  1893. But rules should be crafted to help things work smoothly. This sounds like a rule intended to let a mini dictator have a power trip
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  1894. ​@degaulle30 they say Rwanda is such an amazing place, why don't they move there?
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  1895. ​ @1Mutton1  we probably should be studying Japan closely. Their economy is stagnating, and it's impacting their quality of life Want to guess why it's stagnating?
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  1896. He didn't finish the sentence, did he? Hostile environment- started under Blair, perfected by the Tories
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  1897. In any sane party, Driscoll's achievements for the Tyneside economy would qualify him to be one of the most electable candidates ever The fact he doesn't qualify for Labour is a mark of shame on Labour, not Driscoll
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  1898. It is a perfect plan, with one caveat - you need to make sure you find the perfect dictator...
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  1899. Hopefully the tighter he holds on, the more Tories he drags down with him!
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  1900. He doesn't need to apologise - he can resign instead
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  1901.  @danoneill8751  he used to work for a Trotskyist paper, and now he thinks a modest increase to capital gains is too fringe and radical. That's quite a shift!
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  1902.  @therandomoguy3809  I am refuting by agreeing? I think there's some crossed wires here...
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  1903. Parody post? Have to ask, sometimes it is hard to tell!
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  1904. But only for us. The pilot on his private jet will of course be well rested...
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  1905. Something radical? Wealth taxes 🙂
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  1906. Are these the same clever people that gave us Liz Truss?
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  1907.  @davidmonaghan26  if they keep squeezing wages people will stop... not as a boycott, they'll just be too skint for anything but the basics 🙁
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  1908. There's an argument he could have done more to reduce our exposure, but he couldn't have prevented it - only American policy could do that
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  1909. Charles doesn't negotiate. Charles hosts posh tea and biscuits after the negotiation is over!
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  1910. Coalitions beating lone parties is entirely fair though - if you're large, but not large enough to command a majority, then the coalition has a mandate that the large minority does not
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  1911. I agree on the oligarchy, but I think you're missing a detail on populism Populism is when you promise what people want to hear, but don't actually plan to deliver any of it. Every populist has failed to deliver when given the chance, and when you look at their actions in power, the failure is by design
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  1912.  @mydogeatspuke  If journalists won't do their job, then we'll have to step in when we get the chance! For someone without professional experience I'd say she did better than most supposed veteran interviewers 🙂
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  1913. BBC 'neutrality' will give a delusional fever dream the same respect and credibility as an expert opinion of proven pedigree. It's a really weird thing
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  1914.  @FarObserver  for the first term of Parliament, the Tory coalition were still benefitting from the work of Blair and Brown to build up the NHS and economy Now the Tories have ran down everything they inherited, and they are running on their own efforts. Their own efforts are not going well
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  1915. So much this. We should definitely treat people with respect if they are honest and sincere in their disagreement Actively toxic and manipulative people should be shunned until they reform their ways
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  1916. Couldn't that also be solved by legalisation and regulation? If you could grow legally, who would want to grow for the gangs?
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  1917. While I want politicians held to account, it did feel very targeted If you went through "dubious comments made my local councillors" for the big parties, the interview would have to be several hours long!
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  1918.  @romevo100  There are worse places to be poor in the world, but we are one of the worst places to be poor in Europe If you're on minimum wage and can get a job in Poland, you're better off moving to Poland. That shocked me when I found out!
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  1919. A lot of the cost of Brexit is having to have our own inspectors and regulators, who mostly confirm that what we decided in the EU still makes a lot of sense Leave means inspecting twice, at our expense!
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  1920. Absolutely! Actually, on second thoughts I may hold back on the clapping 😉
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  1921.  @johnduddy2359  I don't see any problem with PR in NI, just problems with the DUP being obstructionist. Not sure there's any electoral system that would stop the DUP being obstructionist!
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  1922.  @johnduddy2359  The DUP does seem to always have a hand in it though!
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  1923.  @johnduddy2359  Somewhat wandering from the main point though - the problems in NI are caused by the partys involved, not the PR framework they are elected with!
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  1924.  @johnduddy2359  But that would rarely if ever be the case. Labour would be partnering with the greens, or the LibDems, or even a Party nobody even notices now because they can't get a foothold under FPTP but would be viable under PR The Tories would have the LibDems and probably Reform, unless one of the other new right wing parties steals Reforms current momentum There'd be a lot less seesaw politics, so things that need some long term consistency, like the NHS, would benefit greatly!
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  1925.  @johnduddy2359  why? If Labour+Greens is enough to pass legislation, no Tory input required On the opposite end, if Tory + LibDem gets a vote over the line, no Labour input required I really can't see a parliament where Labour and Tory would need to work together!
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  1926.  @johnduddy2359  it would be debated, voted on, and if more MPs voted for than against then we go to war Just like now, but with a different mix of MPs doing the voting
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  1927.  @johnduddy2359  There was crossparty support for responses to the pandemic. Emergencies rarely get bogged down in debate, examples to the contrary are vanishingly rare! On matters like the economy, more debate is good. Such things are complicated and very prone to unintuitive side effects. Anything that pushes back against kneejerk responses is good!
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  1928.  @johnduddy2359  If that's Northern Ireland, the the unique quirks of the power sharing arrangement do add some challenges to negotiate that other parliaments don't have!
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  1929. What do we want? "Mild tinkering around the edges" When do we want it? "When the private sector wants it"
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  1930. It's probably YouTube, not Joe The YouTube stealth banhammer is ridiculously broad and catches far too many reasonable comments 🙁
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  1931. but yes, Starmer is better Which is subtly different to saying Starmer is going to be good!
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  1932. ​@DropdudeJohn but what are the Brexit opportunities, and when will anyone see them? Is there anyone alive today who can expect to see one in their lifetime?
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  1933.  @MegaKapo12  I don't think you have 50 years. Can you convince people starting their careers now to wait most of their working life before they will see the payoff from Brexit? Because if you can't, Brexit is doomed. The only question is how long will it take to sink
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  1934. We used to be rule makers, and now we aren't. Thanks, Brexit!
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  1935. You know what would get things moving? Call the biggest problems out! You almost got there on the energy thing, but tell us why it's a problem! It's easier to get people fired up if we know what we win rather than hearing vague politician words
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  1936. If you have a lot of money in the bank, and absolutely no guilt or shame, high interest rates are great for people wanting to buy repossessed houses 🙁
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  1937.  @ricado372  this is the beauty of Jamie Driscoll standing for Mayor - if he succeeds, we've sent a clear message to Starmer and the Labour leadership that there are voters out there who are sick of austerity, and we are getting ever more organised and effective If it doesn't work, it's had minimal impact on the national party - Jamie isn't setting up a rival that will split the general election vote If you don't want the Tories to win, but have concerns about Starmer's direction, this is the chance to act! Support Jamie Driscoll, with money if you can afford it, and by spreading the word. There is an alternative to austerity, and if Jamie Driscoll wins in Tyneside, Starmer might finally listen! Even if Starmer doesn't, at least my old school friends get a great Mayor 🙂
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  1938. ​@livingart2576 it does depend how people recieve money If it's a windfall, people do tend to just blow it and party, as instinctively they know it's short-term, so spend it short-term Give people a steady, long term income, and they make long term plans and invest it to improve their lives long term
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  1939. ​ @SBuk1  uno reverse - you're the fake, prove us wrong
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  1940. ​ @Buttsy1 he's not quite Mitch McConnell confused, but Trump is starting to ramble and lose the thread too The whole of American politics is starting to look like an old peoples home. It's surreal and a little scary
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  1941.  @Buttsy1  I suspect you'll just dismiss it, but he's mixing people up. Obama and Biden is a wierd mistake, but at least they're both the other team. Mixing up Haley and Pelosi is a whole different level...
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  1942. We should definitely rejoin, but we should do something about that feudal state, too!
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  1943. ​@jo because the only difference between Sunak and Truss is that Sunak is bleeding the country slowly rather than crashing it in an instant 🙁
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  1944. Bullies always cry crocodile tears when they face a real fight
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  1945.  @alexdavis1541  my reply appears to have been eaten, so I'll rephrase They can only buy so many meals, but as landlords they can buy all the houses That definitely affects everyone else!
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  1946. ​@rafezetter8003 I have been curious too, I've asked before but nobody has ever answered. Hoping this will be the time I get an answer 🙂
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  1947. Also probably a bad idea - throwing ever longer jail sentences at ever more trivial crimes because aging reactionary voters love that rhetoric Yet another Tory policy promised because it appeals to their voters, with absolutely no thought about the practical implications...
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  1948. They are happening, along with more strikes than the news is showing The establishment are trying to ignore people, and hope we go away
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  1949.  @DABEEZ737  I really want to agree with you, but I can't tell what I am agreeing with - was he going too far with Lockdowns, or not far enough in letting bodies pile up in the streets?
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  1950. He is getting all the credit he deserves!
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  1951. We should pay attention - the fact he's looking forward to "improved terms" from his point of view should worry us a lot...
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  1952.  @greenpedal370  That's what I am doing - the Rejoin movement is growing nicely
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  1953. ​ @JohnClark-ew8dh in Tory hands for now, but not for long!
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  1954. ​ @kaitlyn__L agreed. It shouldn't be allowed casually, but it absolutely should be allowed if you have the evidence to back it up
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  1955. He also holds democratic mandates sacred, but allows the DUP minority to hold the rest of Stormont hostage
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  1956.  @tjenadonn6158  Was Labour a mistype? Not sure what influence Labour had to avoid the strike happening!
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  1957. @Tom the Tories didn't stop at just two parties!
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  1958.  @davidmcculloch8490  yep. Calling them 'journalists' often stretches the definition to breaking point!
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  1959. If you've ever been snobby about people voting leave, you've made it harder for people to publicly change their minds If we want to see more people like Steve, we need to appreciate their bravery and not indulge in petty smugness. I know I've been guilty!
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  1960.  @englanduk6131  I could hardly miss it! I remember the panic buying, but once that settled down there were no more problems Then the transition period ended, and with every new customs check added things get that little bit worse. I hope things get better, I will keep an eye on things
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  1961.  @Yelluz  so you can understand why some of us are getting concerned about how Brexit is being implemented?
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  1962.  @Yelluz  why do we have to just accept the way things are? Countries like Sweden have much less of a divide between rich and poor. Why can't we copy what they are doing?
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  1963. How about in empty houses? Geniuses they are, the Tories have created a country simultaneously full of empty houses and homeless people Also we use as much land for golf as housing. So many options to fix this!
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  1964.  @jimjam6598  I do believe the Tories are going to accept your terms
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  1965. @funny  weird, isn't it? If you're in the pub after your team loses a game, you can rip into them and everyone cheers along Rip into the government for trashing the economy though...
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  1966. @Jamie Z  I am a bit confused, you like Norway, but not socialism, but Norway is pretty socialist
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  1967. There are more options than small state capitalism and centralised communism...
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  1968. Palantir are out there too - you will still have a two year wait, but Amazon will have special offers ready to help ease your symptoms...
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  1969. @dogglebird4430 but the closest they'll say to how they'd be different is "be more like Liz Truss" because that ended well...
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  1970. @dogglebird4430  you just get shell companies with one or two employees, it doesn't create jobs The countries that get productive investment, the sort that creates jobs, are countries with good infrastructure and well qualified citizens. Companies pay corporation tax if they see that it's spent on making the country productive
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  1971. Rather than pitting young against old, we should ask where all the wealth is in our supposedly wealthy country
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  1972. but if referendums are forever and you don't get to change your mind, the original referedum says we should be in Europe
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  1973. Eva nailed the Tories on Islamophobia. It's not the accusation they don't like, it's the fact it's stopping them push their other talking points in interviews If the Tories could be quietly islamophobic, that would suit them just fine...
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  1974. You can see the shadow of the purge hammer over her head 🙁
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  1975. The best counterbalance to natural monopolies is not privatisation - this just changes who extracts and exploits the monopoly! Instead, you need pluralist democracy and strong journalism. If corruption is called out by journalists, and political alternatives are available, corrupt extraction can't last long It's easier to change a democratic governance than a shareholder executive!
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  1976. If this sabotage was so widespread, you'll easily be able to point to an example of it?
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  1977.  @JayJay5244  Only Tory party rules say he's safe for one year Backbench Tory MPs set Tory party rules. The backbenches are not happy right now!
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  1978.  @mesolithicman164  well, if you're a billionaire the Tories would live to support you with more tax subsidies...
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  1979. The royals are the keystone that hold it together. If the Royal family are accepted, a lot of other people get to hide in that shadow
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  1980. @trainman665  what's the difference between re-tendering a poorly performing private contract, and sacking poorly performing management in a publicly owned network?
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  1981. ​ @trytellingthetruth.2068  They like to blame the EU, but the Tories were never going to help (unless Redcar steelworks was owned by one of their chums - then billions would have been found!)
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  1982. @Try telling the truth.  younsaid yourself that strategic exemptions are possible Did the Tories actually make any effort to secure one?
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  1983. Meanwhile, in the air transport industry, they've been working hard to create an environment of healthy challenges to authority, as they learned the hard way that letting senior pilots pull rank to avoid awkward questions from junior tower control agents lead to plane crashes Chaos is bad, but so is unquestioning obedience. A healthy balance is needed!
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  1984. Taxes are only at record highs for ordinary people. A few are enjoying very low rates!
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  1985. If the megarich stop buying all the houses, then that's a good thing 🙂
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  1986. ​ @JH-lf4ql FPTP is a broken system, but that does mean Labour can win, while Starmer personally loses It's a long shot, but if it happens, it will be hilarious!
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  1987. Bet he moans about an "EU dictatorship", while also expecting the EU to intervene and solve all our problems 🤔
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  1988. I wish Labour took more of their money from unions, and less from business It's common sense that Labour funding should come from the people who work
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  1989. The AI "revolution" is largely hype. It's only proved viable in very narrow niches, and even then requires substantial supervision, which just changes the nature of work rather than eliminates it!
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  1990. ​ @janetmalcolm6191 if only we had some kind of way for Nations to be United in some way, or perhaps a Union of Europe's countries? Then we wouldn't just be acting alone! Wouldn't that be a good idea 🤔
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  1991.  @janetjacks3406  what if it was land rent? Would that be immoral?
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  1992. Would senior members of Likud going to jail change things? 🤔
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  1993.  @glynnwright1699  We produce 51% of our own food, but not evenly across the year We are almost self sufficient in the summer, but come winter we are deeply dependent on imported food Any plan that doesn't account for wintertime is a bad plan!
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  1994. Don't tempt fate...
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  1995. We have a Left? That's news to me!
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  1996. "Outside interference", such as overseas customers buying our stuff and putting money into the UK economy? We're seeing a lot less of that...
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  1997.  @vincentblack7467  if the transport secretary changed position, Mick would have something new to say 😉
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  1998. In hindsight, wonder if the fishermen are happy with Farage, or wish they had someone like Lynch instead?
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  1999. To head off the inevitable "it's just jealousy" argument - nope, this is about competence. We've given the super rich free reign for decades now to show that they know what they are doing, and they have run the country into the floor Time to let someone else direct all that wealth, we can't afford to have billionaires in charge!
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  2000. ​ @paulaustinmurphy I agree that labels are useful, but say that trying to take the wide range of political thought and theory, and reduce that to just a 'left' bucket and a 'right' bucket is ridiculous and just causes endless confusion
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  2001. ​ @evolassunglasses4673 but it's not an oversupply if we're struggling to recruit!
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  2002. Only when they are in opposition 🤔
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  2003. ​ @glennbateman4483 and then sleepwalk through government 🙁
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  2004. Why don't the people who broke everything try being poor instead?
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  2005. It is! They should ask for matching inflation, minimum 😁
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  2006. Given that Trump is president elect, it's clear that populism isn't just noise It's a warning that the status quo is failing people, and those people are desperate for any change, even a high risk one
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  2007. ​@Paopper what if France is already full?
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  2008.  @greentroll9326  why would I have to pay anything? Let them work so they can pay their own bills
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  2009.  @steventwine8705  we are short of workers, so we are not full
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  2010.  @perfchaos  ain't that the truth!
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  2011. ​@Never repeats we would have needed a thousand different contingency plans for the thousand different versions of Brexit!
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  2012. Suella: "I am not an authoritarian fascist, and I'll ban any journalists who might say so!" 🤔
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  2013. I'll happily call that bluff! The Blair years were way better than where we are now
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  2014.  @harrysutton1322  still fancy my chances with Labour more than with the current shower!
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  2015. My guess is wages will be low, but with much better working conditions. Management would be about building a community of people who want to be part of something rather than the current model of implied threats of being sacked into skintness if you don't fall in line
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  2016. Would that be the same LBC that provides a platform for absolutely anyone to phone up and be heard on national radio?
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  2017.  @danielbanbury378  I offer a different path - vote tactically to unseat the Tories, and join in with groups like Make Votes Matter to push for PR. If the Tories keep winning other parties will never have a chance
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  2018. Well, Quadrature donated £4million, and suddenly their chair is UK climate envoy The Green Finance Institute have a little chat with Rachel Reeves, and suddenly the UK Green Investment fund stops building publicly owned energy for public benefit, and becomes a derisking hedge fund for private profit instead We see what the Labour are doing, and it isn't about our benefit
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  2019. Windfall tax, invest in wind and solar and house insulation, stop giving tax breaks to people and companies who disappear their money into tax havens rather than invest it in the nation There's a few for starters!
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  2020. Labour are on the right track. Fix the assessment process, get legitimate asylum seekers settled, get undeserving immigrants deported as soon as possible Hopefully they'll consider setting up centres overseas, so legitimate cases can travel here safely, and the rest never make it here at all
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  2021. Spot on! Socialism for the rich in action...
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  2022. There is no such thing as an asylum visa. You have to physically be in the UK to claim asylum
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  2023.  @Bevrinton  we have privatised almost everything already. Which one improved?
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  2024.  @Bevrinton  who or what did the Tories swear allegiance to? It clearly wasn't the nation or the people!
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  2025.  @clivet3252  yep, they wanted everyone focused on the very tame birthday cake, rather than the suitcases of booze that lead to no 10 getting drunkenly trashed, inside and out!
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  2026. @Richard B  some of one, some of the other. There are definitely people out there who voted Leave,but now no longer believe the promises made in 2016
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  2027. @Richard Gallagher  We had massive oil riches too! Who put them to best use, UK or Norway?
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  2028. Not much security in being isolated and untrusted
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  2029.  @nick1065  Bless! Nice try, but your whataboutery game is weak. You've got a long way to go before you'll make the cut as a GBNews presenter!
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  2030.  @jamesclarke5331  he's the best option we have for the next election. We can and should be looking for someone better, but we're not going to build enough support for them to win a general election in a year or two
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  2031. Strikes are for a day or two Resigning is forever I think they should try strikes before they have to resort to resignations. Don't you think that's preferable overall?
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  2032. If someone breaks into the private ceremony to protest,that would be wrong It's different when it's a public occasion as much about the State as it is about the individual family members. This was an institutional occasion, and the protest was directed towards the institution
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  2033. His entire plan is a post-it note, on which is written "hope the Tories implode" There is no second post-it
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  2034.  @bw6316  that wouldn't be new, MPs already get excessive pay rises. During supposed "austerity", they've gained 28% while most public sector pay went up around 12%...
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  2035. To be a global currency, you want it to be relevant to trade Adding trade barriers does the opposite 🤦‍♂️It's like Trump wants the USA to lose status and influence...
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  2036.  @JH-lf4ql  a government actually investing in ordinary people, because their support base is ordinary people, not big money donors? That kind of thing 🙂
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  2037. Labour's stance is pretty clear and simple. They don't want strikes, but since the Department for Transport isn't listening they support the rights of workers to strike If Labour were in power, they'd have found a settlement before it got to this point. straightforward, and fair to all sides!
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  2038.  @hughjohns9110  Is this the level we are arguing at? Labour's statement was clear, separately I gave reasons why I believe them. Shapps, is that you?
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  2039. It's not ordinary families outbidding each other, it's corporate portfolios like Blackrock. While we blame each other, they're buying all the houses
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  2040. @neilrmartin1984  well, that technically is a way to be equal to everyone...
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  2041. History shows differently
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  2042. Anything But Conservative?
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  2043. ​ @darthkek1953 but American GDP is a financial bubble - America doesn't make enough stuff to keep that stable Which is classic late-stage capitalism. Paper wealth, rentierism and asset bubbles
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  2044.  @abergreg  This is Singapore-on-Thames Brexit, exactly as described all along. They have been talking about doing this for many many years now!
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  2045. Sorry, got to strongly disagree about politicians being entirely above suspicion. If that's the standard, it gives gutter press rumour mongers far too much power over public life
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  2046.  @frank-r5f8j  I am sure Labour and the LibDems would be happy to appear and talk about what they'd do if they were in government. Wonder how long the Tories would allow the opposition all the airtime before they cracked?
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  2047.  @lennylaa1686  so we should aim to be full members and get our seat at the table?
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  2048. The civil service tried to warn him so they fired people until the warnings stopped Slow clap for Captain Kamikwasi...
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  2049. ​ @teabagtowers3823 but who does that model work for?
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  2050. Because there's stength in solidarity. Standing alone is much harder
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  2051. The cravenly pathetic "but your plan only covers 6 months" while the alternative plan is to do smeg all. The bias is showing!
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  2052. Maybe they should call an election so we can all find out!
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  2053. Freedom ain't much use if you're skint
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  2054. People just want to be able to afford a home and a decent quality of life That means massively raising wages, or massively reducing the costs of housing and household bills Alternatively, see what "solution" the far right offer. It will be a total con, but people who are desperate may well take that chance Is anyone in the big parties really looking at the cost of housing and household bills?
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  2055. Still sore about having spent years of your life studying an economic dogma that repeatedly fails when applied to the real world?
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  2056. But what are we fighting for? Wars always seem to come down to either an aristocrat's pride, or a billionaire's investment portfolio. Neither seem worth risking our lives for!
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  2057.  @CheesyWheelbarrow  guess General Goods is sticking their fingers in their ears and pretending the recent amazing Labour conference isn't real!
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  2058. I've done the cash run to get small change for the pub I worked for. Even "small change" is really heavy, and still represents hundreds of pounds in your hands, which is a little scary to be walking around with There's reasons small businesses are happy to wave goodbye to cash that aren't anything to do with a "globalist conspiracy"
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  2059. Show me where to push to get them gone and I'm there! Feels like nobody knows how to get rid of them though, at least not without doing even more damage than they're already doing 🙁
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  2060. or LibDem, if they are in a stronger position in your constituency!
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  2061. ​ @doubleana9184 a hotel almost always owned by their chum 🤔
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  2062. ​ @alanpage3973  The Daily Mail and it's fans are obsessed, everyone else has real problems to worry about!
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  2063. ​ @suburbanyobbo9412  yet, but they're working on it
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  2064. @Mark D  amen to that! Think I am heading the same way too 😁
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  2065. Ben Wallace did all the organising. Boris just waffled on camera
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  2066. So they are pretty sure they hate woke,but can't agree what it means Anyone else totally confused now?
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  2067. and even more people want Corbyn's policies, even if they didn't like Corbyn himself!
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  2068. and she bottled the vote, too!
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  2069.  @ProfessorTimWilson  tough one. It's not me getting bombed, so it's easy for me to say, but if we let leaders get away with atrocities, as long as they quietly fade away afterwards, what kind of precedent does that set?
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  2070. There is no fancy headline making solution It's lots of boring technical details. You sit down and talk boring technical details til it's all resolved. If there's no exciting newspaper headlines, it's probably going well
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  2071. "The value of your investment can go down as well as up" - that's what all the adverts for shares say, isn't it?
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  2072. ​ @qetoun  if they don't like it, they need to get off the fence and properly leave If they won't leave, that tells you everything you need to know about the 'wisdom' of Brexit!
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  2073. If they're struggling, they can cancel their netflix, cut down on the avocado toast, and do some extra hours in the gig economy!
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  2074. I look forward to seeing the whole party with that look on their faces!
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  2075.  @georgefrancis8602  he might be able to, but we can't. If he doesn't want to do the job, time for a general election to find someone who will!
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  2076. ​ @TheUnluckyGama with Jenrick chasing to keep up 🙁
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  2077. If you take the xenophobia out of immigration, the goal becomes simple - you support existing citizens with training to get jobs, fill any remaining gaps with immigration Anything else is putting ideology over practicality
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  2078. Even when the market grows, why would the middle class there buy something from the other side of the world, when they have so many options nearby?
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  2079. It's in the Cayman Isles
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  2080. The really short story is "we love our rich donors more than our constituents" - but they say that one really quietly!
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  2081.  @nathanfurnivalsotherbrainc2604  they talk of Royals knowing service and duty, but no monarch comes close to what you have given us all!
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  2082. What will it take for people to stop voting Tory?
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  2083. It was targeted at the retired and the nearly retired... again Both Labour and Tories are building up a future demographic that will loathe the big two - who neglected them for their entire lives
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  2084. Smaug-piling is bad though, so discouraging that is a good thing
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  2085.  @catsploitation  I agree, but it's good to emphasise healthy, bottom-up socialism, when a lot of people have a preconception that it has to be top-down, centrally planned and authoritarian
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  2086. So if people are concerned about sewage in rivers, we should use their houses as septic tanks instead? Wierd take on how society does stuff!
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  2087.  @lucyjordan3188  thanks for the civil discussion! I think the big problem is politicians across the board (and journalists too) aren't being honest about just how many people are retiring right now. If we're going to cover their jobs and let them enjoy retirement we need a lot of people coming in The fact that our "leaders" are looking for scapegoats and excuses rather than making sure we have infrastructure for both our retirees, and the new generation taking over from them (regardless of where they were born) is the heart of the problem
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  2088.  @thetruth9210  he should be free to say it, and millions should be ready to speak against it
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  2089.  @thetruth9210  let's avoid confusion then. What does he say?
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  2090. ​@juannaym8488 ideology is the tie-breaker you use when evidence is ambiguous. Unfortunately some try to use it as their first option without any evidence at all 🙁
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  2091. I suspect he's got the bully's instinct for who has power in a situation, so he won't try anything when outclassed I fear he'd be very different if he's alone in a room with a child 🙁
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  2092. They also have a very selective about which bits of Singapore they want to copy. Two can play that game - why don't we copy Singapore's widespread social housing instead of their tax regime?
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  2093. Thatcher helped write that script - let's make sure she gets credit for it!
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  2094. ​@vylbird8014 you don't need to buy a new-new car, there's plenty of good second hand cars that qualify and cost less than 10k
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  2095.  @jamespaul6315  that is why I said investigating, not charging. Maybe there is fraud, maybe there isnt But if there is fraud, don't drag innocent people down with the guilty!
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  2096. Depends how you do it. In 2009 Australia did a stimulus package that gave everyone more money, simply a $900 cheque to every citizen This proved to be much healthier for the economy than giving it to the banks!
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  2097. ​ @daveisbrill Other than the language difference, there's definitely an argument that London and Tokyo are more similar to each other than to the respective rural regions I don't know rural life well enough to compare rural UK to rural Japan, but I suspect they would have quite a lot in common if you break past the language barrier
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  2098. What do left wingers refuse to admit? Generally, we're quite open about the whole "tax the rich and nationalise our services" agenda in my experience
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  2099. Netanyahu is definitely trying to redefine it
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  2100. ​ @JH-lf4ql red are preferable to blue, but not by much Expect the NHS to get better under red, but don't expect housing to be affordable under either Thatcherite party
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  2101. Larry the cat I'm not even sure if I'm joking anymore...
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  2102.  @alanhat5252  and as an older example, Attlee did Keynesian investment while managing the debt from WW2. It can be done with the right vision and the right implementation!
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  2103. I'm not gonna stalk him to find out, but I bet he has a fancy North London home too, and won't be personally affected much by the cost of living crisis!
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  2104. I've been calling Steeting Labour's Gove for a long time - you're not the only one to notice!
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  2105. @Daniel Robinson  so what you are saying is people being underpaid is a widespread problem? If you are saying lots of people deserve better pay, I agree!
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  2106. ​ @qetoun after they wrote said rules 🤔
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  2107. ​ @TheRip72 in the super short term. Beyond that they knock the legs out of their own business
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  2108. Tory Ministers are driving this agenda
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  2109. @Twisted Dancer 777  it's not conformity, it's respect and politeness If we all managed a basic level of respect and politeness, nobody would need to fear being a minority
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  2110.  @virtualal  which areas are those? I know people who grew up in Tottenham, and they weren't pushed out - they moved out because they wanted to live somewhere nicer. That's something very different to being pushed out
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  2111. Rejoin will have to speak to the underlying concerns behind Leave in order to be successful. I see that as very fair, and totally possible
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  2112. This started months ago. The Posties didn't start this for Christmas, the owners let it drag on til Christmas
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  2113. I wouldn't go that far! Labour are definitely right of the LibDems nowadays though
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  2114.  @RealDareel  but the Tories don't talk about privatisation in the same way they don't talk about breathing - it's just a given
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  2115. but think of the paintings! Clearly the safety of paintings is more important than the safety of children 🙄
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  2116.  @Believe-you-me-  so what's the punchline?
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  2117.  @Oluinneachain  you're starting to sound a bit People's Front of Judea there! While you're arguing with the Judean People's Front, hopefully someone else is looking at sorting wages and fuel bills before next winter comes
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  2118. Though it would be amazing if Rishi did nationalise the utilities like an actual socialist would!
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  2119. It hasn't quite got there, and that required £65 billion from the Bank of England to stabilise it
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  2120. Maybe mini referred to how much money we'll have left once they're done?
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  2121. I am guessing London homes are for people who live and work in London? 🤷‍♂️
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  2122.  @chrisj9700  they had a referendum to be full members and have a seat at the table. They voted no. If you democratically choose not to be part of the EU parliament, that's a democratic choice being respected 🤷‍♂️
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  2123. Remember the Tory MP saying you can eat for 30p? Utter nonsense, but let's play along! £120 pounds is 400 30p meals. Either the windfall tax is worth doing, or Tory MPs are talking nonsense. Pick one of the above 😉
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  2124. ​@Tony Gange If a misogynist is misogynist towards you, then you must be a woman, yeah? Sometimes the bigots do help clarify complex situations!
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  2125. You know who really holds the power here? Tory voters. The more people who have been lifelong Tory voters say they are done with the party, the more they will listen I can't help with that, but if there's anyone who is/was a Tory voter, declare in every relevant forum and poll that their refusal to get a fresh mandate is not just changing your opinion for the next election, but changing your opinion for life That will get their attention if enough current Tory voters do it!
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  2126. But we didn't get a Labour government - this lot are the bysiness party!
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  2127. This was a disappointing question. What needed to be asked, is where a GP is already booked end-to-end, where is the additional capacity coming from? Although we don't need an answer. We know there's no additional anything coming from this government. They can't afford it after all those tax breaks they gave their mates...
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  2128.  @jeremykille4689  you can hold any opinion you like, but when it becomes action that affects others, they're going to respond Don't act all cute like we're just discussing ideas in a dusty library tea room. This is the future of the country!
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  2129.  @jeremykille4689  caring about stuff is a high horse? You have very low standards!
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  2130. I think legislation against hate speech is counterproductive. People have to choose to be respectful of their own free will, as coerced respect is meaningless. Equally, I have the free choice to not spend my time with hateful people, nor support such people with my money Solidarity against hate will leave hate withering away. You can't beat oppression with more oppression!
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  2131. You mean Iustin Dobre, who is being charged with violent disorder and arson?
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  2132.  @rayg7383  Getting close to 3/4 million now 😁
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  2133. ​ @peterclareburt4594 so, present ourselves as a light snack for whichever side gets to us first?
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  2134. Get yourself some big plastic garden tubs - you fill them full of soil and they give you enough space to grow most things in them They are basically semiportable raised beds
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  2135.  @adenwellsmith6908  tax is not sex 🙄 For tax, the implied consent is being in society. If you dislike society enough, you can go elsewhere. If you think relocating is too much effort, then you've made your choice I do agree that journalism in this country has a lot of room for improvement though!
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  2136. Lots have reduced a bit, but only one had a spectacular drop!
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  2137. ​ @kevingunning7569 I can see it, fits in perfectly with words like twoccing and asbos as slang
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  2138. More than that, we need to move away from the two party system. Politics as football match is a big part of the problem
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  2139. It's a valid question - I can only presume there are enough ordinary people who really love posh people - love them enough to give up their prosperity and health to make sure old Etonians don't have to give up their fancy lifestyle
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  2140.  @Jonnythebaker  if pension is not a benefit, then take it out of that 230 billion you're quoting It doesn't reflect well on you if you contradict yourself
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  2141. You don't defend heritage, you celebrate it! Tell the stories, celebrate the festivals, and get people involved. That's how you preserve heritage and culture 🙂
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  2142. @marcopolotimetraveller  I get the historic reasons why it was a good exchange token, but in the modern era of fiat currency, those reasons don't meet current requirements It's valuable because other people think it has value, rather than any utility it provides. That's an asset bubble, though admittedly a very persistent one!
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  2143. It's massively right wing! Even when they raise taxes, they do it in the most right wing way possible, hammering wage earners, but letting landlords and shareholders off lightly That's not left-wing economics!
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  2144. So, YouTube. Can I even say the name Trump, or will this get deleted, too?
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  2145. OK, all good so far. Let's see if I can make a simple, profanity-free statement like "he is terrible" Third time's the charm!
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  2146. Well, Eastenders is just constant arguments and betrayals. It's Tory Party Conference but with different accents!
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  2147. ​ @12theotherandrew but even in schools and hospitals, there's room for centralisation if done bottom up (what are most or all local leaders wanting that benefits from efficiency of scale) rather than top down (what does some ivory tower manager think local leaders need)
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  2148.  @johnou.k.3780  That's true is you only count the benefits on a financial statement, short term Long term, big mature economies benefit when their neighbours become richer because then they buy more stuff. If you look at it beyond the balance sheet for a single year, everyone wins by investing in the nations that are catching up with their neighbours
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  2149. Someone has to go first, otherwise it's Tories forever!
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  2150. Well, a U Turn is where you return to where you came from. This was a change in direction, they are now plummeting downwards
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  2151. He definitely wasn't impeccable, but definitely behaved well in the heat of the moment!
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  2152. I am not going to dismiss the idea completely, but who is going to pay for all the pensions?
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  2153. It's what Tories do. They love to pretend we're "all in it together" for the tough times and hard work, but are " 'rugged' individualists" when they justify hogging all the rewards...
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  2154.  @VoidDragon82  sadly, we might need to give it a few more months so people can really get a taste of the Tory endgame Then it's election time, for whoever is still standing ...
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  2155.  @VoidDragon82  sadly, we might need to give it a few more months so people can really get a taste of the Tory endgame Then it's election time, for whoever is still standing ...
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  2156. @Joshua Haines I am saying that Liz Truss and supporting MPs/Party Members are the biggest bad for giving bankers and hedge fund managers free reign, so getting rid of the current government is priority Once there gone, we can consider how best to finance things that need financing without enabling the casino-style finance that crashes economies
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  2157. The 'conspiracy' is people who have seen their pay fall behind the rising cost of living, are working together with other people suffering the same problem Trying to find some deeper conspiracy is pure tinfoil hat paranoia
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  2158. Houses are the strongest example. Used to be that someone with an unremarkable wage could buy a house. Now you need to be right at the high end of the wage scale to do the same Fancier TVs don't mean much if you're spending most of your wage on rent
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  2159.  @philgoddard7708  housing isn't the only measure, but it is a very good way to test how much agency you really have in society Having nice things isn't much good if they could all disappear tomorrow at your landlord's whim
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  2160. Wes Streeting needs to go, too!
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  2161. ​ @Thisisahandle701 indeed! You're not "adding value for customers" if you're just monopolising a scarce resource
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  2162. If there is work that needs doing, why not?
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  2163.  @sojounourtruth2980  what's the difference?
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  2164. and although they loaned it to us, we had to give it straight to landlords and power companies And they are who furlough was really protecting, not us!
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  2165. Give the greens a look - they don't just do environmental policies 🙂
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  2166. Winston Churchill made mistakes, then became a great leader Liz Truss became leader, then made great mistakes
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  2167. It's such a lame excuse, too. We changed Prime Minister twice in WW2, and we were the ones being bombed then, not just distant support!
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  2168.  @Purewalite  which double tax is the problem?
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  2169. ​ @timwoodger7896 haven't you heard? It's fiscal discipline now! Completely different 🤪
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  2170. What if they quit and take jobs in Australia instead? Were stuffed then!
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  2171. Not sure where the surprise came from, talk of European Federation was out in the open with the Schuman Declaration, back in 1950!
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  2172. ​ @fizywig are you a citizen who qualifies to vote in UK elections? If yes, then you are we 🙂
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  2173. The Tories are now three (and counting) factions, and none of them has enough common ground with the others to cooperate They also know none of them has the numbers to hold Parliament by themselves, leading to the current mexican standoff They can't stand each other, but can't stay standing without each other. A dilemma they thoroughly deserve!
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  2174. Let's take the politics out of this. One was people at work, far from home eating dinner in the place they'd booked for the work trip The other was people in their home town, easily able to go home, but instead getting totally smashed during lockdown That's the difference!
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  2175. @dondoodat like I said, vote for Starmer, but support people like Rayner 🙂
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  2176.  @nigelsynnott7344  skin colour was already in the debate, I just wanted to clarify that behaviour matters to me more than superficial appearances I'd go further and say if Tories want to leave of their own accord, they should go for it - few will miss them! Kind of amazed anyone wants them though...
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  2177.  @nigelsynnott7344  anyone who believes in Britain would put their money into new businesses, and create those well paid jobs Boris promised Tories just buy houses though, so nobody else can afford one, and if there's no houses left to buy, they stuff the rest of the money in overseas tax havens. It's all about what they can take out, they'll never, ever chip in
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  2178. Also, if it really bites their non-donating rivals will expand to fill the market. Those rivals will need to hire as they expand 🙂
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  2179. "I want a tolerant society where everyone listens only to us" 🙄
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  2180. Perhaps more true to say the government intervened to make it fail, rather than failed to intervene 🤔
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  2181. @RobinHarris-nf4yv  it's a bit potayto potahto Do you need taxes to spend the money, or do you need taxes to manage inflation because you spent money via deficits? Either way you spend and tax, it's just how you frame it. I do have a slight preference for the MMT framing though, as it breaks out of the unhelpful mindset that government spending is a big credit card that you can max out. That myth needs to be ended!
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  2182. @RobinHarris-nf4yv  it's a model and a metaphor, so it will always miss some nuance of reality, just like any other model However, MMT thus far explains and predicts economic behaviour better than the credit card model, so we should stop using the credit card model
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  2183. @AdamTV  but the monetarist limits on spending are just austerity. It didn't prevent crashes, it just cripples our ability to recover from them There's no hands-off solution that makes the economy work without stewardship, whatever framework you choose. At least MMT tells you what you're guarding against, and gives you a more flexible toolset for inflation. Just yanking the interest rates lever when inflation is high is naive and often hits the wrong sectors
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  2184. There is no guarantee - you have to vote carefully for who will be responsible for all that power
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  2185.  @martynblackburn9632  The budget is very average. The Tories act like it's excessive, but in truth it's distinctly middling compared to other countries. There are countries with shorter waiting times etc, and they are the countries that have higher healthcare spend. You get what you pay for! (Except America, which is this horrifying anomaly that spends vastly more per head than anyone else, but gets underwhelming performance for all that money) Where there is a funding issue is how the money is spent in the UK. There is a lot of subcontracting to private companies, and we are overdue a proper review on whether those contracts are delivering value for money! There has also been some very short sighted corner cutting, in particular teaching and training capacity, which are now starting to bite in the form of staff shortages
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  2186.  @starmersbarber  True! Is it something in the water there? Can we pipe it down to Essex and Kent?
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  2187.  @JohnSmith-ls8tk  but how? Do you just flip a coin, and then base your future political allegiances on the result?
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  2188. What, these tears? 🤣
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  2189. I thought Tories were all about people taking whatever job is available and not being snowflakes about what that job is!
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  2190. ​ @MartinMcGrath-e5l even if Gary gave away everything he has, it wouldn't even dent the problem Using his resources to build a platform will make far more difference than giving a few millions away across a multi-trillion system
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  2191.  @glbale  and a scary cherry picked fictional version of Singapore at that Note they aren't copying Singapore on policies like widespread social housing 😉
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  2192. There's room for partisan journalism as well as neutral reporting What we need is very open transparency about where the money is coming from and who calls the shots on editorial decisions!
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  2193. Yep. We really need a snappy term for "regulated but uncaptured markets", ie the sort of market they want us to think free market means, rather than the one they deliver
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  2194. Hey regions! We've given you an emissary! Aren't you excited? How about investment and money? ...... ...
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  2195. Sadly with Labour we are getting neither
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  2196. This is why we need to support candidates who aren't invested in the two party system. I just don't see any enthusiasm for change from the Labour executive
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  2197. Yep! Rich people, as a class are spectacularly bad at making productive investments. They are the worst people to give the responsibility for directing society's resources
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  2198.  @Pensandoci9  I'd go with the best one. That's unlikely to be the one being structured for dividend maximisation though!
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  2199. He's not starting the cleanup This is still the coverup!
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  2200. ​@Anonymous Illuminatus might work if you want soft fruit for sauces. Not so good if you want fruit in one piece
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  2201. ​​ @lolawilson8144 Take Afghanistan as an example. Do you expect a handful of average Afghanis to defeat the Taliban, when the US Military, the most well funded military power on the planet, could not defeat them? It is common sense to escape rather than die in a hopeless fight
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  2202. Anyone remember MySpace? If you don't, that's because Murdoch bought it, and his meddling sank it like a lesd balloon Looks like history is repeating itself with billionaires failing on the internet!
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  2203.  @borjita  We don't have a constituency representative. We have a Tory loyalist who would vote to set the constituency on fire if that's what Tory head office told them to vote for!
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  2204. I try not to be snobby, but if people vote for hedge funders and landlords, and get a government that delivers policies for hedge funders and landlords, then what do you suggest we do in future?
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  2205. @Benzknees  I am not seeing any evidence that this cycle is actually happening - all I see is consolidation and monopolisation as capital concentrates in the hands of a tiny minority
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  2206. If there are irregular arrivals from the UK, I expect France will secure it's borders, especially Calais Expect every bus and lorry to be searched, in case people are hiding on them. Yes, it will massively slow things down, but it's in the name of border security,so what can you do?
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  2207. If that was what he was saying, maybe he should lead by example and take a pay cut?
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  2208.  @Saoirse_don_Phalaistín  what if it isn't a choice? Would neurodiversity be a better example? As an example to learn from politically it's not been as strong as other campaigns, but it highlights that how you think isn't entirely a conscious choice
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  2209. I think the government and most companies want people to be living with their parents forever! How could kids get a house of their own on the sort of wages they want everyone to have?
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  2210. ​ @SaruyamaPL I don't know your grandparents, but my grandparents on both sides bought a house with the wage from factory work You can't do that now!
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  2211. ​ @paulchadwick9419  apparently a lot of people are concerned about how many refugees are coming Anyone with these concerns will want to minimise events that create refugees, surely?
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  2212. Are you getting more than 6%? If it's lower than 6% you're still losing value
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  2213.  @deemitchell9544  thing is, I can believe Starmer would be petty enough to push someone out for saying the wrong thing about his hair As opposed to transphobia, misogyny and islamophobia, which he's happy to overlook if you say nice things about him (and his hair)!
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  2214. Can we afford to keep our dependency on natural gas bought on the international market? The costs are crippling us, and we're a captive market
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  2215. Could it be he was lying? 🤔
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  2216. Beaten by lettuce
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  2217.  @christinefiedor3518  corrupt EU politicians get a seat in a jail cell Corrupt UK politicians get a seat in the House of Lords I'd say the EU has the better idea!
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  2218.  @iLAGnDC  they are passing through if they don't intend to settle in France. I am struggling at bit here, as that seemed obvious. What did I miss?
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  2219. ​@jeffsimon9594 but if you want to ask "flogged where", my answer might be unprintable!
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  2220. NHS funding is below average for a developed nation. It's definitely not overfunded!
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  2221. @billgreen576  I am with you, but it's not me you need to convince - it's people who want to vote Green, or want a strong rejoin promise. Can you convince them that they aren't being taken for granted, because a lot of people see a vote for Labour as a vote for a neverending tag team between two stale old parties That's who we and/or Starmer need to convince
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  2222.  @mr_slidey  echo Chambers are bad, but delusion and denial are worse.I have yet to see a flat earther set up a satellite network, as a quick example!
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  2223.  @undoisitreidezero5242  somewhere with similar pay, but shorter hours and less stress?
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  2224. He's trying to pin everything on Liz Truss, as that's a lot less controversial than pinning anything on Brexit
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  2225. ​@Jay Johnson indeed! Capital gains taxes should always be higher than income taxes, otherwise societal incentives are back to front - you are disincentivising productive work
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  2226.  @cujimmi  what organs are in a person's body is definitely medically important. Isn't that just common sense?
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  2227.  @Micha-qv5uf  so you prefer your politics done by unaccountable, unelected people?
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  2228. ​ @MS-ii1sv we should be able to afford both, and need to ask where the money has been going, rather than supporting ordinary people
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  2229.  @MS-ii1sv  each to their own, I'm happy with muslim neighbours, and I am glad there's no fascists here!
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  2230.  @MS-ii1sv  do you?
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  2231.  @The_Phoenix_Saga  indeed we are not, but if it works, shouldn't we take inspiration from that and use it to make life better here?
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  2232.  @nick1065  That would probably be a multigenerational project, but we have to start somewhere! Get society right where we live, then we can inspire others to do the same. If we spoke to a person in Iran and said "You should be like us" from Trump's America, or Johnsonian Britain, I imagine they'd give us some very funny looks!
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  2233.  @nick1065  not sure where you're seeing "victim" in wanting to roll up the metaphorical sleeves and get stuck into rebuilding civil society and community!
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  2234.  @anatolia0222  there's an article out there that perfectly illustrates the difference, but sadly I can't find it. It's about a golf club of the sort of £100,000 people who thought they were rich and powerful - until a Chinese oligarch bought their golf club and turned it into a playground for his oligarch chums! 100k gives you a very nice life, but ultimately you're still closer to people on minimum wage in terms or real power than you are to the truly rich
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  2235. @piccalillipit9211  I am not an economist, but I am closely following people who are. One thing that is a safe bet is power - whatever future we have, it's going to use electricity The timid hesitancy to invest in renewables and reduce our vulnerability to market spikes in oil and gas is absolutely bonkers I also reckon the AI revolution is overrated. I'm not directly working on it, but I'm adjacent enough to understand it. All the easy exciting developments are already done, so if there hasn't been a radical economic change already, there won't be one Maybe someone will discover something truly unexpected, which could upend things, that's always a possibility! But incremental advances to the current systems won't do much more than they've already done. Like I said, the easy wins are already exhausted
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  2236. @piccalillipit9211  one reassuring angle to look at is the economics of AI systems. Currently, they are pretty expensive to run, and more advanced systems are going to be even more resource intensive The human brain is incredibly efficient for the complexity it brings. If I was going to stick my neck out and make a big speculative prediction, I think the transhumanist model of tech complementing and augmenting humanity is more likely than the Skynet takeover prediction I am more concerned about the age-old problem of vested interests gatekeeping the best stuff for their humans, than AI replacing all humans
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  2237.  @chrisj9700  longer term,yes Right now though, the Tories have broken everything, and we need every able hand we can get, from wherever people are still willing to come from!
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  2238. Where was the "Putin!" concern when they put the son of a retired KGB officer in the House of Lords? 🤔
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  2239.  @Mrskateboardboy  just a bit of fun! I wanted to point out that Putin isn't exactly a moral authority right now, but didn't want to be all boring and serious about it 🙂
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  2240. At least Truss stuck to her guns, even if said guns were aimed at her own feet...
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  2241.  @cowardsallaround98  what for? Even the ludicrously antidemocatic anti protest bill doesn't ban all protest!
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  2242. If it's the square before austerity started, sign me up for square one!
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  2243. You have cause and effect back to front. Businesses left before taxes went up. Taxes are going up because the ones who can't leave have to cover the shortfall caused by the ones that relocated
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  2244.  @williamdfr1715  The old argument was "Brexit will be bad for the economy" We have moved on. Now the argument is in the present tense instead
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  2245.  @dolmen6613  I'd guess either they have family or friends here already, or they know some English, but not French
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  2246. Laurence: Stop telling us how to live our life Also Laurence: Tells trans people how they have to live their life
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  2247.  @jondarbyshire-s7k  oh no! There are people who haven't remortgaged yet, people who haven't fallen ill and experienced record waiting lists first hand yet, there's room for cost of living to get even worse Plenty of ways the public can be even more disappointed with the Tories and even more people disavow them!
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  2248. @drscopeify  I don't know the French economy as well as I know the UK one, but investment is currently terrible If the rich 'stop investing' - will we even notice? One of the best arguments for a wealth tax is it gives democratically elected representatives more control over investment, because the current model isn't providing effective investment
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  2249. There's the soft Tories, and the reckless Tories. There is a left, but it's only found on the backbenches 🙁
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  2250. ​ @lamestreammedia3154 are we allowed to make un-PC jokes or not? I can see both arguments, but would hope people can pick one position and be consistent about it
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  2251. ​@jonsimmons4150 by joining their local block - ASEAN in the Pacific, Mercosur in South America...
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  2252.  @cyrneco  I'd say it's the other way around in Italy. The fact they still decide half the parliament via FPTP skews the results and gives the right far more influence than the straight popular mandate would give them
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  2253. @cyrneco  I did not realise Italy got through so many electoral systems, thanks for giving me a heads up! Didn't Berlusconi benefit from the system with the jackpot bonus for the largest party though, which also distorts the straight popular mandate?
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  2254.  @giovannipanzeri6431  when has there been a threat to the establishment in the UK or the USA? We have the choice of the establishment that will gently keep you down, or the establishment that will crush you harshly
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  2255.  @myloarcher1373  a union is basically "take another job", but gives the employer a chance to make an offer before everyone does so
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  2256. ​ @wgblues9887 It's not justifying their actions - just pointing out that selfish, manipulative people aren't going to do these things if we take away the opportunities to exploit a flawed system
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  2257.  @wodens-hitman1552  Unite were useless, but Sharon Graham is knocking things into shape there. They've been very effective in recent years!
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  2258.  @mydogeatspuke  She gave a Tory reply all the attention it deserves
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  2259. That's an interesting take, and well argued - a genuine pleasure to read! My counter argument is that we already have a political class that like to hide away and avoid engaging with the public. Do we want to give them more excuses to only meet the public in highly controlled and stage-managed setups?
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  2260.  @Qeztotz  does this run the risk of politics becoming a competition on who can mobilse the most thugs, rather than who can bring the best policies?
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  2261. ​ @namedformars7909 even if we aim for a break-even society that doesn't grow, we'll need some immigration to balance an aging demographic Given that we need immigration, common sense says we should be trying to be a desirable option so we attract the best immigrants As it stands we're aiming to pick up the most desperate dregs that can't go anywhere else. Make that makes sense!
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  2262.  @namedformars7909  I recognise this story, I know a few talented people who looked for jobs elsewhere, rather than continue enduring the petty and expensive beurocracy of the home office!
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  2263. We need both. No amount of education and hard work will get you a house if there's people who can buy a new house every week just from passive income Maybe if we taxed unproductive wealth more, we could provide more education to productive workers 🙂
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  2264. ...and they run the IMF, don't forget the important bit 😆
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  2265. and that the feeling was very much reciprocated!
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  2266. @Richie  the bailouts were a corrupt travesty. If they need the money we should have bought them out, not given money away!
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  2267.  @tonygange7636  if you hire people to expand services, there is no pressure on services This is a cost of Tories crisis, not an immigration problem
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  2268. Yep, I am pretty sure Hunt's Black Swans are actually seagulls with black hair dye
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  2269. ​ @davidboult4143 but political alignment isn't race?
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  2270. ​ @adambrickley1119 and by "economics" we mean "price gouging and crony subsidies"
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  2271. The game is rigged, all you can do is do your best to untangle yourself from it. At the end of the day, you need food, and have to go with what you can afford!
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  2272. At least Dale managed the low hanging fruit of pointing out that Mr Office was himself working from home. Often he wouldn't even manage that much challenge!
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  2273. ​ @nicindiff Labour are dragging their feet on electoral reform too. They need reason to change, and a growing Green vote helps give Labour a reason
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  2274. ​ @markc1601  99% of daily express readers love Brexit (and 1% misclicked) Meanwhile, in the real world, Brexit is not so popular...
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  2275. Can we use clapping as a substitute for paying MP's wages? 😁
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  2276. "People expect the government to do more" Well, if the government aren't going to do anything, why are we paying your wages?
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  2277. So Reeves is completely lacking in relevant experience? Given how many previous chancellors had history degrees etc, she's keeping up a long running tradition...
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  2278. I imagine for a lot of people watching, their statement on wages and housing was as obvious and uncontroversial as saying "breathing air is good"
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  2279. A lot of that is because we have a tax code specifically designed to enable tax dodging Reform the tax code and they won't find it so easy!
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  2280. I am sure the 5 trolls who still care were happy to hear it 🤣
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  2281. I have been trying the stewardship angle. Collectively we have resources which we should use to improve society. We've tried letting the mega-rich direct those choices, and the results have been dismal. Surely it is time to give stewardship to our communities instead!
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  2282. @Joe Hatton  aren't a lot of the minimum wage jobs, the really critical ones that society depends on?
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  2283.  @imemine6494  yes. Next question!
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  2284.  @imemine6494  at the most basic, they aren't corrupt and irresponsible with taxpayers money. They still have standards and integrity. Very basic things that the Tories are utterly failing at right now!
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  2285. and we all know that's money a Tory MP could be spending on drugs instead! Get those priorities sorted out 😝
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  2286.  @georgewright9914  Sunak helped cause the crash!
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  2287. That some authority figures have serious issues, and care more about their ego than being effective!
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  2288. ​ @keithparker1346 that's assuming the Pound isn't a trash currency by that point...
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  2289. Sure, people who don't speak a word of French are from France 🙄
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  2290. Bingo! I would like to see this extended graph, too
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  2291. I know why Starmer can't table a motion - the Tory ranks will oppose it on principle Labour tabling a motion might actually extend Dorries' career!
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  2292.  @waynewanderer  How does Corbyn fit into that plan 😮
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  2293. His campaign is funded by private medical firms. Do you trust Wes Streeting with the NHS?
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  2294.  @garyfitzpatrick3562  anyone who rents or who has tried to get on the property ladder knows where the countries wealth has gone - to a handful of people with vast property portfolios
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  2295. If you must focus on migrants, make sure you include money they make for their employer, not just their take-home If they make money for the economy, that's a net positive, even if their boss takes the money home rather than the worker
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  2296.  @adenwellsmith6908  so this is a "corporations not paying enough tax" problem, not an immigration problem?
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  2297.  @Mikeyc2k6  wealth is always relative - he's certainly not struggling on minimum wage, but he's far from the sort of wealth that can be used to shape society
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  2298. There is a problem with doctors - we need to attract more of them!
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  2299. ​ @DeltaMikeTorrevieja better, yes Sadly not by much, and nowhere near better enough
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  2300. Maybe don't eat random mushrooms you found growing wild?
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  2301. Labour support is broad, but shallow Also, Kier has record breaking unpopularity for an opposition leader. Yes, even lower than Corbyn
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  2302. I am also jumping on the want a notification train
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  2303. We can't tell them what to do, but we should quarantine them as much as we can if they go that way!
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  2304. It's also utterly lacking in context - if we have thousands of job vacancies, and thousands of people arriving to fill those vacancies, that's a good thing
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  2305. When will the Democratic Unionist Party start feeling embarrassed about their refusal to participate in democracy?
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  2306. @hetrodoxly 1  you said it was good for the low paid worker drones. What else would be good, other than not being low paid any more?
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  2307.  @ameliecarre4783  got to ask! Maybe the answer will be no, but it will be a no that comes with a roadmap of how to get to yes The sooner we ask, the sooner we can start working on the requirements
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  2308. ​ @rickymort135  but it could still benefit from less private finance and subcontracting though!
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  2309. That's incompetent government, if we didn't have people coming here to work, all those same things would be broken, just in a slightly different way
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  2310.  @evolassunglasses4673  that's utter nonsense. If low wages were due to an oversupply of workers, and undersupply would cause pay rises, nurses would be on six-figure salaries by now!
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  2311. and territory. I keep hearing rumours of oil and gas in the Gaza region too
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  2312. ​ @lukemclellan2141  because it's always a "short term gain, long term pain" con for electoral purposes
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  2313. ​ @davidpowell6098 don't you have to be in government to be a contact in government though?
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  2314. I think someone already has
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  2315. ​ @JH-lf4ql what do we do if we want an end to Tory austerity, not just an end to Tory rosettes?
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  2316.  @JH-lf4ql  I wish I could share your confidence, but Reeves is talking more like Osborne than Brown, at a time when we really need a Roosevelt
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  2317.  @dobcsek  but we've left the EU now, so getting EU workers is a lot harder than it was Bit late to unscramble that egg 🙁
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  2318. No, but they are still very loyal to the path Thatcher and Reagan set us on. Brexit was a choice to be more like the US, or stay part of Europe We are indeed more like the US now
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  2319. ​ @col.hertford9855 but the Good Friday Agreement sets it's political generation at only 7 years If we take that as precedent, we're already good for another one 🙂
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  2320.  @PeerAdder  their plans are disappointing. No matter how long I wait patiently, the plan will remain disappointing. A change of direction would be fantastic, but feels unlikely, as they have committed hard to their current direction 🙁
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  2321.  @michaelcoward1902  he does have the same vibe as an arsonist talking about fire safety
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  2322. You do know that "waiting times" are better when they go down? Waiting times don't give you a prize for the highest score!
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  2323. Sometimes, not talking about politics is the only sane reaction to UK politics 🙂
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  2324. ​ @Stepbystep74 doesn't this simplify wealth taxes though? If you're claiming you have assets worth a billion when using them as collateral for a loan, then that's a valuation of a billion for your wealth tax assessment Very kind of them to simplify the paperwork for us 🙂
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  2325. ​ @honved1 I know it takes time to turn things around, but first you have to turn the wheel For all his talk of "change" in the election campaign, Starmer has done nothing but shout the same old, worn out ideas since being elected Where's the change coming from if everything is just reheated ideas that have already been tried for the last few decades?
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  2326. and if this is going to be a precedent, can MPs be tested first?
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  2327. ​ @michellebarnes227 citizens in a democratic country, exercising free speech
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  2328. ​@edwardbernthal160 also watch a bit then quit the video. Only watching the beginning lowers the channel in the recommendation algorithm. LBC management will notice that!
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  2329.  @bereal6590  I really hope Kier has his heart in the right place. There's real potential for a good cop bad cop dynamic with Labour and the Unions if the will is there
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  2330.  @Mallard942  the commission, that also consists of people appointed by national governments?
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  2331. I am with you on shareholders, but have a different angle on fiat currency. Money is a tool,and like all tools, it depends how you use it In the past, inflation and the base rate has been used to give workers a stealth pay cut. You feel like you're still well paid, maybe even got a rise, but if it doesn't keep up with costs, it's a stealth pay cut However, if you stay aware of this, and stand together to make sure wages keep up with inflation, inflation and base rate rises benefits workers. All those savings and investments? They are losing value every year. Work for a living and you can demand a fair share of today's wealth Stand firm and over time it drains the reserves of the idle rich while working people keep their fair share of the money they earn day to day Know how to use the tools available 🙂
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  2332. @jackarcher9652 I'm confused, as the mechanism for changing the leader is the same in both cases. You don't have a direct vote - you vote for the representative you want, and if enough people agree with you, your representatives have the numbers to pick the leader you want Representative democracy, not presidential!
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  2333. Penny Mordaunt still seems desperate to have a go, there should be time to squeeze in another Prime Minister before the next general election!
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  2334. ​ @johnrussell3961 problem with the service economy is we've not been paying attention to who it serves
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  2335.  @jjefferyworboys8138  I like charismatic people hosting TV shows Meanwhile, I wouldn't want Ant and Dec running the government
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  2336.  @babycharliebrown  yet she'll just nod along with a Tory deflecting and dodging questions 🤔
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  2337.  @jrobs1133  yeah, austerity is brutal too, but I don't see why we needed to leave the EU to end austerity, nor how imposing trade barriers on ourselves helps either!
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  2338. Whenever a Tory says something like this, you need to add the silent "...for us" on the end 🙁
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  2339. She may keep her job, but she won't come back. The Tories have the choice of losing with Truss as leader, or losing with someone else
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  2340. We all need to look at what Iceland did after the crash. They let banks collapse, and bailed out their citizens instead Iceland had the quickest recovery from the 2008 crash. This isn't a coincidence!
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  2341. Nobody wanted to put their name on the consequences of no lockdown and no furlough. Some are saying it now, but It's like that guy in the pub who claims he definitely would have chinned that guy if he'd been in the fight, but only ever says it after the fight is over...
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  2342. I am a Londoner now, but grew up in Tyneside. I donated 🙂
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  2343. Did you miss the fortnight of headlines over beergate? They have tried, it just didn't stick so well
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  2344. ​@neils4886 thing is, I reckon he'd have less influence with 47 MPs than he did as a "rebel" outsider. He might not have official seats, but he has hundreds of MPs dancing to his tune now
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  2345. I think Penny baggsied next go, but there should be time for everyone to have a turn!
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  2346. Porked markets?
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  2347. Gove is just as right wing as he always was - it's the rest of the party that's moved to be even more swivel-eyed extremist!
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  2348. We could tax the ultra rich
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  2349.  @bowantoia8536  I was playing on the Tories love of efficiency - so I told them how they get to be more efficient by nationalising! Think they'll take up my suggestion?
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  2350. I don't know the Birmingham independents so well, but I know tbe North London independents also had strong stances on the NHS and other public services. Even if Starmer finds the best settlement for Gaza that is conceivably possible, the campaign is organised and ready to go again on the NHS and public services 🙂
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  2351. @François Pignon Ta mate, thanks for the good wishes!
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  2352.  @MCDONALD6969  it's not the immigrants who are counted in the "per capita" bit without adding to the "GDP" bit Now, I say they have earned their retirement, but the economic fact is large numbers of retirees will reduce your GDP per capita numbers, and we need to plan for that
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  2353. There is a silver lining here - the fact they still need to deny and deflect means they haven't won Society is still holding, if only by a thread
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  2354. A perfect scenario would be "growth" that matches inflation. Feels positive, because numbers get bigger, avoids a deflationary economy ( which is bad ) but is actually stable, because when growth matches inflation, you're just standing still in a dynamic way 🙂
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  2355.  @samuelbucher5189  there's no way that banker is on the left!
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  2356. Being able to easily live in Spain when you retire? What's so awful about that?
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  2357. There is a nice pub about halfway between my house and the office 🤔😁
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  2358. ​ @imemine6494 Braverman and Starmer? No Someone like Dominic Grieve and Starmer though? That I can see
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  2359.  @imemine6494  well, Labour and Tories already team up at council level. 10 years ago I would never believe it possible in Westminster, but now? Squeeze the establishment status quo cliques of the big two parties, and who knows what could happen!
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  2360. The government has had months to settle this. Blame the government for dragging it out!
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  2361. ​ @anthonysmith8800 I am confused by all these Brexiteers who spend more time following European news than most Remain voters. It's a very curious phenomenon!
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  2362. How is it anti-democratic to want our Prime Minister to listen to his Party and the Nation?
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  2363. ​@keithparker1346 you need both. We need people with vision inspiring the journey, but you need someone more grounded planning the route We get good things when the two mindsets pull together rather than lock horns 🙂
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  2364. How do you explain Truss over on the Tory side?
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  2365.  @bob_the_bomb4508  or Coffey! This could be a long list...
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  2366. It's nothing special, it's just getting back to normal pay after over a decade of broken austerity
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  2367. Even if we run with your take, I'll take almost centre right over almost far right, any day!
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  2368. That's his job - greet international dignitaries, and summon the butler to serve posh sarnies and tea
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  2369.  @chrisj9700  exactly - FoM is a streamlined visa process, not a benefits free for all!
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  2370. ​ @Seek-Light  If I did nothing and said nothing I'd still be doing a better job than Boris!
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  2371. I think Streeting is actually worse than Starmer
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  2372. I'd also point out that if we can name Conservatives because people noticed they are toxic and dangerously incompetent, then not noticing Labour shadow ministers is a positive!
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  2373.  @lflaherty3937  to be clear, I am deeply against overcentralisation, whether through state authoritarianism or corporate monopolisation I just found it very amusing that the metaphor so strongly implies an endorsement, especially after he said he strongly prefers black coffee 😆
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  2374. Their idea of neutrality is wierd, too. They'll have an expert and a complete fruitcake "debate" an issue, and give both people equal credibility Neutrality allows you to push back on one side more than the other, if one side are stretching the facts harder than the other. You give them an equal starting point, but after that you can react to their actions
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  2375.  @brachiator1  as UKIP and the Brexit Party showed us with the Tories, thatnot how FPTP politics works. There are two big parties. You support the one closest to you and you campaign to influence them towards you Unless we have a different electoral system, that's the only way to get things done in UK politics
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  2376.  @stevenvater8720  Novara Media? Crowdfunded. Labour SCG? Member donations. Can you name a socialist media or political organisation with big money donors?
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  2377. I also find it odd that they claim to want freedom of speech, but also want to compel people to attend shows and talks they don't want to attend 🤔
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  2378. Not sure that would provide better advice on home buying though!
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  2379. It's irrational to deny, but sadly fsr from impossible 🙁 The blue is red crowd are all too common!
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  2380.  @stephenelkington4971  that only makes sense if I see myself as completely isolated from society. I am not isolated, so a functioning society is more valuable to me than a growing bank account. What use is money if I live in a gilded bunker?
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  2381.  @stephenelkington4971  Money's weird. I agree, if you don't have any, it's the most important thing in the world! Once you have enough though, more really doesn't make you much happier. In fact, too much is shown to make you paranoid and miserable. It's a very curious commodity
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  2382. This Labour will run things for the establishment, but with better scraps to keep us fed rather than usiny the big stick to knock us down
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  2383. I wonder how the DUP and TUV will respond to this. Will it force them to give up the divisive rhetoric and start making a case that appeals beyond their base, or will they double down on appealing to a now shrinking crowd of hardened followers?
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  2384. and insider tradinf is great for the insiders, unless you go too far and crash everything Then they won't be so happy any more
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  2385. The people "managing" Thames water can leave and never come back, to be honest!
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  2386.  @tt-ew7rx  That's partly because Philip May and Hugh o'Leary appear to be genuinely not particularly newsworthy
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  2387. ​ @zoedaisy1499  Nationalisation is just a business without shareholders. What productive value do shareholders have?
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  2388. @MFK  we weren't insignificant, but a lot of our influence was soft power. We had friends, and were trusted to be bridge builders in a conflicted room. The last 7 years have been undermining the very thing that gave us influence
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  2389.  @jasonkingshott2971  democracy happened?
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  2390. Can't expect a Tory government to pass rules that make it harder for Tories to be Tories If we don't want a party that are super cosy and chummy with CEOs and hedge fund managers, then we need to stop voting for that party!
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  2391.  @DavidGetling  worse than the biggest economic disaster in decades, one which was entirely self inflicted?
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  2392. My worry is how many warning signs were ignored. How many people could have been saved if those early signs were properly followed up?
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  2393. If we never remove the old, but only add, things are going to get rather crowded 😳
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  2394. But it is safe. He was moved out of the march because he wasn't capable of following the one-way system
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  2395. Does feel like there's no point objecting to the concept of ID cards, as like everyone said, they don't do anything that isn't already done The key questions are - how much will this cost to run? - who has access to the database?
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  2396. ​ @Believe-you-me- I'm not even sure that would make any difference now. Netanyahu isn't rescuing any hostages in Lebanon, is he!
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  2397. It's legitimately terrifying when you think about it - is there any organisation large enough to tackle NHS IT that _isn't _ tainted by some kind of scandal or corruption?
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  2398. @BroFromBrum  No, Italy, Spain and Portugal have very similar state managed health care systems to the NHS. New Zealand and Malta are fairly close too You can also argue there's not much difference between a state regulated non-profit Bismark style health system and the NHS - both have strong government oversight, and ultimately, what's the practical difference between a tax, and compulsory insurance?
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  2399. @BroFromBrum  Italy, Spain and Portugal are state owned and state run. I say very close, rather than identical, because there are differences - as an example, Spain is more regionally managed than nationally managed, but still state owned and state run That's what I mean by very similar. Not reg-for-reg identical, but extremely close in funding and principles
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  2400. @BroFromBrum  we need a government that isn't neglecting it's responsibility. It won't be quick, but the economy and the NHS are fixable. We just need a government that wants to fix them!
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  2401. ​ @squizza28 but what does "Hamas being destroyed" look like? Will there be a Gaza by that point?
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  2402.  @senseofthecommonman  even if Labour have gone a bit Tory Lite, that's still a step up from Ultra Tory!
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  2403. ​ @paulgibbons2320  if people vote for the party of low wages, don't blame immigration for that - Tories will squeeze wages whatever the circumstances are
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  2404. ​ @davidmurrell5143 if that still true? The left might only have 5-10 MPs in Westminster, but crisism of them from the left is pretty rare, and respectfully constructive when I do hear it
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  2405.  @davidmurrell5143  we have the Greens, who are unapologetically left wing on economics, and there's a few in Labour (but not in the cabinet) too Given the long-deserved trope about leftist infighting and purity testing, the current solidarity and support around the few we have has been amazing and deeply reassuring 🙂
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  2406. ​ @sebastiang7394 that said, snarks may interpret it as Rishi signalling where he intends to live after the election 😝
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  2407. I like Jello Biafra's answer to that question 🙂
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  2408. People had completely valid concerns, but Brexit solved none of them, it actually made most of the problems even worse 🙁
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  2409. It's very Tory legislation. They like to assume that if they pass a bill with "online safety" in the title, then magically we're now safe online 🙄
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  2410. Trickle down economics feels like back to front "research" to me They started with the answer they wanted (rich people get richer) then worked backwards to find justifications for it that sound plausible if you don't poke them too hard
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  2411. Government is democratically accountable at least. I am not claiming that building a political movement is easy, but it's clearly more accessible to average people than gaining enough shareholder influence to steer a big multinational!
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  2412.  @liveitlarge68  Austerity didn't pay off the debt - it was an utter failure! Instead we should have been taxing where there was the capacity to so, and investing in training and infrastructure. If we had done that we'd have money to pay down debt, and have the tools to hand to recover the way France and Germany are, rather than the weak stumble the Tories are giving us
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  2413.  @liveitlarge68  Can you point to any example where lower corporate tax has created jobs? All it does is enable bigger executive bonuses and dividends
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  2414.  @liveitlarge68  Singapore is an interesting case. As you note, the state is very involved in key infrastructure, with much of it state owned, and the rest tightly regulated and managed Trying to cherry pick just the corporate tax levels from this model without also implementing the tight management of key industries will be disastrous!
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  2415. ​ @chrisharris1522  Tory donors don't donate to the Tory party for policies that give ordinary people a fair chance though!
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  2416.  @ianclose123  I think people are playing devil's advocate with the older vote, but it's a fair point. If having a developing brain excludes you from voting, why shouldn't a brain long past it's peak be subject to the same principle? The real question is how do we improve political engagement across all ages though. That is a more critical issue than the difference a handful of 16 and 17 year olds will make
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  2417. Are the Woke Neo Marxists in the room with us now?
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  2418. Tankies deserve it if they are actual Tankies, but most people who throw that around have no idea what it actually means 🙄
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  2419. Our "journalists" are sponsored by billionaires We get the news the billionaires want us to hear
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  2420. Corbyn was flawed, and his flaws proved too much to gain support He manifesto was great though - someone else needs to give those policies another go!
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  2421. There's a few people like that in the comments here, too!
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  2422. ​@puffins4007 absolutely! I want a country where corrupt people get arrested I do not want a country where corrupt people get a seat in the House of Lords !
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  2423. ​ @mda5003 Gove claimed we're tired of experts I disagree, we're tired of entitled idiots without a day of real-world experience claiming they know better than people who make a living from it On that note, what business do you have experience of running?
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  2424.  @mda5003  there are no businesses that benefit from Brexit If there were, pro Brexit politicians would have showcased them by now!
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  2425.  @mda5003  there are positives, if you make them up 🙄
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  2426. ​ @epincion Osborne has commended more than just Reeves' OBR policy - he endorses her whole economic position
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  2427.  @epincion  I refer to a Times article from jan 7th this year - "Rachel Reeves for first female chancellor? George Osborne thinks so"
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  2428.  @epincion  Atlee faced a similar financial situation, and he built the NHS and rebuilt half the country. That's the sort of vision we need now, not cautious penny counting Invest to grow, and you will grow. Do nothing and you will go nowhere
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  2429. ​ @perer005 if even people who claim to support them can't be bothered to vote for them, that sounds a lot like "being unpopular" to me!
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  2430. We have the potential to be a great country The Tories are torching it 🙁
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  2431. ​@robertcottam8824 have you seen the current government?
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  2432. ​ @chrisj9700 if they don't like being responsible for so much tax, they could pay themselves a bit less, and pay everyone else a bit more
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  2433. In France there's Nouveau Front Populaire, which is a coalition across an astoundingly broad range of left wing groups, from moderate left to radical communists. They've found agreement that opposing the right is more urgent than their differences Can we find something similar in the UK before the 2028/29 election?
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  2434. I worry it will be shaky after only 5...
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  2435. It was weaselly. Sure, every country made mistakes, but not every country made them in a knowingly, deliberately corrupt way!
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  2436. Community and prosperity. I don't think there's any shortcuts we can take on this one!
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  2437.  @jamesarnold7253  Bingo! We don't lose, the dinosaurs trying to enforce this lose us - when we change jobs to work for someone sane who values getting the job done over presenteeism Happily my bosses are sane, so I can stay where I am 😄
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  2438.  @podfast2685  No right to demand, but we have a strong position from which to ask. You don't want to be the company left at the back of the queue for hiring, after all the best and brightest moved elsewhere!
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  2439. They ran the water companies down so they were failing just before they privatised them. We know where that ended! So maybe they aren't doing the same now - but it's safer to defend the NHS while we can. If we leave it too late, we get Thames Water healthcare...
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  2440. That is illegal! Maybe we should petition the government for a change in strike laws?
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  2441.  @charlievarley  you're talking about an option that doesn't exist - there are no surgeons sat waiting for patients. We can expand capacity if we invest money and attract new staff, but if we're investing, why not invest in-house?
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  2442.  @DJPaulgee1  and then people got old, and few people here want to take over those jobs
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  2443.  @DJPaulgee1  we had migrant workers til 2020. What happened to them?
    2
  2444. especially on Pride, where their job is to reassure the public that they are making Pride a safe place to be?
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  2445.  @notjustforhackers4252  I do agree with that, but also want to draw a distinction between wearing pride colours day to day, and wearing Pride colours when policing Pride and wanting to assure the public that Pride is a safe place to be. That's an important context to be aware of
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  2446. being more focused on shifting the blame than addressing the problem
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  2447. ​ @jackdubz4247 it would be glorious if he did, and it's just a pure, bridge-burning rant about how glad he is to be escaping his idiot former colleagues!
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  2448. @TheAtheist  if you think £28k to £38k is highly paid, I really don't know what to tell you! So many jobs have higher salaries than that, and that doesn't even start to crack open the can on passive wealth streams...
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  2449. I am seeing Tory decline, or slightly slower Labour decline One is preferable to the other, but neither is inspiring any hope!
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  2450. @inuwooddog3027  is it the government's role to dictate what people wear, or what they consensually do behind closed doors?
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  2451. @user-fu6pk8ky5i  but what is gender? Would you treat a super-butch but 100% biologically female human the same way as a super-femme female? Presentation matters, does it not? Can't people try and change their presentation to better fit their self image?
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  2452. Might take awhile, so we should get started as soon as possible! 🙂
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  2453. ​ @vonder7 I have one problem with your definition of socialist, but it's an important one None of the characteristics you mention as socialist are fundamentals of socialism!
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  2454.  @vonder7  sounds more than a bit like the Richard Tice misinformation definition of socialism to me
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  2455. But only if they released a picture book version with big, easy to read letters
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  2456.  @PFB-yo6wi  the correct answer is "stop selling public assets at below market value, and build more council housing"
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  2457.  @marktucker208  He's not going to vote for Liz after her little "break the unions" speech!
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  2458. ​@DavidWhiteOfFleet if your house has a leak, you call a plumber. If your computer has issues, you want an IT expert When it's something that's a medical issue, you want a doctor around. Surely something as important as your life deserves access to expert supervision?
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  2459. Labour sold off a bit of gold. The Tories sold our water and power I know which impacts me more!
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  2460. We evaluate Brexit against an easy win because an easy win is what Vote Leave promised - "we hold all the cards" and all that!
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  2461. ​@Natasha Truelove Sunak just said that being in the Single Market is the best thing in the world right now Not sure how that makes Ireland a loss for Rejoin...
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  2462. The "independent" body is only independent within parameters set by the government 🤔
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  2463.  @tjd1747  as proud citizens who love our country, we had a democratic duty to speak up and ask fellow citizens if they were sure about what they were about to do. Were we wrong to speak up?
    2
  2464. and many who transition and stay transitioned deeply wish they didn't have to go through their other puberty Feels like no surgury til you're an adult, but drugs with medical supervision is the right balance
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  2465. Vote Green!
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  2466. If you drive a train in London, you can't live in Scotland Surely that's just common sense?
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  2467.  @mrnice7570  I can definitely agree that if you don't gold your representstives accountable, they will behave unaccountably
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  2468.  @georgesdelatour  ?
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  2469. We made a sovereign choice - NI being in the Single Market was better than restarting the Troubles
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  2470.  @twisteddancer7773  I thought it was a world cup, not the Qatar invitational Yeah, you should be respectful wherever you go, but if you open your doors to the world to host an international event, it's a bit lame to complain that you don't like how the world does things!
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  2471.  @jamescaley9942  I think a manifesto promise to recruit more doctors and nurses for the NHS would be very popular
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  2472. Wait, what? In what world could you describe a big corporation as "the left"?
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  2473. Blair believed in and endorsed the private sector, while Boris promised public sector investment He failed to deliver, but in their manifestos, Boris was left of Blair
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  2474. I think he might actually scrap the Lords, if only because it's been stuffed full of Boris loyalists, and a manifesto pledge to reform the Lords gives him an unblockable way to get rid of them
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  2475.  @timelwell7002  maybe, but to outnumber the Boris mob the Lords would end up being the largest legislature in the world, outnumbering the legislature in countries ten times our size Even an establishment stalwart like Starmer would cringe at that kind of ridiculousness, I think
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  2476. @davehoughton7474  fair enough 🙂 If I was involved, I'd be wanting a costing of how much it would cost to buy sufficient gold, and request some alternate proposals to explore what other assets we could secure for the same price There's probably better options for the UK than buying gold
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  2477. I am glad their "defence" was stopped. Last time they defended it it stank of piss for weeks...
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  2478.  @chrisj9700  the big one is dairy, Canadian dairy farmers argue they've been sold out and are now being undercut by US dairy farmers. On the other US land border, control over electricity policy is a big political issue. The current Mexican government say they have control over energy policy, the US claims they should have free market access according to the treaty Are Mexico willing to assert their independence to deliver the will of the Mexican people? Is it worth the tradeoff in other sectors? I don't know the Mexican economy well enough to make that call, but there's your sovereignty vs prosperity case study in the USMCA
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  2479.  @EmpiricalMind  heard that line before! How long until this amazing plan for success occurs? 30 years? 50 years?
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  2480. ​@Try telling the truth. An authoritarian merger of corporate money and unchecked state power. Happy with that definition of fascism? Seen how many Tory MPs are ex-bankers who still have close links with corporate money?
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  2481. Why is Richard Tice being censored? I post a quote of his entirely clean and reasonable words, and my post disappears!
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  2482. ​ @stevebrooks6275  Atlee had ideas and vision
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  2483. Once licences are sold we have to buy it back at global prices. This makes some tory chums richer, but does nothing for us
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  2484. ​ @andrewdobson813  but thise terms will be better than staying out. Why would you want to stay out, waiting for a better offer that will never come?
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  2485.  @christinerussell113  are the problems caused by the EU, or by the Tories? Did we boot the right one?
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  2486. Has there ever been a case where a reliable social safety net has been a bad thing for a state to have?
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  2487. ​ @archvaldor yep. I loathe cheesy gotcha questions, but other than those, a potential parlimentary representative should be able to tackle serious questions - doubly so if they want my vote!
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  2488. Sure, there are global problems - but who has to bear the consequences doesn't feel right to most people. That's the political dispute here
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  2489. They really aren't paying attention. Putin happily feeds Russian people into the meatgrinder. Why would Putin go soft on anyone else?
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  2490. He said the "demise of the" bit very quietly 🤫
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  2491. I agree tax dodging is bad, but the threshold is ridiculously low. At 1k it's not catching any meaningful fraud, but will discourage resale and reuse, which just encourages more landfill and waste
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  2492. Sounds like they have the funding and expertise to target campaigning where it's effective. This doesn't sound like a counterproductive protest vote
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  2493. Happily our Greens have found a demographic coalition that seems to be working, and coexists comfortably We have a growing ecosocialist group. Whether you're opposing billionaires because they're polluting the planet, or opposing them because you just want to afford a house, the common ground is strong and effective 🙂
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  2494. We have the same right, but not the people or the infrastructure to do so...
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  2495. but is he putting the country first, or just mar-a-largo?
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  2496. Don't hate them, pity them! It winds them up more 😁
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  2497. Norway
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  2498. Bankruptcy and asset siezure is the answer They wanted capitalism? They're in fatal debt and are failing. Enjoy the capitalism, shareholder people!
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  2499.  @sueyourself5413  Thanks for the help! So if there are no barristers, what stops a solicitor (or indeed any other you listed) from filling in?
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  2500.  @ancietman  maybe that technology will be reliable enough in the future, but it isn't ready today. Today, train staff need a proper wage Also,I haven't seen a robot cleaner anywhere. The RMT members are people like cleaning staff, not the drivers!
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  2501. @Be Real  she could be sharp, and looking out for herself If that's who she is, it explains why she isn't talking straight about what she's planning!
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  2502. Maybe marches aren't the most effective way to get political change - but I don't have a spare million to "donate" to politicians, so marches it is!
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  2503. ​ @robertjohn6354 that's a pretty low bar to climb over!
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  2504.  @asmith9140  yeah, the mouldy ones only went up by 99%. Tragic news for slumlords! /s
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  2505. ​ @Andrew-rc3vh if Oxbridge-educated politicians are any guide, "better than oxbridge" is a very low bar to clear!
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  2506. Guess you don't know how to search Youtube then?
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  2507. No, I think the members who voted for her sincerely want her as leader and believe what she was saying The Tory membership is scarily clueless 😳
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  2508.  @andrewclarke6916  and these are (on paper) our business elite, those who run companies and are politically engaged enough to be party members If this represents our leadership across politics and business, this country needs some drastic changes!
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  2509.  @SMILEITMIGHTNOTHAPPENYET  so you like being part of a high cost of living, high tax and low pay economy?
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  2510. It's a problem if you're adding to it just to give more subsidies and tax breaks to billionaires...
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  2511.  @DoggleBird  get arrested. From all backgrounds
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  2512. Braverman goes above and beyond on being vile - even other Tories don't like her
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  2513. Damo, if you're interested in my take on turning around the "politics of envy" line, we need to turn it to "politics of responsibility" The Lord Alan types want to own everything and profit from everything, but skive off when there's bills to be paid If you own things, you're responsible for them - not just the bricks and mortar, but the institutions they represent If they don't want to take responsibility for all the things they own, we will happily have them back!
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  2514.  @duggdog9102  as opposed to the "sensible grown up" plan of growing the economy by investing nothing, and changing very little?
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  2515.  @keithmarshall8796  they don't live in the right place? They don't have the right skills and experience? They're long term sick or disabled? Was it one of those, or were you thinking of a different answer?
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  2516. I suspect they're willing to sink a loss to push their message, but I am glad their propaganda effort is proving to be more expensive than they hoped!
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  2517. How did Brexit mitigate any of these problems? It just added new problems
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  2518. If you take a view over multiple centuries, the trend is people get more educated and able to understand the systems they live in, and better defend their interests It's only in the short term that there are wobbles up and down. Recently we've been wobbling down a bit, but people like Gary are helping set up the next rise 🙂
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  2519. Oddly enough, military interventions by the UK caused many of the refugees. More intervention will just create more refugees, surely?
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  2520. It's not really a pay rise if it merely matches inflation though. That's break even
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  2521. Agreed. I want other parties who I can respectfully disagree with, and that is no longer true of the Conservatives, as I know there will be no respect given back
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  2522. ​ @ThomasKing19933  depends if the tax is on the banks or everyone's income Guess which one the Tories prefer?
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  2523. Rishi would have been selfishly competent. He'd have taken the biggest slice of the cake for him and his, but made sure the cake was good overall Liz is busy incinerating the cake
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  2524.  alan young  It's not just the lies, it's the doubling down on denials, even when caught red handed People make mistakes, and will forgive mistakes, but only if you show willingness to put things right!
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  2525. @Elston Bell  I am planning to listen to it on catchup later. Sounds like it will be an interesting one to look forward to!
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  2526. Bingo!
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  2527. Yeah, literally the job of VP Not the first time Republicans have been shocked by people actually doing the job they're supposed to do!
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  2528. I like him, he's proud of London and promotes us every chance he gets. He's got a bit of a used car saleman vibe sometimes, but so do a lot of Londoners. It's good to see someone hustling for London in the Mayor seat
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  2529. and even those early nukes were cleaner than the Chernobyl explosion, which wasn't a nuclear reaction, but a conventional heat and pressure explosion that blasted dirty radioactive material far and wide
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  2530. I'd say that's an if, not a when Appropriately, this in a large part due to the complications of the Northern Ireland situation. Other CPTPP members are wisely cautious of getting tied up in that!
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  2531. What they are doing is capitalism. Some of the saturday morning cartoon villain nonsense that people throw at them is complete conspiracy theorist loopiness
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  2532. "We elected a left wing Prime Minister" Eh, no we didn't. Maybe we should, to help Francois here tell the difference 😁
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  2533. Let's hope you can have a better one soon!
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  2534. I point the finger at the state of journalism. We have newspapers that can spend the best part of a fortnight putting curry and beer on the front page, but is incapable of intelligent analysis of economics
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  2535.  @matthewsemple  absolutely this. Smart bosses will look at the work and their team and work out the right mix for them Meanwhile relics like JRM are more bothered about control and looking 'important', but will get left behind by everyone else busy getting things done 😁
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  2536.  @redf7209  Also odd, Mogg and friends would normally insist we let the free market find the best solution. It has, and suddenly they don't like it...
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  2537. Unless you're publishing a scientific paper containing nothing but confirmed, repeatable, measurable results, everything is at least a little bit propaganda But GBNews is pretty blatant about their agenda, let's be honest
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  2538. I understand your concerns, but we haven't even got rejoin on the table of mainstream political discussion yet. Is it a bit too soon to be worrying about how the end plays out?
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  2539.  @permabear6025  but it was starting to recover... and then Tory austerity happened and killed it
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  2540. Who should we trust? The financial Times or the minister for the 18th century? 🤔
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  2541.  Trixie K  what do you imagine Labour might do that could be worse than this?
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  2542.  Trixie K  Labour are in a tough position I guess. If they stand firmly with the working class they don't get elected, but if they don't get elected, the Tories get in and crush the working class I am pretty happy with the balance Starmer is showing right now. Really like the nationalised power company plans!
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  2543. So you're going to force pensioners back to work?
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  2544. @imbonkers3629  the record low was 3.4%, and the record high was 11.9% 4.6% is a really low unemployment rate!
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  2545.  @twisteddancer7773  out of curiosity, how do you currently pay for electricity and gas?
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  2546.  @twisteddancer7773  we can afford billions if there's a viable repayment plan. The repayment plan is funded by all the income that goes to the government instead of overseas investors
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  2547. When did good manners and respectfulness stop being British values? 🙁
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  2548. It is civilised and correct to restrict extreme methods of protest It is deeply wrong to restrict topics of protest They are doing far too much of the latter, while wearing the mask of the former 🙁
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  2549. Because the Tories want photos of small boats for the newspapers, so they don't grant visas, not even temporary ones No visa, no plane
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  2550. Like George said, it's something people get better at with practice. Anecdotally, I've heard a lot of people only decided their Brexit vote on the day If people engaged with Brexit before the vote in the way they did afterwards, the result would have been different
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  2551. I don't accept this. There are politicians out there who genuinely work for the betterment of the people they represent We have to ask, why do they so rarely get elected?
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  2552. @Ndlanding  I am well aware it was the sycophants in Canutes court who believed Canute had godly powers, not Canute himself 🙂
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  2553.  @mrsuggaland1640  Well,I am glad you're not a judge! 😳
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  2554. We need both immigration and better education and training
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  2555. ​ @billB101 as opposed to the world beating success of Johnson and Truss?
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  2556. And their ability to spin terrible policies to the public as amazing solutions...
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  2557. Anyone else find it a bit rich that "funny tinge" Eagle is trying to take the moral high ground here?
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  2558.  @stewartkingsley  Technically true, but none of these are independent private companies, so not relevant here They are either nationalised, or subcontracted to the government with clauses that gives the government vetos on this negotiation. None of the companies are autonomous, independent private agents
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  2559. ​ @alanhat5252 but haven't you heard? Richard Tice wrote a new dictionary, and now socialism is when you put taxes up 🙄
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  2560. ​@Luke Harrop so no panto for anyone in your family then?
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  2561. Wenn es richtig ist, warum nicht?
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  2562. "I have picked up political opponents all over" Did you see the brief eye contact between Boris and Liz as he said that? 🤔
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  2563. ​ @chrisj9700 privatisation unlocked sod all investment, as no improvement work has been done!
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  2564. That said, if it cuts through and encourages young voters to actively vote, I'll applaud the Tories for accidentally doing something positive for once 🤣
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  2565. Raab wasn't doing his job properly, now he's left that job I assume you approve?
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  2566.  @twisteddancer7773  that was your words - people who don't do their job properly need to find another job
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  2567.  @twisteddancer7773  so where is "throwing tomatoes at people" considered a normal part of career development, or normal disciplinary process?
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  2568. ​ @SBuk1 that's a ridiculous interpretation - the markets reacted to the minibudget. The reaction was well established before the BoE made any statements
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  2569. If there's a budget rebellion, I think they're skipping the internal contest and going straight to the general election
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  2570. I doubt it was the regulator who prioritised all those dividend payouts ahead of infrastructure investment
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  2571. I prefer turnip monarchy 😋
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  2572.  @bossman1905  In the south, and the big cities, that's not a decent wage
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  2573.  @limsagen  how do you relocate a house or a factory?
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  2574. Are the executives acknowledging that there's less money in the industry and living more frugally? We both know the answer to that one!
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  2575. Start treating Eton as a problem, not a positive
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  2576. Sometimes she dodges the entire interview!
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  2577.  @branduusituuli  I have heard of pensioners, but I have also heard about this thing called the triple lock
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  2578.  @branduusituuli  so people need to vote to protect their material interests, rather than vote for who they think would be a laugh down the pub A gold standard currecy won't protect you from a government that serves a narrow, closed circle of chums. The only protection there is to not put such people in power, even if their banter game is good
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  2579. I agree, and would go further. He's just wrapped his car round a tree, and is now stumbling around in denial. Accidents only happen to bad drivers, so how could this happen to him ? Will he learn, or is he going to be that guy who spends the rest of his life sitting on his own in the corner of a pub, ranting about how he was cheated out of the rightful rewards that someone of his genius and talent obviously deserves?
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  2580. He hasn't moved on though, scratch him even a little and he bleeds pure Brexit angst!
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  2581.  @hustlinmagic  so what happened to the houses? Where are they now?
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  2582.  @alexguest9937  he doesn't care about us - he is quite happy to sell off the NHS so we'll be up to our eyes in debt if we fall ill, just like America
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  2583. Anyone else freaked out that they agree with Nadine Dorries here? That said, the alternative is to agree with Rees Mogg...
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  2584.  @mikeyacson9542  so your plan is to not staff hospitals in the busiest places with the most people? Can't imagine a politician running on the "no staff in hospitals" plan!
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  2585. They earn a lot less than most self employed tradesfolk, and like other self employed people have to cover all their business costs out of their fees
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  2586. Police want to catch criminal. It's a horrific situation for the victims, but not something with much depth for discussion
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  2587. ​ @cheyh-r8d  reduce welfare? Do you mean "starve all the old people"?
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  2588. ​@branduusituuli I am paying off a loan at the moment. Am I doing to go bankrupt? No, because I also have a wage coming in. Listing outgoings without pairing them against incomings misrepresents the truth And governmnent tax income is even more guaranteed than my wage, so you have to include it in the reckoning
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  2589.  @branduusituuli  that's my point though - if you only include outgoings, I am screwed. In reality though, I have income, so it's fine The government figures are doommongering by only including the outgoings, not the income
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  2590. Very kind of them to give the SNP so much campaign material for free!
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  2591. You say that capital is also suffering, so it can't be class war I read the opposite conclusion - now the squeeze is everywhere, expect everything to get more cutthroat and nasty as everyone fights for the limited wealth that's still around!!
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  2592. ​ @connie473 sure you have more voters, but that should also mean you have more people who can count them 🙂
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  2593. Wes Streeting is panicking - there's a real chance he'll lose his seat as a result of this campaign!
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  2594. You say it like we're seeing any investment now! No investment is where we are already
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  2595. The rail is still partially privatised. Somehow, despite not having the money to operate without government bailout, they still paid dividends. How does that work?
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  2596. They might be on a winner here. If you drink it, even the weak light stuff, there comes a point where you're full and/or passed out Shooting it and letting it soak into the ground? That market does not cap out 😋
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  2597.  @johndonson1603  I think more people are worried about their rent and bills than their neighbour's skin tone
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  2598. The Tories talk nonsense, and the companies won't talk in public at all!
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  2599. ​ @theoutsider6191  we do need the workers though - but we also need to invest in public services, and stop obsessing about making sure house prices keep going up, and build enough homes to be affordable instead!
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  2600. ​ @johnburns4017 and this is a problem, because rent seeking is parasitic on productive work. Wonder why we have a productivity crisis right now? 🤔
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  2601.  @madcyril4135  indeed. Thankfully some things are still decided by grownups even when we have Tories acting like children despite supposedly being the government
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  2602. @Mel Matrix  It's not 'overnight' - wages have been falling against cost of living for over a decade If fair pay rises had happened over the last decade, it wouldn't need such a big jump now to catch up
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  2603. Your entire argument assumes the private company will be cheaper - but in house is the cheapest option, so why outsource?
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  2604. In your carpenter example, Gary is not after you, the carpenter. He's after the person who wants £50 from that £100 sale because the tree grew on their land
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  2605. Nope, will of the people says that he's staying - unless you hate democracy?
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  2606. Bet she doesn't refuse a state pension later in life though 🤔
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  2607. I am not Starmer's greatest fan, but I'm not going to criticise him for not talking about the Budget that hadn't been published yet!
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  2608. Are all their candidates going to stand this time?
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  2609. What about MPs? They got a big old pay rise, and their only qualification is remembering to turn up and to vote how their told!
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  2610. Carnival was quieter than most football matches of similar size. Does that mean we need to ask questions about allowing football?
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  2611. ​ @middleman9183 the UK started austerity in 2010, and it still hasn't ended!
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  2612. ​@danw5760 our 'economy' is largely energy companies making mad profits If you exclude the energy companies from the economic figures (ie the economy as experienced by people who aren't on the board of energy companies) we are in a serious recession, far worse than Germany
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  2613. Leftist infighting is the worst cliche that keeps coming true. We need more constructive disagreement, where we can acknowledge small differences without creating drama about it!
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  2614. ​ @stephfoxwell4620 which of Marx's ideas do you disagree with?
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  2615.  @GoogleStealsData  I am experiencing the Tories make my life a lot worse. Why can't a better party make my life better?
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  2616.  @Lolo-lm5xx  Getting ill people back to work is good for revenue too! Huge waiting lists full of people signed off work til they are better is not good for the country
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  2617. I love the look on Widdecombe's face. It's like a pantomime witch who has just said the magic words "Wage Price Spiral" that makes payrises for workers go away, but the magic words no longer work for we have a hero who has broken the spell 😁
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  2618. @Lori  if higher salaries solves the staffing crisis, why not just pay higher wages? Will still be cheaper than privatising, and having to pay billing departments and shareholder dividends on top of the actual care costs!
    2
  2619. What backbone? Our spines are permanently curved over from all the cap doffing and forelock tugging...
    2
  2620. 13 years of austerity will leave public services in a bad state
    2
  2621. What's done is done though, we all have to Bury the hatchet and look to the future. What can we do, now we are here?
    2
  2622. ​ @DavidJohnson-dc8lu in a perfect world, definitely, but around crowds in those numbers, pragmatically you have to let minor incidents go. The escalation wouldn't be worth it
    2
  2623. JRM was also on question time trying to tell a wine seller how to sell wine. JRM needs to stop talking about things he doesn't understand This may effectively be a vow of silence
    2
  2624. It could be, that in ten years time we look back and say this budget was the beginning of the end of the Tories, and that would be brilliant The bit between now and then isn't so nice though 🙁
    2
  2625. so you think our current public services are desirable, and don't want to change anything?
    2
  2626.  @Silver-st2zq  Labour are the cheeks, the Tories are the orifice!
    2
  2627. It's not that I can't see a difference, I just can't see enough difference When the choice is "life gets a bit worse" or "life gets a lot worse", the choice is obvious, but you really would prefer a third option of "life gets better"
    2
  2628. ​ @ryaneylee like Truss already tried?
    2
  2629. If you or me were to take a loan to buy a car to get to work, that's very different to taking a loan for a fancy holiday, even if the holiday costs less than the car - the car keeps money coming in, the holiday money is just gone Biden bought a car and went to work. Trump just wants a fancy holiday
    2
  2630. Mostly in hotels owned by Tory donors 🤔
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  2631. This is why we need to tax assets Good luck hiding that mansion in an offshore tax haven 😁
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  2632.  @shinkansenshinkansend8316  taxes/rents aren't "seizing assets" 🙄
    2
  2633.  @shinkansenshinkansend8316   if you own leasehold property and have to pay the landowner, how is that different to owning property in a sovereign nation, and paying tax to the soveriegn government? The infrastructure of a nation doesn't pay for itself, so if you don't want infrastructure, sell up and buy property in whichever low infrastructure nation you prefer
    2
  2634.  @shinkansenshinkansend8316  apparently Switzerland is in the grey list. What's the magic word I paired with Switzerland to get blocked? 🙄
    2
  2635. ​ @downshift4503  I suppose we could all individually transport our rubbish to the tip, but that sounds like a crazy inefficient way to run things to me!
    2
  2636. Since you are arguing for Amazon workers to not get a pay rise, could JoB bring a few hundred of them for backup?
    2
  2637. I guess he earns money as a landlord on the side. If those offices are empty he loses out! Tory priorities 🤬
    2
  2638. I worry about similar patterns here in the UK, especially debt and loss of productive industry...
    2
  2639. Based on water and public transport, relevant experience seems to be entirely optional when running things in the UK 🙁
    2
  2640. I would prefer we let them speak, but have some actual journalism and challenge the nonsense they spout!
    2
  2641.  @frankbrennan1619  They should be challenged by proper journalists, too
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  2642.  @frankbrennan1619  I don't rate journalists that barely challenge their guests!
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  2643. and as anyone with hands-on experience knows, metrics just creates people good at gaming targets, which is completely different to getting the job done!
    2
  2644.  @oweng7987  it is true that trade is complex and fuzzy! Take the war in Ukraine - there, trade policy and military policy have become deeply interconnected. You can't have a common trade policy without some willingness to coordinate on all the other areas of policy that influence trade TLDR - together is stronger. If it works for trade, let's try it in other areas too!
    2
  2645.  @oweng7987  I entirely agree that we need to hold any government we elect responsible and accountable. If we're not reminding them that we are watching, then they will ignore us. Democracy is for life, not just for polling day!
    2
  2646.  @thegrandmuftiofwakanda  are those the figures that don't account for inflation, and that are padded by some very shortsighted sales of natural gas?
    2
  2647. We already have a shortage of workers, yet wages aren't rising. If the Tories care about workers having decent pay, why do they fight the Unions so much? The simple truth is the Tories want everyone to be underpaid and insecure. That's why they always have an excuse but never a solution!
    2
  2648.  @tbone35453  also looks like unionised drivers are doing better than independents, from the quick look I made
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  2649. ​@imbonkers3629 but we don't? We're not even in the top 10 by any metric I have found
    2
  2650. Lots of people who have all had real terms wage cuts are now taking action to get better pay Is he struggling to understand something so simple, or does he actively not want to understand?
    2
  2651. I could feel sorry for small-c traditional conservatives, if it wasn't for the fact that they sleepwalked into this by prioritising short-term "unity" and electability over effective policy and their own principles Conservatism in the wider sense beyond the party of that name has so much rebuilding to do before they'll have any credibility again
    2
  2652. It's "fake it til you make it" but he's never going to make it!
    2
  2653. Macron will take a tough stance in France UK discussions for the sake of the EU. Le Pen will do so in the name of France Either way, anyone expecting France to suddenly go soft on the Tories is going to be disappointed!
    2
  2654. @MrAckers75  the NHS would have done it in house, but the Tories wanted to do it so they could funnel money to their chums instead
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  2655.  @biocapsule7311  I will take great comfort in knowing that this resurrection is going to be a particularly costly one. I intend to keep backing and supporting all the amazing indie commentators and journalists who have been exposing the horrorshows behind the scenes!
    2
  2656. True! In a sane world, we'd pay the IEA to keep doing what they're doing - so we can always do the opposite to what they suggest
    2
  2657. ​@Heather Moore A working NHS? Labour have always managed that, even under Thatcher boy Blair. I think we deserve that
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  2658. ​ @EndoftheBlock7224 scottish water says hi - publicly owned, well maintained, and seeing rates go up far less than Thames water are asking for
    2
  2659. ​ @aituk the real test is whether the private school kids get out of it School is clearly good, as rich families pay lots of money to go to good ones I suspect national service will be the opposite, and rich families pay to avoid it
    2
  2660.  @aituk  it undermines the argument that it's a positive thing Nobody spends money to avoid positives!
    2
  2661. ​ @christinefiedor3518 have the AfD said who is going to set the rules for this single market, if they remove the institution that currently does it?
    2
  2662. Yeah, when did everyone turn into such snowflakes?
    2
  2663. but this came from Thatcher's beloved free market...
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  2664.  @maori185gc  I've also heard that the Economics in PPE isn't exactly cutting edge. If the stories are to be believed, the syllabus hasn't been updated in a long time...
    2
  2665. Why not just enlist if you want to join?
    2
  2666. and with so many candidates being parachuted in from central office, we may as well switch to a party list system
    2
  2667. You want a video on the First Minister moving into the official residence of the First Minister? What's the big story there?
    2
  2668. ​ @paulinskipukprogressive4903 I am not OK with more Tories, but since Hunt and Reeves are singing from the same Austerity hymn sheet, it looks like we're stuck with them 🙁
    2
  2669. But I suspect he's a regular visitor to the hideout of the Tufton St Gang!
    2
  2670. I always assume it's bendy bananas. The ones in the shops right now aren't bendy enough!
    2
  2671. But water quality standards are one of those EU regulations the Tories are so proud to not be bound by anymore. That is pure Brexit!
    2
  2672. Citation needed. The majority don't seem to be happy with their circumstances right now!
    2
  2673. Young people get to choose whose experience to listen to. After being shafted by Brexiteers, why would they listen to them?
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  2674. Like Gary said in this video, we need grassroots support. Any time they talk economics on a panel like this, hit the comments and ask why Gary wasn't invited. If you have the time, get into question time audiences and ask Gary questions. Keep making noise until his absence is heard louder than his presence Gary can't change things alone. Gary as the speaker for a movement can 🙂
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  2675. Using words rather than throwing stuff at people would be a really obvious first step Well move onto advanced stuff like inspiration and consensus building once he understands the bare minimum required
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  2676. We spend less than France or Germany, despite Nick's claim Let's match the spending of other developed nations before we claim it's a "bottomless pit"!
    2
  2677. Not sure if euphemisms or literal...
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  2678.  @pjmlfc05  you think the way to improve the NHS is to do a Thames Water on it? 😳
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  2679.  @pjmlfc05  so we need a new Alan Milburn then, not privatisation. About the only mistep he made was agreeing those ridiculously costly PFI deals
    2
  2680. ​ @helenheenan3447 nah, they build bots smarter than this, nowadays!
    2
  2681. @Hookah Smoking Caterpillar  deadpan understatement? Agreed, that's our thing. Outright evasion? That's only the dodgy people
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  2682. He does care, he's doing his best to purge government of both
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  2683. ​@PorthLlwyd sure, as long as there's a sober assessment of what jobs we can and can't live with not filling I don't want hasty policy damaging services the way Truss wrecked the economy!
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  2684. ​ @johnwheeler3071 for the same reason Sinn Fein used to be proscribed, even though it wasthe IRA that did the actual violence
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  2685. @davidjupp961  even if they don't win, merely being in the running with rhetoric like this is deeply disturbing
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  2686. That is a really weird choice - if I hug a tree, does a giant dome appear over the UK?
    2
  2687. What we need is a more democratic democracy. The current one only just scrapes over the bar
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  2688. @James Pope  That as well, but given the current system creates an elected dictatorship from only 40% of the vote, maybe the two are related? A more accountable government would care more about doing a good job!
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  2689.  @kaywhy245  We made laws in the EU. We weren't the passive dependent you paint us out to be
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  2690. I think she's secretly glad she didn't win the leadership contest
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  2691. Since you care so much, what should we all be doing to help?
    2
  2692. He certainly looked after one particular bank account. He seems to have got bored and given up on championing anyone else's though
    2
  2693. If Starmer does somehow read this, one U-Turn I would applaud is admitting that kicking Driscoll out was a bad idea! Make it convincing and maybe Driscoll would even run for Labour again. Maybe 😉
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  2694.  @nunyabidness3075  did you read the article? I haven't seen it, and I'm curious what the punishment is
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  2695. How do you know we can't tax the rich? Nobody has even tried
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  2696. There's only one way to settle this! Take all the photos, of Labour and Conservative events, and publish all of them Let the public be the judge!
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  2697. From what little I have seen so far, she's going to be yet another Tory perma-victim, with a thousand excuses for why nothing works, and zero solutions to offer
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  2698. ​@BigHenFor The whole point of integrating strategic resources was to make it harder to declare war - doing so would break key supply lines needed for war logistics It was a peace project through economic integration
    2
  2699. Carnival had less trouble than most football matches do
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  2700. @petelawless811  no, but I do know people who got stabbed up really badly. Thankfully not fatally, but their scars are pretty dramatic
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  2701.  @angelamaryquitecontrary4609  I am entirely with you. Bad ideas are not like cheese or wine. They will not mature into something better! We can't undo the past, but we absolutely have to learn from it to improve the future. There is no good future in being cut off and isolated
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  2702. Yep. If you want to find people who put their ideology over common sense problem solving, you should look at the current givernment!
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  2703. You tell me - how are your personal finances doing?
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  2704.  @davidgibbs9950  Are you the disaster capitalist?
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  2705. I think there are some improvements to be made in negotiation with the EU, and I am pretty sure I know what will and won't be negotiated What won't be negotiated is the regulations. Take SPS checks as an example. I think there is a deal possible there, that removes a lot of the border friction To get the agreement, there will be no discussion about what checks are expected - the UK takes off-the-shelf terms, or takes the current deal What will be negotiated is how we are going to prove alignment if it isn't done through checks at border. That will be an awkward discussion after the Tory binfire, but not impossible This is what I expect to see - not making Brexit work well but at least working slightly better than currently
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  2706.  @KernowDamo  so true! Thankfully, alignment benefits both sides, if our government can show it's not going to be awkward and silly anymore
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  2707. @David Summer  please let me know if I've missed a third option, but I can only see two ways to harmonise regulations. One is to decide your shared regulations through a shared, democratic process (EU model), and the other is for the largest party to dictate the standard that smaller nations need to comply with (US model) Unless you can give me a third way to decide shared regulations and standards, I have a preference for the democratic, EU style
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  2708.  @jameshogan6142  so if France has already taken more asylum seekers than we have, can France send even more?
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  2709.  @thefifthdoctor6780  I remember the Blair years. Definitely better than the last twelve years have been
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  2710. ​@stewie7338 for decades the promise was made - don't tax the rich and they will invest the money better than the government That was clearly nonsense, so we should tax them like we used to, and spend the money on infrastructure and services ourselves!
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  2711.  @stewie7338  it isn't what the EU wanted, as many of the nations who spend more are EU nations. This is Westminster policy decisions
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  2712. I would say our Red Coat Person is smarter than Rachel Reeves At least Red Coat Person can point to historical cases where their plan worked!
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  2713. ​@dandycat2204 while also knowing that getting dragged into another middle east conflict is electoral poison Even a suspicion of it would lose votes for which ever side it sticks to
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  2714. ​ @adenwellsmith6908 being liquid and keeping the economy flowing
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  2715. So, I made a short comment about liquidity in the economy, and it's disappeared? The YouTube filters are seriously broken!
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  2716. ​ @TomCL-vb6xc yep - the UK economy is a pyramid scheme, and it's going to crash hard sooner or later 🙁
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  2717. It's a deliberate tactic to stop word spreading
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  2718. ​ @grimdicer152  because we need investment, and that's where the capital is being hoarded
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  2719.  @brianterry8317  then you know all too well what a useless, incompetent national government can do to a country, even inside a successful continent sized single market 🙁
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  2720. ​ @nils191  people need to be a lot clearer about whether they mean economically liberal, socially liberal, or both!
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  2721.  @nils191  words change, and in English, liberal is probably more likely to be assumed to mean socially liberal than economically liberal You can dislike the way the tide has turned, but you'll struggle to turn it back. I'd rather we avoid confusion, as that's easier to do than turn back decades of linguistic drift!
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  2722. I don't like the idea that we can't trust our politicians, and by extension, the electorate If we vote for irresponsible people, we get irresponsible policy. What went wrong, to make irresponsible people so attractive?
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  2723. You could say the same about old people Now, old people have earned their retirement, but it's still a lot of housing, healthcare and other support we need to provide!
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  2724. She is definitely telling us who she is, and we should listen!
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  2725. @Robson Barstow  I'm not a believer in the accelerationist idea. Where everything has been torn down, the rebuilding tends to be done as a fully owned subsidiary of corporate America 🙁
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  2726. Why don't you want to reclaim our water and power and nationalise them?
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  2727. @beachcomber1able  Which explains why Tice won't, was wondering why Ben is so strongly against it?
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  2728. But they do make decisions! They look at their budget, and could choose "fund public services" but instead decide "set up dubious contracts so they can give it to their chums" 😡
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  2729.  @samuelboucher1454  I'll simply call them arsonists and looters
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  2730. @samuelboucher1454  recruitment and coordination are actions. Are you calling for the Just Stop Oil leadership ro be released, too?
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  2731. @samuelboucher1454  I genuinely respect your consistency, even if I disagree with your principles! I don't like ringleaders being able to hide behind their followers and get away with claiming they did nothing, while organising everything. I deeply dislike leaders who throw their crew under the bus, and if they won't stand with their people, the law shouldn't let them shirk their involvement
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  2732. They aren't socialist! Which utility are they nationalising?
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  2733. @hazelhadley-britt6396  Sorry, you've lost me why history?
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  2734. ​@EL Cid and they are using that freedom, and now we have a staffing shortage
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  2735. ​ @Valhalla-or8mx it's not the people who supposedly represent me via democratic mandate There's only one regime using our wealth in our name to kill civilians
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  2736. You can only vote for the people on the ballot, on the day Doesn't stop you campaigning for someone better in the election after next!
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  2737.  @johnrussell3961  ultimately, international geopolitics makes Europe stronger together than divided, but I totally understand the continental mainland wanting us to fix up a few things first!
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  2738. Well,I am looking to buy a wind turbine. It will pay for itself in ten years. If fossil fuels stay as high as they currently are it may even pay for itself in only 5 years!
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  2739. This started ages ago. Blame the owners for dragging it out so long
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  2740. ​ @larrydickman5936 from England, but not wise
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  2741. Donald and Elon's Incompetence is another version going around
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  2742. Tories love a bit of doublespeak
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  2743. ​ @dianacasey6002 we do, but the establishment doesn't...
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  2744. The denial is strong in this one...
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  2745.  @john5966  you're funny 😁
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  2746. The cost of maintaining a backup is typically much less than the cost of not having one when the primary fails It's short sighted false economy
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  2747. Inflation will reduce the real value of those offshore accounts over time If we tax that money if they use it in the real economy, and reduce it's purchasing power with inflation if they don't, we rebalance the economy either way Ever wondered why rich people and their client media/politicians are so scared of rising inflation?
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  2748. Have you seen who's been in cabinet recently? FPTP did not keep right wing extremists out of government
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  2749.  @martineyles  Maybe! There's pros and cons for both options
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  2750. They possibly can for insider trading fraud, but sadly they are notoriously slow and complex cases to prosecute
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  2751. I am commenting as I listen, and I have to call this out too. Apparently we have a strong economy with almost no unemployment, the ideal time to justify higher wages, yet we can't afford higher wages One of those two things is a lie. Which one is it?
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  2752. Good idea, but we need longer than one year!
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  2753. Has it though? The Tories just looked to Asian visas instead of the single market. Given the rising wages and standard of living in Eastern Europe, the Tories would probably be doing that, even if we stayed in the EU
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  2754.  @msa-tt4bg  there's always going to be a squeeze on wages, unless you have large numbers of people willing to stand up and ask where all the profits are going
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  2755. If he wants to accuse Khan of corruption he should bring his evidence to court
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  2756. ​ @Spartan-jg4bf but let's have some common sense here - which costs more - getting some of your power from the most expensive source, or getting all of your power from the most expensive source?
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  2757.  @Spartan-jg4bf  factually wrong. Start again please!
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  2758.  @Spartan-jg4bf  Norway has it's own oil, but domestically uses renewables and sells fossil fuels to others for profit They do this because renewables are cheaper, but other people are still paying to burn the expensive stuff. Economic common sense
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  2759.  @Spartan-jg4bf  Iran, Quatar and Russia are also heavily centralised governments that intervene heavily in the market Are you more or less arguing for central planning here?
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  2760.  @mpgnz73  the government owns the contracts and has final say on industrial disputes The Tory government are the ones responsible here. Look at Scotland and Wales - where the contract isn't controlled by the Tories, no problems!
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  2761. Macron and ensemble appear to be tragically repeating history They're willing to try appease the far right rather than let a single communist into parliament. Even if you hate communism with every fibre of your being, would one or two in parliament really do more harm than a Le Pen government?
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  2762.  @saricubra2867  I think you are talking about Stalinism - other forms of socialism are available!
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  2763.  @saricubra2867  but not one I have seen anyone advocate for, anywhere in my lifetime If you're worried that there are Stalinists under the bed, let me reassure you that you have nothing to worry about in that regard!
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  2764.  @saricubra2867  I like the NHS, and parental leave, and paid holidays, and minimum wages The things UK socialism achieves and stands for. Real examples of socialism from our history. Why the obsession with long dead Russians?
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  2765.  @saricubra2867  we are not a pure socialist society (and we don't have to be). Does seem like many of our best ideas have been from the socialist end of politics though, and we've got plenty of space to move more socialist before we get anywhere close to extremism!
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  2766.  @saricubra2867  Have I missed something? The Tories are currently in power, and have been for over a decade. Hard to pin the current economy on socialism!
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  2767.  @jloiben12  but how does war in the Ukraine get Putin closer to meeting the Spice Girls?
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  2768. America wants to protect it's airbase in the middle east
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  2769. ​ @TrevorHerbert-dj1jl  how can we believe in law and order, when the Tories make it clear they don't think it applies to them?
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  2770. @TrevorHerbert-dj1jl  yeah, we should believe in the concept of law and order, but we shouldn't believe it currently exists!
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  2771. ​@paulroberts7544 corps don't just want to sell to cis people, they need to sell to all the people they can Welcome to capitalism
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  2772. Can Starmer learn from this? He could , but I doubt he will ...
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  2773.  @FabianMacGintyONeill  I've seen better public art for a box of chalk, lunch and a few beers to be honest
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  2774. We don't need wild, untested ideas to fix the NHS. We lay less per head than most European countries If we want to be like those health systems across the channel that everyone says we should copy? Start by putting in as much money as those countries do!
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  2775. That, and she's a distraction. While we're talking about her latest outrageous statement we're not looking at what the rest of the cabinet are doing (or not doing)
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  2776. Ten pence a share is too much. When BHS was full of debt the whole company went for 1 pound And arguably that was at least 1 pound too high!
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  2777. ​ @Hannah-xx8ix Nigel himself says he's been offered a peerage twice. I've not heard anyone talk about a government position though
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  2778.  @untitled4542  it's in the public domain, and nobody from the Conservative party is disputing it. If it was a problem, the Tories wouldn't be quiet about it!
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  2779. They voted against them because they were silly ideas that don't work. The Tories pushed them through anyway, turns out they don't work! Labour were right to vote against them
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  2780. Maybe Starmer isn't as utterly useless as I feared if billionaires still fear him enough to bung record sums to the Tories...
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  2781. There was a Brexiteer faction who wanted Brexit so they could deregulate and drop taxes. That's the faction Truss and Kwarteng represent, and they got to implement their grand vision The rest of this story, you already know!
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  2782. @MGuðmundur I look at history, and every time a leader comes to power on a promise of "tradition", it's always the traditions that give the leader a fancy house and all the comforts that take priority Everyone else is secondary at best. Often ordinary people just get thrown under the bus once "great" leader has secured their position No improvement for ordinary people has been gifted from above. It's always demanded from the ground up
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  2783. Nah, Truss has the worst government "award" secured for generations!
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  2784. ​ @inguzwulf it's worthwhile to distinguish between private enterprise (owning a business) vs capitalism (making money the dominant poliitical influence) There are systems that can enable private enterprise without giving wealth overriding political power ahead of all other interests
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  2785. If we were top for growth, what was growing? Didn't feel any different to me
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  2786. I already don't drink Grants because it tastes like drain cleaner Now I know why!
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  2787. Thatcher is to the left of this lot 😳
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  2788. Can't say I agree. Sure, serious crime and firearms units need to be able to go in heavy, but I don't want Judge Dredd and Robocop walking the local beat!
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  2789. DeSantis is out of touch with Capitalism. Corporations have worked out that hiring the best, regardless of race, creed, gender etc etc, and then being equally openminded in who you sell to, makes more money Who would have guessed, right?
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  2790. ​ @thegrandmuftiofwakanda let's imagine you're a Tory donor, and you own a hotel that's struggling to attract guests Your chums in government just offered you a literal captive audience! Money problems solved, from a heartless Tory perspective...
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  2791. Not all, true, but sadly a massive majority
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  2792. ​ @SlowhandGreg I found it very informative to know that Mandelson sees no place in Labour for the sort of policies that would be moderate centre-left social democracy in the Nordic countries
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  2793.  @SlowhandGreg  because he's derogatory towards "corbynistas" - but the Corbyn platform was entirely unremarkable moderate social democrat policy
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  2794. ​@markdaniels2200 pretty sure the left is in favour of fair taxes to pay for improving public services like the police, and it's the right that cuts services!
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  2795. Pantomime season must be a nightmare for some folk here...
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  2796. Nobody else does letters. If Royal Mail closes, who will deliver Christmas cards?
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  2797. and what would be wrong with that, if everyone gets a fair wage from the work they do for the country?
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  2798. She is abandoning pensioners, but it doesn't look like she cares about current workers either Truss is on the side of big business, in the stupidest and most short sighted way possible
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  2799. The Tories are gone - there's plenty of people who don't follow politics closely who will vote Labour That's why I am thinking beyond the next election, as the great disappointment might happen really quickly, and we need people ready to present a positive, credible alternative!
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  2800. The option to put tariffs in if there's breaches is in the treaty. Which tariffs was left open to be decided later Frost signed it...
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  2801. ​ @bramvanduijn8086  I think you might be underestimating the scale of the royal estates. They own a truly vast amount of stuff in this country!
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  2802.  @davecross4493  I wish that were true, but they are actively promising some things, like no corp tax rises, while sitting on the fence on others, like green investment Their solid promises are the wrong ones 🙁
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  2803. Specifically on banking, they all owe is their jobs. The whole of banking should be paying high taxes to pay back everyone else for bailing them out!
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  2804. ​ @philjones6522 a lot of working class people voted for the "rich get richer" party, and the rich got richer What did people think the Tories would do?
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  2805. Was there a smuggling gang in the Greggs and in the Shoezone?
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  2806. ​ @carolelarochelle9854  he did drain the swamp - they no longer do corruption beneath the surface, they now just do it in plain sight!
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  2807.  @kevycanavan  Most of the trouble came from Tories (and from UKIP, who have largely joined the Tories now) They are busy imploding, so that's one complication for Rejoining resolving itself!
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  2808.  @kevycanavan  "demands" sounds like we're holding as hostage or some other threat, and that isn't how I see it going. We just build support until it's simply the obvious thing to do!
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  2809. ​ @davidhibble3020 you think an equal-opportunities capitalist like Zuckerberg (aka "I'll take your money whatever your creed or colour") is left wing? That's rather sad 🙁
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  2810.  @YouTubeSupportTeams  Is it greedy to want to pay the rent/mortgage, bills and feed your family without needing a food bank?
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  2811. They did provide the answer,even though the question wasn't asked. Inflation is being driven by external costs on essentials. If you ask people to not eat there will be riots. Wages have to keep pace with the cost of essentials However, we do need to take money out of the system to counter inflation. Therefore, we need less dividends and bonuses paid out This counters inflation without causing painful hardship for average people
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  2812.  @04nbod  that's if it happens - and even if it does, ten years is a long time. Do you want a failing, understaffed economy while we wait for automation to be viable?
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  2813. The transport dept part own the railways. They are the management and need to be at the table!
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  2814.  @Bob-jp7vl  They have the power to veto deals, and have vetoed deals. They are part of the negotiations already, but in an awkward, distant way. It would be quicker and easier if they just turned up at the table!
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  2815.  @jacobcohen9205  even if it's only a few people, what has everyone else gained to justify their loss?
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  2816. It was putting in expenses forms late, so on the same level as you or me paying a credit card bill late. We are not talking massive fraud and deception from Starmer here!
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  2817. Will the bosses also take a pay cut, now they run a less profitable business?
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  2818. @Royboy  don't need a spare room, they're going to get a job and pay their own bills
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  2819. ​ @steveparker8065 yeah, I feel you on that one. I don't want to depress myself by working out my lifetime combined rent bill...
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  2820.  @FC-PeakVersatility  did we listen to the same speech?
    1
  2821.  @davidwebb4904  Tell that to Liz Truss! She seems to have found a magic money tree to replace the hole in our finances her tax cuts will make...
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  2822.  @darrencartledge6530  I'll take that over the Tories any day!
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  2823. If the police aren't looking at the social media of a major protest movement, then we need to sack them for incompetence as well as sacking them for corruption!
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  2824. I am utterly sick of Labour being able to take votes for granted. I am going to back anyone left of the Tories if they stand the slightest chance, and encourage others to do so Tactical voting needs to move beyond just booting out the Tories, and start pressuring Labour too
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  2825.  @timpullen4941  I guess loss of freedom of movement affects you differently when you have second and third homes in the USA and the Caribbean...
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  2826. The ISPA work to a standard formula. Guess who wrote the formula? 🤔
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  2827. We already have the power to keep the Etonians out of government, we just need to stop voting for them!
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  2828. ​ @larrygerry985 I think it's going to divide by both factors, so you'll have the asset-poor who are educated, and blame systemic issues created by governments over the last 4 decades, and the asset-poor who will blame the current establishment-mandated scapegoat...
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  2829.  @glassmuxxic  there isn't a clear boundary because it is a slope, not a line There are people who are quite rich, who should pay a bit more. That scales up to people who are very rich, and need to pay a lot more
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  2830.  @lj2257  There is nothing I want to share with the Tories!
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  2831. The NHS is already bad at internal data sharing - how will that improve by fracturing it up?
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  2832. Safe - for billionaires. Not safe for the NHS
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  2833. Which country has a good service on less spend per head?
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  2834. He's probably safe. Anyone capable of robbing an upmarket flat in the canary wharf area would be better off targeting his neighbours who still work in the city Chances are though, there won't be a robbery, because the security measures on a block like that will likely be very substantial
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  2835.  @catherinemontgomery7130  or if government itself dissolves. If the Tories can't unite behind one candidate, it's GE time 😁
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  2836. The strawman is strong in this one. The only people reducing security checks are the Tories
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  2837. Isn't NATO expanding because countries feel they need protection from Putin?
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  2838.  @williamdfr1715  48/52 is unfinished business. Who said that? Farage did 😁
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  2839. Whoever picked Frost to lead negotiations definitely picked a cabbage!
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  2840. That 19% gets nurses back to pay levels they had under Labour. Aren't the Tories supposed to be good with the economy? Why can't the Tories afford what Labour could?
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  2841. Starmer does seem to be determined to get his name in the history books - in the same list as von Hindenburg and Chamberlain
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  2842. He's still an MP ...for now!
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  2843.  @elkpaz560  I did. This was about Raab resigning from cabinet. He still represents Walton as an MP ..for now 🙂
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  2844.  @cee-cee  I think the cost of living might have a bit to do with it. Even before the recent inflation, just paying the bills as a working couple is hard enough without adding extra people to the family!
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  2845.  The Orange Stool Sample  not the worst - but it is shockingly bad for the world's most expensive
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  2846. ​@AllSortsOfStuff58Brexit benefit mate. EU countries can't export to languages - pure Brexit win!
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  2847. You wouldn't know the left if the left bit you on the arse! Stop confusing us with the liberal right 😝
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  2848. Honestly, there are so many better reasons to rip into starmer than currygate!
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  2849. I do want less wealth inequality - so let's tax it!
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  2850.  @downshift4503  have you asked any Bulgarians?
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  2851.  @downshift4503  their communist party was better at running things than the Polish one, and many Bulgarians question free market reforms to this day
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  2852.  @downshift4503  Bulgarians I know associate the communist era with stability and community. That's something a lot of people here in the UK want right now
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  2853.  @lkearney7299  why so focused on the worst examples? Bit of a bleak outlook on life there!
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  2854. So give nurses a pay rise? Maybe it could match the payrise MPs were given? 🤔
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  2855. ​ @TheAArmstrong I can't see the appeal. What do we gain if we get a fresh set of faces, delivering the same austerity as we've had for 13 years already?
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  2856. the human vote!
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  2857. That says more about how far right you are than it says about Andrew Marr
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  2858. Do pre-nazi things, get compared to the pre-nazi government... 🤔
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  2859. Private energy companies would rather sell it overseas than reduce bills here
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  2860. ​@MrAlb3rtazzo maybe investors should consider themselves lucky if they break even? Is it realistic to assume that every enterprise will be so wildly successful, it covers it's running costs and supports a substantial passive income?
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  2861. and austerity. Don't forget yet more austerity 🙁
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  2862.  @beachboy13600  Have you seen Boris? He doesn't even have the decency to make Fascism look snappy!
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  2863. and is the damaging revelation that Gullis did a Racism, or that he secretly did a Charity?
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  2864. It's not artificial manipulation, just the natural consequences of trade barriers
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  2865. We spend less per head than France! So yes Nick, let's be more like France, and put an extra £40 billion in per year It sounds a lot,but if they can do it, why can't we?
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  2866. I don't like the price of everything growing faster than my wages do 🙁 The Tories have broken everything!
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  2867. The most dangerous myth of the Chicago economists was convincing people that free markets emerge naturally from capitalism, and can be trusted to happen The truth is that free markets are created by laws, and you need to actively maintain them to stop capital running unchecked and going critical
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  2868. Really does depend which Tory!
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  2869.  @jlhuz  they are leaving! That's why wards are short staffed
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  2870. ​ @alandavidge1273  Yep! The Boris Loyalists are the ones who deep down know how useless they are, and that they'll never be ministers under anybody else
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  2871. ​ @MCDONALD6969 so you're saying 35.6% of workers need to be paid more?
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  2872.  @MCDONALD6969  that for 35.6% of workers, their pay is so low, it doesn't even hit the threshold to pay tax. That sounds like they are underpaid to me
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  2873.  @MCDONALD6969  let's contextualise low-skill - does it add value to the organisation?
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  2874. @MCDONALD6969  is that true? We seem to have a never-ending recruitment issue in many low paid sectors - care, especially
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  2875. I believe Labour will deliver on their manifesto, but that said, Labour are offering very little It's easy to achieve 100% when you set a low bar!
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  2876. Look at you, moaning about the weather! And they say people don't integrate into UK culture 😁
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  2877. I wonder if we need to share leadership across more people? Having a single person above everyone else does seem to attract narcissists and egotists If all the cabinet were all equals, would you get a better kind of person attracted to the executive?
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  2878. Poland tried, and it was an expensive failure there
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  2879. Change the backing track, so there's a reason to change the lyrics
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  2880. Slowly these things are starting to catch on 🙂
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  2881. "Mickey Mouse" implies something that does nothing - not sure what we should call a degree that actively blew a multi-billion pound hole in the economy!
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  2882. and for peace, prosperity, international influence...
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  2883. At the risk of being a bit rude and cheeky, insane idiocy seems to be a Tory thing nowadays!
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  2884. Sure, because Argentina is doing so well under Milei...
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  2885. @Exanto777  all good, as long as modernisation makes things better, rather than like Thames Water!
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  2886. Only another 44 years to wait!
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  2887.  @Alex-cw3rz  set up a centre in France, and your case for calling small boats illegal becomes a lot stronger That ECHR that gets talked about so much? Won't have any issues with calling small boats illegal once a processing centre is running
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  2888. If you join the trade bloc without a seat at the table that sets the rules, that would be a "vassal state" We want full membership and full voting rights!
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  2889.  @hobanagerik  how it worked out is we voted UKIP in growing numbers, and they did a terrible job representing our interests in the EU
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  2890.  @hobanagerik  how did you vote in European elections, out of interest?
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  2891. ...despite having a house 5 minutes walk away 🤔
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  2892. He's missed his chance - Starmer has a queue of loyalists to reward first...
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  2893.  @darrencartledge6530  sounds like we need a publicly run care sector!
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  2894. We could be like Australia and pay nurses about twice as much as they are currently paid in the UK!
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  2895. The people who argued for Brexit are fair game though, especially when they come up with gems like the IMF is a left wing conspiracy!
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  2896. The government own the rail network and part of most train companies. Shapps and his department are the management here!
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  2897.  @aland155  his platform has changed significantly from the election manifesto, and the general public has not had a chance to vote on the changed platform for his party They have voted in the local elections though, and while you can't assume local results will map to national results, they don't support the argument that people support Sunak!
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  2898. Support you country's descision to be a member of the European community. It's the patriotic thing to do. Are you a patriot?
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  2899. ​ @mobsiesixsixsix9785 the LibDems can be called conservative on economics - there's a reason they're sometimes known as the NIMBY party
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  2900. It doesn't make sense if you want to grow the economy, but it does offer a few last opportunities to sell off the few bits that haven't been sold, grab the money and run 🙁
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  2901. Don't see why data centres have to be in the south. In the day job, I see massive amounts of data bunged across the Atlantic. In data terms, the other end of the country is basically next door
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  2902.  @chatham43  so can I count on you to stand for open and honest debate on the issue?
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  2903. Review all those PFI contracts for sure. If they aren't delivering value for money, get rid!
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  2904. We can't even nationalise anything. We are a million miles from anything even slightly resembling communism!
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  2905. Short answer is Labour would handle it. The Tories only managed to deal with 4% of applications. The massive backlog is why they are now having to book hotels Get the checks done and deported can be deported rather than stay in hotels. Sometimes the solution is that obvious
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  2906. ​ @Nickle314  NHS funding isn't vast. It's slightly below average for a developed nation
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  2907. @Nickle  staight up wrong, the numbers are out there But if you're saying delaying treatment is false economy, because it costs more in the long run, absolutely agree! We should put the money in now to get on top of that. Better for patients, and cheaper in the long run!
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  2908. @Nickle  we spend less per head than Switzerland We spend less per head than the Netherlands So many people ask "why can't the NHS be more like health care in the Netherlands and Switzerland?" We need to spend more money then!
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  2909. @Nickle  I am using World Health Organisation data, and Switzerland spends twice what we do per head Did you account for the franchise, and any costs over the excess when you did your estimate?
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  2910.  @RaRa-eu9mw  so true. The real cost is corrupt cronies at the top - talentless numpties who's only qualification is going to school with other corrupt talentless numpties Sack them all - there's no shortage of hard working people who will happily do those jobs for less!
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  2911. What can the inquiry tell us that we don't already know?
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  2912.  @alanmckay7040  the report was about supporting victims so more feel confident to come forward and make a report We don't need an inquiry to tell us that the horrific crime is horrible, and we should send the people responsible to jail
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  2913. It's not that hard though, if you are honest, and stick to things you have personal experience of 😉
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  2914. ​ @michael-vl1mn by embedding corporate authoritarianism into their very structure, at least Reform are consistent between internal structure and manifesto!
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  2915. @Ginger Ali  a far right mindset blames minorities for everything, especially for problems actually created by the far right leaders themselves. It's scapegoating over problem solving
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  2916. Habib is still a Truss fan? Even after the billions the minibudget lost?
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  2917.  @isabellewhite3505  It's a powerful thing, that petition. Truss is sticking her fingers in her ears and pretending she can't hear us, but it keeps growing anyway! I bet Tory backbenchers are seeing it, even if Truss refuses to!
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  2918. We definitely need change, although that's not the way I'd recommend - if Jim and John form the New Neo Not Fascist Honest Party, should they get funding? Clearly not, but how do you exclude them without excluding the Greens? Two ideas worth considering are tying funding to the votes gained last time - excludes extremists, but gives a small party reason to call for votes even if they're not going to win The other is to set aside a pot of public money, and each registered citizen can donate it to a political party or a registered charity In both cases, no donations allowed outside of that system Both exclude extremists, while also excluding megadonors. Shame the big two will never support a change of system...
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  2919. ​ @adambinnie1332 Tories know what a woman is, and women know not to be alone with a Tory
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  2920.  @eightiesmusic1984  have they even voted yet? I haven't seen the results of a vote
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  2921. I thought deregulation was a Tory thing?
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  2922. Should we not ask who they intend to deliver for?
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  2923. I am now firmly against it. The weasels already like to hide from the public We don't want to give politicians from any party more excuses to hide!
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  2924. Of course "Take back control" isn't done - the real "Take back control" was a Tory dictatorship controlling all of us...
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  2925. If you mean "criminal", they can already be deported If you mean "the wrong colour", you know where you can shove that ideology!
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  2926. Not one of them would champion nationalising public utilities. None of them are left wing!
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  2927. Are words like 'delivered' and 'managed' Tory euphemisms for 'shafted'?
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  2928. I can argue no. If the Tories got the votes they got in 2024, but a Social Democratic Labour on 2024 matched the votes Labour did in 2019, we would have a Social Democratic Labour government now
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  2929. Ford won't pay your bill, but Shell loves taking your money
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  2930. First they laugh at us, then they fight us, then we win
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  2931. They are leaving. What will we do once they've all left?
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  2932. and there's a growing Green campaign in towns with a younger population, like Liverpool and Sheffield I can't see why Starmer and Labour aren't moving to PR now on their terms, rather than wait to be squeezed!
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  2933. May we soon recreate that moment of Jacob losing an election on the national stage!
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  2934. You get a formal warning for unprofessional language, not an instant dismissal
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  2935. @Mike  only if it was down the chain, and would qualify as bullying. Even then it would have to be sustained, rather than a one off event Anything up the chain would have to be remarkably offensive to be more than a formal warning. As someone who was hot-headed in my earlier years, I can speak from experience on that one!
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  2936.  @diogorodrigues747  what's wages got to do with wealth? You don't get rich on a wage, even a good one!
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  2937. Petra De Sutter, Deputy PM of Belgium, has called for sanctions on Isreal I am glad somebody in office has finally said it!
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  2938. It's as real as government 🙂
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  2939. If anyone else did libel while on duty, they would be sacked Why hasn't she been sacked?
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  2940.  @Matt-vp6eq  depends what you're staring at! If you want to understand what's going on in our economy, there's better learning available on social media than any documentary I've seen on the BBC
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  2941.  @LiveFromLondon2  sure, where should I look?
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  2942.  @LiveFromLondon2  That is definitely a concern, and something that needs addressing (but does seem to be being taken more seriously than the revolving door between the Square Mile and Westminster, at least!) I don't see how that's relevant to the terms offered for the TCA though?
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  2943. Are the people responsible still in a position to cause further harm? They appear to still be there, so no moving on yet
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  2944. ​ @bobhill4364 if you don't want to talk about wealth inequality, should we talk about earning inequality instead? Are the people earning the most really 100 or 1000 times more useful and productive than the lowest paid? Should some people properly earn a bigger share of the enterprise they contribute to, and others take a bit less?
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  2945.  @natenae8635  I don't 🙁 I have seen the figures, but they just lumped it all together, I haven't found somewhere that breaks it down to the exact treatment that has been outsourced
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  2946.  @cupguin  but if we vote Labour, then isn't that going to be interpreted as a confirmation they should keep doing what they are currently doing? It's especially galling when Boris proved levelling up and similar ideas are hugely popular with the public. Sure, we know he's a liar, so it was an empty promise Nonetheless, in 2019 both Labour and Tory we're campaigning on ending austerity. It's what people want. Why has Starmer backed away from that? If we are voting Labour, the least we need to do is indicate it is despite their changes since 2019, not because of them
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  2947. Soar... and then crash again. It's wildly volatile
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  2948. What makes a good candidate? We know what Labour doesn't value It doesn't value popularity with the membership It doesn't value electability with the public It doesn't value trade union backing It doesn't value people with a proven record of creating jobs and improving the economy of their area It does love people who hang around with hedge funds and right wing press barons though 🤔
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  2949. I think they want all their measures to "stop the boats" to fail, so they can justify escalating their authoritarian power grab...
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  2950. @Bessie Hillum I am sure he'd love to talk to people who understand how money works, but sadly he's stuck talking to our Tory government instead
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  2951. ​ @highburys  I hope we do train more here, but that's a slow fix. First we need to hire the staff to do the training, and the facilities too. Then the students get trained - it's best part of a decade before you see a difference In the meanwhile, immigration is the only way to cover vacancies we need filling today
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  2952.  @raymondbullock4557  and yet, despite this claim that they could have found better deal if they had more time, they refused the offered deadline extension Methinks they didn't have a better idea, else they would have taken the extension and negotiated this better deal!
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  2953.  @raymondbullock4557  Then Frost is really thick. Nothing had been signed, so no commitment made by May and her team was final. If they knew they wanted a different direction, the time to say so is before they signed everything off as binding commitments!
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  2954.  @raymondbullock4557  I don't remember the EU changing Barniers mandate. AFAIK their red lines were the same when Frost stepped in as when it all began
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  2955. Wind and solar power is great though - cost is falling every year, and Vlad can't cut off the wind and the sun!
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  2956. The BoE would stop with ineffectual monetary policy if the Tories had effective fiscal policy. In the absence of government action the BoE has to try with the only tool it has available
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  2957.  @joycegibbs5267  but what did they get arrested for? Nobody has been able to tell me
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  2958. I suspect it will be Streeting taking over - unless he also doesn't get elected 🤔
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  2959. Stewart wanted to put time and money into making things better, which was an unacceptable distraction from hogging the gravy train 🙁
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  2960. Where is the EU at fault? They gave options, and at every step of the way respected Frostie's choice. Can't blame Barnier for Frostie having no idea what he really wants!
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  2961.  @dollydiddums7889  How many days of food do you have stockpiled, if all the supermarkets were shut for two weeks?
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  2962.  @dollydiddums7889  definitely getting mixed messages from you here
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  2963. Why can't both be true?
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  2964. It weren't the left that started the purges and burned the bridges
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  2965. It's not subliminal...
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  2966. Sadly they are already hammering the "not quite as hard austerity" button like their life depends on it 🙁
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  2967. Anna says everyone should look after themselves and not rely on hangouts I would hope she is 100% behind people striking for fair pay so they can look after themselves, but have a horrible suspicion she isn't...
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  2968. ​ @Nickle314  Tourism isn't a great test. Lots of places are safe if you stay in the resort, but not so much out in regular society!
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  2969.  @robertbarrett2494  lacking both common sense and empathy
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  2970. ​ @nuttall47 Starmer says what his donors want to hear
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  2971. Depends how you plan to end it. If you end it by empowering Putin...
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  2972.  @iankelly8666  so let's go for a nordic social democracy. Seems to be the best balance anyone has found so far (They do have quite a lot of common ownership!)
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  2973.  @darthkek1953  we need to stop voting for corrupt idiots then!
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  2974. @susan curtis  it's not given away, it's shared. The lone black sheep is weak, families are strong. I don't want to be the black sheep of Europe, and I am far from alone. We're organising, and supporting each other. Do you feel supported by the people you've sided with?
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  2975.  @susancurtis1651  and I stand with Gary on this one
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  2976.  @susancurtis1651  I won't demand a reply, but some numbers to back that up would be nice, along with the source of the numbers Like I said, opinions are allowed, but if you want to call something a fact, hold yourself to a higher standard 🙂
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  2977.  @susancurtis1651  almost all UK tech was bought out by US companies, and a lot of our power generation is owned by China
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  2978. He's a well-meaning person who has swallowed a very right-wing economic textbook 🙁
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  2979. @petermach8635  Starmer has been declared unfit to be a member of the Haldane society, so the left wing of the legal profession have basically disowned him Hardly suprising, when his cabinet consistently go for a very Thatcherite policy of outsourcing as much as possible to private companies, regardless of any evidence that this will be more expensive than keeping services in-house!
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  2980. Only Tory members. Normal people don't trust him
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  2981.  @tonygange7636  we love our country too much to leave it in the hands of people like you
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  2982.  @neyson220293  I guess the damage she is doing to the Tory brand is some small consolation for the damage she is doing to the nation
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  2983. ​ @mrlegkick91  I don't like JP Morgan Goldman Sachs etc much either, but what can we do about them?
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  2984.  @mrlegkick91  you do know people of many ethnicities and faiths work in finance and banking, yeah? Or are you the one making prejudiced assumptions?
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  2985.  @Haflafbaf  but that's exactly the plan with the bonfire of regulations bill!
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  2986. @martinsingfield  but which is more disruptive - a few days of strike action, or staff going elsewhere, permanently? Ideally a negotiation will be settled without strike action, but if discussion fails to resolve concerns, one option is clearly less disruptive than the other
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  2987. so we should process their applications, then they can get jobs and contribute!
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  2988. Anyone else remember when spring elections were normal? A spring election would be normal again!
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  2989.  @Game_Hero  but everyone who stays will be getting what they voted for, so they'll be happy, yeah? The people who leave are happy, the people who stay are happy. Everybody wins!
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  2990. @Game_Hero  true, but the people who want those things are all leaving, so the people staying will be getting what they want. They should be super happy!
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  2991.  @cujimmi  we should all be paid enough to life decently, and people with a lot of responsibility should be paid more Being in charge of a train is quite a lot of responsibility
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  2992. ​ @keithparker1346 it needs to be pretty high to support our old people. I want old people to have a good quality of life, which means we need enough young people to keep everything running
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  2993. You can spend and invest your wsy out of recession though - this has a vastly better track record than austerity!
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  2994. If you give the rich even more money, all they do is buy houses and make homes even harder to buy for ordinary people 🙁
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  2995.  @trident6547  We need to scrap FPTP first! If we split the Labour Party while elections are still FPTP, it will be Tory rule forever ☹️
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  2996.  @user-rb3jw7yj9o  indeed, but that's concentrated money as much as any local statutes. The banks and hedge funds outside the City are just as bad as the ones inside!
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  2997. Dublin definitely wants to avoid a return to the troubles!
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  2998.  @adamrules01  and wages to match. Costs are no big deal if everyone can afford them
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  2999.  @adamrules01  Norway has welfare, and it does have wealth redistribution, but it's so built into the fabric of society most people don't think about it
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  3000.  @adamrules01  what does "generating wealth" look like? I see people use it a lot, but I've just realised I really don't know what it means!
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  3001. All depends on whether Sunak can get through the Northern Ireland deal, the May local elections and the budget without causing a fatal rebellion He's going to be very busy firefighting!
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  3002. Definitely agree that the genuine threats are getting lost in the noise of people crying wolf when they have to answer calm and reasonable quesrions from people
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  3003. ​ @simonf7367  deflation is bad, because it makes everything cheaper tomorrow When everything is cheaper tomorrow, only the bare minimum of essentials get bought today. It stagnates the whole economy, and harms a lot of people
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  3004. ​ @joananthony6323 💚
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  3005. Less "neoliberal austerity"? You do realise Cameron and Osborne were elected by the British public? We did that to ourselves, all by ourselves
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  3006. @Betweoxwitegan  but there's no point in bolting the doors if the scary phone call was made from inside the house
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  3007. @Betweoxwitegan but we are also inside the house!
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  3008. @Betweoxwitegan don't point this at me, you set the house on fire...
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  3009. ​ @marksavage1108 exactly this. The NHS was good under Blair's Labour - but there's an obvious way it could have been even better still
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  3010. Defending what he's told without shame or hesitation is basically all Philp does. If he didn't, he'd be even more of a nobody than he already is
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  3011. ​ @TheBTC  but the EU never required unlimited migration! Freedom of movement allows European citizens to live anywhere in Europe, but they have to be able to support themselves So you need savings or a job - you don't qualify for benefits outside of your home nation Really sensible system really, especially if you're not a fan of red tape!
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  3012.  @lewis123417  education is free, but not healthcare and that free isn't "free" - they are paying taxes while they are here Education is one of the few sectors outside of the Square Mile where we still make money. Can we not wreck this one as well!
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  3013.  @lewis123417  but what's the alternative? Having empty streets because everyone's moving away to find work?
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  3014. Replace rubber boats with proper ferries
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  3015.  @TheoriginalANGEK439  where's the waste? If they are legitimate, they'll want work as soon as they are allowed to, and will earn their own keep. We have open vacancies across most of the country right now!
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  3016. I thought the billions were for sending a mere 100 people to Rwanda?
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  3017. ​@elisabethohagan9089 even if it was accidental, it does remind me that a lot of them are sick in the head!
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  3018.  @rjfrjf6121  but lets entirely hypothetically pretend that Shell is funding the IEA What are protesters going to do that they haven't already done outside shell HQ?
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  3019.  @roccoparks  A Labour Mayor who gets his budget from central government. He is being screwed over by the Tories in Westminster
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  3020. @vonder7  sounds like they should vote for a better government then 🙂
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  3021. We Deserve Better isn't targeting every seat, it's focusing effort on a very small number of seats It's very FPTP-aware
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  3022. I am sure many people are all ears about how else rail workers can encourage the rail bosses to raise wages! What's the plan?
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  3023.  @bingbong6467  I don't know! I want to hear more details
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  3024. Labour need to do something. Sadly what they are actually trying is more reviews, reports and focus groups, so they won't even have started actually doing anything for many years yet 🙁
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  3025. Very true. If we are going to stabilise the economy we have to expect greatly reduced dividends
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  3026. The "party of freedom", but their main policies are all "banning things" 🤔
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  3027. They are both going to be cliched and boring - this will be one of the most disinterested and apathetic elections ever There's a real chance for smaller parties to make an impact if they make positive noises in suitable places!
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  3028.  @albertgriffith5801  so are you saying WFH should be personal choice when there's no logistical reason preventing it?
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  3029.  @albertgriffith5801  you compared WFH to smoking, and say we should let individuals decide for themselves on smoking. I assumed since you linked WFH and smoking, the same personal choice should apply to both?
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  3030. Why not? They chose to fill the role previously done by the council
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  3031. I don't get anyone who is OK with NATO but worries about the EU standardising their defence forces. What's the difference?
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  3032. Well, I hope they heard the response!
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  3033. ​ @blackhavaianas we've only got close to those levels recently. It's going to take more than a couple of years of properly funded government to fix a decade and a half of austerity!
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  3034. @quinkana1  there's plenty of money, but Labour refuse to go out and tax it. If we taxed unproductive wealth, we could fix things, Atlee-Bevan style
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  3035.  @garyb455  I know, right? Yet our government, supposedly educated at elite schools and universities, is really struggling with this 😳
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  3036. I really hope Biden picks a really strong person to be future Vice President, that's all I want to say here...
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  3037. ​ @bobhill4364 but what incentive is there for landlords to work, if they can literally do nothing and get paid? To achieve the society you aspire to, you'll need radical changes to incentivise work and disincentivise focusing on passive income
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  3038.  @Funintherain13  something needs to change. If wages can't go up, then the cost of living, especially the cost of housing, needs to come down!
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  3039. ​ @eliakimjosephsophia4542 Daily Mail readers are going to be a bit surprised when the real results come in!
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  3040. ​ @chrisj9700 he has shares in Infosys, which still operates in Russia, including government contracts
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  3041. ​ @kityhawk2000 honestly this is the problem with UK politics. We have two big parties chasing the same, narrow group of heavily focus-grouped swing voters. I'd rather see a range of parties representing a range of policies, so there is an interesting, meaningful choice!
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  3042. Might tempt more people into the profession and solve the staff shortfall too!
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  3043.  @terrysmith5168  Maybe they were full?
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  3044. @Dan H  state owned doesn't have to imply it's managed at the highest level. Lots of state systems were managed by local councils rather than Westminster, before everything got privatised My key point has been made though, that there's a lot of flavours and options to discuss. I like to break people out of the binary thinking of Capitalism or Stalinism, and that's been achieved 🙂
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  3045.  @cryptocsguy9282  I can't disagree about education. I think the Tories know this too - that's why they underfund it and micromanage it with old fashioned ideas of education. People with a broad education don't buy their financially illiterate sales pitch! I do worry about how mass share ownership scales though. If everyone's investing, who is doing the work in the underlying economy that investing depends on?
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  3046.  @cryptocsguy9282  how do you stop the top few getting exponentially more powerful though? If you build society around investments, anyone with an early advantage will compound it until they are untouchable It becomes almost impossible for people to catch up
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  3047.  @cryptocsguy9282  A certain amount of hierarchy is inevitable, but once it become rigid across generations you see problems Currently inherited wealth lets talentless idiots steer society more than our best and brightest. Mad thing is, wealthy people are generally pretty miserable and depressed, so nobody wins under this system The whole idea is quite crazy
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  3048.  @jennkellie7341  but we already have pump storage hydro, and plenty more hills and mountains if more is needed!
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  3049.  @diorocks5858  if we want investment, then tax incentives need to be conditional on investment happening Liz's tax cuts are going to disappear straight into tax havens
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  3050. Can you imagine the Daily Mail headlines if they were given big detached houses in Buckinghamshire?
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  3051. What makes you assume his isn't "involved in politics"? There's more to politics than party membership
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  3052.  @hemtet5500  maybe OP stumbled into one of my pet bugbears, but it annoys me when people assume only MPs do politics, and democracy is something that only happens on one day every 4-5 years. I believe we'd be in a better place as a country if those assumptions changed 🙂
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  3053.  @jeffsimon9594  whatever, mum 😝
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  3054. ​ @blackhavaianas if I only needed to cover 40% of the price of a house, I'd be extremely happy!
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  3055.  @martinrye712  to take Germany as an example, they need an alternative gas supply, they get experts and funding on it quickly to tackle the problem The Tories offer a new slogan... ☹
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  3056. The country has a problem, and the country has the resources for a solution Joining those dots is just common sense!
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  3057. ​ @boudicca3845  but we've already made everything into UK law. Jacob isn't talking about rewriting our laws, he wants to drop them completely
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  3058.  @boudicca3845  then he needs to crack on and start looking, because he's barely named any yet, and there's thousands to look at!
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  3059.  @boudicca3845  He can still work through them from the back bench! Start putting those lists together - name which ones are good and should stay, and which need to go There's nothing stopping him doing that
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  3060.  @boudicca3845  if he can't roll up his sleeves and get stuck in, why should anyone else?
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  3061. @loc4725  not sure where you got that idea from! LVT is definitely an option I'd like to see explored
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  3062.  @loc4725  it comes down to a choice - who makes the investment descisions for society? A government with a democratic mandate, or private wealth? We have observed what private wealth does when investing, and with extremely rare exception they invest to consolidate and strengthen their personal wealth and power If we don't want an oligarchy, we need to tax wealth that is only being used to maximise rent seeking, and invest it to make society prosperous instead. All options should be considered, except for continuing as we are, because this clearly isn't working!
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  3063.  @loc4725  but the New Deal stimulated the economy because it was redistributive Putting purchasing power in the hands of more people was fundamental to it's success. If they just built lots of bridges without paying those bridge builders well, it wouldn't have been a success
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  3064.  @loc4725  but we have historic examples that show it can be done, if actively managed with coordinated policy If unqualified people make a mess of economic policy, where skilled people have succeeded, that shows we need capable people, not that it is impossible to do such policies
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  3065.  @loc4725  or we could both listen more to etremely qualified economists. I'd recommend Mariana Mazzucato and Joseph Stiglitz. I am sure there are others too
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  3066. ​@TheFeministReview the only other way I can think of will take a few decades to make a difference to the working population. I have nothing against that option, but can we wait that long?
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  3067. That's a bit unfair - he's also sold out to homegrown private medical investors too!
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  3068.  @KevC1234  and is there any evidence she was letting it out at any point?
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  3069. The ERG backed Truss, too. That's not at all reassuring!
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  3070. ​ @meggrotte4760 the problem with the last 40 years is it did mostly work, but only for a few Now, it's not going to work for anyone, but those few will still hog whatever prosperity is left standing after the decline
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  3071. It's almost like lockdowns and vaccines help? 🤔
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  3072. I am also curious about the answer! Patiently waiting 😉
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  3073.  @aspinorl  JoB spent just short of 10 minutes standing up for human rights, and Wiston Churchills legacy, so they are some of the British Values JoB means Are you against human rights, and against Churchill and his legacy?
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  3074. ​@akastewart broadly, but with nuance Like their shouldn't be wealth taxes on non-UK wealth, but if you use that capital to buy UK assets then there will be transaction taxes on that, and could be wealth taxes on that asset
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  3075. ​ @bigbinji6145 misogynists can't tell the difference either, so 🤷‍♂️
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  3076. The Green party knew about it too, and proposed a wealth tax to start fixing it!
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  3077.  @terrysmith5168  it absolutely speaks volumes about your ideology
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  3078. The solar system one was pretty nifty, but not £500 a head nifty...
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  3079. So true. Even after appointing a minister for common sense, they struggle to find any!
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  3080. ​ @middleman9183 In Labour also fail, start looking seriously at the Greens
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  3081.  @kanedNunable  don't dismiss a carefully placed protest vote! Look at how much influence UKIP had, despite a near total lack of electoral success in Westminster If you are in a Labour safe seat, but worry that Labour are being too conservative, definitely consider a Green protest vote
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  3082.  @eddiecalderone  depends on the views. Should we tolerate people who think sewage in rivers is OK?
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  3083. @eddiecalderone  the Greens are hardly going to be pro fossil fuel, that's just common sense! The Green Party are not XR or JSO though
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  3084. We might be waiting a long time!
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  3085. The rich have been terrible at making investment descisions. They've had 40 years to prove they (don't) know what they're doing, and enough is enough Time for democracy to take over the investment plans!
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  3086. Why not? There's good jobs available maintaining them, and it brings down electricity bills
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  3087. More EU, less Tories. There's more detail than that, but I think that's a solid summary of what we need 🙂
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  3088. @Mater Suspiriorum  Austerity was a political choice, and a bad one in two ways Firstly, you need to invest in productive activity when the economy is struggling. Otherwise you just maintain the weak performance forever Secondly, you need to target the fat left in society if you do go for austerity. Banking and finance benefited before the crash, caused the crash, could best afford to pay for the recovery from the crash, but got off scott free The Tory "solution" is why everything is so broken now!
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  3089.  @tjenadonn6158  Theresa May now feels really sad about how quickly history has forgotten her 😁
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  3090. ​ @TanyaJackson-no2rs There's Novara, and while they are doing a great job growing an audience, they are still tiny compared to the billionaire backed juggernauts on the right
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  3091. @skyblaze eterno  I can't see a single issue party working for PR, but a coalition of parties outside the big two, plus unaligned activists already exists. It's a question of how organised we can be, and how well the inter-party diplomacy is managed Not trivial problems, but the urgency and commitment is only growing
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  3092. We have entire villages standing empty in some places. We are not short of houses, but we do have an insanely broken housing market
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  3093. and the Bank of England 'only' needed £65 Billion to shore it up...
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  3094. They need to do that so they can say "told you so" when they do the bailout and then demand more austerity 🙁
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  3095. Insulate Britain is the answer. We use less power every winter, which opposes Putins agenda and opposes climate change AND as a bonus those protesters have no cause to glue themselves to roads any more! Everyone wins 😁
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  3096.  @martinspencer1618  feel free to move to the big cities and work there, too or not, but then don't complain if companies hire the people who will move there
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  3097. ​ @twisteddancer7773 but the evidence you cited to show that they exist, also proves that they get caught Now if only dealing with government fraud was so easy to do!
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  3098.  @Movies4evaa  maybe executive wages and share dividends need to be trimmed a bit? Had to claim that everything is running well so they deserve it...
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  3099. The problem with Greece is massive corruption. That's going to sink your economy, in or out of any political union
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  3100. also because they've been asleep on the job and left it too late. Training people takes time, but importing is quick (assuming trained people are out there, and can be tempted to come here rather than somewhere else) Typical backfooted Tory panic policies
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  3101.  @mcmustangno1567  😁
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  3102. Tories used to do interviews. They are too scared now!
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  3103. ​ @andrewlong6438  not for free - thoae server farms aren't cheap! The recent AI rollouts are a loss leader for market capture. They don't make sense otherwise
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  3104. ​ @sirmeowthelibrarycat  I guess you'd have to fabricate a person who doesn't exist, so you get a double payment Sounds a lot harder than fudging yourself up a category or two in the current beurocracy!
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  3105. Trump is intelligence
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  3106. about as well as it did when Truss tried that kind of thinking...
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  3107. ​ @philwill0123  this is where our media is. A beer and a curry after work is a bigger scandal than billions spent on useless crony contracts while hundreds of thousands die Our journalists are a disgrace to journalism
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  3108. Try your passport at the EU border. The UK is out!
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  3109. All this talk of giving everyone an automatic share, and resisting the rich elite sounds a bit Marxist Commie to me...
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  3110. The Labour Party have turned into the Tory Party while the Tories are trying to be more UKIP than UKIP are...
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  3111.  @Verity98765  I agree Labour are still left of any Tory manifesto I am aware of, but the difference can be pretty slim. In Norway or Sweden the current Labour economic position would put them centre right
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  3112.  @britnatzaredemocracydenier5922  for me, they have one job. Surely they can manage one thing?
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  3113. Problem is they only ever appear in public for "special occasions". While a funeral is especially sensitive, it's always someone's wedding or remembrance when they show their faces If we wait for a neutral time to tell them what we think in person from the crowd, that day will never come
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  3114.  @Jamie-uk2zh  yet the UK and France are both wealthy countries So where is the money?
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  3115.  @geoffpoole483  Like I said, they did do something! Just they made it harsher rather than fix it...
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  3116. YouTube is odd about links, but if you Google Jamie Driscoll you'll find links to the Go Fund Me 🙂
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  3117. But they're going to start attracting dubious claimants - if your claim is ruled invalid, you now get a 3k relocation package on deportation!
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  3118. Maybe she needs to cut back on cheese sandwiches?
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  3119. ...or succeeded, depending on whether you think it was incompetence, or corruption
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  3120. The USA pulls the IMF strings, not the EU
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  3121.  @markwilkie3677  yes
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  3122.  @RichieBedfellows  it was called Socialist Alternatives if you want to research the history yourself
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  3123. I agree - it's not a protest vote, it's a strategic vote
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  3124.  @LeeCharles1993  unmanaged and chaotic immigration? Just keep voting Tory!
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  3125. We just want people to contribute to the upkeep of the society they live in If you don't want to help pay the bills, feel free to leave!
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  3126. The French made a choice! Hopefully less extreme paths are available for making choices nowadays
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  3127. ​ @RobinHarris-nf4yv the IFS have said that about every party If they're all fantasy, I'll pick the fantasy that gives me hope!
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  3128. Based on the manifestos so far, it does look like Labour and the LibDems are fighting to be the successor in the centre right, which would give the Green party an opportunity to expand into the void on the left
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  3129. ​ @cynthiamorris1874 what left wing? There's barely any in parliament, and fewer in the media!
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  3130.  @cynthiamorris1874  I'm not seeing many socialists in parliament or the media. It's a constant effort to try and get attention in politics and the press!
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  3131.  @mydogeatspuke  Maybe they should try it? That smirk at the end told us more about what the Government really thinks than hours of dry, staged managed interviews ever have!
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  3132. I hear what you're saying, but I think he's already exactly where he should be 🙂
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  3133. ​ @joepaluka9031 we all should decide, based on evidence and measurable actions
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  3134. Aren't the Neolibs more known for using "socialist" as a slur? Neolibs generally deny that the far right is even real
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  3135. If they continue with austerity we aren't going to be growing
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  3136.  @helendancelot  but like zoran said, if you obsess about trans folk, you're more often demonising victims than stopping perpetrators. It's a distraction from efforts that actually improve safety
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  3137. @J j  on Ireland, wrong way around. Ireland said they didn't like the terms, better terms were agreed, so the vote passed for the improved deal. The vote changed because they had changed what they were voting for
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  3138. @J j  you can go read both versions if you like, although it's dense, dull treaty words It's an interesting insight into social change, just how much they cared about abortion then compared to now. I doubt the modern RoI would risk it's place in the EU over abortion controls!
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  3139. ​@williampennjr.4448 you think companies care about their customers? They want to monopolise and trap their customers. If a company is forced to care about quality and satisfaction, it's despite capitalism, not because of it
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  3140.  @johnhickton7944  History isn't over. I have a brighter, happier future to look forward to, when we Rejoin the greatest family of nations the world has ever known 🙂
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  3141.  @vanrutgar6536  the dream is to be a happy, prosperous nation. Money isn't everything, but it's going to be hard to achieve if we're collectively skint!
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  3142.  @thegrandmuftiofwakanda  everything is better as a team. Agriculture will benefit, manufacturing will benefit, financial and legal will benefit... it's hard to find a line of work that doesn't benefit from working together with no barriers between us However you earn a living, whatever you want to do, it's easier inside. Why would you want to be alone and cut off?
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  3143.  @thegrandmuftiofwakanda  yes,there's other nations out there, including some big, powerful ones that are very much looking after themselves. How do you think negotiations between lonely UK and America, or China are going to go? Inside the EU we can sit at the table. Outside, we will just be told to sit
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  3144. ​@DropdudeJohn how does privatising put more money in? Whether we pay insurance or tax, we pay it. There's no pile of free money waiting to be unlocked So changing how we pay is just a distraction from the real issue. We just need to put more money in
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  3145. You do know Labour have only been the government for a few days? Before that, it wasn't Labour blocking Gove from passing bills!
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  3146.  @johnhickton7944  Italy does have a lot of fraud and corruption, but that's an Italian issue, not an EU-wide one!
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  3147.  @benfulford3943  oh yes, we must never forget all the newspapers and thinktanks who hailed Truss and Kwarteng as the greatest thing ever... until it exploded Next time any of those newspapers and thinktanks hail their new greatest thing ever, let's all remember Trussonomics
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  3148.  @wanderer1955  The EU thinks the Tories are a joke, not the UK. The Tories are a sick joke, one that isn't very funny
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  3149. It commonly happens on smaller channels. Now they are getting massively ratioed on bigger channels, they are trying their luck on smaller ones... Which brings traffic and boosts smaller channels up. Oops? 😁
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  3150. I have seen several people try and do that already
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  3151.  @DilanPerera1  Democracy didn't stop in 2016! People can keep campaigning, and new elections and referendums will happen History isn't over
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  3152.  @DilanPerera1  what do you mean respect? Do we need to stop calling it rude names?
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  3153. That's what communities should do for the people who will be our future
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  3154. @Tony Dick  by mostly trading with countries near them, and trying to reduce trade barriers with said countries Right now, we are trying to trade with countries on the other side of the world, while increasing local barriers I suspect Japan's government will be proven to be better at international trade than our government
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  3155.  @avikillzkids5986  You can do that, but ferries are far less hassle if you have the option
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  3156.  @avikillzkids5986  That's legal advice, to the extent I can offer it as an unqualified person
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  3157.  @davidhodgson3901  aren't you tired of your only choice being which colour your austerity and privatisation comes in? I am voting tactically to get the Tories out, while also getting behind any campaign that might make the Labour executive wake up and stop the austerity and privatisation!
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  3158.  @johnrussell3961  do we even have UK companies any more? As far as exporting to America goes, we mostly have UK branches of international companies. If they tariffed and blocked everything , what would we actually lose?
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  3159.  @Happychappy444  full agreement on sorting out the disaster of private water!
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  3160. @UCuanE5sIqOvfA_hKAEdYgNg The energy sector got really weird though. There's only one national grid, and some kind of market for who feeds into it, but not a free market as prices were locked So the competition was about who could process your billing paperwork 🤷‍♂️
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  3161. That is what they are doing, really. They are just giving Amazon chance to give them a better offer before they hand their notice in permanently!
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  3162. ​ @glyngreen538 I am starting to think the purge might be a blessing in disguise. It's forced the left to find a proper heartland rather than get lost inside the big tent 🙂
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  3163.  @matthewrice3432  Rule 34?
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  3164. ​ @williamproffitt6688  Mistakes happen most when people are overworked and tired They are striking in part to improve recruitment and retention, so they are not so overworked and tired Paying better wages saves lives
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  3165.  @williamproffitt6688  the market disagrees, and staff are voting with their feet
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  3166. ​@VPhantom-rf3qo firstly, tax assets. Can't move that house to a tax haven! Second, embrace at least 5% inflation as a deliberate policy choice. Make sure wages keep pace so ordinary people don't see a change in living standards Meanwhile, that wealth stashed in the tax haven is losing purchasing power. The longer it's hiding, the more power it loses
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  3167. Opening with a blatant lie? At least he started as he means to go on!
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  3168. They do, but those protests never make the news
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  3169. Propaganda could be described as "leading Britain's conversation" 😡
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  3170. ​ @enemywithin1295 if by "working", you mean "retired"
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  3171. What, because 20% of people vote for the isolationists? Doesn't sound like a majority to me!
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  3172. ​ @qetoun  the wealth is still sloshing around though...
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  3173. What's your union rep saying?
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  3174. True, but paying tax is cheaper than paying for US health insurance!
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  3175.  @pavelowpower  they wouldn't be striking because the recruitment and retention problem would be solved
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  3176. It's better than "Does the minister agree that the minister is really amazing at everything" softball client 'journalism'!
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  3177. We need the government to invest. We've been waiting 4 decades for the private sector to do it, and they have failed Tax them so the government can invest in infrastructure and hospitals!
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  3178.  @schrodingerscat1863  What projects? All that wealth has just been used to buy up all the houses and price ordinary people out of the market, and run shady but legal grifts like share buybacks The water infrastructure is crumbling, nobody is training anyone, and there's little to show in terms of factories and manufacturing. Where is this investment?
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  3179.  @schrodingerscat1863  got any links to the planning meeting minutes, or news articles on them? I want to know who is holding up fixes to our plumbing!
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  3180. Wonder when he'll reapply for that green card? Not much left here for a banker to stick around for
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  3181. ​ @alanchilds1456 they are not as different as I would like, but Labour are definitely better
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  3182. I've learned. I remember Blair. The Labour Party are now just the Good Cop Thatcherites to give people a false sense of security for a bit before the Bad Cop Thatcherites put the squeeze on again Can you tell me anything Blair did that wasn't undone within Cameron's first term in office?
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  3183. Would there have been a different result if Liz Truss was still Tory leader? I think so - the Tories wouldn't even be the official opposition!
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  3184. ​@theoilandgasresourceportal2132 why should working class Britons shoulder the eye watering costs of oil and gas on the international market?
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  3185. The campaign Owen Jones is backing is only targeting a handful of seats. Do you really think that will prevent a Labour majority?
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  3186. It took less than 24 hours for people outside her team to spot the problems. Is her team that thick, or did they know full well what they were really saying but hoped nobody would notice?
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  3187. Do you want the people of Clacton to have a voice, or not?
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  3188. Allow me to post to say you are wrong. You're not being "censored", I saw your post and replied to it. Relax, knowing you're not being oppressed, it's just nobody likes you
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  3189. ​@HolidayPete interesting that you bring up the military, where power is often delegated very far down the chain Turns out micromanaging people doesn't work, especially where they have direct experience that central command doesn't. In the military that management style gets lots of people killed Charge of the light brigade, anyone?
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  3190. Reeves is going to tax them more than Hunt did, but not enough to stop wealth inequality accelerating
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  3191. The unhealthy housing market that the Government desperately prop up is a big problem. Why would you take on the risks of a new business when you can just buy houses instead? That's a big part of our productivity problem
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  3192.  @bw6316  In real terms, that returns pay to the levels paid under Labour If Labour can afford it, why can't the Tories?
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  3193. Don't think he's rich, but he does have a steady crowdfunder of enthusiastic supporters who keep the lights on for his campaigning
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  3194.  @Buttsy1  honestly, the state of both of them scares me, but at least Biden has a team around him who can step in. Trump has fired anyone who would question his demands
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  3195. The savvy evil ones know all too well that's how it works. That's why they always need a scapegoat to distract people If enough people realised how much of their effort is going towards supporting idle shareholders and landlords, their gravy train is doomed
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  3196. Really? Don't they have half a year of "independent enquiry" to buy them some time?
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  3197. Turns out the EU civil service aren't a shadowy cabal plotting evil schemes, but a team doing dull but essential administration. It's only going to get worse now the Tories are cutting back the UK civil service, too 😳
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  3198. How high do mortgage payments go before you stop giving her a chance? Most people have hit that point already
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  3199. I am no Farage fan, but that's a bit extreme! Let him play with his fisher price binoculars in peace 🙂
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  3200. Which fossil fuel company do you own?
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  3201.  @Bobby-xr4bo  they are choosing the EU already - if we are going to bootstrap the country and build infrastructure we will have to work what we do still have pretty hard. There won't be room for indulgences or vanity projects!
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  3202. What the rich buy, is houses and politicians The existence of the ultra wealthy creates cost of living problems for everyone else
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  3203.  @alexdavis1541  there's more to it than that, but it's the simplest example of why "letting people get ultra rich" isn't consequence-free for everyone else
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  3204.  @jim-es8qk  If someone else is hiring, I absolutely can go work somewhere else! If bosses want to limit themselves to people who accept no WFH, then that's their hiring problem to solve, not mine 😉
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  3205. Yeah, this is what taking back control really looks like!
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  3206.  @NeonVisual  or we could just have a wealth tax and use that money to fix things 🙂
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  3207. Halfway there - what Argentina and Venezuela missed out was setting tax policy to take money out of the economy and mitigate inflation
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  3208. Right now, the risk of collapse is baked in, any policy has to be built on the crumbling foundations of weak productivity and overinflated assets We need investment from somewhere, and we clearly don't get productive investment from the current system. Continuity is the most dangerous thing we can do right now! What do you suggest we do to fix our current economic situation?
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  3209. That is a complex question, as it could be used to cut out big banks and improve accountability and transparency, or it could be used as a tool of oversight and control Short answer is it depends who sets it up, and what their priorities are
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  3210. I find that's the sort of bluster only tried by someone who doesn't actually expect to end up poor
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  3211. But if Streeting Prime is put in charge of the Streeting Clones, they would be Streeting's Streetings. Scary thought 😳
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  3212. "I am not a thief!", says thief running off with your wallet...
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  3213. They're already arrested, it's not a live problem any more
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  3214. between Lynch and Scargill I'll take Lynch 8 days a week!
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  3215. ​ @Lawrence4000-s3k if you import from a nation with low wages, then your local workforce will have to take low wages to compete (PS rejoin the EU - they protect wages better than any other bloc in the world)
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  3216. ​ @stevebrooks9119 the policy says the public is carrying the risk, but private interests take the rewards Here we go again 🙁
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  3217. ​ @UtubeRwokeLefties don't remember this happening in my lifetime. Labour have been a bit happy to let the private sector take excessive profits out of public services, but there hasn't been a Labour-triggered financial crisis in the 4-odd decades I've been alive
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  3218.  @UtubeRwokeLefties  that was an American crisis that the UK got caught up in
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  3219. ​ @rowan7658  the generations who fot us through the world wars are passed on now. The current old generation have little to no memory of the wars, being at most a child when they were being fought!
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  3220.  @georgewright9914  They aren't investing. Most of those profits are stashed in tax havens This lack of investment is why productivity is so poor
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  3221. Nonsense, Trump has always been a massive fan of Tesla, and all those actual videos showing the opposite are "fake news" obviously 🙄
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  3222. The new direction? Straight down!
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  3223. ​ @sandrafrancis3631 but we don't want everyone to switch from Labour - only people who live in the North East (who can vote for Jamie Driscoll as mayor), or Bristol (where Carla Denyer can win for the Greens with a little extra campaign support) This isn't about a protest vote everywhere - it's about focusing attention where it has a realistic chance to have an impact
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  3224.  @sandrafrancis3631  he didn't, and that's a terrible oversight on his part If you check out the campaign itself though (We Deserve Better) that's very much the plan - focus efforts where they genuinely have a chance to make an impact on UK politics
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  3225. We are far from full. Without immigration the population would be falling
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  3226. We had the referendum seven years ago, and UKIP was founded the decades ago How long do you need to find some benefits? There is no plan, and there never was
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  3227.  @menditsa  it shouldn't be, but the Tories said they won't budge If they won't negotiate, the only option remaining is replacing them! Get round the table, or open the ballot box. Either is fine
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  3228.  @menditsa  why should you accept bad pay?
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  3229.  @menditsa  what do you do? Sounds like you're all struggling!
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  3230. ​@Lee_303 people like Johnson and Sunak have assistants to deal with mundanities like bank cards!
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  3231. ​ @michakrynicki7299 and how's that national sovereignty looking if you take all your orders from Washington?
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  3232. Right now, the Tories aren't providing comfort, or safety, for anyone Moot question really
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  3233. @Adam Morgan  I think there's a lot of overlap between the anti-Corbyn movement and the Just Trust Starmer types. It's very much like a cargo cult - they assume that if they have a boring, undramatic leader, then we will automatically have a boring, undramatic economy and society We know it doesn't work like that though! If you try and wallpaper over real problems, the problems just grow bigger. Blind faith Starmerism is going to let inequality and deprivation fester and grow 🙁
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  3234. How many times has Boris said we have an amazing, strong economy? World beating apparently, yet still no money for wages. Something doesn't add up here 🤔
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  3235. Reform aren't for me, but I do want them to be successful. I've got more respect for them as honorable, decent opposition, and would be much happier if they were bigger than the Tories!
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  3236.  @chrispennington9652  Definitely ready to stand with you and Reform on electoral reform!
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  3237. ​ @mickkelly8153 let's tax income from assets the same as income from productive work - that will do for a start
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  3238.  @scepticskeptic1663  start it up, the whole point is it's open to anyone
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  3239. Neutral vs objective is easier to explain. Neutral is sitting in the studio with one person who says it is raining, and one saying it's sunny, and giving them both chance to speak Objective is going outside and describing what weather you see A trivial example, but hopefully helpful for understanding the difference in more complex issues!
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  3240. @saufathau6827  some people would say there's no difference, and it is subtle. However, you can be objective but biased If you stick to provable facts, but curate only facts that favour one side, you're maintaining objectivity, but demonstrating bias This is human nature, everyone is at least a little bit biased, so it's good to look at a few different objective sources so you get different framings of a story
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  3241. ​@PatSmith-d5w I think both are true. Starmer is massively unpopular, yet also slightly preferable to any of the alternatives Uk politics is in a right mess 🙁
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  3242.  @Paul-eb4jp  you can't really blame them, since that's what most of the Brexiteer spokespeople were promising, right up until after the result
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  3243. ​ @mrwpg  are you thinking of the socialism in the dictionary, or Richard Tice's brainrotted socialism?
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  3244. I could say takes one to know one, but Boris nailed it there
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  3245. ​ @chunkykong1976 you do realise they could make paper money worthless overnight if they were daft enough to do so? Digital currencies don't give central banks any power they don't already have over paper fiat money
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  3246. ​ @tjenadonn6158  in fact, once you have one crisis, it tends to create more of them if you don't get on top of it!
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  3247.  @mikechapman8896  when did this country get so miserable and joyless? No breaks, no hobbies, just eat, sleep, work, repeat Surely we can do better than that?
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  3248. So it's not "real" poverty until you've sold your TV? You might get £100 for that, covers a few weeks food, less if it's a large family Selling the TV isn't going to get people out of this Tory mess!
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  3249. If work is good for you, then Liz Kendall can go break rocks til she gets better!
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  3250. It won't happen overnight, but better pay is a good way to improve staffing levels!
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  3251. It's a very Tory plan - something stupid, at great cost
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  3252. ​ @mrsupremegascon using state money to subsidise low wages isn't socialism - it's billionaires squeezing the middle class to try and bribe the lowest paid just enough to prevent riots
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  3253. There is a difference between the current Tories and Starmer's Labour, just like there's a difference between the current Tories and the Cameron/Osborne Tories
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  3254. Why does this make me think of the Black Mirror episode "15 Million Merits"?
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  3255. Sad thing is, it's both true, and yet still will be a welcome relief from the current lot
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  3256. Lynch cares about ordinary people more than any Tory ever has
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  3257.  @stevenelliott5403  Shame that the Tories have made so many cuts to adult education. It's almost like they don't want people to better themselves 🤔
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  3258. If you think JoB is extreme left, actual Marxists are going to blow your mind!
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  3259.  @DeanJuvenal  I doubt it would get any publicity - the media are very good at turning a blind eye! That doesn't matter if you're going directly to the voters in his constituency - bypasses the media completely 😁
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  3260. ​ @paulies5407 not what Dawn Butler said, try again...
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  3261. Nonsense. Look at waiting times under Labour. Look at waiting times now Labour makes the NHS work. Tories break it
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  3262. ​ @trytellingthetruth.2068  We can ask nicely, but qe can't tell them what to do, that's sovereignty for you! We do have soveriegn control of what we do here though, so let's do what we can with that
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  3263. I don't like this "both sides needs to compromise" rhetoric when only one side has done any compromising for over a decade...
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  3264. The Greens are anti austerity and pro wealth taxes 🙂
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  3265. ​ @jordonbooman9913 and what was that point?
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  3266. Got to give Minford credit - at least he's consistent in being wrong!
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  3267. ​ @FormerCityFinancier so what happens when the property economy has metastatised the productive economy?
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  3268. Macmillan would be demonised as a loony leftie by modern standards!
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  3269.  @Jamie-Z  do we even have a far left in the UK?
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  3270.  @Jamie-Z  is a bit of nationalisation and public investment far left? It's hardly Stalin or Pol Pot
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  3271.  @Jamie-Z  that's good, I support democracy too 🙂
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  3272. @Jamie Z  I find it a bit weird choosing to exclude yourself from the decision making table. Norway accepts all single market rules, what do they can by not having a say when those rules are made?
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  3273. @Jamie Z  you are really confusing me - you avoid dictatorship, by making sure you have no say in the rules you promise to follow?
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  3274. @dogglebird4430 so what's the competent way to give massive tax breaks to your already rich mates? Asking for a friend
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  3275. @dogglebird4430 you think that's the only thing they're cutting? Something else I don't get about this plan. There's plenty of wealth out there already, so the money's there to invest Why aren't they investing?
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  3276. @dogglebird4430 clearly something's going wrong, as they're not investing. We should tax them more so we can invest it instead
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  3277. I think it's lose-lose. Hardliners think the Tories are soft on immigration, moderates think the Tories are going extremist, and everyone thinks they are incompetent Tories lose, from whatever angle you look at it
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  3278. We can't expect laws to save us from ourselves. If we collectively keep voting for known liars, we get what we deserve
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  3279. but is Nancy Pelosi the Godmother?
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  3280. Are you for or against unaffordable heating bills?
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  3281. This is the result of four decades of Thatcherism
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  3282. They didn't need Sky to tell them. They already knew
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  3283. Would that be the same Oxbridge education that Truss and Kwarteng had?
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  3284.  @jajabez8379  and if you're smart, you drive much of the electrolysis when you've got surplus power, so you're using power that would otherwise have to be dumped
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  3285. ​ @tonyrobson6457 I have voted for EU President exactly as many times as I have voted for the UK Prime Minister 😉
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  3286. They've beat you to it - they do go direct from Ireland to France. Holyhead is almost a ghost town now 🙁
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  3287. If you want a single market, someone has to decide the rules of that market If it isn't a democraticly elected body, then what do you propose instead?
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  3288.  @taintabird23  so we need some structure, where representatives of those nations could come together to propose and review the rules of the Single Market?
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  3289.  @kevonslims7269  and would they be rules we had way less say over than we did with EU regs?
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  3290.  @kevonslims7269  I thought it was all about taking back control! It's almost like the people throwing these ideas around haven't got a clue what they're doing 🤔
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  3291. ​ @lamestreammedia3154 what sort of campaign could you direct at H - our government and institutions don't fund H
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  3292.  @lamestreammedia3154  the organisation beginning with H that sometimes makes YouTube comments disappear
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  3293. Barnier offered cooperation, and Frost said no. Barnier found this odd, but respected the choice Frost made, because the EU believe in democratic choice Here in the UK, we voted for this
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  3294. Certainly not a Tory politician, anyway!
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  3295.  @lukemurray4950  the voting record is publicly searchable if you don't believe me. Please go look if you (rightly) don't trust a random person on the Internet!
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  3296. That's Priti Patel. At the time, she was Home Secretary 😳
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  3297. ​ @JayJay5244  The next election, which Boris is going to have to announce soon before the Party dethrone him!
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  3298.  @alecdurbaville6355  real is what happens, regardless of who believes in it
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  3299. If the shareholders hit financial difficulties as a result of their unwise investments, they can sign up for universal credit like everyone else!
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  3300. @sebastianbywater2445  the rentiers don't allocate efficiently, they allocate selfishly and in a short-termist way That's why everything is broken now
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  3301.  @sebastianbywater2445  I question your assertion that governments are always inefficient, but even going along with your argument, I'd rather an inefficient allocation of resources, when the alternative is no resources at all!
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  3302. We tried to talk Brexit down from the ledge, but sadly it jumped off despite our efforts
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  3303. I was fine with the debt to keep people alive. This debt to fund more private yachts can go do one though
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  3304. Landlords, mostly. People who had big property portfolios before have massive property portfolios now Meanwhile, people who just want somewhere to live are stuck with the choice of cripplingly expensive rents, or a cripplingly expensive mortgage Too much of the 'economy' is house prices going up, we need more making things, growing things and doing things instead
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  3305.  @mathewgurney2033  Me and James Cleverly have one thing in common, we are nothing like our surnames Happily, that's about the only thing I have in common with our disastrous foreign secretary!
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  3306. Let's be happy they now see who he is! So many people ate still in complete denial ☹
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  3307. ​ @joejoejoe4577 eve was made from Adam's rib - genetically male. She's the first trans woman, really
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  3308. ​ @keithshippey230  bingo - Labour vs Tory is "who can be the most competent Thatcherite" nowadays If you want a different direction, vote elsewhere
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  3309. Either way, he's unfit for office!
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  3310.  @chrisj9700  i want to find a doctor when I need one, and can't wait two and a half decades for one to be born, raised and put through medical school!
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  3311. ​ @oneukum wasn't Rutte a bit Thatcherish too?
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  3312. ​nope, 25% ownership
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  3313. It makes a massive difference! There's all sorts of loopholes available to shareholders that people earning a wage can't take advantage of. Lots of high earners take a (relatively) low wage but have big share payouts from the company they own/work for. That's basic tax avoidance. When you're rich enough to have a dedicated accountant, you can have shell companies set up so your company and earnings are in a country you've never set foot in and barely pay any tax at all The source of your earnings makes a huge difference!
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  3314. ​@drbalbon7332 if I stand with Jewish people, I'm not antisemitic. Is that a common sense position you would agree with?
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  3315.  @roberttreborable  no, what Putin did was an invasion. Calling a few cold, hungry people an invasion is a bit embarrassing, really
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  3316. If it's losing money, I assume the current owners would be happy to give it back to national ownership for a low price? 😉
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  3317. Answer - Nick's brain, it's infinitely dense
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  3318. Maybe supermarket workers should!
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  3319. If you don't like the top level management, vote for a better one!
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  3320. Nothing wrong with wanting your children to have a good education. Plenty wrong with having an entitled assumption that they will without question pass the exams...
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  3321.  @satisfiedatheist8762  I just look at the government of the last twelve years. Some got their degrees on merit, but no way all of them did!
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  3322.  @satisfiedatheist8762  well, if Truss had a legitimate pass, she clearly forgot everything she learned on the way through the party ranks! Similar can be said of Johnson and Mogg. If they have any genuine ability and insight, they hide it behind their superficial veneer of waffle. They could both talk for days without saying anything of substance
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  3323. ​ @TW19567 and apparently the party who privatised everything is "socialist" Someone needs to buy Tice a dictionary
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  3324. ​ @CawKee  without staff, a hospital's just a warehouse for medical gear 🙁
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  3325. ​@Helsby yeah, silly EU with their over-elaborate formal politeness and processes and structures. Very quaint and faintly ridiculous... until the trade war starts
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  3326. Agree, I don't get it. He argues more of the nations wealth needs to be put into public services, then says the fix is to cut the whole country off from the trade that earns all the money! A poorer nation doesn't help fund public services. Smarter tax policy in a rich nation does!
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  3327. The BBC board has been taken over by Tories. Could be awhile before it's a truly neutral institution again 🙁
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  3328. Are we discouraging refugees, or rewarding them with an all mod cons relocation package? I am getting very confused!
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  3329. So according to Phil here, people are choosing to become ill to maximise the free healthcare they can exploit? 🤔
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  3330. If we get enough people, why would that not work?
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  3331. @Colin Tawn  No disagreement with that! I want to know why Paul thinks a very large group of voters calling for change, won't cause change though 🙂
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  3332. ​ @jmw-qt2ih are you saying we should legalise most/all narcotics so we can tax them? Pretty radical thinking, sounds worth exploring, at least
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  3333.  @jmw-qt2ih  sounds like the best option to be fair, but right or wrong, there's plenty out there who are taking, and right now only criminals see any of that money
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  3334.  @jmw-qt2ih  I agree, but the truth is, dumb people exist
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  3335.  @Richard_Straker  but Great British Energy will achieve energy independence and decarbonisation - no tradeoff between energy security and climate security needed!
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  3336.  @Richard_Straker  Green hydrogen is the long term solution, and in the short term every step towards decarbonisation means we can prioritise things like heavy industry with the remaining fossil fuel capacity and limit our exposure to international cost spikes
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  3337.  @Richard_Straker  Solar and Wind aren't hypothetical. We can scale those up while we solve the rest Every kwh we generate from renewables is one less kwh we need to buy on the global market
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  3338. We are not destroyed! We recovered from world wars, we can recover from Tories too 🙂
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  3339.  @ccutehoney  if we have a government that looks capable of rebuilding, we will find loans. As long as debts will be paid you can always find someone willing to lend! Not pretending it will be quick or easy, but with stable and serious people, with a proper plan, we can create a new future for us all!
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  3340.  @ccutehoney  it's only bleak if you've bought into the "world-beating" hype and nonsense. If you only see "world beating" or "failure"... well, world beating isn't happening... However, if success is what you want, a place that's pleasant to live in with hope and opportunities, that's very possible. We just need leaders who focus on the basics rather than chasing crazy quick fix gambles If we get that government, and all do our bit then bridges can be rebuilt and the country can find a better path forward
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  3341.  @ccutehoney  it's only bleak if you've bought into the "world-beating" hype and nonsense. If you only see "world beating" or "failure"... well, world beating isn't happening... However, if success is what you want, a place that's pleasant to live in with hope and opportunities, that's very possible. We just need leaders who focus on the basics rather than chasing crazy quick fix gambles If we get that government, and all do our bit then bridges can be rebuilt and the country can find a better path forward
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  3342. ​ @TobotronPrime don't see why there needs to be a conflict between affordable homes and affordable transport - why not push for both?
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  3343. We shouldn't be setting young people against pensioners. We should be asking where all the wealth in our supposedly wealthy country is all vanishing off to (Yes, it's tax havens. It was a rhetorical question!)
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  3344. Hi Borat! You've been quiet, been a long time since the last movie!
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  3345.  @ducko1988  😁
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  3346. ​ @seang2700  If we look at current EU members, the isolationist bloc will never go away, but it seems to settle at around 15%-20% I believe the spike in isolationism was an anomaly that won't be repeated for a very very long time, and we'll soon be like normal countries, where they are a noisy minority
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  3347.  @seang2700  There are many lessons we can learn from Brexit, but the one relevant here is that failure fuels opposition. In a mythical alternate future where Brexit worked well, Rejoin would be a few fringe obsessives in the corner of a pub or coffee shop This is what Rejoin needs to deliver - provable benefits for everyone, so even most Brexit voters agree they're feeling benefits, while grumbling that it isn't how they would have done it It won't be over, but we can avoid the toxicity and hard polarisation if everyone gains something
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  3348. If you're in politics to get rich you're in the wrong job. The people they claim to represent would be well happy on an MPs wage - if it's not enough, get a job in the city and let someone who cares about their constituency take the post!
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  3349.  @paulaustinmurphy  I say we do have a problem with terms being meaningless, and a lot of it comes from people using terms pejoratively and inaccurately You mention liberal, and I do think liberal is losing useful value, as it gets used by authoritarians to mean "anything I don't like". To be clear and fair, this isn't unique to any one group, the word fascist has also been devalued by progressives to also mean "anything I don't like" People doing "vibes and tribes" political debate are a stain on politics across the whole spectrum
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  3350.  @paulaustinmurphy  a lot of the devaluation comes from immature "my side is louder than yours" 'debate' My humble suggestion is to call out such behaviour, especially if it's from people who nominally agree with you, and give recognition to those who can present good arguments, especially if they oppose you Since we're here, debating healthily, in the comments below a video where people with very different positions debated healthily, I feel there is a growing appetite in the public for a better quality of civic discussion
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  3351. That's because she's openly and enthusiasticly embraced those policies!
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  3352. ​ @blueband8114 even doctors - we might get away with reducing their pay in the short term, but who is going to do 7 years of medical school if they won't see a great wage at the end?
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  3353. GBNews is owned by an investment group in Dubai, and on topics like this their agenda really shows!
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  3354. 4:30 - "somebody lit a bonfire and suddenly it was smoke and flames everywhere. Seems a bit coincidental to me" Please tell me he's an actor, planted there to wind us up?
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  3355. Maybe it is appointed that we kick the Tories out, and the appointed time for people will be better than what people have now?
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  3356.  @goooaaattt-b4a  We already have a corrupt leader incapable of leading the country. Worst case we break even and get more of the same - time for a change, nothing to lose!
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  3357. @Steven Twine  they won't be given jobs, this isn't soviet Russia. They will apply for jobs, and find the one they are suited to do
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  3358.  @steventwine8705  I would assume they'll be starting in low skill, low risk jobs if they don't have a verifiable history. There may be some support needed with language, but probably less than you think - often the reason they want to come here rather than France is they speak English but no French
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  3359.  @steventwine8705  then they'll have to find other ways to prove competence and character, same as the rest of us do. Our society doesn't cut any of us much slack!
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  3360.  @paopper-ys7xj  this is how conversations work - you read what people say, and the topic evolves as people add and expand ideas You should give it a go!
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  3361.  @paopper-ys7xj  why would you assume that?
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  3362. @Paopper  what evidence is there they are passing through covertly? I also don't see anything wrong with having preferences in where to apply for asylum. It is the rest of your life - I can see why you'd choose somewhere that you already have friends or family, or a place where you already speak a bit of the language Very sensible things to consider, when you're probably going to be somewhere for the rest of your life
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  3363. They are fighting to protect democracy from actual armed invasion We can't even protect it from being corrupted by spineless lying weasels ☹
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  3364. Varoufakis will be biased, but I expect he's also wise enough to acknowledge that Greece had dug a spectacularly deep pit for itself I worry we are digging the same sort of pit here in the UK. If you think Greece had it bad, wait til you see how much mercy failed economies outside of large powerful trading blocks get...
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  3365. unless it is followed by "so I am calling a general election" 🙂
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  3366.  @xboxgamer7453  Yes, his words could also be interpreted as a suggestion to drink the bleach instead...
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  3367. Amazon are infamous for resisting unionisation, including having Union reps arrested if they go near Amazon staff at work
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  3368.  @garyboyle695  or they did see it coming, placed their positions accordingly and made lots of money. They tend to be quiet about it,as they know how people react when you say "I got rich from the financial crash"
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  3369.  @garyboyle695  trading is applied economics. I am very suspicious of any economist who can't show their theory in the real world!
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  3370. Can they fix London's insane rental market first? Maybe they should move more jobs out of London, that would help everyone 🙂
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  3371.  @carlena4300  That is is. Thanks Tories! 😡
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  3372. Penises are invading on small boats, probably
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  3373. Don't know why everyone's overthinking this so much, they're going to be in solitary whichever prison they go to
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  3374.  @DC-wt2vi  GBNews takes the Tufton St money, and reads the Tufton St scripts. That's what it does!
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  3375.  @jamescooke6032  I wouldn't work in Maccies, but I would do a few shifts in the local pub or cafe if it has a nice crowd of regulars Where you work, and who you work with will be more important than how much you get paid. It would fundamentally change how businesses compete for staff
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  3376. Much as it could be gratifying, I don't think stopping secret ballots being secret is a good idea overall Any donations to Vote Leave and suchlike should absolutely be on the public record though!
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  3377. Seems like " the middle of a pandemic" was an odd time to finalise Brexit. That was the UK government choosing, the EU were happy to extend Why finalise Brexit in the peak of a pandemic?
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  3378.  @danw5760  A broad range of opinions are put on the radio, especially when you look at all the different hosts across the day Whatever gets screened must be the most crazy of the extreme!
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  3379. ​ @qetoun if someone demands a unicorn, you can try taping a parsnip to a donkey, but you'll never be able to give them what they asked for...
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  3380.  @qetoun  I am! You say "civil servants refusing to obey" I say "civil servants unable to deliver the impossible demands of entitled crazy people"
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  3381. ​ @terrydaktyllus1320 we are over it. We vote Green now, and take seats from Labour 🙂
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  3382. @terrydaktyllus1320  no worries! There's plenty of people who are interested, we'll be focusing on them 🙂
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  3383.  @terrydaktyllus1320  👋
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  3384. and where's my flying car, too!
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  3385. What could you have done differently?
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  3386. ​ @trytellingthetruth.2068  and when has anyone prevented any of that?
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  3387.  @trytellingthetruth.2068  the list, that you wrote
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  3388.  @trytellingthetruth.2068  Well, we've left the EU. Are you not happy?
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  3389.  @cantstartit  I see a party taxing hard working people to give money to their idle, feckless chums. That party is the Tories
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  3390. There's a lot wrong with banking, but I don't think the reform process should be driven by Nigel's need for a fancy bank...
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  3391.  @kevanbodsworth9868  if it was just market supply and demand, nurses would be seeing massive pay rises, and the RMT wouldn't have secured wage rises everywhere except where the government has a veto on wage negotiations It's political. The idea that it's a neutral market driven process is a myth
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  3392.  @nik-ev3eh  where is it illegal? I have heard various people say variations of it at the Conservative conferences over the weekend
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  3393. She's definitely in her comfort zone when dealing with idiot Tory ministers rather than trade union reps!
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  3394. So true - if Rishi was socialist he'd have nationalised water and power by now!
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  3395. If we want people healthy and working we should invest in the NHS!
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  3396. ​@joffey1212 this isn't the 19th century. "Having a car" is hardly remarkable or special...
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  3397. As long as capital gains taxes exist, can't we just let them self report? We get the money either way. Even if we let them claim that mansion is somehow only worth £1000, the capital gains on that is going to be substantial if it suddenly sells for 2 billion!
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  3398. Starmer seems to be a one-nation Tory at heart - he does want ordinary people to be comfortable, but to leave all the governing and power to a chosen, wealthy few. Us lot are supposed to know our place 🙄
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  3399.  @paddycrawshaw9221  something must be going wrong then - if there are decent and talented people at Oxford, why do we see so many Oxford grads who are incompetent horrorshows in parliament?
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  3400.  @satisfiedatheist8762  my point is most people only know Oxford indirectly, through public figures who have gone there. Many people will name a recent Prime Minister if you ask them to name someone who has been to Oxford The current government is doing so much damage to Oxford's reputation!
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  3401. Macron would love that right now - a distraction from the pension changes is just what he needs!
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  3402. ​ @johnrussell3961  although what could the IMF cut after the last 14 years? Everything is already stripped bare
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  3403.  @chrisj9700  the amount of managers is utterly average for the size of the NHS. It's not overmanaged
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  3404.  @chrisj9700  "diversity" is just normal HR in a company that hires internationally. It's a normal part of being a large modern organisation. It will have a large pay packet, because that's the market rate other large organisations pay. Being a publicly owned organisation doesn't insulate you from market forces And let's face it, moaning about management is something everyone does, even where things are actually well run!
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  3405.  @johnrussell3961  cut the NHS? Unless they're going to just leave people to die where they fall, the NHS is already stripped bare! State pensions aren't exactly generous either
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  3406. The ERG love Truss because they recognise someone who will change their beliefs for power, and she's now utterly dependent on their support She's the perfect puppet for them!
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  3407.  @spartybrearly7221  maybe? We shall have to see how well the puppet master runs the puppet show!
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  3408.  @spartybrearly7221  I wouldn't insult the muppets like that 😋
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  3409. To be fair, it will make a little difference, but nothing like as much as the publicly owned energy would!
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  3410. @Matthew Daisley  that's nonsense! Even the most liberal and cosmopolitan nations have checks. Why pretend that there's only iron borders, or unregulated chaos? It's ridiculous scaremongering
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  3411.  @mogznwaz  Canada does accept conditions from Washington in order to trade with the USA...
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  3412. @kevon slims  A trade deal, negotiated very much in favour of the USA. It demands more access for US business to Mexico and Canada than Mexico and Canada get in return
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  3413. Barrister's rates are more like a small business than a wage - it's not take home pay, it has to cover job expenses too Compare them to self employed plumbers or electricians for a fair comparison
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  3414. Stand with people who want to have their voice heard Stand against those who want to make their voice the only voice that ever gets heard
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  3415.  @nick1065  Caught? If you're a fisherman you'll be going hungry!
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  3416.  @nick1065  Exactly! The only thing you catch now is turds
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  3417. You debate them at the ballot box! If they don't accept the result, they can pay another 9 figure fine for the pleasure 😁
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  3418.  @ancietman  I bet a 20% pay rise would make filling vacancies significantly easier
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  3419. ​@RobertJonesWightpaint a lot of that is down to the voting system. The big parties gatekeep who can get near the top, which limits who gets to the top. How many potentially great leaders have been sidelined because they didn't fit the current mold? With a system that allows more parties to be represented, established interests can't gatekeep like they currently do. It allows challengers to get a foot in the door and grow
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  3420. Does smell a lot like two people liquidating all their assets so they can hide everything overseas...
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  3421. ​ @rolandedwards2923  Tice has already said he's giving Lawrence Fox and Reclaim an uncontested run at Uxbridge
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  3422.  @rolandedwards2923  it's a fair point! Farage may have lost to a dolphin, but at least he stood in the election. Tice is starting to look like a bit of a backseat driver
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  3423. ​ @perirgensolsson3673 get yourself to Hampstead village. Declare that they are made from finest pure water and stick them in an artisinal iced latte and you'll sell them for mad money
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  3424.  @sibutterworth6542  so which bit don't you want? Tax collection maybe?
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  3425. Are those figures adjusted for inflation? If they're not, then the economy is shrinking, just in a slightly more controlled manner than a recession
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  3426. Apparently this Brexit isn't hard enough for some, and going full North Korea is the magic solution So yeah, "lost their minds" sums it up!
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  3427. and Tofu, somehow 🤔
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  3428.  @will121  but what's the likely future for kids who are too hungry to concentrate at school?
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  3429. Vote Green, and add to the call for wealth taxes!
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  3430.  @robertosborne7542  Wait though! As a backbencher he is more honest than when he was a minister. Wonder if that holds true if we kick them all out? 😁
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  3431. Journalists might struggle less with defining party positioning if they understood the difference between "social liberals" and "left wing econonmics" They lump all of this together as "the left", and that is just meaningless and confusing
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  3432. Not seething, just underwhelmed. Not surprised though - they are being exactly as conservative as I expected
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  3433.  @hughjohns9110  It's fair to say we can't know for sure, but the railways have enough money in them to pay dividends,so they aren't skint. Shapps was just looking to pick a fight
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  3434.  @hughjohns9110  I didn't want to be arrogant and presume I know everything, but if you want a clear line drawn, my position is that Labour would have found a solution before it escalated to strike action. I remain open to counterarguments, but you need to do better than interpreting my openness to listen as a weakness!
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  3435. ​ @DaveEP we get that now with FPTP, if a faction in a big tent party is willing to be disruptive We've just watched it happen for the last decade or so!
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  3436.  @DaveEP  what's weak about intelligent discussion and collaboration? The economy generally isn't something you can influence by shouting loudly at it. Informed policy is generally considered more useful
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  3437. "He's getting inflation under control" That was happening anyway, no action needed. Basically saying "the government are doing sod all" without saying it out loud!
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  3438. We spend a lot less per head than America. Plenty of room to spend more without bankrupting the country!
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  3439. I normally want to add something insightful when I add to the comments, but Dr Mary nailed it So there is only one thing I can add - Torys out
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  3440.  @Law00999  well, how's our current, highly individualist economy looking?
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  3441. @Law00999  pretty much every major innovation was state funded and achieved through collective effort. The internet we're using right now, for example. The initial effort was state funded, and at every stage it depends on collaboration between very many people
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  3442.  @Law00999  that's the web, which even if you want to credit to one person, is just one layer in a stack of systems. It's also been expanded by numerous efforts since, all of which have to interoperate and coordinate It's a massively collaborative effort
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  3443. @Law00999  there you go, even in selfishness, we intuitively know our self interests are best served collectively through community. Absolutist, pure selfishness is rare, and rarely successful in the long run
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  3444. The protesters Truss complained about were from Greenpeace - in her world that's basically identical, right?
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  3445. I have used that rule of thumb with Rees Mogg too. Serves me well!
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  3446. ​ @dantownsend4246 Narnia and Oz, possibly?
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  3447. Did you vote Conservative in 2019?
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  3448. ​ @Rebellion1  we don't have that much to sell. Even if we somehow got all of it extracted and put it on the market all at once, prices would barely budge
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  3449.  @darthkek1953  so does China, but they physically build stuff, too
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  3450. Corruption in the EU gets you a seat in jail Corruption in the UK gets you a seat in the House of Lords I think the EU is handling it better here!
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  3451. We've been trusting "the rich" to create better jobs for four decades now. They've failed! Time to try taxing the rich instead 🙂
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  3452. Short answer, yes and no Long answer - google Stephanie Kelton, she explains it far better than I can!
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  3453.  @Christina-g4s  because that's what stops it becoming worthless - give some out here, take some back there
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  3454.  @ravd8082  freedom of movement means you can apply for jobs across the whole zone. You don't have a right to a free house!
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  3455.  @JAMAICADOCK  It's hard to measure the EUs global influence. They don't do dramatic grandstanding or overt interventions, so they don't feature in dramatic news stories much. Their soft power is significant though, and with trade in particular they have a lot of weight - everyone who's tried to play hardball has regretted it, even the USA
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  3456.  @abergreg  I know, but it's what the people in power are doing, just like they always said they would
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  3457.  @abergreg  they said a lot of things, but Singapore-on-Thames is the one they were saying to each other
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  3458.  @abergreg  if it was only a bluff, why have they just impemented it?
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  3459.  @Mogwai786  assuming all of Isreal aligns with Netanyahu, and that Hamas represents all Palestinians is a very naive oversimplification
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  3460.  @Mogwai786  so what's your proposal to resolve this?
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  3461.  @Mogwai786  Netanyahu says no to your plan. Next move?
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  3462.  @Mogwai786  so action needs to be taken. What action?
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  3463.  @incurableromantic4006  skilled staff are in demand globally, open borders won't oversupply medical staff We might even be competing for workers generally soon - the birth rate globally is stabilising
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  3464.  @scottbarclay6  if they started as nurses 12 years ago, when Labour was in government, they were better paid. In fact, 19% would restore wages to 2010 levels! It restores pay to old levels, so it's ending austerity rather than being a pay rise
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  3465. ​ @garyb455 the free market will sort it out. Another wealthy person who isn't a tax dodger will move in to fill the gap
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  3466. Yep. This is the litmus test of whether Farage really cares about the principle, or just his selfish desire for a posh bank account!
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  3467. ​@Parker Dad well, the NRA is certainly providing plenty of murdered children 🙁
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  3468. ​@mrbubbles6468 you can't read anything into Starmer not answering questions. He's always flaky in interviews He could be asked what he had for breakfast and still give a flaky, fence sitting answer!
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  3469. Because Farage is a chicken who won't do it
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  3470. ​ @alanmckay7040 not talking about it? It's the default news in the Mail and Telegraph if small boats are quiet...
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  3471. Like the stable geniuses in America who say there's no man made climate change, but also that the Libs are summoning hurricanes 🙄
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  3472. They are at Uni, 24/7 😝
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  3473. ​ @alexharrison2743 it's almost like people know assets are overvalued, the market is broken and a crash is imminent 🤔
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  3474.  @chrisholland7367  They have always been out of touch with us. They seem to be progressing to out of touch with reality itself...
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  3475. Being "the best since" is not the same as "good"
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  3476. ​ @jim-es8qk if I stopped paying my rent, I would be able to live the high life! Which is what the country did, and now the bills are due to fix our water, fix our hospitals, fix our schools...
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  3477. Tories never invest in anything. They are the party of offshore tax havens!
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  3478. Very true. Now, whatever rebuilding we want to do has to be done without most of the tools we'd want, as we sold them all off 🙁
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  3479.  @its_rick_james_bich2575  it matters a lot when it's being used to stir up conflict
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  3480.  @johnmac1960  there will be no growth while we keep letting Tories rig the game to divert all the money to their chums
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  3481. My hand slipped and I ended up voting Green instead. Oh dear, so sad, never mind 😁
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  3482. The ballot box is where they will feel it. If you live somewhere where the Greens came second to Labour, you know what you can do 🙂
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  3483. Only Palm Oil, no sovereignty. Foreign investors will have more rights than UK citizens!
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  3484. ​ @stephenjenkins1323 increase prices and cut investment? Sounds like unregulated capitalism to me!
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  3485. and seems to be determined to pretend that even in housholds, you can take out loans If you need a car for work, but can only afford it on credit, you take out a loan and buy the car rather than quit work!
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  3486. @holycannoli64  very different to Reevesonomics - Labour only tax low and middle earners, and they invest as little as possible 🙁
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  3487.  @tonygange7636  Read any Dickens, this mindset is at least that old. In Dickens, the gentry are noble heroes, middle classes are penny pinching and miserable (Scrooge is the iconic example, but far from the only one) and the working class are degenerate thieves and thugs No coincidence that a lot of Tories love Dickens...
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  3488. Well, once everyone does that Amazon will be losing money daily. They'll put up wages to bring people back and halt the loss of earnings. The end state is people working for Amazon on better wages. This way just short circuits some of the hassle!
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  3489.  @nicholasgerrish6022  as a society, we are going to have to answer that question - if machines replace everyone's jobs, where are the customers who buy the things the robots are making and delivering? ...and while we figure that out, pay the people who are working a proper wage!
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  3490. ​​ @stevec700  advisory has a legal definition, and has much looser regulation of the campaign You can argue that advice still represents the will of the people, but legally it absolutely, definitively was not binding
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  3491. It's tough being an independent now - it might be differently tough under PR, but still tough either way
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  3492. I have to question the integrity of anyone in the media who is still arguing against an election at this point. The government mandate is in tatters! How can you still stand by them?
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  3493.  @waynejones1054  Time to demand serious changes!
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  3494. I had a nice chat with the Labour activist on my door - I think there's more chance that they'll campaign for Green next time than I'll vote Labour though 🙂
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  3495. Rees Mogg mentioned our aging population, but I didn't hear him propose any solutions If he doesn't want to care for the elderly, is he just going to leave them to suffer?
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  3496. ​ @widervision710  Legatum, a dubai based hedge fund. That's where the money comes from to cover the losses
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  3497.  @koalaeinstein-y7r  I guess they weigh that against the reduced risk of theft and robbery. It will make sense for more and more businesses as more and more people normally use cards over cash
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  3498. @Paul Torrisi  For that to work, wages need to be strong enough that you can earn enough without masses of overtime, and have time and energy when you finish work It also doesn't cover adults that need new skills to adapt to new jobs
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  3499. @Paul Torrisi  if you need to work 10 hour days to cover the bills, you can't prioritise much else...
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  3500.  @bigtorrisi  I get the feeling you've never done 10 hour days as a routine thing?
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  3501. But where is the centre ground? "Sensible" Labour seem to be sticking with the same ideas from the last four decades, and are eternally surprised when nothing changes as a result
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  3502. The special financial operation...
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  3503. and I had toast for breakfast. Am I doing the "random non sequitur game" right?
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  3504. Boris does like like the vaccine rollout He doesn't have much love for the people who actually made it happen though. Nurses need a payrise, and what does Boris say? Nothing, because he doesn't want to remind people who really did the hard work in the vaccine rollout!
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  3505.  @celltest7645  Corbyn announced recently, but I am sure he's been organising on the quiet for a long time. Maybe Abbot has too? If so, it wouldn't be such a strenuous option to take 🙂
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  3506. Tory Party would never allow it. How can the Tories blame Labour if they were in government with them?
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  3507. ​ @terencegumbs2478  The EU, where corruption gets you arrested, rather than getting you a peerage
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  3508.  @b00ts4ndc4ts  we just need a spare million! I'll check down the back of my sofa. If you do the same, maybe we'll find enough between us 😝
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  3509. Wes absolutely is who he is. There's no bandwagon Streeting won't be first to jump onto!
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  3510. Would it change your reaction if it wasn't put forward as a revenue raising policy, but as a disincentive against inflationary behaviour?
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  3511. Are you willing and able to signal boost those other protests? Because they happened and were ignored Get the message out to avoid the need for more dramatic protest!
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  3512.  @corradomancini3271  Boris willbe remembered much like Guy Fawkes, but unlike Guy, Boris succeeded...
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  3513. @corradomancini3271  perhaps overanalysing a snarky comment about how much harm Boris has done to UK politics? 😉
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  3514.  @clairee4939  Isreal keeps getting attacked because they keep starting fights It's a volatile situation, but more often than not It's Isreal lighting the match
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  3515.  @suburbanyobbo9412  but let's not take the chance, because if we find out for sure, it's too late
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  3516.  @suburbanyobbo9412  we can be clear they aren't fans of democracy though. They all want to minimise democratic participation, presumably remove it entirely if given the chance
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  3517. Why aren't we sanctioning Netanyahu like we're sanctioning Putin?
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  3518. ​ @artizan08 Reform loyalists are already in government - they just stood as Conservatives to get elected
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  3519.  @upshankkumalu9301  um, so how do you hold the bosses hostage without impacting anyone else?
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  3520. Surely it depends what you give and take in the negotiation process?
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  3521. Obviously they pay some tax, but the real question is this After tax, can you have enough additional capital to buy more assets? If you can grow your passive income from the returns of your passive income, then society has a problem. You reach a point where productive work isn't profitable because all the profit from work has been squeezed and redirected to passive income
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  3522. Even Daily Express readers are sick of Johnson. If he's lost them, he's lost everyone!
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  3523. Wind and solar don't have price spikes when there's trouble in the Red Sea and Suez canal. That's a nice bit of self reliance and economic security 🙂
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  3524. There's a joke in US politics - one party wants workers kept just healthy and happy enough to earn money for the executive class, while the Republican party is happy to just work people to death The same joke works for Labour and Tory now, too
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  3525. Did you ever want to know how many masochists live in the UK? Well, whether you do or you don't, the election results for the next general election will tell you!
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  3526. This doesn't reflect real world behaviour The biggest inhibitor on entrepreneurship is prohibitive risk, not lack of reward. We need to give people a stronger safety net (but not a luxurious one) At the moment, only people with generational wealth feel they can be adventurous. Everyone else has to play ultra-cautious as they know they could easily end up destitute if a high-stake idea goes wrong
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  3527. Why drop everything though? If there are bad laws, just drop those without risking accidentally killing people's holiday pay or maternity leave!
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  3528.  @mikeedwards1096  like you've ever read a trade deal!
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  3529.  @mikeedwards1096  what consent? You wouldn't read it to know what you're voting about. If you're not going to leave it to experts we may as well just flip coins
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  3530.  @mikeedwards1096  if you trust someone to do a fair summary, why not just trust them?
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  3531. It's almost finished, scrapping it now would be more effort than finishing it!
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  3532.  @piccalillipit9211  I don't know which option is more sad. At least self-serving corruption has a short-sighted logic to it To think he might have a genuine belief that being a better captain of the Titanic can make "ship currently sinking" work better for everyone is just tragically depressing
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  3533.  @piccalillipit9211  is he even manning the lifeboats? It's more like "if we all act like we did pre-iceberg, the ship will somehow still make it to dock"
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  3534.  @OneAndOnlyMe  my worry is it feels like actors performing as sensible experts, rather than actual experts. Too many proven experts are saying we need a different direction, and that Blair: electric boogaloo isn't sufficient
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  3535.  @nathanfurnival8724  did they ban it, or just give up stocking it because it didn't sell?
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  3536. Because most papers are owned by billionaires, and the Tories are the party for billionaires
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  3537. @GLOBALFACTSandFIGURES  while I don't want anyone to be squeezed, fact is most people under 50 have been squeezed for decades The older generation are just joining the same club everyone else has been part of. We're finally all in it together
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  3538.  @GLOBALFACTSandFIGURES  I feel sorry for anyone who didn't vote for this, but if you've spent the last 4 decades voting for governments that sold everything off and deregulated everything? You got what you voted for. Take some responsibility for your actions!
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  3539. I always thought that was a very odd threat to be using!
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  3540. That's an open invitation for vulture currency speculators to push the Pound to breaking point 🙁
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  3541. So was Neville Chamberlain!
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  3542. So, what rule are you against, that is enforced by that court?
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  3543.  @hoxtondave9619  so what is needed?
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  3544. The Greens are pushing to be a bigger presence. They only have a few target seats, but they offer a very interesting alternative where they can
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  3545.  @adenwellsmith6908  that sounds rather high - do you have a source?
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  3546.  @philmuggeson1849  Pick a statistic, and chances are Blair and Brown have the better record than Cameron/May/Johnson/Truss. Waiting times in hospitals lower, wages higher. Consistently better across so many measures!
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  3547.  @peterh1353  or just buries it's head in the sand and pretends a story doesn't exist if public opinion and the Mail ideology can't be reconciled!
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  3548. ​ @danmayberry1185  but the governing party supposedly in tune with this "majority" aren't confident to callan election 🤔
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  3549. I want to know how we've ended up in a place where people who want public services and a voice for local communities also hate "lefty socialism" - that promotes community politics and public services...
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  3550. The problem with that logic is we get a "choice" of two parties, both offering the failed policy of austerity and privatisation How is anything going to get better, if we stick with the policies that got us into this mess?
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  3551. @cupguin  I hope you're right, and I hope we've got enough time left to wait for incremental to have an impact I am worried that our economic foundation is cored out, and won't hold up for long
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  3552. Why can't northerners have a bit of pride? Are we only allowed to tug forelocks and doff caps?
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  3553.  @lucyjordan3188  but why does it have to be my house? Why not renovate abandoned and neglected houses, or build new ones? We need people working in this country, so why are we forcing so many people to stay out of work?
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  3554. Absolutely this! Blame the govermnent and house builders for not sorting out housing for the workers we need, as we definitely need them!
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  3555.  @darrenkeep9865  might be nice if the people who advocated for it could share this "make it work" plan with the rest of us. When is that being published?
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  3556.  @lloydnaylor6113  so, fun and exciting choice time! Would you rather have some power and the bills are affordable, or endless power if you can afford it (but you can't afford it) Exciting times, eh?
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  3557.  @aredub1847  even if everyone who watches PolJoe votes Green, do you think that will let the Tories win? The numbers don't add up This is about building visibility to grow over multiple election cycles
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  3558. ​@dylaanowen yep. All that moaning about "not making any money" just slightly ignores the free house they're getting at someone else's expense...
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  3559. ​@VincentRE79 Scandi countries have always had higher taxes, but also have good public services What do we have to show for our taxes?
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  3560. @VincentRE79  doesn't feel like that to most people! What are these services we benefit so richly from?
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  3561.  @VincentRE79  immigration is staffing our public services! There are more immigrants working for the NHS than being patients of the service
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  3562.  @tonyfraser1749  but isn't democracy all about choices? What's the point of different parties if their policies are the same, and only the colour of the rosettes changes?
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  3563. So you don't like the "expense" of letting them apply and eventually work for their own living, but are totally happy spending 10 million per person to send them to Rwanda?
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  3564. Who is this raging commie telling private companies how to spend their money?
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  3565. I think there's opportunities for a deal on areas like visas for artists and musicians, and SPS checks and alignment Nothing close to members, but still concrete, positive improvements from where we are now
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  3566.  @johnrussell3961  not all our problems, but it solves a problem, and quite a big one It's a step in the right direction
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  3567.  @johnrussell3961  while I agree that Starmer is a dishonest, shallow powerseeker, this is far from my biggest gripe with him Economically, it's not much, but it's a huge step politically. I have a lot more hope for him on EU relations than on domestic policy
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  3568.  @gilgamecha  sure, I can answer that. Pride regalia shows support without implying threat to people outside pride Far right regalia isn't inclusive and welcoming
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  3569.  @jdshgaming3416  That feels like a contradiction - if the police are upholding the law, shouldn't the law be for the safety and security of the public? If the law isn't on the public's side, then whose side is it on?
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  3570. ​ @bobhill4364  money's value literally comes from the ends you can apply it to. That's what determines it's value, discovered via the market mechanisms of forex trading It's why crypto is such a volatile mess - it's only value is brinkmanship with other crypto traders. The lack of any stable "means to an end" behind crypto guarantees chaos and volatility
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  3571. One of the worst human beings living in the UK, but facing stiff competition...
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  3572. And they haven't protected us, they just delayed the bill for a bit
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  3573.  @Hugh.G.Rectionx  strikes are decided by democratic ballot. No commandments from on high here, pure will of the people!
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  3574. I don't know much about him - what do you think he could bring to the role?
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  3575. They are on the same page, but is it the right page?
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  3576.  @johnrussell3961  isn't it! The redacting and revisionism from all the champions of Trussonomics then, who now claim they would never back such a plan, would be hilarious if it we weren't all suffering the fallout
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  3577.  @EliF-ge5bu  the NHS isn't supposed to make money. It keeps everyone healthy so we can go and make money!
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  3578. ​ @santorini8423 I am sure there's a minority of a minority, but it's not the widespread universal conspiracy people like Anderson claim. That is utter nonsense
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  3579. We've given him more than enough time to grow out if it, and he hasn't...
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  3580.  @madeleineswords704  I hear that statue needs a lot of cleaning 😉
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  3581. ​ @tony_w839  or speak better English than French
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  3582. I think it might be a lot less dramatic. Mogg is a talentless windbag, and he knows his current position could only happen under Johnston
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  3583. If he's committing fraud, then he needs investigating, but don't punish thousands of genuinely ill people just to stop your neighbour!
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  3584. ​ @ltmund you should give the greens another look - beyond the obvious environmental policies you expect, they also have very good economic policies for ordinary people
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  3585. You'd need a bill for all the infrastructure you're using that used to be paid by taxes. You'd need to pay everyone a lot more so they can cover their bills for things that used to be taxes. They'd all be separate, and all those administrative overheads will add to costs all round There comes a point where most people then think, "wouldn't it be great to have a single organisation to manage all this?Maybe with a streamlined charging structure - even if It's not exact the simplified admin will make it cheaper. That sounds so much easier than all this hassle!"
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  3586. Normal people don't spend their whole day worrying about penises
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  3587. If they really push things 1642 is more likely than 1914!
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  3588.  @jocosson8892  strictly, the cheques aren't the QE, true But you're doing QE to increase liquidity, and presumably you want that liquidity to flow somewhere Australia's somewhere worked better than ours did
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  3589.  @jocosson8892  now you're mixing up source and destination! QE is one way to source money, eg as an alternative to a windfall tax. The OP was concerned that all QE is bad, and my point is it depends. Partly on how strong the economy is, but mostly on what you do with the money once it's available
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  3590.  @jocosson8892  this is getting a bit silly Obviously a one-off payment isn't a universal income!
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  3591.  @jocosson8892  QE is the central bank buying bonds and similar assets from the government so the government has liquid capital That's it. The definition doesn't put any constraint on what the money is used for. You could QE to fund helicopter cheques, or QE to subsidise oil firms If the money came from the central bank buying bonds etc from the government, it's QE
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  3592. There are a lot of newspapers and TV journalists who cover for the Tories while giving Labour no slack. Labour are doing great, given the stacked deck
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  3593. ​ @smokey2471 is the Irish peace process a success through negotiation, or from carpet bombing Dublin?
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  3594. ​ @simonhampson5082  So you wanted a different direction for he EU, so to achieve this you voted to give up your say in the direction the EU is going? If I am misrepresenting you please let me know!
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  3595.  @simonhampson5082  well, guess we're finding out now if the problem was in Brussels or Westminster!
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  3596. @jjeffery worboys  Sunak isn't confidence, he's complete detachment. It's easy to be relaxed when your head is in the clouds!
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  3597. Money's wierd. You start from the simple view you state, then learn about quantitative easing, fiscal expansion, leveraged debt and all the other ways that you can apparently create money from nothing... And by learning all that, you prove that money is limited, and for one person to have more, someone else will have less. They just have fancier ways of hiding what they're doing!
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  3598. Rishi tried it at a few hundred each to pay back and received a massive backlash. Truss can expect an even bigger one!
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  3599. or do something about those excessive rents! The same wage would go a lot further if rents were sensible
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  3600. @UCRdmHnkF2BWprzJxhTk4Bvw sounds like you're arguing that the Iraq war is largely irrelevant to our current government!
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  3601.  @ryantate6447  but this is a thread about antisemitism, contrasting it with Andersons Islamophobia Seems like a stretch to make Khan the focus here!
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  3602.  @acthompson9983  Not sure what your point is. If the majority don't want the Tories, and we boot the Tories out, that is democracy
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  3603. ​ @mogznwaz  generally, if they are here, they'll be working and doing an important job
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  3604. and yet the Tories pushed through a policy that experts warned would result in an interest rate hike 🤦‍♂️
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  3605. If Gary answers, take his answer over mine, but my guess is this It's always a moving target. While Gary accumulates billions, the other side accumulates trillions. If it's a pure financial contest, it's very hard to catch up Turning it into a public conversation favours us more than the trillionaires 🙂
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  3606. because they volunteered to be responsible for thr nation's housing?
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  3607. That's PMQs though! PMQs is asinine and pointless, so there's only so much substance you can wring from an analysis of it
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  3608. But you voted to leave, we have left. You got everything that was promised on the ballot paper!
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  3609. We have as much land used for golf as housing I see a solution to find space for more houses for ordinary working people!
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  3610. @imbonkers3629  actual foreign currency debt is a problem, but AFAIK we don't have a lot of that Private debt in UK Stirling is still a problem, but not as serious, while deficit spending is remarkably elastic - not limitless, but a trivial issue compared to hard debt in foreign currency In short, not all debt is equal!
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  3611. Isn't a political strike fair game, if it's opposing political budget cuts?
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  3612.  @Durram258  correct. It already has been cut. Money is needed just to get back to where we were pre-austerity. Budgets have started to improve, but they are still way behind what they used to be
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  3613.  @peteratkinson922  lots of places are dealing with those, and haven't been affected as hard. Why has the UK uniquely been hit harder than comparable nations when these global problems happen?
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  3614. Isn't that what Daily Mail columnist fees are?
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  3615. Some people born male like to present and identify as female. I don't see this as a problem, but you seem to. What are you going to do about it?
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  3616. There could be some big shocks. I have family in a ridiculously Tory well to do rural area, and there's lifelong Conservative members tearing up their membership The obsession with culture wars is off-putting, but the Liz Truss Special Financial Event absolutely shattered their opinion of the Tories I expect the Lib Dems to do well in such areas
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  3617. ​ @maryjones4029 there's no point giving Braverman a nuanced, complex answer as she has repeatedly shown she's incapable of engaging at that level Short, simple sentences are the only level she can manage, so you have to engage at that level
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  3618. ​ @bestcomsystems4458 Iran used to be on a path to a liberal secular society - read up on PM Mossaddegh Then the CIA happened, because for all their talk of freedom and democracy, Oil is more important to America than liberty is The CIA created the current theocratic Iran, so it's a bit cheeky when America complains about how modern Iran acts!
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  3619. @left_blank  workers work plenty, but need to be paid better so they can contribute to tax!
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  3620. @left_blank  bosses are happy to make massive profits from those low paid workers. They have two choices really. Either they pay massive taxes on their massive profits, or pay better wages so workers can pay the tax instead
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  3621. and it's all planned, because it's what Liz Truss was promising all summer during the Leadership campaign. This was their goal the whole time
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  3622. I am positive we need to kick the Tories out! Is that positive enough?
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  3623. Whatever we pick, they'll attack. Got to stand our ground somewhere, so why keep running?
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  3624. That has happened, so he's not saying this lightly
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  3625.  @markscript5746  ...but only if you can afford the "expedited process fees"
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  3626. The train company contracts are with the government, and those contracts give the government control over certain things One of those things is negotiation with the Unions any deal has to be signed off by the Tories, and the Tories are blocking everything
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  3627. So you'd rather people walk away forever, than for just a day?
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  3628. ​ @armondtanz Tory immigration incompetence has definitely come up Tory chums love having captive guests. Guaranteed money and guest complaints can be completely ignored
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  3629. You can tackle the balance of graduates to jobs at both ends Other countries also invested and incentivised industries that hire graduates, so there are high-skilled jobs for large numbers of graduates to do. That seems wise to me! I also support more vocational training for people who don't suit university and post-uni career paths
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  3630.  @twisteddancer7773  I would need to know what was said. I don't like to judge without being properly informed
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  3631.  @joemq  isn't that just getting old, though? So many people hit a point where they want a quieter life and move out of the scrum here to go somewhere a bit quieter. Multiple neighbours from my street have done that now. It's just something people tend to do
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  3632.  @joemq  so what's the fix? Does everyone want to move back to London?
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  3633. I suspect he was ready to make either work, as long as he got a soundbite from someone
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  3634. So you're saying the Daily Mail are manufacturing a problem by exaggerating a few genuine but rare cases all out if proportion, while actively ignoring stories that run counter to their chosen narrative?
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  3635. The king of liberal centrists? He's not left wing!
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  3636. I am sure the EU don't want Tories back - the path to rejoin is to stop voting for Tories!
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  3637. Not global profits, just UK revenue
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  3638.  @verystripeyzebra  the market is for the CEO job - get a competitive tender going to replace the current numpty with someone doing a better job for a fraction of the money!
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  3639. @verystripeyzebra  i am not entirely serious - my serious point is any other role would have had wages squeezed to breaking point And that it's wierd how you can be a total failure, and yet be exempt from the same market pressure on wages 🤔
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  3640.  @Oluinneachain  I am trying to work out what links USSR, Germany, Cambodia and China, but I'm stumped. What do they all have in common that made them successful?
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  3641. ​ @squibys2262 but it doesn't have to be terrible. We used to be a country that could support billionaires, and give ordinary people a decent life Now we can't do both, and need to pick one of the two
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  3642.  @squibys2262  where does their money come from? Is it a solo effort, without the involvement of any other people?
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  3643. ​ @jardenc  ...show that Tufton St ideas have failed
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  3644. That's actually a perfect example, as look at the media effort dedicated to distracting from the wealth extraction and the smear campaigns about green energy being unreliable etc If people were presented with a balanced informed choice, the vote would be different. That's why the presentation is rarely balanced!
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  3645. ...or the rich will just continue subverting the Labour party and let the Tories rot
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  3646.  @FlashdogFul28  I have to acknowledge that the Tories and their chums have one he'll of a PR setup going on! Just a shame they don't put as much time, money and effort into making the country run better!
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  3647. ​ @chriswatson1698 but people are infrastructure That hospital is just a weirdly themed office block if you don't have doctors and nurses working there
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  3648.  @frankoneill5675  the EU is a peace project and a regulatory superpower. If our Europeanness is sincere, we don't need anything other than that enthusiasm to be part of the EU
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  3649. @Rocket Surgeon  that was our past. I sincerely believe we are changing, and soon the dinosaurs in our politics will realise this. Whether they evolve, bow out or need pushing is up to them, but change is coming!
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  3650. If you're worried about the economics, it was Thatcher that sold everything off for a bit of short term profit!
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  3651. Ultimately it's down to us. If a party won't be accountable to the voters, stop voting for them. We need to break the cycle of voting for the shiniest promise and then never checking back on how they are doing on fulfilling it
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  3652.  @antispindr8613  LBC is pretty opinionated, but actively organising protests against the government might be a step too far even for LBC! Organising protests is our job 😁
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  3653.  @antispindr8613  didn't he do that already, but acknowledged the Tories aren't going to do so without external pressure?
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  3654.  @antispindr8613  pretty sure he said it, but can't remember which one 🙁
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  3655. I am pretty sure that if you got all the Tankies in the country together, they'd both have a lovely afternoon in the pub Meanwhile, the Nat-Cs filled an entire conference. I know who I am most worried about!
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  3656. There's a lot there, so I'll stick with what I know How is giving money to private companies, rather than hiring and scaling up in-house not an ideological preference for privatisation? It's the same staff, often in the same building. The only difference is the extra beurocracy and fees taken by private management
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  3657.  @TM1337FalconPunch  isn't what Wes is doing exactly within the category of "making it impossible for the NHS to hire it's own staff" so they contract out (at greater cost) instead?
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  3658.  @TM1337FalconPunch  I am afraid I still can't see where it's quicker to go with the Wes Streeting plan, and definitely can't see it being more cost effective! If we need to pay higher wages, pay higher wages directly - it will still be cheaper than paying higher wages indirectly, plus the private contracting overheads
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  3659.  @TM1337FalconPunch  I have to admit you're right, I'm not understanding what's different 🙁
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  3660.  @jeremykille4689  do you honestly think there'd never be another murder if we deported all the brown people?
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  3661.  @jeremykille4689  youtube is eating posts again. It might be hard to continue this conversation 🙁
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  3662. I think legislation against hate speech is counterproductive. People have to choose to be respectful of their own free will, as coerced respect is meaningless. Equally, I have the free choice to not spend my time with hateful people, nor support such people with my money Solidarity against hate will leave hate withering away. You can't beat oppression with more oppression!
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  3663. Well, his former partner in crime Lord Frost is now busy telling everyone what a terrible deal Lord Frost negotiated Why can't Johnson go around campaigning to fix Johnson's mess?
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  3664. The EU is pretty open, you can see their accounting reports on their website. Can't say I've ever read one though, they're a few hundred pages long...
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  3665.  @paulanderson7796  either way, the Tories need to go!
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  3666. If you have a plan to get the Tories out today, I am all ears!
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  3667. He has been investigated. No action was required. Case closed (unlike the party animal Crime Minister. More fines incoming!)
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  3668. If we don't want billionaire leaders, all we have to do is not vote for them...
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  3669. You don't put an arsonist in charge of the fire service!
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  3670. ​ @qetoun you are putting absolute faith in international law protecting the UK, while assuming the UK can be cavalier with international law Both can't be true!
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  3671. ​ @jimherleva4541  For years after the referendum, you couldn't mention Brexit on YouTube without of a horde appearing to chant their "will of the people" slogans and post their little flags everywhere Nowadays? Not so much 😁
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  3672.  @ianross5019  that sounds like a slow and sluggish nightmare. Reacting to crises would be impossible! Being an MP is meant to be an active job - you learn about your brief and use that knowledge to drive policy. If we elect MPs that skive off from learning, that's on us
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  3673. ​ @stumac869 citation needed please!
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  3674. There's still the possibility that Boris pulls together the last few loyal supporters around him, and calls a General Election as one last, desperate all-or-nothing long shot...
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  3675. If the people in power do the same thing over and over, and it still doesn't work, why is James the mad one for pointing this out?
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  3676. So they are going to nationalise infrastructure, but hate socialism Make that make sense for me?
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  3677. ​ @1414141x there needs to be tax because hyperinflation is bad, and that's what would happen if taxes are stripped away
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  3678. ​ @daviesuk89 but if bankers quit their jobs in large numbers, nobody dies
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  3679. Yet his members still vote for him...
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  3680.  @mrmrgaming  I don't think people voted for Biden, they were voting against Trump. They were voting for Mick!
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  3681.  @royboy565  indeed 🙂
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  3682. Why would the billionaires who got rich on fossil fuel, use their control to make us use less fossil fuel?
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  3683.  @tonygange7636  People who work in supermarkets and hospitals deserve the pay rises Who can balance this out with job cuts? 🤔😁
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  3684. Kelvin, everybody loves wealth creation! Any idea when ordinary people will see some?
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  3685. ​ @andyf4292 given how bad it's got, they should be fined by having all the water infrastructure taken away from them They've had enough chances to make it work already!
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  3686. ​ @terrytheoldgoat haven't they been reducing their staff numbers? That's not going to help, no matter where they are working!
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  3687.  @terrytheoldgoat  but are they DVLA? New nurses are great if you're ill, and new police are great if you've been robbed, but they won't sort your driving licence application for you
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  3688.  @Jonnythebaker  what's your source, as the government figures I found were a quarter of that
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  3689. You say that money isn't ours, because it belongs to the government - but the government is ours, so collectively the money is ours, too We do own it. All of it 🙂
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  3690.  @revilokid  checks and balances are important, but that applies for technocrats, populists and anything in between!
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  3691. Is "Blitz" short for "watch how quickly I can repeatedly shoot myself in the foot"?
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  3692. Hmmm, YouTube didn't like my comment about trump. There was no profanity or threats Is YouTube shilling for Trump now?
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  3693.  @octavianpopescu4776  wierd how protective YouTube is, all of a sudden But rumours of political influence on social media companies are entirely false, obviously 🤔
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  3694. It's Farage that's chickening out - he's been invited on 🙂
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  3695. General Election Now!
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  3696. ​ @RGBmode it's not unfunded if it's investment that pays for itself over time Businesses borrow to grow all.the time. Governments can and should do the same
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  3697. I don't expect miracles, but would like a government that prioritises peoples needs over making their chums lots of easy money
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  3698. I get it that cases involving corporate paper trails take longer to investigate than an assault caught on CCTV - but this is dragging on far too long
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  3699. I think Dale could do with holding the poverty card. Bet he won't like it!
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  3700. As opposed to Tory MPs and corrupt deals?
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  3701. ​@joepaluka9031 but under PR, Portillo would never have been in governmnent in the first place! At best, he would be part of a coalition which would have blocked the most extreme vandalism of Thatcher. Wouldn't that have been better than where we ended up?
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  3702.  @joepaluka9031  and which of those countries would be improved by giving their largest minority party absolute power?
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  3703. You jest, but what if we called it insurance instead - paying when times are good, so there's a safety net when times are bad? You're still going to be able to afford plenty of creature comforts from a success, and have the peace of mind that you're not alone if your fortunes change
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  3704. Yeah, it was a silly plan to sell off all the national assets
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  3705. Youtube, what's so offensive about discussing privatisation? Why are you hiding my post about it?
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  3706.  @ChrisLee-yr7tz  citation needed on that one, please
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  3707. "I haven't a clue what I am doing with money, except in an election when you should totally trust me with the public purse" 🤔
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  3708. The eternal retake - that wasn't real conservatism, but give us another 5 years and next time we'll do it right! 🤔
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  3709.  @taffyman6089  oh, definitely. The "obviously Jewish" line was a mistake, but an understandable one when under pressure Falter was clearly being a deliberate problem. I am not going to insult Falter's intellect and seriously claim he doesn't know how a one-way flow works. He knew, and he ignored it to provoke people
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  3710.  @taffyman6089  but that wasn't why he was being moved on, and it was an error to talk about it in that context Stick to his behaviour, which was clearly intended to stir trouble!
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  3711. ​ @SlowhandGreg Well, Driscoll is a proven electable candidate, and they don't want him - what gives?
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  3712. ​ @blueodum because there's a lot of overlap between domestic cleanup and getting in shape to rejoin?
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  3713. I now carry a plain piece of paper with me at all times, instant protest kit Wonder if they'll get to peak absurdity and start confiscating paper from people?
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  3714.  @nathaneddy502  Guess I'll see! I will be very surprised if I get arrested, they know even the Daily Mail crowd wouldn't be comfortable with Putin levels of suppressing messages that haven't been written yet! I can see them being ordered to confiscate paper though. Not a problem if that happens, plenty more where the first one came from 😁
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  3715. If public money is used to fix it up, should the public not own something for that investment?
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  3716. It's the worst one, but far from the only one... 🙁
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  3717.  @johnrussell3961  "Don't put up wages or we'll trash the country" sounds utterly insane, and thus sadly all too credible from the Neoliberal ultras currently in charge ☹
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  3718. ​ @inuwooddog3027 Germany 1940 is definitely a nuanced scenario. The post WW1 settlement was brutally punitive, and the Germans who were too young to have any responsibility for it absolutely had a case to reject it It is also definitely the case that the individual who exploited that anger did so in a horrific and despicable way that cannot be condoned
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  3719. True this! If there's one thing we are still world-beating on, it's snark, sarcasm and cynicism! The Tories should be proud that the people can still show their world-beating talents 🤣
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  3720. I can - all of the media opportunities, none of the actual work or responsibility!
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  3721. There's no way the king of the centrist liberal dads is far left 🙄
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  3722.  @glennsheppard4240  It was totally without taxpayer consent, this wasn't in the manifesto they were elected on. If they want a mid-term change of direction like this, they need to justify it or expect exactly this kind of backlash
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  3723. ​ @warrenchu5752 surely that depends on the tax policy?
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  3724.  @warrenchu5752  Americas economic golden age was also when it had high taxes Likewise postwar Britain, all of Scandanavia...
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  3725. Inflation is external, and will be falling whatever we do The stagnation is government policy, and increasing wages will ease that
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  3726. ​ @rupertrussell1 and this is the con - get crypto bros into governmnent - get the government to buy your digital asset bubble for real money - take the real money and run, leaving the taxpayer holding assets which become worthless when the bubble pops Windfall tax the lot of them when the bubble bursts!
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  3727. ​ @keithparker1346 while we do have to be careful not to go Full Zimbabwe, it is true that Reeves is being too conservative, small and large C!
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  3728. ​ @ashm-wl4xg well, about a third of their constituents...
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  3729.  @SirHargreeves  Largely the middle class, and they are being sqeezed too so Truss can continue subsidising the already rich. There won't be anything to squeeze soon
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  3730. Um, no? Trade deals are rewritten all the time. Usually modest, incremental changes to reflect the changes in the underlying economies over time, but bigger changes are possible and entirely normal if the circumstances justify it
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  3731. or maybe Capitalism is when you use money to shut out competition, and all that's changed is now the mask has dropped?
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  3732. @Steve C  we have the opposite of a flooded labour market, yet wages are still low. Could it be that migrants are a scapegoat used to distract from the real problem?
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  3733.  @terryj50  "The rules on social security coordination do not replace national systems with a single European one. All countries are free to decide who is to be insured under their legislation, which benefits are granted and under what conditions." Welfare is a national competency. That's copied directly off the EU website 🙄
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  3734.  @terryj50  apologies, I think YouTube has eaten that post, I can't see anything quoting the BBC 🙁
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  3735.  @terryj50  that is a frustrating situation, I know a few people who have had do deal with UK immigration for foreign born partners, it's a horrendous beurocratic mess Leaving the EU hasn't fixed that though, it's still as horrendous as ever, if not worse than ever!
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  3736. ​@jjsmallpiece9234 I think it's a great idea to aim for 60% or higher No "unfinished business" when we Rejoin 🙂
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  3737. It's not just salary, it's pensions too. The Thatcherites said you need a private pension, don't assume the state pension will be enough Then in the next breath they raid those pensions and try to take them away. First they snatched our milk, but they won't stop til they've snatched everything!
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  3738. Just think of the thick walls and solid bars he'll be protected by! /s
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  3739.  @Purewalite  which one? Looks like he's done quite a few!
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  3740. Compulsory jobs? Sounds a bit commie to me!
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  3741. I am disappointed in Starmer, but calling him a "terror organisation" is a bit much!
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  3742.  @An-Alien-On-Earth  Jon Stewart definitely isn't a terror organisation either
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  3743. I suspect it will be Mogg's grandkids that benefit, not ours...
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  3744.  @ashleygraham8781  it gets really creepy when every discussion ends up being about penises, don't you think?
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  3745. @Ashley Graham  here's a thought - why don't we condemn rapists, whether they wear a dress, or a police uniform, and not throw entire groups of people under the bus for the actions of a tiny few?
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  3746.  @ashleygraham8781  do you realise when you're tarring everyone with the same brush, based on a noisy few? As you've done it again here
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  3747.  @ashleygraham8781  what point are you hoping to make?
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  3748. @Ashley Graham  the post where you brought penises into a conversation about workers rights?
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  3749. In the end, that was his point though! We left the EU to stop the long-dead Thatcher making decisions in Westminster 🤦‍♂️
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  3750. ​ @OrcusMaximus  you forgot the sarcasm quotes around Tufton St "experts"
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  3751. So make people work against their will? We have a name for that, what is it?
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  3752. All those old people, not dying off like they used to! How selfish! I am completely joking, but I am serious about the demographic change that politicians on both sides have been ignoring for decades. They've been talking about it since the 1990s, but they haven't done anything to prepare!
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  3753. "Christians" like this make me sad for genuine Christians like you
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  3754. Enough about MPs though, give nurses a pay rise!
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  3755. ​ @timelwell7002 Starmer has done a classic Starmer and planted his arse firmly on the fence on PR Basically he won't take a position, so if we can get strong public support for it, he'll deign to put his name on the act of Parliament At least he's stopped opposing PR...
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  3756.  @myrants5836  Where are they then? We're struggling to fill vacancies already!
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  3757.  @myrants5836  we don't have enough teaching capacity. We have problems layered on problems already, encouraging staff to quit is not wise right now
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  3758. Yeah. The MPs most likely to hold are the extremists, and the membership are also nuts No moderate has a chance of gaining leadership in the Tory party I expect to see post election
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  3759. ​@OptimisticHominid we need to vote for the least-worst option We need to support people pushing for better, otherwise we will forever be picking the least worst of the bad options presented!
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  3760. I have to agree with and emphasise the point about "getting the same coverage as the Greens" Farage might be getting similar coverage now - but looking back the balance is nowhere near fair!
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  3761.  @nigelsynnott7344  anyone willing to make Britain poorer so they can get rich and run away, isn't very British, no?
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  3762. CULTURAL FEUDALISM!!!!!!!!
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  3763.  @danielwebb8402  so the railway is a utility then? In which case it should be nationalised and nobody should be profiting from it
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  3764. Tory Members are certifiably loopy?
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  3765.  @yiannismcaughrey1999  In Italy, a cabinet reshuffle counts as a new government. By that standard, how many changes has our FPTP strong and stable Tory government been through recently?
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  3766.  @yiannismcaughrey1999  Perhaps some things are best not rushed? Maybe a bit more discussion and collaboration will prevent policy announcements which get abandoned 24 hours later!
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  3767. Maybe she thinks we are as clever as she is? 🤣
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  3768. I'd love to leave Boris alone. On the moon should be alone enough, but if anyone has a Mars rocket ready to go...
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  3769. ​ @davidgreen6490 really? Because I also like to check out a range of views, and even the TalkTV crowd think profiting from poo in the water is unacceptable The majority want to socialise the water companies and boot the incompetent failures out of our infrastructure
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  3770. ​ @lilscottieme  look at all the people pushing back against nurses getting a proper wage because "we can't afford it" By supporting inequality over nurses, they are feeding into the system. This behaviour will change, the more people inderstand how money works on the national and global scale
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  3771. ​ @therealrobertbirchall nothing to add, other than support and confirmation!
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  3772. @AdamTV  you could take a more Keynesian approach too if you prefer, and keep a credit card model, but allow a higher limit when more investment is needed You can frame the same result with different models when that makes sense 🙂
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  3773. Canning was 118 days, although he died of illness rather than getting booted out
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  3774. ​ @realtijuana5998 also Truss and Kwarteng
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  3775. On one single point mentioned, I reckon Thangam Debbonaire would have lost her seat to Carla Denyer regardless of Gaza. The Green vote was growing in Bristol long before Oct 7th
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  3776. ​@madMARTYNmarsh1981 I like the NHS, so I don't like right wingers who want to sell it off to private medical companies
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  3777.  @YA-hm5zy  It's shocking really. They subcontract big chunks of it to private companies and it goes wrong, yet their solution to the problems that occurred when they subcontracted to private companies is more privatisation? Can you imagine pulling the same logic? "Yeah, I was late to work and didn't get everything finished, so I propose to fix it, tomorrow I won't come into work at all!"
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  3778.  @starmersbarber  100% with you on that one!
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  3779. or please let them keep digging, til we never have to see them again
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  3780. I agree we shouldn't be involved with the mess Cut all ties and supply chains to Isreal, now!
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  3781. They deploy it in the property market to stop ordinary people buying their own house
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  3782. Are you renting, leasing, or buying on credit?
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  3783. Well, now we have a worker shortage There's not been an increase in wages though
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  3784. Realistically, this is needed in our FPTP voting system - a lot of support in one constituency wins a seat, the same support spread out wins none However, you can't treat volunteers as servants. There's ways to inspire and encourage people to campaign elsewhere, and Starmer's way is not even close to the best way!
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  3785. I smile every time I hear "God save our gracious Que-ing" before the football 🤣
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  3786. Hunts luxury flat portfolio is returning 18% higher rents than last year Guess he's doing alright...
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  3787. We definitely need to scrutinise government contracts for conflicts of interest, and whether they offer good value for money Both Labour and Conservative have suspect histories here, although the Tory history is more blatant and open
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  3788. "If you want a tasty PFI deal, my door is always open"...
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  3789. 19% would get them back to the real terms pay nurses had under Labour If the Tories can't afford it, it's a confession that the economy was better under Labour
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  3790.  @ColaSpandex  yes 🙂
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  3791. ​ @alexanders7569 join a better party then...
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  3792. If his members think he is delivering, is there an issue?
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  3793.  @lestrem11  It takes two to tango. The government need to share that blame for being unable to come to a settlement. They've had plenty of time to work something out!
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  3794.  @lestrem11  Because they have the power to control the terms of the settlement, and keep using that power to keep dragging the negotiation out
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  3795.  @lestrem11  Mick's being very open about progress, or the lack of it. The government are stubborn, to the extent that you might suspect they want a dramatic public fight. Could that be what they are doing?
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  3796.  @lestrem11  🙄
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  3797.  @lestrem11  How about the executives and shareholders look for some modernisation and efficiency savings? I know for a fact there's a lot of fat that could be trimmed there!
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  3798.  @lestrem11  If it's that simple we would have done it already. File "driverless trains" in the same file as "technological solutions for border security"!
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  3799.  @glossypeacock7552  I am not talking about us. Look at the whole world, and find me an example where picking fights with your neighbours was a winning plan. Across the globe and back through history, alliance and diplomacy has paid off far more than belligerence and hostility
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  3800.  @glossypeacock7552  so you're saying if a government starts getting a bit too nationalist, neighbours should intervene early before it grows into a big problem?
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  3801. If there are no kids attached to army bases, why do we have the phrase "army brat"?
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  3802.  @rashawnpatton7356  Let's hope Truss and pals can shake a few people out of their old habits!
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  3803. Only green are offering any, so that's a trick question!
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  3804. Letting entitled man-toddlers steer government isn't how you should run a country!
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  3805.  @JupiterThunder  so "fiscal responsibility" is quitting your job rather than buying a car on credit?
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  3806. Of you're talking about the fallout from the Sun article, Clarkson's job is to create profitable entertainment. If he damages his ability to be profitable he won't have his contract renewed Stuart did something that had a minor impact on his work, and could have been corrected with a formal disciplinary process. He wasn't sacked for what they say he was sacked for
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  3807. I can't see the finance sector being given access to the Euro markets without adopting the Euro ourselves
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  3808.  @mogznwaz  not everyone's taxes - just those who've been dodging taxes and reaping the benefits of society without properly contributing to society
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  3809. @inbb510  that kind of identity politics is socially liberal right, it's not leftist at all!
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  3810. @paultaylor7082  they've gone beyond "if it isn't broken" - they just don't fix anything !
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  3811.  @petefl1818  I am wondering how productive his investment activity is. The Tories always say we need to let rich people get richer as they'll create high paying jobs John, how's your track record on creating high paying jobs?
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  3812. Tory MPs? 🤣
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  3813.  @EyebrowsGaming  They worked it out, perhaps a bit later than ideal, but better late than never!
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  3814. So we got "jump off the cliff" done, what next?
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  3815. @Anonymous Illuminatus  there are ludicrously expensive, high maintenance machines that can do it, but they are prototypes, nothing you can use at scale Maybe they'll be viable in future, but not today
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  3816.  @lolawilson8144  do you speak French?
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  3817. @lolawilson8144  so you acknowledge that Afghanistan is a dangerous place that people would want to escape from?
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  3818.  @lolawilson8144  hopefully their families are somewhere safe for now, while the husband finds somewhere safer
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  3819.  @lolawilson8144  Fail to look after our public services and infrastructure, and our standard of life falls We're not going to run services without workers. We already have almost half the population being to young or too old to work. We need working age people to come here to keep everything running
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  3820.  @lolawilson8144  absolutely agree that the two party stitchup needs to be ended though!
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  3821. ​ @keithparker1346 some of it will definitely be people giving up in stress and confusion from trying to deal with the willfully awful system
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  3822. So true! Nobody wants to nationalise our utilities, even though privatisation has been a total shambles
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  3823.  @George-nv1ri  then you need a full proposal - if we don't have immigration, who's filling the job vacancies as people retire? We have more old people than young people - that's the challenge you need to answer if you want to be taken seriously on immigration
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  3824.  @George-nv1ri  can you get a mandate for you policies? I suspect you'll have a fight raising the retirement age, and telling people they have to carry accidental pregnancies to term sounds very authoritarian - I don't agree with that, and know I'm not alone!
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  3825.  @George-nv1ri  well, many (but not all) people with concerns about immigration are either retired, or close to retirement All they need to do to reduce immigration is not retire, or come out of retirement. If they do those jobs, immigration will naturally fall without any government intervention needed
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  3826. Did you research her criminal record too? I suggest you do!
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  3827.  @awakeandaware1528  whichever party is best placed to boot the Tories out if your constituency
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  3828.  @awakeandaware1528  it's poor, only having to choices in politics, but unless we demand a better system, that's how it works Pick Red, pick Blue, or don't complain when you get what other people chose for you. What do you think you'll do?
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  3829. What's he been saying? I searched the parlimentary record and didn't find anything that stood out. That said, the record is huge and it's easy to miss things! Maybe you can point me in the right direction?
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  3830. ​@Benzknees that presumes it gets spent, and not stashed in tax havens or rentier assets
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  3831. I am going on holiday this year, but I paid for it two years ago and getting a refund is proving impossible. No point throwing it away, is there?
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  3832. The financial incompetence and hyperinflation isn't a good look
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  3833. @Helpm'boab still fits - China's economy is starting to look shaky
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  3834.  @hayleylongster4698  So true! There are people quick to point at the pandemic, but austerity started long before Covid If we have to wait until there's nothing else going on in the world, we'd be waiting forever!
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  3835.  @Moleena  I don't know about that one. What was said?
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  3836.  @Moleena  That is a very interesting case. I don't want to put words in her mouth, but I would suspect she grew up worrying she'd face barriers because she's a lesbian, but instead he is being marginalised for being conservative Is it presumptious to assume that she should know more than most about how to achieve acceptance than most, as she has already been there before?
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  3837.  @Saoirse_don_Phalaistín  neurodiversity is literally different ways of thinking! How else could you define it? And for what it's worth, the causality is home ownership and having children. People with houses and kids trend more conservative regardless of age, and if you're old with neither you tend to stay radical. Was Thatcher a genius or just lucky when she gave lots of people a chance to buy houses on the cheap?
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  3838.  @Saoirse_don_Phalaistín  would religion be a better analogy? You might be getting the wrong end of the stick a bit though, apologies if my focus was unclear. My argument is not that the characteristics are directly comparable, rather that there are numerous examples of political campaigns and social activism that achieved greater levels of acceptance for groups who previously were actively excluded Conservatives could learn from all those fine examples rather than whining about it and expecting someone else to do the work for them!
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  3839.  @Saoirse_don_Phalaistín  we are getting deep into psychology and philosophy now, but if you believe your outlook to be fixed and unchangeable, how different is that to a born characteristic? And if that's too highbrow, on a more practical level, we have a section of society who are struggling to come to terms with their place in the modern world. I am just hoping to give them something more constructive to do than mope and whine about how they feel right now!
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  3840.  @Saoirse_don_Phalaistín  I am enjoying this discussion, it is very enlightening! Again, all I hoped to achieve is to give people who are struggling emotionally a starting point to engage constructively with the rest of society. If I gain and learn from this discussion, that's a bonus!
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  3841. Great summary - vote Green!
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  3842. Except austerity was completely unnecessary. The economy was starting to grow in 2010, and Osborne's intervention ended the emerging recovery, leaving the UK flatlined til this day Austerity was an ideological choice to strip away public services. There was no economic need for it
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  3843. The Penis Police are so silly. Are penises really the biggest issue in the country right now?
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  3844. Wasn't the unions who put the son of a KGB officer in the House of Lords...
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  3845. Do you mean landlords, or entrepreneurs? They're not the same thing
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  3846. Don't agree with sacking the workers, but I am definitely up for the change in management!
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  3847. Carla Denyer said Kier had changed the Labour party - into the Tories Carla Denyer is correct!
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  3848. There used to be a revolving door between the Tory party and the Boardrooms of multinationals Now it's just an open plan office
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  3849.  @annepoitrineau5650  in Susan Hall's case, that might be safer than expecting her to discuss policy!
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  3850. but to continue your analogy, the chef is out the back taking a break, and the manager is sat there too, telling the front of house staff to blame the customers for the problem!
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  3851.  @djbogz1921  Have any of this government shown any sign of doing that? No, if anything they've gone to the fridge, made themselves a snack and gone back outside
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  3852. We need investment, but despite all the promises nothing has trickled down Time to tax stagnant wealth and put it to better use 🙂
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  3853. The Swedish government is about as right wing as John Major was, and we've yet to see where the Italian government settles. They've made statements all over the centre right to far right spectrum and as always with Italian politics, it will probably all change in six months anyway!
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  3854.  @mariafrost1762  it will be interesting to see what their objections are. Do Italian bankers need bigger bonuses too? 🤔
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  3855. ​ @deemitchell9544 definitely antisemitic. You don't get kicked out of Labour for being transphobic 😡
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  3856. Why aren't you a fan of Labour?
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  3857. The explaination that makes most sense to me isn't conspiracy, but distraction. Netanyahu and his inner circle were using the army in the west bank because they thought it would secure their political careers Because they were using the IDF for their little scheme, they got complacent about the warnings about a possible attack from Gaza Still corrupt, in that they were using the army for their personal priorities rather than protecting their citizens, but not a conspiracy with Hamas
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  3858. I thought Thatcher destroyed British industry when she decided we were all going to be bankers now?
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  3859.  @startrooper690  that's a problem, as our financialised economy is starting to eat itself, and we could really do with some fallback options right now!
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  3860. Do you really want a referendum about vets paperwork for food animals? Who's going to go to the polling booth for that?
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  3861. ​ @danielpye7738 I'm tired of casino banking causing financial chaos. If they aren't part of the same society as us, no bailouts from us next time they crash everything We should protect ourselves, not the people who cause crashes
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  3862.  @iLAGnDC  they are passing through if they don't intend to settle in France. I am struggling at bit here, as that seemed obvious. What did I miss?
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  3863.  @cynthiamorris1874  then their claim would fail,if anyone was actually doing claim assessments...
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  3864.  @beadlespixelplayground  both can be true. There is corrupt private subcontracting, and funding per head is below average compared to our peers
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  3865.  @beadlespixelplayground  we're not highly taxed, we're taxing the wrong people
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  3866. No taxation without representation though?
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  3867.  @B-26354  I think it speaks to fairness and democracy in general, even if it doesn't have a legal foundation. If someone is working and contributing to the community, in tax and socially, why shouldn't they have representation in government?
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  3868.  @billgreen576  I politely disagree. If people see a Labour win as a miraculous fix-all, the backlash of disappointment may bring the Tories right back in If expectations are tempered, we have something realistic to build on 🙂
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  3869.  @reardelt  Braverman is part of a block of thirty or more MPs. If 30+ declarations of support went to Johnson or Maudaunt, things could have gone very differently!
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  3870.  @reardelt  maybe they are not sheep, but they do know the weight and value of acting in unison, and have been doing so for many years now I have no doubt that they would have acted together if they didn't get what they wanted
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  3871. Good question. Why didn't he find anyone? Where were they?
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  3872. ​ @stoptheworldiwannagetoff4780  To be fair, they might not have been lying. It could be they are incompetent and sincerely believed the daft things they were promising
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  3873. ​ @minorears5205 we've tried not taxing the ultra wealthy. We've tried it for 4 decades Can we try a different plan now?
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  3874.  @minorears5205  we have to call that bluff - they aren't investing while they are here, so what difference does it make if they aren't investing somewhere else, instead?
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  3875. @georginabryan4772  well, byline are about 20k ahead of Dan in fundraising. Shame 😁
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  3876. Islam has wealth redistribution as one of the five pillars. It's at least a little bit left wing 🙂
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  3877. You riot, you get arrested. True in Leeds, and everywhere else
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  3878. ​ @maplin007 tax stabilises the value, if taxes are well managed This low tax regime is going to make the dollar behave a lot like bitcoin - a cycle of hyperinflation and massive crashes
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  3879. ​@Wendeta-hq2cp so who decides the terms of this economic union, if you don't want an elected parliament?
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  3880.  @ptv8113  um, yeah we can. Every step we take to reduce fossil fuel usage also reduces our dependence on Putin's oil and gas. Two birds with the same stone!
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  3881.  @ptv8113  we can't cut it completely right now, but we can reduce the usage right now Every bit we do adds up and helps!
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  3882. We appear to be accelerating from daily scandal to hourly...
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  3883. ​ @realityalwaysbulliesopinio1961  Same difference? If Shapps and Co have sign-off on any terms, they need to be at the table!
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  3884.  @The_Phoenix_Saga  it works great in Finland, Norway and Sweden!
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  3885.  @The_Phoenix_Saga  paying the tax is good and fair, because it funds a nation that is there for you when you need it - good hospitals, functioning passport office, all the little details that make society work It also funds investment - infrastructure and training. That does far more to make a nation prosperous than letting money stagnate in tax havens. Invest in the country, and the country grows and pays it back. It's worked far more often than trickle down economics has!
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  3886.  @The_Phoenix_Saga  if you're just getting by, you won't be paying 60% tax!
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  3887.  @davidedwards1336  and if all the penises are properly accounted for, will that stop the economy crashing?
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  3888. We can't turn back time, but we can correct the course going forward. When we next elect a government, are we going to let the current crew double down on their current path, or do we change direction?
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  3889.  @ROMANSv1212  you have just touched on one of the greatest mysteries of grassroots politics! Which protests changed the world, and which ones made no difference? Which letters impact government policy, and which ones go straight to the bin? If I knew how to tell the difference I'd be out there doing it! I'll admit it can feel like there's nothing one person can do, but everything has to start somewhere. I'm still just getting curious myself, and seeing who is out there and what different groups are doing I think curiosity has worked well as a first step!
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  3890. I find it hard to care, because we have a future to build. If I do want justice, or vengeance, the best justice will be to build a world where people like Trump and Johnson can't rise to power That gives me energy! Punishment is irrelevant to me, if it doesn't stop the next narcissist from doing it all over again
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  3891.  @nick1065  have you seen how much there is to do here first?
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  3892. Play the ball, not the player. The anger is at how they behave, not how they were born!
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  3893.  @frankbrennan1619  higher than taxes under the Tories, after the Liz Truss and her Special Finacial Operation broke the economy?
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  3894. We shouldn't judge a politician by their background, but can we judge the background by the politicians it produces? The Oxford PPE degree isn't much good, based on the actions of the people who have one
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  3895. @Geffo555  PFI is very short-termist. It makes todays budget look good at the expense of long-term liabilities for the future
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  3896. Wes has the arrogance, but fortunately he's got some sense, unlike those two
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  3897. The cheek of a nimby Tory moaning about a lack of housing supply!
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  3898.  @wolfen210959  Parliament borrowed from the public purse, to give loads of money to their mates A pattern they've repeated, time and time again...
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  3899. I've tried to explain this to Starmerite loyalists so many times! Sure, Corbyn wasn't perfect, but the demonisation being directed at him doesn't just affect Corbyn himself - it turns away everyone who was excited by what he stood for By pushing away Corbyn, Labour have pushed away the many people who voted for him, because they want what Corbyn offered
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  3900. I have mixed feelings about Galloway, but of this I am certain - if we keep splitting and falling out the status quo parties will keep winning We need to acknowledge our differences, but not let those differences divide us. If we are divided, it's austerity forever 🙁
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  3901. The truth is somewhere in between. This is a two-round system, so the truth is 67% don't want Le Pen as their first choice How much of that 67% will accept Le Pen as a second choice, and how many choose anyone but Le Pen is the key question
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  3902.  @barryevans791  well, not our system. Our government is formed by the least small minority, which is rather weird when you think about it
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  3903. If you want to fight for Russian ideals, I imagine the Russian Army has a few vacancies going right now!
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  3904. I think I need to see some quotes to back this up. When have Labour ever said don't go to work?
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  3905. I do have to generalise a little here, and caveat that I know Not All People of a generation are the same etc etc but this is the society and economy they shaped. Why should they be shielded from the country they collectively created?
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  3906. It's important to remember Farage isn't this. He's got other plans (mostly involving making his chosen few ever wealthier) - immigration is just the distraction while he works on the plans he really cares about
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  3907. Trussonomics would be just as stupid if it was a Larry Truss behind the policy
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  3908.  @eliakimjosephsophia4542  We aren't growing much at all, about 0.5% a year, and the trend is to grow a bit less each year. As things stand we will soon have a shrinking population!
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  3909. You mentioned staff retention - and there is a retention problem!
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  3910. I hear he's more interested in taking Trumps money to help over there, and doesn't care about the UK
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  3911. @veemo8605  wonder if a large and influential member like France wanting such a thing could get it across the line?
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  3912. We don't need to import one, we've had a homegrown one all along 🙁
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  3913. They are understaffed - they are working hard, but two people can't do the work of four They want pay increases to try and improve recruitment, so they won't be short staffed
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  3914.  @nigelknight6688  sure,after he didn't take responsibility for his behaviour in lockdown, he can not take responsibility for the cost of living crisis, not take responsibility for Northern Ireland, not take responsibility... How much not taking responsibility do we have to put up with?
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  3915.  @nigelknight6688  I don't think that list is unfair, everything I mentioned is something he has made promises over
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  3916.  @allip4226  so you're saying the government should step in and nationalise the whole rail network?
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  3917. @timwoodger7896  Bannon will never agree with Sanders because Bannon doesn't actually want to fix the problem, he just wants to appear to care about fixing it Bannon is 100% comfortable with massive wealth inequality, as long as he doesn't get blamed for the problems
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  3918. As a family, the Sunaks are wealthier than the Windors from what I've heard
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  3919. A cancer that is localised to one place is easier to operate on than a cancer that has metastatised everywhere
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  3920. What would that even look like? That only 100% cis ethnonationalist companies are allowed as investments?
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  3921. Choice is good, and there's room for both 🙂
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  3922.  Macavity  Sorry/not sorry 😁
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  3923. @tonychorley4936  even in a new party, it creates the perception that you're just saying something to gain votes rather than being truly independent Journalism and analysis is part of politics, just as much as the elected representatives. I'd even say the people critiquing are more important than the people in the parliament
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  3924. ​ @pencilpauli9442  The current system lets plenty of far-right MPs in under the Tory banner The left doesn't have half as much success getting MPs in via Labour
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  3925. The energy companies said themselves that they aren't investing their windfall profits If we don't tax it, it just vanishes offshore, never to be seen again!
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  3926.  @martynblackburn9632  None that I remember, but I won't claim to be a historian of industrial action
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  3927.  @lloydnaylor6113  Interesting, your plan for stopping strikes that currently last for a few days is to force people to effectively be on strike forever? 🤔
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  3928.  @mydogeatspuke  Steve Barclay isn't short of opportunities to talk to the media. If he has a response to give, he can do so any time he likes! Reckon we'll ever get one?
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  3929.  @mydogeatspuke  also as she said, they've had 12 years. What makes you think today will be any different to those 12 years they've already had?
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  3930.  @mydogeatspuke  Disagree? I wish he said anything with enough substance to disagree with! He didn't say anything
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  3931.  @mydogeatspuke  In the five days you took to come up with that, Steve has also had five days to come up with a response and make a statement to the press... ... still no answer. He hasn't got one.
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  3932.  @mydogeatspuke  nothing getting done sounds like an average day for the current party in government!
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  3933. Slightly less awful than the previous 5
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  3934. Not sure the ethics advisor is responsible for legal advice on international trade agreements...
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  3935. If we side with no-one, then we're fair game to be pushed around by everyone Geopolitics gets pretty ruthless, especially once a major power starts causing disruption
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  3936.  @skyblazeeterno  are there any examples? Everyone I can think of is either big enough to stand alone, or in some kind of collective bloc (some more formally integrated than others)
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  3937.  @skyblazeeterno  they maintain a facade of independence, but in practice they are deeply integrated with the Single Market. There's no sane world where they'd side with anyone than the EU if someone like Trump forces them to declare a side
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  3938. More houses could be part of the solution, but creating more and better work across the country is the bigger part IMHO If we don't have huge numbers of people moving to the south for work, we wouldn't have so much pressure on housing in the area
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  3939. @ʃuðɼinga ƿeoɼc  my point is that there was a good month, but it was a one-off that isn't sustainable Our normal is way down 🙁
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  3940. Yep. We are all taking out a loan so they can keep the surprise profits bonus A surprise caused by Putin's invasion increasing demand. They are basically war profiteering...
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  3941.  @fundyden4771  I can find two on YouTube. One is a no-score draw, but the other is an absolute disaster for Mogg
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  3942.  @brookman9779  Knightsbridge and Chelsea are already full of immigrants - from Russia 🤔
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  3943. Sadly for us, definitely UK gov ☹️
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  3944.  @RichardOliver-s7d  you're not allowing for deaths. Sadly, people die, and if you include that our population growth is much slower than you're describing
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  3945. You're arguing that the brake and the accelerator are exactly the same thing, because they both change the speed of the car 🙄
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  3946. ​ @sliftyy le Pen is entirety capable of throwing the French economy in the dumpster, too
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  3947. It's a tough balance when there are people who can't stay on topic without regular intervention. In thise cases, you get a monologue if you don't cut in (ideally as politely as you can without being ineffective) Good discussion and debate benefits from both sides wanting to engage constructively 🙂
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  3948. Or drink it at home - even if you live alone you'll probably enjoy better company!
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  3949. ​ @sarahwagland1559 Do you stand with Hamas, or with Netanyahu?
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  3950.  @OneAndOnlyMe  Richard Murphy was describing generalised systems that would replace staff rather than assist them Maybe he's misinformed, but I'm responding to the claims as presented here
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  3951. ​ @JAEGATS I know, right? Bitter scrooges desperately trying to keep hold of everything, no matter how much it cripples the country 🙁
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  3952. There's always investment opportunities for Russian oligarchs and Saudi princes!
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  3953.  @wideyxyz2271  but not with absolute authority. His plan got clobbered by Reeves - and on that note, put her on the List of Shame ahead of Milliband, too!
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  3954. Those Russians flew in first class. Thats who gets the houses
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  3955. This is what I miss about the EU. A democratic government big enough to go toe to toe with even the biggest multinational if necessary!
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  3956. I agree we can't let any science become unchallenged, retesting and reevaluating is fundamental to the scientific process We do need to restrict those challenges so they need evidence though. Challenging science because it might inconvenience someone's ski holiday or day out at the horse races doesn't cut it...
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  3957. ​ @kwanchan6745 depends on your seat - there are some constituencies where the Greens are the strongest party outside the big two - check local polling, or previous results if there's no recent local poll data If the LibDems are the best option where you are, then go for it! 🙂
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  3958.  @kwanchan6745  so what you're saying is everyone has to unite on the Greens, or we get the landlords and shareholders party?
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  3959.  @kwanchan6745  It's widely observable that swing voters get listened to more than steadfast loyalists. It's not fair, but it's fact We need to prove that we are swing voters, so we get listened to. Right now, the Tories are tearing themselves apart. There will never be a better time to get the attention of the established parties
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  3960. All those millions of Brexiteers, yet nobody has a plan yet
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  3961. From a cynical finance angle, it could still be an investment that pays off with other policy decisions elsewhere. Maybe some cosy government contracts for firms they own are coming soon?
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  3962. ​ @keithparker1346 I agree that we should judge people by actions not looks, but this is a bit of both That picture is from the cover of the Evening Standard, a Tory leaning paper. It's highly likely she was involved in picking the picture, so one of the actions we can judge her on is looking at that picture, and saying "yeah, that's how I want to announce my candidacy on the front page of the newspaper!"
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  3963. On balance warehouses in the Netherlands and farmers in New Zealand have gained, and the UK has lost That kind of balance?
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  3964. Part of me wants this to be in the Tory manifesto - to watch all the young voters rush to vote against it!
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  3965.  @keithparker1346  fully agree! It's obvious this policy has a very specific target though, and I hope those targeted will react accordingly
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  3966. Propping up the pound cost as much as furlough did Two years of supporting ordinary people cost the same as supporting the Tories for two days
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  3967. ​ @tonyrobinson362 she shared a platform and talking points with people openly calling for an end of democracy That's not acceptable in a party that supports a democratic political system. She can have those views as a private citizen, but not as a member of a democratic party
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  3968. For all the criticisms of the EU, if you voted for a Brexit party MEP, you got a Brexit party MEP. How often does that happen with Westminster MPs?
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  3969. The Jungle Book one is a bit old, but when you nail it first time, why mess with perfection?
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  3970. It's a "vote for me" piece. In such articles, you mention previous politicians for one of two reasons - either to condemn them as failures and state how you are different, or remind people of their success, and imply that you are the natural successor to that legacy He didn't reference Thatcher as a failure...
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  3971. @magnificentbastard5085  if it was one article in isolation, then maybe I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. However, his economic policies are also pretty Thatcherish. There's a trend in his behaviour
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  3972. @alanbarker2279  I hope you're right! What is giving you hope? Where are you seeing Starmer setting a different course to the current direction?
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  3973. @magnificentbastard5085  I approve of the windfall tax! I just wish they could be so bold on day-to-day taxation too
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  3974. As someone who is not small-c conservative, I come here as Prof Tim is one of the few small-c voices still worthy of time and respect Long may this continue!
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  3975. Did GBNews just put 'growth plan' in sarcasm quotes?
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  3976. See, she only made a mistake once, that's not how you get away with it! You need to follow the Tory playbook and be jaw-droppingly incompetent all the time, so people can't keep up! /s
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  3977. ​ @skyblazeeterno  if you're talking about the "economically inactive", that includes people on early retirement You think a former senior manager is going to give up early retirement to work in a care home?
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  3978.  @vincentmckenna1755  Labour didn't jump on the bandwagon, they were the bandwagon! Labour was formed so Unions, and the workers they represent, had a voice in Parliament as well as in the workplace. That was the purpose of the party
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  3979.  @oneoflokis  I agree! Fascist Tories out first though 🙂
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  3980.  @nutyyyy  19% fixes all the pay freezes and gets them back to what they were paid under Labour. Labour could afford it, why can't the Tories?
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  3981. @Joe Hatton  Quick question - would you be happy getting on a high speed train, if you were told the driver is a rookie on minimum wage?
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  3982. The example fell apart when the capitalist loaned the money for an apple press, rather than buying the apple press themselves and using the monopoly to drive down the price of apples to keep the maximum juice profits for themselves
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  3983. ​ @andersk I approve of taxing low earners less. Will Reform balance this by taxing the top end more so we don't see another Truss moment?
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  3984. and by "better look" you mean "donate more"?
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  3985.  @davidlepage1183  while there are some dodgy laws that need reforming, the police should at least clear the very low bar of only arresting people who have broken a law Right now they can't even hit that very low expectation...
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  3986. I have friends who flew out to work on the German wind turbines. We should have more of them here, it's a decent job on good money!
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  3987.  @HBOMB-nl9pw  "go elsewhere" is exactly what they'll do. Then where is our emergency care going to come from? BUPA don't cover the emergencies!
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  3988.  @HBOMB-nl9pw  India is rising. They'll be poaching staff from here at this rate, not the other way around!
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  3989. Go and vote! Even spoiling your vote has value - it shows you're willing to vote, and that parties should try and win your vote Young people get ignored because politicians think they can get away with it. Turn up this time, and they won't ignore you next time!
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  3990.  @jonathantravels  if profits go to shareholders, it really isn't nationalised
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  3991.  @georgewright9914  I am talking about the 2007/8 one. He was in one of the key hedge funds that aggressively forced the banks into debt and forced the bailout
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  3992.  @hbpw857  A Labour government like in the 2000s, the best government I have known in my lifetime? Yeah, can't wait! Let's have one like that as soon as possible!
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  3993.  @simonsmith7251  France can't take everyone! What if we took a share of the refugees, maybe 1 in 3, something like that?
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  3994. Got any evidence they are against the strikes, or is this the "wisdom" of you and a few mates from down the pub?
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  3995.  @joemarshall4756  Sorry if I was a bit confrontational! I assumed you were being disingenuous, as the very next thing Marr said was to quote the opinion poll that backed up his claim. I jumped to the conclusion that you were trying to dismiss the evidence in the video
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  3996.  @neilchapman4037  Attlee managed it, we just need a government that wants to do it
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  3997. We aren't pissing away millions on garden bridges that were only ever an artist's sketch?
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  3998. @Simon Frost  Financially things will probably be slower, fair point Don't see why we have to be culturally isolated for decades though, and cultural connections will create financial links, although not as quickly as something like the Marshall plan!
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  3999.  @ptv8113  so, do you want to lose your arms or your legs?
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  4000.  @ptv8113  black and white answer, get off the fence! Arms or legs?
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  4001.  @ptv8113  Now, I think that's a fair answer, but Nick doesn't let you have both in your answer! You have to pick one, and lose the other. That's his rules, not mine
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  4002.  @ptv8113  I agree we mostly agree! We will never know what the caller was going to say though, as Nick was too obsessed playing silly interviewer games to listen to the answer ☹
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  4003.  @ptv8113  If I may, can I ask what you think Nick was hoping to achieve with that question? If the caller had stated one or the other as 'more important', what value would that add to the discussion?
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  4004.  @ptv8113  this is where I'm going to say agree to disagree, as it didn't feel like a useful starting point. If both are important, you don't need to be so obsessed with which one is most important, just move on to how we can address both with the same action, and discuss the tradeoffs where you can't fix one without compromising on the other. Dumping the whole interview over such a minor, subjective difference is petty... Unless there was an agenda here. I can't shake the feeling that Nick was trying to pull a childish gotcha here "Climate change is more important" - so you don't care about people in Ukraine dying? "The war in Ukraine is more important" - so you're not serious about this climate change business after all? It smelled like a setup, so I don't blame the guy for not wanting to walk into it. I think that's why Nick hung up - his silly game wasn't going to plan This
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  4005. We're short staffed and don't have the facilities...
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  4006. I am not so sure. I believe they gave Trump what he asked for, rather than what he really wanted And a token gesture toward what he asked for, at that
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  4007. If you break even, that's still better than prices going up and not getting a pay rise!
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  4008.  @normanchristie4524  I'll give the contest one thing - whoever wins, they've made a lot of promises. Said winner needs to be reminded of their past words come the General Election debates!
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  4009.  @bq4416  For comparison, German energy bills are up 20%, and they have to untangle a huge dependency on Russia. What's the excuse here in the UK?
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  4010. ​ @fridaber6069 is prices going up so terrible, if wages also increase in balance?
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  4011. You lost me when you claimed the Tories are socialist
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  4012.  @schrodingerscat1863  but that's One Nation Toryism - where you still have a hereditary elite, but the entitled few throw a few more scraps down than their more oppressive peers would It's not socialism until you actually give people power rather than charity
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  4013. Von Hindenburg: Electric Boogaloo
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  4014. Not quite random - predictable, but only at scale Take a coin flip - I can't predict when it will be heads, but I can predict that a heads is a near certainty if you flip a coin ten times. Stochastic describes such patterns - where you can predict something will happen, but not predict the specifics of where or when
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  4015. Tax our multimillionaires - after all, it's their property we're protecting. Why shouldn't they pay the most to keep it secure?
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  4016. Imagine being a Reform activist if they did? After years of calling the Tories "consocialists", you yield as soon as they demand it...
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  4017. ​ @vicibox I just can't see Starmer facing up to big challenges. His every action says he's trying to pretend it's 1997. He's cosplaying stable times rather than looking for contemporary solutions 🙁
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  4018. If managed well, we invite the Boomer generation from nations who boomed later than us, and internationally it all balances out I fear this lot are just winging it though, and might do exactly what you said 🙁
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  4019.  @waynewanderer  yep, left or right, if you threaten the cosy cronies and their money racket they really bury you!
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  4020. @lich2560  two different companies owned by Peter Hearn have donated to Wes. Hearn runs a recruitment agency that headhunts doctors for private medical practice
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  4021.  @tonygange7636  what's your evidence that there are millions undocumented and roaming freely? The statistics show millions being integrated, which is a very different thing (and isn't that many in a population of almost half a billion) As for the protests, they are happening everywhere. There's a minority who get really worked up about immigration, but they aren't representative of normal people
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  4022. It's not meant to be a competition...
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  4023. Any professionals who spent years of their life on training have a strong case to strike if their pay keeps shrinking or conditions are changed Who is going to commit to years of training if you can't trust the job you'll be going into at the end?
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  4024. I want to hold the Chancellor to a bit of a higher standard than "not screamingly incompetent and corrupt" 🙄
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  4025.  @johndownes3841  never have, never will!
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  4026. @ltmund  The EU has an executive formed of representatives from democratically elected national governments, and a directly elected legislature. Is that not democratic enough?
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  4027.  @adenwellsmith6908  but we have the exact same problem if you fill those roles with anyone. Even if you take the narrowest, natively born and bred workers you can define, the problem is still corporations not paying their way
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  4028.  @adenwellsmith6908  I'm not seeing this profit. The national account has a deficit, not a surplus
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  4029. Editorial bias is impossible to avoid. Even if you have the driest opinion-free facts and figures, you still have to curate which ones you present. There's only one front page, only one top headline Given that, it's best to know what the editorial bias is, then you know how to interpret their stories!
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  4030. Why London? We're not voting for the Fracking party!
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  4031. He's now only a constituency MP rather than a cabinet minister. He is still in parliament (unless his constituents vote him out next General Election!)
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  4032. Accountability is as important as making the decisions. I think James is exactly where democracy needs him to be 😉
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  4033. The only certainty is in 50 years, Rees Mogg will be dead, and thus beyond accountability for everything he is currently promising...
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  4034. Labour will manage it properly. There will be immigration, but organised and official, unlike the clueless shambles of the current government!
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  4035. ​ @MHLivestreams and the problem with Thatcherism is you quickly run out of public infrastructure to sell off!
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  4036.    well, if Hartlepool are so proud of their Tory food banks, they can keep voting Tory!
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  4037. Is it bad, that when I watch Liz Truss, all I see is Liv Struss with weak comic timing?
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  4038. Start coming up with solutions for where we find farm workers, doctors and nurses and so many other critical roles If that's too much work, I guess you have to accept things as best you can. Balls in your court now
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  4039. And they are building a whole new power company! That's got to count as a change, right?
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  4040. To adapt the old joke from American Politics One party wants to keep workers on the breadline, just about able to afford a roof and food, while the Tories want to work you to death and replace you when you fall
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  4041. They could, but I doubt they will 🙁
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  4042.  @notjustforhackers4252  which EU reg do you want to scrap first - holiday pay? Maternity leave? Want to understand your priorities better
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  4043. ​@Scott Smith You just sold it to me. More strikes!
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  4044. it's why I am preferring solidarity to tolerance nowadays
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  4045. Vaccines won't save you if you're having a heart attack in the car park and there's no beds inside the hospital
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  4046. ​@barrydwyer2039 problem is we don't have enough in-house civil servants, and instead have lots of private subcontracts to the likes of Serco and Deloitte
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  4047.  @hetrodoxly1203  well, let's see then!
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  4048.  @hetrodoxly1203  excellent! More examples to compare against 🙂
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  4049.  @woofpet  or perhaps more accurately, "full speed running on the spot!"
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  4050. ​@fatherjack1148 true that they are all thatcherites, but blue are far worse than red...
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  4051. Also, knock someone on their arse and you're near guaranteed a free hit, whether they are in light clothing or full armour It's hard to pick yourself up and maintain a guard at the same time
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  4052. ​ @riffraff9506 she was a senior member of a charity that trained lawyers. Many of the people she worked with are now senior members of the Rwandan government It's not cast-iron proof of corruption, but it is opportunity
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  4053. I hope not, they still think Truss was on the right track 😳
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  4054.  @senorspicyboi  if you're being ghettoed because of your skin colour, that's more than a small difference! But we can acknowledge that unfairness while standing together against the root cause of mutual problems If anything, acknowledging that some people are getting screwed harder than others builds the sort of understanding that creates solidarity
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  4055.  @senorspicyboi  but the system is broken. If you have a "black" sounding name, you have about a 25% chance of being picked for a job interview vs a "white" sounding name While things like this can be measured and proved, we can't pretend that society is fair, and minorities would be fine if they just pull their socks up and get on with it Lots of us are getting screwed, but some are measurably getting screwed harder
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  4056. ​ @Daniel-py6rd grooming gangs are a serious problem, but it's racist to pretend they don't also come in white!
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  4057.  @peterah7957  don't you think they're having more influence from where they are? They can focus on a few key issues as things stand, while party politics requires you to cover everything all at once
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  4058. Rishi seems to think hedge funds and landlords are "ordinary workers" If he lived in the real world, he'd realise how utterly clueless he sounds when he says things were good under the Tories!
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  4059. Because without it, we don't have a currency
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  4060.  @edwardmclaughlin7935  you could rename/reinvent it, but something has to be the issuer of currency. If not the BoE, then something that's effectively the BoE under a different name
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  4061.  @rickymort135  is there someone who has an economic argument for PFIs? I've looked quite a bit and not found one
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  4062.  @garrywynne1218  If work isn't covering the true expenses of an employee, then employers need to pay more, either directly in wages, or in tax to cover shared costs like the NHS. Privatising the profits and socialising the costs needs to stop!
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  4063.  @garrywynne1218  It's a tough one to answer without knowing what those low paid jobs are. A lot of low paid jobs are pretty essential - cate home staff, supermarkets etc If we don't pay for them (directly and indirectly), what do our lives look like?
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  4064. you can't just vote free money into existence!
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  4065. ​ @keithparker1346  but if there was the same increase through an increased birthrate, would there be a "baby problem"?
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  4066. Are these the same work from home jobs that his colleague Mogg wants to force into offices? Typically contradictory thinking from the GBNews crew and Tories...
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  4067. ​ @danielpye7738 printing money is step one Taxing stagnant money is step two, which balances things so inflation stays manageable You are entirely correct that doing step one without step two would be very silly!
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  4068. Not true. Labour are a centre right party with a few socialists in the membership. The Tories are a centre right party with more than a few fascists in the membership Pick your flavour of radical agitator working behind the scenes!
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  4069. I see room for a civil discussion. Anyone who even mentions Rwanda isn't part of that discussion though!
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  4070. @Mr Smith She doesn't need much controlling. She doesn't have many principles, but the one she has stuck to is to be a ultra Thatcherite determined to trash the infrastructure of the country 🙁
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  4071. So those wages are great now, surely! Are they?
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  4072. ​ @frankyboy1131 beats dictatorship!
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  4073.  @susanplatt5331  yep. Whichever way you argue it, be they innocent children or the worst criminals, how is this government losing so many people?
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  4074. Stop the small boats. Provide proper ferries instead
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  4075.  @mesolithicman164  so what institutions should we value? Probably not Oxford and Cambridge, after their politics and economics graduates crashed the economy If there are smart, capable people coming out of those institutions, they clearly aren't the ones going into government!
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  4076. ​ @Rejoin_2023  they always have, I suspect
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  4077. ​ @jjefferyworboys8138 They have so much money that they are on record saying they literally don't know what to do with it We know what we can do with it, so we're helping them out if we tax them!
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  4078. ​@user-ue8nw6ln1u "Socialism as a philosophy is all about conformity and control" said absolutely nobody, ever who has real-world experience of leftist infighting 🙄
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  4079.  @AdrianLee-i7g  but they ain't socialist, they're classic dictatorships with a populist propaganda wing
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  4080. Everyone is motivated by food and shelter though, and while we're not going to starve, we are going to struggle We need the economy fixing, and fixing so it serves the needs of ordinary people, not shareholders and hedge funds
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  4081. I can offer one small consolation - once she sees her TODO list that smile won't last long...
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  4082. Expensive oil and gas is killing UK business We need to move to cheap solar and wind urgently
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  4083. The big takeaway I got from this - GB"News" is not news!
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  4084.  @TheGazza636  well, never trust a Tory. Everyone learns it sooner or later!
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  4085. Odd how these free market champions never allow the free market near their job! I bet there's plenty of people could do as good or better for half what he's on
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  4086. We do have to take money out of the system, but there's no room left to tighten wages. It will have to come from somewhere else!
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  4087. Let Boris Johnson do it - he loves a chance to get his army gear on!
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  4088.  @SlowhandGreg  A lot of rich people see press misdirection as an investment. Those tax cuts pay off! They can pay people to keep the deception alive with enough left over to stuff in the offshore tax haven
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  4089. and also because they "understand" large donations
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  4090.  @AIJimmybad  so you're saying we should tax billionaires more? I agree!
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  4091.  @britnatzaredemocracydenier5922  If you wanted to talk policies, talk policies. You made this about "of the people" ness
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  4092.  @britnatzaredemocracydenier5922  He's not the Tories, in places where there's no SNP Sometimes, you have to take the small win if no big win is on the table
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  4093. Then let's have an election and put your assertion to the test!
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  4094.  @Mallard942  it is true there are checks and balances After the Trussonomics incident, I am wishing we had more of those in the UK!
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  4095. It's very likely the population will stabilise soon. The population spike in the Boomer generation was a one-off, and (to try and be tactful) this generation won't be around forever
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  4096. It's a corporate union - the rules are set in boardrooms
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  4097. ​@jackarcher9652 so you only like democracy when you get the result you want?
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  4098.  @NeonVisual  no, democracy operates on always being able to change your mind - a democracy that stops voting is no longer a democracy!
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  4099. Do you not find it a bit weird when he sits there going "I am against authoritarianism! Everyone should do it my way!"?
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  4100. The population is shrinking If we don't have immigration who will do the work that needs young, healthy people to do it? There's a lot of jobs you don't want to still be doing when approaching pension age!
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  4101. Where is voter responsibility here? There's always going to be a Party representing rich people who want to dodge taxes and responsibilities The question is, why do ordinary people vote for them?
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  4102. He currently is Should he be?
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  4103. @terryboland3816  I've made my point, and there's no point labouring it I'll keep reading your posts, and will reply if you improve your standard. All the best, hope you rise to the challenge!
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  4104.  @arjanv45  I would add that voting has consequences. The Tories gained a majority, so now we have Tory policies. Why are so many surprised at this?
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  4105. Because they don't? 🤔
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  4106. Don't see anything wrong with devolution - central control is notoriously blind to the detail required to manage anything other than broad, high level policy
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  4107.  @arthurdixon5890  is this not an inevitable result of out-of-touch policies from a remote and out-of-touch centralised government?
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  4108.  @arthurdixon5890  I agree we need devolved governments in England, too - Westminster is just too remote to know what problems need solving outside of Knightsbridge and Chelsea
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  4109. @arthurdixon5890  but united doesn't mean blanket one-size-fits-none policies. It should be about sharing efforts that benefit from being done at scale, while tailoring everything else to local needs
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  4110.  @arthurdixon5890  even if you have a perfect constituency MP, you still have the one-size-fits-none problem. Your MP has to find a compromise with every other constituency MP for the national policy, rather than each region adapting to local needs
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  4111.  @arthurdixon5890  that seems like a very extreme take on togetherness - community is about connection, not conformity. The high modernist standardisation from above mindset fails every time it is tried - the only question is whether it fails gently or catastrophically
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  4112. It is said that you're a native Londoner from the first time you complain about the bloody tourists standing on the left By that measure, London was built by natives 😁
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  4113.  @tt-ew7rx  I suspect she'd fail the same standard, and that there's people born on the other side of the planet who get day-to-day London better than Hall does!
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  4114. Why not lower than initial? Management have neglected maintenance, so the company has liabilities The value should reflect the state it's now in!
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  4115.  @jjefferyworboys8138  I have common sense. If you buy a thing and don't look after it, the second hand price for your battered old thing will be much lower than the original price
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  4116.  @oliverkitkat6860  I agree, Starmer is the sort of person that needs to hear what people want, but that's not a bad thing! We should be more politically active as a nation and have leaders who have a healthy relationship with grassroots campaigns and local politics Truss is the sort of leader who has the 'confidence' to not need grassroots support, and look where that gets us!
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  4117. The Tories don't want to fix it. They get endless headlines to distract from their incompetence, and their chums who own hotels get a captive audience at the taxpayer's expense
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  4118.  @josephjefferson9346  that's fair, but totally affordable, so they'll probably still move
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  4119.  @josephjefferson9346  that's really going to encourage people to sign up for nurse training 😳
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  4120.  @stevec6427  yep, the strikes have a stronger democratic mandate than our Prime Minister does!
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  4121.  @EdoardoArtero  the NHS is competing for staff. It's competing with all the other countries attracting nurses to move there because the pay is better
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  4122.  @jrobs1133  it's not increased, it's only keeping up with inflation. Some departments aren't even keeping up, so they're seeing real terms cuts 🙁
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  4123.  @jrobs1133  regardless of where it came from, funding is lagging behind inflation. That means austerity for everyone in that boat
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  4124.  @jrobs1133  increases aren't even. The NHS is more or less keeping up, but council budgets from Westminster are lagging behind inflation So both are true, depending on where you are looking
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  4125.  @clarkhunt4014  because it's all a myth that scarcity increases wages. If it did, nurses would have had a bigger pay rise, and sooner! Organising politically increases wages, not scarcity
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  4126.  @Chav-j2z  if the poorest are squeezed now, it will only get harder if the country is in decline
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  4127.  @abazely2743  That sounds really awesome actually! Combined economic might, but keep our own culture and traditions. What have I missed?
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  4128. Which is why we need to start the process of applying as soon as possible!
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  4129. We have more people retiring than children becoming adults. If you want to retire, we need immigration
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  4130.  @barrydwyer2039  I fully agree, but that's a plan needing at least two decades before it makes a difference What do we do for those decades?
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  4131. It's like the old joke about American politics, that gets more true by the day, there and here There's a party on the right who want to keep workers in their place, and the Republicans who want to work you til you drop dead
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  4132. ​ @seanfennessey1851 go on then, I've started the clock
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  4133. ​ @sadiemallyon829 "having somewhere to live" feels like a pretty simple, basic request, and that isn't free In fact, it's getting more expensive, while billionaires get richer. The correlation isn't a coincidence!
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  4134. Patreon is a good idea! It's not just about establishing revenue - it also shows you have support and backing, so you can push back against claims that you "don't speak for ordinary people" 🙂
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  4135. and the government could control a lot of the cost inflation with price caps (but won't)
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  4136.  @trident6547  We can't rejoin it any time soon, but we absolutely could have stayed in. It was an offer on the table during the negotiations
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  4137. Give me your money, and I will! If you're not giving out money, then I need to be cautious. Don't have much of a safety net to count on
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  4138. Problem is, even if you're honest, if you live in a bubble with other people of very similar backgrounds, you inevitably develop a narrow view of the world that just won't see problems ordinary people see every day Their idea of important gets very distorted as a result
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  4139.  @martineyles  which is going to be a problem by the next election
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  4140. @martineyles  they are already out of fashion - they have a few small pockets of support, with no signs of extending their popularity much further
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  4141. Lots of Tory chums own hotels. Wonder why the government is so eager to fill all the hotels up?
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  4142. ​@user-jc4lb5mm7x or maybe she does, and won't sell out the people she is standing to represent
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  4143. What if it's a nationalised power generation company, that has very little fossil fuel based power generation?
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  4144.  @BobMarley-yb7lq  having fuel for reserve use is a lot cheaper than burning it 24/7!
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  4145.  @fod1855  Why do people only look at minimum wage salaries when they talk wage-price spirals, but never executive salaries or dividends? 🤔
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  4146. Arsonist asks fireman why everything is still on fire
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  4147.  @jeffsimon9594  more, so it's proportional to the wealth they extract Pedant 😝
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  4148. Haven't seen any evidence they've even read Marx, let alone follow any of his ideas!
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  4149.  @Gill12283  indeed. If they were smart, they'd at least consider what Marx said, even if they don't follow every word
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  4150.  @oneoflokis  He pledged to start a national power company, and will renationalise every rail franchise as soon as the current contract expires
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  4151. It is a very Tory plan - hope it goes away on it's own - panic and flail round like headless chickens when it doesn't
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  4152. Don't joke, a Tory minister might quote you and use it to claim "the will of the people"!
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  4153. I assume the ERG are inspired by the oppression and abuse of power bit in the Star Chamber history!
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  4154. ​ @danbaumann8273 how can Isreal be sure? They don't know who they are killing when they flatten an entire neighbourhood
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  4155. You don't need to protest on the streets if your school chums run all the newpapers and TV...
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  4156. ​ @susanwallis7249 they'll try anything except taxing the rich, won't they!
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  4157. ​ @yellowgreen5229 destroy democracy by voting for democratic parties ? How does that work?
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  4158. ​ @kevinb9830 are you saying we'd be more effective if we had a coordinated effort from multiple nations, all working together? If so, I agree!
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  4159.  @kevinb9830  does it hurt to try though? If we build a few more wind turbines, and drill less oil, it won't harm your lifestyle (and may even reduce your bills) Good jobs on the turbines, too!
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  4160.  @kevinb9830  they are well efficient, I have friends who work on them, so I know they generate plenty on all but the stillest or stormiest days It's fair to say they won't be building them by me, but I like seeing them when I do. Much nicer than smokestacks on the horizon 🙂
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  4161. It's the Tories who won't come to the table. Union leaders are there, waiting!
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  4162. ​ @jjefferyworboys8138  Italy has a wierd election system, nearly a wierd as the wierd election systems they had before. They change the system almost as often as the government... Trying to take lessons from Italian politics is hopeless, other than don't copy what they are doing! Look at Germany or the Netherlands for better examples
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  4163. If they can afford agency rates, why not just pay full-time staff more instead?
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  4164.  @theyoutubeguy1  and nobody's going to be interested in qualifying if this is what they have to look forward to 🙁
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  4165. Borrowing to buy more private yachts is just a little bit different to borrowing to keep people alive, don't you think?
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  4166. ​@Patrick Doyle how do explain Truss and Kwarteng then?
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  4167. The Greens knew about the black hole, and had a plan to cover it. Just saying 🙂
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  4168. No, this is shit lite, a completely different flavour of shit!
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  4169. @François Pignon I can speak to that - right now, keeping the argument hot is counterproductive. The Leave argument was built almost entirely on keeping emotions high and divisions hardened. Since we're not going to rejoin any time soon, there's nothing to be gained by being loud, noisy and giving the Brexit press an easy 'enemy' to point at. Softly softly building a movement is where it's at 😉
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  4170. Vote Green if you want an alternative that isn't full of public school bankers!
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  4171. There was no diversity here, every single one was signed off by Tufton St!
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  4172. Immigration, but also investment in hospitals and housing!
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  4173.  @MCDONALD6969  yeah it does, because despite that larger number of workers, old people are still 20% of the population Without immigration, retired people would be around 30% of our entire population!
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  4174. No country has prefect equality, but some come a lot closer than others!
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  4175. Depends if it fragments. If you get loose material you could be looking at an undersea equivalent of the Chernobyl fallout If it stays intact, water is really good at blocking radiation. The area within a few metres will be spectacularly lethal, but beyond that the levels will be barely higher than typical background radioactivity
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  4176. Right to buy would have been great if they replaced the houses as they we sold Not replacing them was social vandalism
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  4177. Absolutely - why would you march on the streets when your school chum writes for the national papers? So much easier when you have those sorts of connections!
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  4178.  @barneymagee3285  I have less than zero faith in the Tories
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  4179. Especially the overlap with people who complain about the decline of local high streets "We miss having local shops" "So we have a plan to have everything you need within a 15 minute walk" "NO TO 15 MINUTE CITIES" 🙄
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  4180.  @genovayork2468  Macron cares more about his share dividends than the French people, and is going to do a Hindenburg to protect his bank balance I really hope I'm wrong
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  4181. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" That's the words of JFK, and they are scarily relevant today. Far too many people feel disenfranchised and ignored
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  4182.  @MandyAustin-nl4cn  not being ruled by incompetent Etonians would be my call, but I can't speak for everyone
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  4183. I will never understand that mentality that says "I am fine with being kicked as long as someone else gets kicked harder"
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  4184. @Try telling the truth.  why do you assume I was talking about you?
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  4185. @Try telling the truth.  if you're going to word lawyer rather than address the point, I have to empathise that it had a conditional if Apparently you decided you were the 'you' the if applied to!
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  4186. ​ @jjefferyworboys8138 but at huge cost to us
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  4187. I hope about half of the current Conservative vote do vote for Foris Barrige
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  4188.  @indricotherium4802  If he wants to set up a mobile broadcast studio in the back room he's welcome to join me!
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  4189. ​ @grievuspwn4g3  they used doctors as cover to give tax cuts to their banker mates
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  4190.  @jeremysmith8035  Apparently penises are the number one priority for this government! Not sure how that's going to fix the economy...
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  4191. You can't threaten to sack ChatGPT if it doesn't follow your agenda Murdoch may find generative AI wanders off from the editorial boundaries rather easily 😉
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  4192. I wish we could focus on policies, but Hall doesn't have much to focus on beyond being petty, spiteful and entitled. Plenty of London Assembly meetings to review if you want to see her "working"
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  4193. The Green vote is suppressed by FPTP - credible estimates say the Greens will double or triple their vote under a representative system
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  4194.  @squicker  Now this I agree with - we are stuck with low productivity due to a decade or more of low investment, which limits what we can use to bootstrap investment and increase productivity I am confident that we need to fund that investment from somewhere through, the low investment low productivity spiral has to be broken
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  4195. He did set the bar for "being impressed" very low
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  4196. You think the rich offset costs for everyone else? You call us economically illiterate? Wow...
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  4197.  @Wendeta-hq2cp  sometimes no amount of tailoring can beat sheer size. Working together is poweful
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  4198.  @Wendeta-hq2cp  which prerequisites to loans? I'm afraid I'm not sure what you're referring to
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  4199. ...but he wears the wrong sort of jacket to be Prime Minister 🙄
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  4200. Yes you did. Now you've had your chance, and your failed project is over!
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  4201. If a 5 year old pushes another 5 year old, we wouldn't accept "someone pushed me first" as an excuse Yet with supposedly grown-up world leaders, we do have to tell them "someone else tried a genocide" doesn't excuse more genocidal behaviour. They are an embarrassment to humanity
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  4202. ​ @CountScarlioni people who march peacefully get different treatment from police than rioters do Who knew, eh?
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  4203. No, they mean what they say. They are on strike til it's settled. If the government don't settle...
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  4204. It is impossible to create an independent committee while the Tories have a majority. They will always regulate to corrupt it
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  4205.  @TheCrimsonAvenger  that's his hobby 😋
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  4206. ​ @Duffy3074 but this sort of criticism is coming from progressive economists, not right wing press shills
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  4207.  @Jase29  there is no sane future where the EU gets rid of national parliaments!
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  4208. I wish she would say "tax billionaires" - that will sound great in any tone or cadence!
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  4209. 🤔🤣
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  4210. The Felixstowe dockers aren't public sector - you just don't see them on the news much because after the initial attempt to demonise them fell flat on it's face the media are trying to ignore strikes and hope they go away Don't believe that something doesn't exist just because the news ignores it!
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  4211. ​ @alanhat5252 that said, if they can convince more Tories to be filmed trying to live on social and/or minimum wage, I would watch that! Make sure they're not cheating though 😉
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  4212. ​ @neil1839 just sounds like rent and/or taxes to me. That's pretty normal in every civilised country, isn't it?
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  4213. but the people most obsessed with identity politics are Kemi and Liz!
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  4214. ​ @chrisj9700  freedom of movement gives you the right to accept a job offer No job offer, no freedom of movement. What the UK government allowed beyond that obligation was all on us
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  4215. Agreed. A march alone will most likely be ignored, but as a very visual statement as part of a wider campaign, thousands of people in unity is a powerful symbol
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  4216. Well, Starmer did say if you don't like my changes, leave Well done Keith! You got what you asked for 😁 I have donated to the campaign 🙂
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  4217. ​ @Popsickle34  that didn't work with the last government!
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  4218. @bina nocht if you get in trouble, could you ask your mum for an eight-figure sum to settle it and make it go away?
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  4219. @bina nocht I want her to feel she got justice. Is a cash settlement suitable justice? That's for her to decide for herself. I can only hope that it was freely accepted, and didn't come with an implied threat if she didn't accept!
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  4220. What a state - our government are either liars, or idiots...
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  4221. There's a lot of crying wolf going on, and that really doesn't help. When they want "playing music" to be treated with the same severity as violence, the real threats get lost in the noise
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  4222.  @edwardbernthal160  Amazon does do a lot of things right. If we can fix this thing it's doing wrong by it's employees, then does it need a rival? Maybe the Union balancing the Boardroom is a better dynamic than the capitalist race to the bottom. I don't know, also putting ideas out there for discussion!
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  4223. @james bolem  why would a Union take the side of management?
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  4224. @james bolem  I am all for constructive and engaged negotiation, but ultimately a union rep is not representing management interests. ...and as for the Tories, they seem determined to make the stand-off existential. I suspect the Tories have forgotten that they could be the one that falls when they make wannabe-tough statements about "never giving in while they remain in power" - the Tories may yet regret the escalation!
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  4225. They will absolutely restore the whip - this time They don't want to give someone like Zara Sultana four years warning to build an independent campaign team
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  4226. Yeah, turns out to win a war, you do need to keep supplying ammunition. Who knew, right? 🙄
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  4227. I disagree that it's wasted. It won't elect an MP, but a growing Green vote share helps shift the national conversation We need to break the vicious circle of people not voting Green because Green can't win, and we only do that by voting so people see Green as a growing party that could be viable in the near future 🙂
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  4228.  @GrowYourOwnLife  that's fair - if my MP was someone like Braverman I'd be all over tactical voting! Here, it's a corporate Starmerite or a careerist Cameronite. Neither scares or thrills me so I'm voting Green I could be convinced to vote Labour tactically, if there's a comitment from tactical voting people to support the Greens in Green marginals. So far, I'm getting the opposite message from big names in the tactical voting movement though 🙁
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  4229. ​ @JamalBrown-k1x  got an example of a millionaire trade union leader?
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  4230. What power? Our water is largely owned offshore, as is our electricity. We get most of our food from overseas. We make little of value, and even that little is shrinking further still We have been sold out and sold off. Unless we can find a way to reclaim our infrastructure, all the sovereignty in the world is useless
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  4231.  @feanorian21maglor38  people have been arrested over this. They have yet to be charged, as even the officers doing the arresting aren't sure what law they were arrested under The whole situation is a mess and does not paint the authorities in a good light at all
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  4232.  @feanorian21maglor38  Their priority seems to be PR and message control as a priority over law and order 🙁
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  4233. ​ @aniksamiurrahman6365 a financialised economy only needs a tiny percentage to be financially literate And that tiny minority can definitely exploit illiteracy in everyone else
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  4234. You've already broken your metaphor, as you definitely can have espresso on it's own, accidentally endorsing state owned centrally planned economics 😝
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  4235. I'm starting to suspect some people neither watched the whole video, nor read the entire thread, but it's all good because it's all fuel for the algorithm 🙂
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  4236. and the fossil shills say wind is unreliable 🙄
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  4237. I wouldn't go that far, but I do worry that Westminster sees the jong un dynasty as an inspiration...
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  4238.  @crotchet1586  I would be OK with free market economics if it was consistent. As soon as you say words like "too big to fail" and other excuses for avoiding competition and consequences the market goes rotten
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  4239.  @crotchet1586  indeed! Otherwise it isn't a free market, it's banditry and piracy
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  4240. ​ @brachiator1 there is a difference, but an uninspiring one. We are picking slow decline, or spectacular implosion. We want hope and progress, but nobody is offering it
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  4241. I second this simple and elegant solution!
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  4242. That's not the events I have read about. The Weimar communists legged it, and the social democrats were the last opposition standing in Weimar politics
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  4243. Turns out the sovereign French have sovereign control over the French sovereign border!
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  4244. More people need to vote Green, and have a governmnent that will tax the people who caused this mess, so they contribute to helping clean it up!
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  4245.  @stephenelkington4971  that's easy! Can you join in with all the things your friends and colleagues do, and not panic about money at the end of the month? If you're confident you can, then you have enough. More money won't make you much happier than you already are
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  4246. You're having a laugh, surely? Hackney and Tower Hamlets have some of the busiest nightlife in London!
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  4247. Only the posh speaking ones, thankfully! The majority are in a much better place 🙂
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  4248.  @bluechip297  in that case, I hope they can implode quietly without too much collateral damage. Shame they didn't want to be part of society with everyone else 🙁
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  4249. @ketan6213  what does "not investing" look like? Would we notice?
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  4250. @ketan6213  that sounds like where we are now. I doubt anyone outside will invest until we start investing in ourselves. Nobody from outside will see Thames Water as an investment opportunity!
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  4251. ​ @hazelwray4184 don't just repeat lazy conspiracies, it makes you easy to dismiss as a crackpot. Name them properly so you have evidence to fall back on It's Quadrature, and the Green(washing) Finance Institute. They donated, and now they're having their say on policy
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  4252.  @battybibliophile-Clare  but the WEF is just a boozy weekend away for ultra-rich people. Nothing important happens there If you're looking over at what they do in the WEF, you're missing the important stuff they're doing on the quiet
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  4253.  @lamestreammedia3154  The Tories are also getting sewers and rivers confused!
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  4254. They do occasionally tell the truth, probably by accident. Like when Nadine Dorries said out loud that Tory Donors direct Tory party policy. We all know it's true, but nobody thought we'd ever hear it said out loud!
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  4255.  @jasonkingshott2971  there's only one place in Europe with toxic rivers of poo!
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  4256.  @opencommentsbbcnewsnight1704  not copied, except for Mercosur, which is very much inspired by the EU...
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  4257. What happens if workers can't afford somewhere to live, or can't afford food?
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  4258.  @georgewright9914  I agree it will be minimum, but minimum shouldn't be poverty If a company can't cover the basics of life with the wages it offers, it's not a viable business
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  4259.  @garrywynne1218  utter nonsense! The commission consists of representatives of the member nations. Those governments will notice if their representative goes wildly off script, so you'll need to bribe a substantial number of politicians back home, per representative That gets you a proposal. It then needs to be passed by the EU parliament... That's a lot of bribery to push something through the EU!
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  4260.  @garrywynne1218  EU corruption gets you arrested! The UK could learn from that
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  4261. There's always politics in the economy. Someone is going to be favoured more than another, and that's unavoidably a political decision
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  4262. ​@pure1019 I think of social democracy and more radical socialism as a good cop, bad cop dynamic SocDems are the "good" cop, going to capital and saying "I know my friend radical socialism is a bit scary, but you are facing some serious charges here. Work with me on paying more tax and giving ordinary people stronger rights, and maybe I don't need to leave you alone with radical socialism..."
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  4263.  @vicious12394  I disagree. There are a lot of pragmatic Brexit voters out there (the ones who rarely troll YouTube comment threads 😉 ) who know Brexit isn't going well, but aren't ready to believe it's unsalvageable. Given that there's no Rejoin possible in the next parliament regardless of who is Prime Minister, a pragmatic soften-Brexit manifesto makes a lot of sense!
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  4264.  @tariqjoseph3562  We should definitely start the process, but the EU will determine when we qualify. We need some short term solutions in the meanwhile!
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  4265. I hope we all agree that if you injure or drug someone, so they are in agony, then we call that torture, and it is morally wrong Is it really so different if the agony is caused by illness, and someone actively forces the sufferer to continue suffering? That still sounds very wrong to me
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  4266. Suella "I want to hear Labour come up with some ideas, as I don't have any"
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  4267. and even if they are Tory lite, that has to be better than Ultramax Tory, surely?
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  4268. ​ @SashaYanshin but if you have more money for the same scarce energy, aren't you just bidding up the price of that scarce energy?
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  4269.  @twinwheels4717  it worked after ww2, when the top bands were 90% or more in various countries I don't know of an example where cutting it from at or near the current 45% rate increased tax revenue
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  4270. Guess they are running out of Brexiteers still willing to put their names to Brexit in a mixed panel!
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  4271.  @DarrenSmith-zz6fk  Brexit doesn't cause global events, but it does leave us very, very exposed to them
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  4272. He sneaked a shocker in early before distracting everyone with all the racism He wants to be able to vote for the markets to give people free money. I thought Tories said Magic Money Trees don't exist! 🤔
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  4273.  @kathyswearingen1509  can we stop obsessing over the WEF? It's just a posh drinks event. Nothing would change if we blocked it from happening!
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  4274. Yep, Brexit ringleaders can't have the bit of the UK still in the Single Market doing better than the rest of the UK! It really wrecks the myth they are trying to sell...
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  4275. If it stops posh people hiring the other posh people they went to school with, maybe there's some good could come of this?
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  4276.  @Justin-yt8zv  on the wards it's multicultural, but leadership? So many Eton school chums looking out for other Etonians. The establishment doesn't want to give up the best jobs to commoners
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  4277.  @Justin-yt8zv  it's not envy, it's disappointment. They give jobs to their chums, despite not being very good You can feel the problem - is anything well run right now?
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  4278. Sadly, the same can be said the other way around. It's especially ugly when you bring immigration in. There's a certain faction of (generally older) socialists that would rather shoot themselves in the foot than stand with other workers that might be from a different background 🙁
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  4279. and vote for MPs who will raise the minimum wage!
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  4280.  @CreatureOTNight  The Tories said that in 1998 when the minimum wage was introduced. It didn't happen 🙂
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  4281. I say there's every reason to need to bring down this government, so if someone knows how, fair play to them!
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  4282. Feels like the wise thing to do would be call a general election as soon as possible, so the question can be settled in a calm and sensible manner
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  4283.  @mandywithell  true 🙂 Tories always do the opposite of wisdom and common sense!
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  4284.  @Fezzz1234  fiat currency is one of those terrible ideas that we shouldn't do, if it wasn't for the fact that all the other ideas are even worse
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  4285. Search for Rishi Sunak Tunbridge Wells if you haven't seen it
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  4286. He's going to be king of the ruins. Guess his place in history is guaranteed, at least...
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  4287. ​ @petersmith7126 History didn't start on Oct 7th. Nobody serious would claim the Ukraine war started on the 6th of August, when Ukraine entered Kursk
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  4288. Nonsense, unless you're claiming he was somehow in charge of American banking regulation!
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  4289. Probably got better knowledge of economics, trade negotiation, diplomacy and security than the current lot...
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  4290. The difference is both sides have been screwed over by it now. The right used to claim it was just something the left cared about. That's changed now
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  4291. ​ @boudicca3845  but do you want to allow cancerous skin cream just because the EU don't?
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  4292. ​ @tomtheeagle1 sure there's disagreement, but nothing like the open hostility between the Assembly and Westminster currently!
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  4293.  @lacdirk  that answers what it should cost, which sadly is a very different question to what it will cost 🙄
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  4294. Capital gains and other asset wealth. There's your answer
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  4295. @Dave  then we need to learn from what didn't work, and try again. Doing nothing isn't an option. As a class the rich have ended up in charge of directing investment for society. If an elected government was this bad at fixing problems, they would never get re-elected Just because they hide away, doesn't mean they shouldn't be scrutinised
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  4296. I can see why the LibDems wouldn't want to be seen as a haven for large numbers of ex-Tories, but I'm convinced the only reason Rory Stewart isn't a LibDem already is he can't break the habit of seeing himself as a Tory
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  4297.  @ER1CwC  Interesting and very credible point - maybe he could be joining the Starmerite flag-waving incarnation of the Labour party then, assuming this incarnation settles in as a long-term identity!
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  4298. @ER1CwC  agreed - like I said, it would have to last long enough to be established. If Rory's children take after their father, maybe they'll be future Labour MPs?
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  4299. @ER1CwC  never say never, but it feels like the left are done with Labour and largely joining the Greens. If Labour doesn't do something to recreate the broad church, I think this shift is permanent
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  4300. Why would Starmer lead? He's just there to read out Mcsweeney's press releases
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  4301. I think it is - either times are hard, and profits and wages will be tight, or times are good, and profits and wages should be good Profits have never been squeezed, not in the current crisis, nor during the decade of austerity. We need to stop ignoring the double standard going on here!
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  4302.  @GeorgieGeorgeable  "I love capitalism, but free markets for hiring workers has destroyed my wages. I still love capitalism though!" ... 🤯
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  4303. but "lefty socialists" are apparently the problem...
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  4304. To give jobs to Tories who failed to get elected?
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  4305. We need representation of broader interests in politics Labour moving away from the unions was a terrible move. Now everyone is backed by donations from landlords and ceos If anything we need more than just wealth or trade unions backing politicians - the more diverse the representation, the less chance that profit for a few will dictate policy
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  4306. @Eyes Odd  but they didn't fund the NHS, did they?
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  4307. I say the only person more dangerous than someone with an ideology is someone who claims to have none Everybody has one. If you think you don't, you have a big hole in your self awareness If you know you have one but wish to conceal it, then you're actively deceptive I'd much rather deal with people who can be open about where their priorities are!
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  4308.  @proteusnz99  definitely agree with that! Know your own ideology, but don't assume everyone else will share it 🙂
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  4309. @proteusnz99  it's all part of self reflection on your ideological position 🙂 People rarely get everything perfect first time, after all
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  4310. @proteusnz99  we have unfortunately aquired a myth that leaders can and should be near-perfect individuals who rarely are wrong, rather than desiring people who suspect they are wrong and intend to learn as much as possible to mitigate this It's a curious societal phenomenon!
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  4311. ​ @imbonkers3629  Kier serves bankers and billionaires. What could be more right-wing than that?
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  4312. That sounds like step 2 after "have rich parents" to be honest
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  4313. The problem is they don't create jobs, they just move existing jobs from outside the freeport So you end up with no new jobs, but more tax dodging
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  4314. I think the coming scandal reveals are our only hope for an early election - if they know the coming story is bad and the cover up is about to fail, they may try a quick election before the story breaks
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  4315. Fair enough! There'll be no moaning from you about the increased taxes then? They are to cover the consequences of your choice, and you're happier being poorer!
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  4316. As loyal Liz supporters, they have to follow her example and U-Turn as much as she does!
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  4317.  @paulgibbons2320  there's some truth to that, but one definitely squeezes harder than the other
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  4318. Economic migrants come on planes. Even if we went full machine guns and drowning on asylum seekers, it would barely be noticable in the figures, because legal, fully signed off immigration is very high And we do need the people. It's shameful that the government is happy to take the tax from all that work, but won't spend it on housing or hospitals
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  4319. The right wing: "why won't immigrants integrate?" Also the right wing: "Stop spending money on encouraging integration" 🤦‍♂️
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  4320.  @jamesoneill5070  or 2% of the NHS workforce. Doesn't the NHS need staff, including many that don't need qualifications?
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  4321. but if he did, and then people voted for him, isn't that democracy?
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  4322.  @marumaru6084  if you're saying that our democratic system isn't as representative as it should be, you'll get no argument from me! I am confident that there'll be no shortage of support for moving closer to the EU under a fair and representative system though 🙂
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  4323.  @irishwatchenthusiast6647  nope,that's not a school I've been to
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  4324. apparently it is a vibrant, up and coming nation with a bright future Think it was Liz Truss who said this, then in the next breath said we are sending people there as a deterrent 🤔
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  4325.  @kingofracism  I can respect that opinion (while not agreeing with it) if you universally believe no lives matter
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  4326. No, they can bring maximum levels of that!
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  4327. If Putin doesn't stop, then stopping supplies doesn't stop the death, it just makes the deaths very one sided
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  4328. ​ @jezlawrence720 if we were to learn that Shell is funding Tufton St, I doubt we'd notice anything new that isn't already happening to Shell offices and facilities
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  4329. That war that the Tories backed - without a single objector ? Let's not pretend the Tories showed any opposition to the Iraq war
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  4330.  @californiadreamin8423  if someone argues for policy that gets you a better wage and a better quality of life, do you care where they studied for their O level?
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  4331.  @J1mston  if you're a banker, it's still an income from assets rather than production, even if those assets are shared/borrowed It's an interesting grey area 🙂
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  4332.  @californiadreamin8423  Fair point, that was not his greatest moment
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  4333.  @tfive24  I don't want them pumping raw turds into the NHS!
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  4334. There is a Kents Tuck Inn fried chicken, which successfully fought off a legal challenge from Kentucky Fried Chicken, as it is a fried chicken shop, on Kent St Does the same defence work if you're a Pubcast in an actual pub?
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  4335.  @JH-lf4ql  they will tackle corruption, that I believe, and won't pull any deranged Liz Truss style stunts, so that's preferable to Blue However, they are actively avoiding tackling inequality. Anyone currently screwed on housing will remain screwed, and cost of living problems will not ease significantly
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  4336. We're only avoiding recession on paper. How are your wages holding up against cost of living? That tells you the real story of our economy
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  4337. What about the people on 150 times the average wage?
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  4338. @Pegaroo_  fair point, but there is definitely a role for trees - eg the edge of the Sahara, where replanting is needed and would be very effective, but algae wouldn't be very viable!
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  4339.  @alex_n8863  she wouldn't dare. The reaction would make the poll tax protests look insignificant in comparison!
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  4340. As Japan showed, low birthrates and low immigration are a bad combination. As people grow old you have a lot of pensioners needing support, and nobody to do the supporting Immigration is an emotive topic, but people taking a hard line against it need to explain the plan to support people as they get old, when there's fewer young people to do all the work
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  4341.  @Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma  other countries have their boom generation right now. If we split currently young boom generations, to support aging boomer generations, everyone can win It all depends on where people move from and to
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  4342.  @Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma  it would be unfair to take everyone, but if there's a balance where they can develop, but won't become a nation of old people in 40 years? That's a win for everyone!
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  4343.  @peatmetree774  if it's that simple, why is Rishi still asking the question? Are you going to claim it's got nothing to do with fishing for support from the transphobic minority?
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  4344. ​ @forsterchurch6242 The Tories are in chaos. If there is ever a time to try and grow the vote for the Greens, now is that time!
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  4345. and Marie Antoinette sets the example for corrupt regimes
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  4346. I don't often defend Rishi, but you can't blame him for the Tories being a pack of backstabbing, selfish monsters. They do that to themselves
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  4347. Sounds like a problem best solved with the cooperation of the Palestinian people Might there be a reason the Palestinian people don't trust the Israeli authorities?
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  4348. ​ @pbloemer America won't sponsor a Palestinian Iron Dome...
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  4349. If we decide our boss isn't worth what they're paid, how do we replace our boss?
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  4350.  @stefanpietrzyk8079  so we're all supposed to become bosses? Quite apart from the scaling problem, not everyone has the savings to do that. Maybe more countries need something like Italian social cooperatives, that give tax breaks to a cooperative largely formed from the unemployed? We would need more initiatives like that to make it realistic for more people to be their own (cooperatively shared) boss
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  4351. ​ @dh1380 nope. We need the pipes and machinery. We don't need the CEOs or shareholders!
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  4352.  @mda5003  a convenient excuse - what kind of "facts" would hit the filters,I wonder? Can you at least hint so we know what to google? Or is it something you know is nonsense?
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  4353.  @wavell14  be nice to see them achieve anything before we stretch to asking for everything!
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  4354.  @wavell14  Move to remote Alaska then? Technically, there's a government, but they won't be involved in your life in any way
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  4355. ​@Empress LC and if they don't go back, there are other english-speaking nations out there to go to instead
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  4356. It's true. Putting Johnson and Frost in charge was totally a super secret Remainer plot to sabotage Brexit 😝
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  4357. ​@@dogboy5398Kind of? It was a hrand British achievement, but to be proud of itnin present day, I feel you need to show how you're living up to and building on that legacy with current actions
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  4358. ​@billB101 my guess is they are doing austerity because their new chums who fund the party want more austerity
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  4359.  @billB101  you don't need to donate much to have influence - especially if donations from grassroots membership are collapsing, which they are
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  4360.  @epincion  in the article he is full of praise for the direction Reeves is taking. Why wouldn't he like her plans? "Fiscal discipline" is just rebadged austerity
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  4361. Because people have been charged
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  4362. The EU let David Frost choose what he wanted, and respected every decision. Frost got the deal he wanted...
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  4363.  @stephenbull8962  was he threatening article 16 because he didn't like the deal he himself negotiated?
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  4364. ​ @MandyAustin-nl4cn we vote our government every 4-5 years. Why should the people get a say in some policies, but it others?
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  4365.  @MandyAustin-nl4cn  it has been accepted and done - now we democratically need to decide our future
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  4366.  @AleXoEx0  yet it is still true that there's enough cookies for three each, if we stop the Tories from stealing them
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  4367. ​@Bond047 do they? They seem to live in permanent terror, scared of all the imaginary penises they think are lurking everywhere...
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  4368. How can the army enforce martial law if they're already busy driving ambulances, and fire engines, and checking paperwork at the border...
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  4369. @Minimmalmythicist I agree, Starmer is like Macron - which is why I hope we can find our NFP before Starmer reaches the point Macron is at now A played-out Starmer vs Farage with no other alternative on the table is not a future I want to see!
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  4370.  @harryleemc2000  who says there are opposing views? There are different priorities, which is why it's a coalition rather than a uniparty. There's plenty of common ground 🙂
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  4371.  @colin9839  That's more of a Truss future
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  4372. ​ @GromDarkwater  NATO literally puts foreign military bases on our soil
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  4373.  @GromDarkwater  if you swap 'military' for 'trade', how is the EU different?
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  4374. @Grom Darkwater  The EU is pointless? Tell that to the Cheshire Cheese company, and so many other businesses screwed by Brexit
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  4375. @Grom Darkwater  what stealth? "Ever closer union" has been in the treaties since 1957! They aren't alone, either. Mercosur in South America is aiming for regulatory and monetary alignment, as are others in Asia. This is what small and medium sized nations do to have a place in the age of superpowers. The UK is the only one going the other way!
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  4376.  @GromDarkwater  I am not a quitter, I'm not going to run away and abandon my home! I will stay and push to get us back into our home superpower, where we can have the success and prosperity we deserve!
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  4377. It won't fix everything, but it's a good start!
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  4378. This is what Richard said - you can print money to create jobs and build infrastructure The covid bailouts printed money, but effectively gave it all to supermarket owners and landlords, who used it to push prices up on property and shares This is the difference - building infrastructure expands the economy, while giving it to the already wealthy just gives the wealthy more power to push up the prices of existing assets
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  4379. ​ @georgesdelatour and your source for this information?
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  4380.  @charlievarley  I am happy with any improvement, but that represents maybe half a percent in increased capacity I acknowledge that anyone would struggle to fix 14 years of damage, but it's clear that the private sector isn't waiting to save us. Why does Wes insist that we need to involve private medical capacity that doesn't exist?
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  4381.  @charlievarley  social care is a good place to start! I can see that making far more difference than the other ideas they're promoting
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  4382. ​ @thorsrensen3162 if they're working, they deserve a fair share
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  4383. ​ @DJPaulgee1  if immigrant workers grew the food, kicking them out results in less food being grown 🤷‍♂️
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  4384. Because they keep arresting the journalists?
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  4385.  @rushyscoper1651  the core truth is that there is no perfect system, and no flawless leader - in democracy, we all need to do a little bit to keep an eye on what's going on!
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  4386. Then Ben needs to stand for election, see if the public agree
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  4387.  @stanleyshannon4408  no, they asserted they would practice self defence. I see no threat to start anything in this thread!
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  4388. @Ben bear  and that 4 years is almost up. Legally they can go to 5 years, but historically only desperate governments who know they are going to lose run the clock to five years Looks like this government is desperate, and know they are going to lose!
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  4389. He could have stopped at three words, to be honest!
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  4390. ​ @tonycollyweston6182 the large amount of money he's shovelling to private health firms?
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  4391. Even shorter summary than a short 9 minute video? Don't screw with the EU in a trade war
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  4392. Our legal system is built on the common law assumption of permission, so if there's no law or precedent prohibiting it, it's allowed This differs from civil legal systems, which do explicitly define every case So if there's no law against protest, and precedent shows it was allowed in the past, it's allowed
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  4393.  @haleytownsend7544  and is Lee doing anything?
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  4394. @Haley Townsend  we are doing that for free! I expect better for the 80 grand we're paying each of them
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  4395. We need constructive and respectful criticism or nothing will ever improve
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  4396. Tory HQ go with the smug face pictures because it's better than the eyes of murderous hatred option There is no third option!
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  4397. Lots of levelling, just none of it up...
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  4398. 🤞
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  4399. ​ @chriselliott726 but is he competent, or is he good at doing a performance that superficially projects it?
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  4400. @chriselliott726  there's already some worrying signs. Labour are asserting they won't raise taxes (outside of the very specific and narrow private schools and non-doms, which aren't big-money changes). They want to invest. They won't borrow It all comes down to often repeated promises of growth, but to fix the country while not raising any more taxes, that growth is going to have to be unprecedented I have learned to be cautious around people who bet their entire plan on unlikely odds occurring. I see hard times and deep disappointments ahead 🙁
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  4401. ​ @Iazzaboyce I have an idea for the bus! "We spend 350 million on beurocracy and red tape. Let's spend it on the NHS instead"
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  4402. @TheAtheist  I agree with the principle, I just don't see how that's achieved by demonising middle earners who spent years gaining qualifications and experience, while ignoring the owners who profit by inheriting things their parents and grandparents owned, and by squeezing everyone else's quality of life to breaking point
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  4403. @TheAtheist  Zahawi's tax bill was for millions. What do you think his income was, if the tax was in the millions? That is a high earner - not a teacher!
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  4404.  @strictlysport3624  I think you might be confusing AI with Harry Potter there...
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  4405.  @TheAtheist22  I am pretty sure you don't have kids, I am doubting you know any teachers, and I have to ask if you even live in the UK!
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  4406. I'd rather tax billionaires more. It's got a better track record than deporting marginalised groups and becoming insular
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  4407. ​ @chriselliott726 I would do it through regulation first, especially for water Hold them accountable to reasonable standards and see if they stick around If they do, privatisation gets to continue, but my guess is they'll fold and cut their losses. Either way we get the water infrastructure we deserve
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  4408. @chriselliott726  I don't want to regulate them out of existence, but do want to regulate them tightly enough to prevent the vast wealth extraction we're currently seeing I suspect the current owners would quit rather than tackle the difficult challenges of fixing their own mess, but I won't be an ideological purist and insist on nationalisation. Results are more important than ideological point scoring 🙂
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  4409. @zippy_uk1046  you can always find data, but that doesn't guarantee information Let's say you have the data for deaths on the operating table. Would you dismiss the surgeons with the highest death rate?
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  4410. apparently terminal surgical complications are on the list of things YouTube doesn't like Thanks YouTube! This doesn't make discussion weird at all
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  4411. Harehills caught the police off-guard, because there was no warning. That's the only difference
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  4412.  @DoggleBird  27 arrested
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  4413.  @DoggleBird  priority has been given to convicting people who are threatening to riot again, which is just common sense
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  4414. Yeah, that trope's older than I am. The first "AI is taking over" was in the 60s IIRC. We'll see some niche uses for all this technological investment, but I'm not seeing a revolution. All the big breakthrough ideas have plateaued already
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  4415. She used to be unknown before she became unpopular 😆
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  4416. ​ @martynjones8560  he was unelectable, but his policies are hugely popular!
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  4417.  @vonder7  did your "socialism" have an authoritarian dictator?
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  4418. @william_marshal  only if you borrow, rather than issue new currency. This is why rich people hate deficit spending - ot reduces their chances to loan money and collect interest Obviously, they have a different view on running a deficit to enable tax cuts for the 1%...
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  4419. @James-m8x3b  if you're the Fed, you just put the money on the official ledger, and it exists Sounds crazy, but that's all there is to it. The consequences can be complex, but the process is trivial
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  4420. @James-m8x3b  best way to make it make sense is to go back to the very first fiat dollar ever created - where did it come from? Literally nowhere. It was created when the Central Bank declared that those dollars exist, where previously there was nothing. This is all any fiat currency is - a token recognised by the state and central bank, that you can use to be paid, and to pay taxes So they can still do the same now - if they decide more Dollars need to exist, then they will be created. Create a lot in a short period and the value will definitely be affected, but there's some flexibility - if the markets think the new money is being used wisely, the impact on the value will be much smaller than a Liz Truss Financial Event
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  4421. We need more grassroots politics and unions! There's two ways to build up support, one is a small number of rich backers to fund slick, carefully targeted media campaigns backed by client journalism The other is a large number of people working together. When you represent money, you work for the highest bidder. When you work for your community, you have different priorities
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  4422. @AlfieWoodland  probably true, but it's an interesting contrast, what's acceptable with public assets vs private assets, isn't it!
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  4423. Which policy don't you like?
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  4424. National rail and power isn't capitalist! Public companies for the public benefit 😁
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  4425.  @TurinTuramber  Yes, different problems. Different, smaller problems 🙂
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  4426. If you don't like people pointing out the scummy things you say, don't say the scummy things in the first place
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  4427.  @dustyboi8975  you know what, even if it's wrong, it's nice to hear some optimism and positivity from someone in the middle of this shitshow!
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  4428. Pretty much, yeah Vote Labour for change 🙄
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  4429. Boris lounging around doing as little as possible suddenly seems so much better in comparison...
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  4430.  @davidiand7  but there isn't a state pension fund, so which pension fund did they impact?
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  4431. You think they're that brave? They'd be loudly talking the big man talk...from the far side of the room, preferably near a door
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  4432. Is disliking sewage in rivers "left wing"?
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  4433.  @T0NYD1CK  Vote Leave never said anything about the Brexit Benefits being on the moon 🤔 Is that why nobody can find the Brexit Benefits?
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  4434.  @T0NYD1CK  what do you think we need to do, that we are not doing?
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  4435.  @T0NYD1CK  Go to Stormont and the Dail and pitch your plan then. I am sure your idea to solve the conflicts in Irish politics will succeed where hundreds have struggled
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  4436.  @T0NYD1CK  I am glad you have solved the Irish Problen, I look forward to celebrating your success!
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  4437.  @T0NYD1CK  well, interesting chat! Let me know if you get round to visiting Ireland and putting your plan into action 🙂
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  4438.  @T0NYD1CK  it worked because we were all in the single market. Now we are two different markets That's it in a nutshell - what happened to your plan to go to Ireland and solve everything?
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  4439.  @T0NYD1CK  but now there is, and we are outside it - if you want to have a say in the EU, you want to be a member!
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  4440.  @T0NYD1CK  Asian nations are forming Asian trade blocks. South American nations are doing the same there We are the only nation chosing to be more isolated, when everyone is is grouping up!
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  4441.  @frankling9840  Starmer is a weathervane. Currently, swing voters are still either Brexiteers, or at least more worried about the divisions of reopening the debate than they are worried about the cost of Brexit Public mood is changing. By the election after next starting the process of Rejoin will be an issue they'll be desperate to plant their flag in!
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  4442. Bad example. The problem is lying selfish Presidents and Prime Ministers, so the solution is simple - don't vote for them! James is doing his bit to remind everyone what happens if you vote for them
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  4443. ​ @nigelsynnott7344  sounds like he wants the North Korean model for the country, where lots of money we don't have gets spent on a big shiny military, while people starve and industry collapses
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  4444. Right wing economics is basically Smaug the dragon They don't care about the economy. They'll happily see everything burn as long as they get to sit on their pile of gold
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  4445. ​@stumac869 if you could vote to give yourself more votes, how long would democracy last?
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  4446. I'm sure they'll find someone who has fallen out of favour - they'll get thrown under the bus so they can point and say they found a tax dodger While everyone else continues as they were
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  4447. Can we do swapsies? One refugee in, one Tory MP out Hancock is already trialling the idea it seems 😁
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  4448. I always wonder which of his ideas people don't like. Why would you want him written out of history?
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  4449. You only become conservative if you have something worth conserving The Tories undermined their own foundations by only pandering to people who already owned stuff, and neglecting people who might have become future voters if they had been given more opportunities to buy assets
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  4450.  @evolassunglasses4673  what was she trying to grow, exactly? The only thing she increased was debt!
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  4451. @Thelostgoldhunters  I have an interesting fact on housing. Currently we use as much land for golf as we do housing Anyone else see a solution to the housing shortage now?
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  4452. There is only one set of pipes to your house, so there is no market competition 🙁
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  4453. We let Boris in, there's someone we should have barred from entry!
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  4454.  @honberg193  I'd be interested to know what studies you're citing please 🙂
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  4455. Citation needed!
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  4456. or just wrap the interview up if it's going nowhere!
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  4457. It's weird, discussing work on a panel of three people who have never had a normal job!
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  4458. ​@alanmckay7040 the report was about supporting victims better, so they are more willing and able to come forward We don't need an inquiry to tell us that illegal gangs are already illegal
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  4459. I think it is worth noting that "services" are people, doing work. With an aging population we need people from somewhere, or there won't be people to run those services
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  4460.  @craftersdelight2011  you're not going to stop them by giving them what they want
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  4461.  @craftersdelight2011  keep inviting them into the studio to talk, and debate the argument, not the tactics Attention seeking will stop if they have the chance to make their argument
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  4462.  @craftersdelight2011  would you be OK with them doing the same if the tables turn?
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  4463.  @quasicrystal5166  🤷‍♂️
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  4464.  @uniquevideosUk  what's the difference in housing costs?
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  4465.  @uniquevideosUk  point is nobody is going to choose to work in London if they can't pay the bills here! So the only way to keep a London train service is to pay London train staff a London wage. It's that or fix the London housing market, and I wouldn't know where to start on that one!
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  4466. ​ @chrisj9700 there's one slight problem with your idea that we need wealthy people to create jobs - we've been trying this for 4 decades, and it hasn't worked
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  4467. The great thing about YouTube is it's really easy to prove you can do a better job of it I can't, I'll happily admit that! How about you?
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  4468. Neither are socialist! They both follow Thatcher
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  4469. @whitesolanum  Socialists would take water and power into public control. Thatcher sells them off to her chums Labour aren't taking our water back, even though the current companies are totally imcompetent, and Starmer and Streeting want more private companies inside the NHS, not less Thatcherism on all sides 🙁
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  4470. ​ @derekharrison1582  I thought they liked Liz because she was promising lots of (wildly uncosted) tax cuts?
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  4471. We have had 40 years of Thatcherism. Can't see how we could possibly make things more Thatcherist by changing things!
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  4472. There are refugees in Greenwich, who want to stay there, the community around them wants them to stay, but Tory contractors are trying to move them elsewhere This is the Tories and their chums being Tories. Don't blame the asylum seekers!
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  4473.  @kaya051285  Reality disagrees with your assessment
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  4474. @I Kaya  That's great if you're on minimum wage, and if you are you deserve a bit of a break! However, the median tells a different story. 29.3k in 2013, and 33k in 2023. That's only 12% - a significant failure to keep pace with inflation
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  4475. @Tim Murphy  a lot of that was residual support - if you don't follow politics, you wouldn't know anything had changed on the back benches and in the committee rooms The difference isn't so quiet anymore, and would be impossible to ignore if the party actually split. People who stayed Tory out of habit will have to get off the fence
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  4476. GBNews, the Dubai-based tax dodger's news channel!
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  4477. ​ @andybrice2711 agreed, if "adress" means "fix underlying causes" rather than "target scapegoats"!
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  4478. ​ @MatthewSmith-j1l can we bill the guilty for costs, as well as reclaim the fraudulent profits?
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  4479. ​ @Solihul886 if the private sector can't deliver in a sector that is critical for society, and has profound consequences for the economy, maybe we shouldn't be trusting the private sector to deliver housing?
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  4480. @Solihul886  I don't believe in private sector investment, but I do believe government can fix things, if there's wide enough engagement and people holding them to account
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  4481. ​ @rb1062 so what border did we strengthen? How is our vote better, when our votes used to shape a continent, and now they just cover one (and a bit of an) island?
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  4482. ​ @jamescaley9942  we have job shortages, a relatively low population density and a lot of empty homes I will admit I don't know the details, but competent governments elsewhere have done it. We should copy what they did and tweak it to suit the UK
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  4483.  @johnrussell3961  from a very narrow framing, I suppose crashing the economy and people's standard of living would work to greatly reduce immigration...
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  4484.  @matthewv4170  it's the fun police again 🙁 Want to ban Christmas as well?
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  4485. Why VAT? Why not something under-taxed, like capital gains?
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  4486.  @timelwell7002  I guess we'll find out how badly the establishment wants to eject the legacy of Boris! Something for us to watch for in the future 🙂
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  4487. I think the government are avoiding freedom of movement because skilled workers would then find it easier to leave the country They are hoping no freedom of movement will somewhat limit the brain drain
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  4488. Teaching is a skill, and one we are pretty good at We should be making use of that skill just like any other - countries that grow a lot of food export food. We're good at growing knowledge 🙂
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  4489. Anyone ruled by a mango manchild doesn't have a leg to stand on when criticising Europe
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  4490. The rich are taking away our civil rights because they get in the way of them getting richer They see the link, so we need to counter both too
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  4491. She is the most competent Thatcherite in the room
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  4492.  @davehoughton7474  but if other people have that gold, that's exactly the problem I'm talking about!
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  4493.  @MookMineola  if you think the current lot aren't right wing, that says more about you than it does about them
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  4494.  @trytellingthetruth.2068  Only if they stay, and some do, but not all. Why do we so rarely talk about how many people are leaving the country?
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  4495. Richard Tice himself said running an election that's going to be re-run in a year is a grotesque waste of money Why has his position changed so dramatically?
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  4496. The quote with "grotesque" and "waste", if people want to try and find what YouTube doesn't want you to hear!
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  4497. But the Tories are supposedly the "Conservative" party, who hold on to traditions, old ceremonial things and all that Seems they only like conserving the traditions that make them and their chums money...
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  4498. The current water companies have proven to be fundamentally incapable of managing our water infrastructure They need removing from their position on grounds of utter incompetence
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  4499. You say wages and capital gains should be taxed at the same rate? I disagree. CG should be taxed more
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  4500. You really believe it's the middle class that pays the majority of CGT?
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  4501. @Helpm'boab help me out, I am not seeing how!
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  4502. There are loads of empty homes out there. We need a tax on empty homes so they either get rented out at fair rates,sold, or we have more tax income to spend elsewhere sorting problems
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  4503. Hard to have your parents live with you if you move to find work, and can only afford a tiny studio flat...
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  4504. Reform talk about penises a lot, which is a bit creepy, but definitely different from same old same old!
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  4505. Have you seen the Make Votes Matter campaign? A different electoral system would make a small-c conservative party viable even when the dominant right wing opinion is something more radical and disruptive
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  4506. ​@Teladi-Never-Paid-Dividends yep, the fact that they try to make "solidarity" a dirty word tells you everything you need to know
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  4507. Apologies if this is a little blunt, but how many people died last year?
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  4508. I despair at anyone who still votes for these corrupt, incompetent embarassments to the nation
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  4509. but not as much as we would make if we owned the company, rather than just sell a licence Norway kept ownership, look at their sovereign wealth fund now!
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  4510. Who's doorstep was Greg Hands visiting? "Good Morning Mr Rees-Mogg. Do you agree we should have a Conservative government, and PM Sunak is the bestest Prime Minister?"
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  4511.  @christinerussell113  pretty clear! What are your thoughts on Mick Lynch?
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  4512. Labour have already said no, but the Greens have some good policies. They don't just do environmental issues 🙂
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  4513.  @danielwebb8402  I want a strong and prosperous country. The Tories and the banking class they represent have had decades in charge of the country, and the economy is failing everyone - even the banks and the shareholders! Looks like bankers only know how to squirrel away wealth, they don't know how to invest and build an economy. Time do put someone else in charge who knows how to build a nation rather than grow a bank balance!
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  4514. ​ @davidklyne5134  much as I would love to rejoin tomorrow, there's wisdom in wanting a 60% or even 70% majority It might take a bit longer to achieve, but it makes the mandate decisive once achieved!
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  4515. We don't need "big beasts" and theatre. We need a team who care about the country, and either have the expertise to solve problems, or will reach out to find the experts they need This endless Tory playground squabbling about who gets the best seat is an embarrassment
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  4516. Didn't realise troll bots got paid!
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  4517. Protip - there is no added value. Healthcare is 100% sunk cost
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  4518. I have already mourned the damage Today I celebrate that we can start to rebuild 🙂
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  4519. ​@user-xz4du3es5p you can have immigration, so there's someone to take your place when you retire, or you can work longer Can't have both!
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  4520. ​ @seamusoflatcap so are they going to take all those office buildings and land with them? If those are still here, we can apply taxes. Doesn't matter where they live
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  4521. @seamusoflatcap  the free market will sort it out - if there's a gap in the market, someone more efficient has an opportunity to move in now the previous business has given up it's incumbency advantage. We will find someone capable of operating without needing to short change the bill for the infrastructure the country and business depends on
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  4522. @seamusoflatcap  There's always going to be someone willing and capable, who loves their country and would rather work here, rather than go somewhere else - even if the money is a bit better elsewhere
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  4523.  @thegrandmuftiofwakanda  is there any regulators checking that they aren't Ponzi schemes ( or some close relative) There are a lot of bubbles in tech that make a big mess when they pop
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  4524.  @thegrandmuftiofwakanda  Are you aware of Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos? They were a Unicorn once
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  4525.  @thegrandmuftiofwakanda  Theranos is now bankrupt, and Elizabeth Holmes is in jail for fraud Most Unicorns flop in less spectacular ways, but the ones who sustain the initial hype are very very rare. Early investors tend to do well at the expense of the late adopters. They are volatile, risky bets
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  4526.  @thegrandmuftiofwakanda  You go ahead and invest money in them then 🙂 I won't, but that's the wonders of free society. We each get to make our own choices and receive our own consequences as a result!
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  4527.  @thegrandmuftiofwakanda  so, if they are so amazing, put your money where your mouth is when they go public! Or are you less assertive when it's your cash on the line?
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  4528.  @thegrandmuftiofwakanda  RSUs? So you were a founder, or something close. How are those companies doing now?
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  4529.  @thegrandmuftiofwakanda  you confident to give people a tip and name the company?
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  4530.  @parsonk4041  is it "cheaper" or "electricity" you need help with?
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  4531.  @parsonk4041  build turbines and solar - every megawatt generated from renewables is one less megawatt bought on the global fossil fuel market
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  4532. @parsonk4041  if woke means cheaper electricity, everyone should be woke!
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  4533. @parsonk4041  so maybe we shouldn't support right wing parties if all they do is get rich at our expense!
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  4534.  @R3tr0v1ru5  I am all too aware of Thames Water!
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  4535.  @R3tr0v1ru5  it's not irredeemably evil, but private ownership never works for natural monopolies like services and utilities
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  4536. but the government is the only shareholder, and has final say over industrial disputes
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  4537. ​ @user-fg5zx4gz1z  who said that? The EU doesn't stop governments owning energy companies. Just ask France!
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  4538. ​ @marksimons8861 it's almost like they knew they were committing arson on the UK economy 🤔
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  4539. ...and on the original point, if you want a viable opposition, the LibDems are right there, ready to go
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  4540. and a majority in Scotland, and Liverpool... Let's wrap this up - everywhere except Lincolnshire. Pro EU are the majority now
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  4541. ​ @XAVR_ for a bit of context, the Financial Times are more left wing on tax policy than this Labour party. There is a lot of room for valid criticism of Labour economic policy!
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  4542. but isn't that what barristers are? Maybe I'm missing something because I'm no expert, but who else is there with legal training?
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  4543.  @sueyourself5413  Thankyou, I understand better now!
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  4544. We don't have to speculate there's Rhiannan Rudd. She was treated as a victim of the group who indoctrinated her, rather than the greatest enemy of the state Can anyone see what's different between Rhiannan and Shamina?
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  4545.  @TJ-kw8ct  Our elections are weighted against new parties. If a new party makes a big impression on the public, and gains 15% of the vote, in every constituency in the country... they get zero seats. Unless we change that we are likely stuck with the same two parties forever
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  4546. If you want to be free of multinational controls, renewable energy should be your first priority Who do you think controls the oil and gas?
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  4547.  @Grandude77  council ownership might be even better - at least until we break our bad habit of voting self-serving posh idiots into Westminster!
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  4548. ​ @JH-lf4ql If I was in her seat of Coventry South I'd vote Labour, but I'm not, so I won't. The candidate here is a textbook Starmer loyalist
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  4549. If the masterminds behind Brexit can show us a plan, I'll get behind it. While their "plan" consists of fairy dust and wishes I'll give it all the scornful critique it deserves!
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  4550. ​ @roninhood1027  I worry it will be a museum rather than a living society though. I hope you're not one of them, but there are some people trying to freeze the country without any thought to how we keep everything running!
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  4551. ​@evaluateanalysis7974 fact is we do need the workers - we have to take on the vested interests that care more about profiting from housing, than giving people homes!
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  4552.  @DrJams  The RMT members aren't drivers, so driverless trains wouldn't make any difference here
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  4553. Mick Lynch's job is only safe if the RMT members vote for him
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  4554. What kind of future do we have if everyone is sick and underskilled? It's a false economy
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  4555.  @quentinjalapeno1344  I am now getting all nostalgic for the days when "your Republicans would be an unelectable fringe party here in the UK" was true... That said, there's hope that those days will be back soon!
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  4556. To be honest, the Forde report is an internal party matter that shouldn't be expected to be big news The anomaly is how quick the press were to jump on an internal antisemitism investigation. If there is a press conspiracy, it happened then, not now
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  4557.  @CKNZ161  People don't normally care about matters of internal politics. The reaction to the Forde report? This is normal If you want a reaction to the Forde report that matches the reaction to suspicions of antisemitism, you need dedicated efforts from multiple client media organisations Or in other words, there is no cover-up. There's just nobody able to amplify it enough to make it important
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  4558.  @CKNZ161  I agree that the press can have a huge influence on public opinion when they want to! My point here is, for the Forde report, the opposite is true. Most people don't care, so it would take huge, organised effort to make people care There's so many more effective things to put that effort into right now. The Forde report highlights some concerns that activists should definitely be aware of, but it's a dead end as far as the wider public are concerned. Signal boost the RMT instead!
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  4559. ​@Raymondo666 There are controls on immigration that are not xenophobic, but the Tory "controls" definitely are!
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  4560. @Raymondo666 Set up facilities to do the checks in France. Then we have control over who gets in, and they can travel on safe ferries rather than unlicensed boats, cutting the criminals out of their business This actually secures our border and stops criminal gangs, and is much better value for money than the mad Tory plans!
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  4561. @Raymondo666 How is a facility in France a rejoin scheme? Is the British Embassy in Paris a "rejoin plot" too?
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  4562. @Raymondo666 I did vote remain for what it's worth, but I just can't see how that's relevant here. Setting up a better asylum process shouldn't be a partisan issue
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  4563. @Raymondo666 we paid them to patrol a massive coastline. They did, but of course they missed lots of people, because it's massive! Setting up a centre works better, because the asylum seekers would choose it themselves. You don't need to patrol a massive coastline if nobody wants to be there Finally, don't see anything wrong with giving everyone a fair hearing. That's a principle we should protect for everyone!
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  4564. Yeah, there's vested interests, no doubt Still better to pick Starmer than give the asset strippers backing the Tories free reign to sell off the NHS, and everything else that hasn't already been sold by Thatcher!
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  4565. 19% gets them back to the real terms pay they had under Labour. The Labour government could afford it, why can't the Tories?
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  4566. It seems to imply that if you are born and bred with generations of ancestors in this land, you can pull the statues down. I am OK with that👍
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  4567. It's almost like things are going horribly wrong and they want everyone to stop looking at the government 🤔
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  4568. Random Internet People are making me very happy and approving in this comment section 🙂
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  4569. ...and it ends with government ministers who are immaculately dressed but chronically incompetent. Priorities!
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  4570. Normally, companies with massive debts that can't meet their contracted obligations go bankrupt Why aren't the likes of Thames in bankruptcy?
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  4571. and don't forget the whole House of Lords!
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  4572. ​ @TheWelshman50 honest answer? I don't want pure communism, but housing communism makes a lot of sense
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  4573. I would have thought Moggy would be all for rule by decree just as much as crushing unions!
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  4574. Recent AI developments don't make sense as a productivity improvement - they are a massive loss-leader that doesn't make economic sense ...unless you see it as an IP and data grab. If you see it as an investment by people who want to control all the data and IP rights, then it makes all too much sense
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  4575. The only chart that the USA tops is "most expensive" You don't get particularly amazing care, considering it's about twice as expensive as the next most expensive health care system
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  4576. It's the question at the heart of all sentencing - at the end of the sentence, have they learned and refprmed their ways, or will they do it again given the chance? It will always be a tough question
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  4577. Pandemics are chaotic, not cyclic. There's no reason why another couldn't happen soon - especially when political momentum is more "let's pretend nothing happened" than "let's learn what lessons we can from this"
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  4578. Britain does want to be in the EU. This is the will of the people now, and the call is only growing stronger
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  4579.  @SMILEITMIGHTNOTHAPPENYET  why wouldn't want greater global influence and to be a frictionless part of the prosperous market on our continent?
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  4580.  @SMILEITMIGHTNOTHAPPENYET  I am with you to a degree. I don't care if we're 5th or 50th, but it's undeniable things are not working for us. "heating or eating" never used to be a commonly discussed question! Whether 5th or 50th, can we have an economy that lets ordinary people eat and heat?
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  4581.  @SMILEITMIGHTNOTHAPPENYET  I am sure the people currently struggling will be happy to hear their problems aren't real...
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  4582. Wonder if the CIA regret the 1953 Iranian coup they funded? Because it was America who replaced Iran's secular, democratic government with the theocracy Iran has today
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  4583. That, or it's a right-wing power struggle, where there's agreement on the authoritarianism, but nobody agrees on who gets to be supreme leader!
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  4584. ​ @andrewcalladine2507 Cakeism
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  4585. This is totally capitalism. This is what happens when capitalists get the monopoly they always seek
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  4586.  @MikeL-7  🤣
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  4587. ​ @stephfoxwell4620  but what if I had an illness that is going to make every breath I struggle to take for however many months, or even years, I struggle on for a loving agony of torture? Are you comfortable insisting I suffer that fate?
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  4588.  @judyparsons1333  Tories run up bigger debts than Labour
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  4589.  @KernowDamo  feel free to run with it and tell me if you think it's missing anything!
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  4590. But isn't this beautiful? It sends a powerful message, without disturbing the anti-Tory tactical vote elsewhere This tactic wouldn't work under PR. Just sayin 😉
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  4591. @countryman5329  absolutely! I vote Green 😀
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  4592. If they work and pay taxes, I don't see why they shouldn't have the same services available as other people who work and pay taxes
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  4593.  @boriss.861  Can't say I have any experience of China - have you been?
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  4594. @Julie Newman  Labour stand candidates in every seat. Tice stands down as soon as the Daily Mail orders him to!
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  4595. ​ @VinnyCarwash-js8op then vote for the "change" party who only want to change the colour scheme, and be surprised when nothing changes!
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  4596.  @janendrik6607  the Eastern EU border is a massive land border, but solutions were found. The Scotland-England border is tiny in comparison!
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  4597.  @duggdog9102  the top 1% are hogging all the wealth
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  4598. ​​ @charlesbruggmann7909 she fit right in though - I guess prep schools aren't the only source of entitled idiots, but regardless of source,we should stop electing them!
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  4599. It's not like they don't already know
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  4600.  @jorose2460  order depends on consent - people stick to rules that inconvenience them, because they trust the rules as a whole work for everyone's benefit When you undermine that trust, compliance breaks down
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  4601. So is it reasonable and mainstream to nick steak bakes from Greggs and burn down libraries?
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  4602. And always remember, authoritarian "socialism" is big on the promises, but never, ever delivers
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  4603.  @shap7866  but the UK has many poor areas, and an increasing case of brain drain. We appear to be a damp, cloudy member of the European south
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  4604.  @shap7866  yet "make them worse" is exactly what Brexit did!
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  4605. @@Dnpe-gs3ib but if you want to stop brain drain, you need jobs. Business is moving to the EU because that's where the customers are, and skilled people are following The drain of companies and workers means whoever is still here needs to pay more tax, to make up for the smaller economic base Where's the wins to counterbalance this?
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  4606. @@Dnpe-gs3ib to be fair, they aren't all moving. Some just close instead. The added barriers to export are definitely part of the reason people are losing jobs in Port Talbot, for example
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  4607.  @ProfoundFamiliarity  which suits the people who want to monopolise and prifit from housing Not so good for people who just want somewhere decent to live!
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  4608.  @williamorchard3890  We need change in the electoral system! First Past the post makes it nigh impossible for new parties to grow, and makes politics here really stagnant 🙁
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  4609.  @williamorchard3890  After the last few years of "decisive" politics under a government with a massive majority, I am more than ready to try a bit of coalition government instead!
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  4610.  @williamorchard3890  Reform are pro-Proportional Representation, and take a generally right-wing position on the economy and on culture issues
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  4611. That's not fair! I am sure they worked really hard to work out how hard they could screw everyone without going full Liz Truss again 🤬
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  4612.  @qwertywillbecool  because otherwise it gives all the bankers and financiers the power. Money is already more mobile than people, if you add legal barriers to people on top of the practical challenges then wages suffer
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  4613. ​@in-x-orable2769 if misogynists are misogynistic to you, you're a woman A grim but very effective definition
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  4614. ​ @wamnicho market forces should also affect public sector pay, if we didn't previously have a hypocritically inconsistent government that says it trusts the market, except when the market says "put wages up" 🙄
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  4615. Sacking the most experienced advisors wasn't a good idea, was it?
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  4616. Would still be worth a few quid just to see Boris called a liar, straight to his face 😁
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  4617.  @alwayspooh1588  well, we've seen her in action as foreign secretary, and she spent the whole summer telling us what kind of PM she wants to be Maybe she'll surprise us, but the record so far doesn't give me much hope
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  4618. Can you seriously look at your power bills and tell me it's going great?
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  4619. If you're in Tyneside, you can do both - Driscoll for Mayor, and vote Green for the local council and for Westminster 🙂
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  4620. The Today program on Radio 4, 8:00 tonight, may interest you then 😁
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  4621. The coalition of chaos is Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak!
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  4622.  @richardgallagher4880  you keep defending Etonians and their policies. If you don't think they are on your side, why do you stand up for them?
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  4623.  @richardgallagher4880  I observe your behaviour, and comment on it. If you don't want people thinking you're an Etonian shill, stop shilling Etonian rhetoric
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  4624.  @richardgallagher4880  crappy troll is crap
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  4625. Nige's only diaagreement with Neoliberalism, is that he's not at the top recieving the lion's share Once he's at the top, he won't change anything else
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  4626.  @PJF1981  if we are talking about the press, their power could disappear overnight if people didn't buy the papers and didn't read their stories
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  4627.  @PJF1981  I am not saying it's likely, just saying that, as individuals, we have choices and power
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  4628. Arguably we've been selling the family silver for decades. 2016 was where we had a choice - acknowledge the old cupboards were empty and start building something new, or double down on the denial...
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  4629. I think the case has been made for deeper electoral changes. Two big parties digging in against each other doesn't end well, as we are seeing now
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  4630. ​ @stephenholmes1036 that everybody's mental health is important? What's wrong with that?
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  4631.  @James_08_07  if they are honest, the best they could promise is to rebuild relations, and that's already been promised 🙂
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  4632.  @itz351IT  I do think the election after next will have "start the Rejoin process" as one of the key issues!
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  4633. ​ @indricotherium4802  The stupid two party system is the problem. Why take the risk of spitting off and facing the uphill struggle for recognition when there's the comfortable hope you'll turn things around internally Any Day Soon?
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  4634. At least now were debating real policy rather than discussing nonsense like "wave machines to push away small boats"!
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  4635. If you accept below inflation pay, you're accepting getting poorer. Why should anyone accept that?
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  4636. @taffyterrier  not really, it's still a reduction in their real income, but they have more buffer to absorb it
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  4637.  @taffyterrier  but if they invest less, relative to the wider market, their ability to buy all the assets is reduced Which would be a good thing, but they did get poorer!
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  4638. @taffyterrier  decades ago, you could buy a brand new car for a few hundred pounds. Now that would just about be the scrap value Absolute terms tell you nothing useful!
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  4639. @taffyterrier  never said you have any right to buy one, the point is that value is determined by what you can buy at that point in history, not the absolute value and the rich are getting richer because they almost always secure above inflation increases to their income. They know how the game is played
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  4640. @Si Mondo  is that the same Austrian School ideology that the Chicago Boys were using when they wrecked Chile?
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  4641. Did Sun readers not help him out in finding Brexit benefits?
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  4642. Weird promise to make since he already lives in Spain. Can you threaten to leave somewhere you have already left?
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  4643. @Steve C  it is a waste - why spend so much on hotels, when you could hire staff to handle their claims quicker, and let the legitimate asylum seekers work, and get failed claimants deported? Utter shambles from the Tories!
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  4644. Isn't the fallacy at the beginning? If you already have infinite guests, you can't have another guest arrive. They are already in the hotel
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  4645. Should we jail parents if their kids commit serious criminality?
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  4646. A strike is a temporary "go out" - if the management are confident they want to make it permanent than they can keep digging their heels in, and people will go get new jobs!
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  4647.  @jjefferyworboys8138  but if everyone does that and goes gets jobs in the city, who is going to keep the railway running?
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  4648. ​ @leecornwell632 massive cuts to corporation tax are in the Reform manifesto - plain as day
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  4649. @dogglebird4430 I have not broken the law, do I get a Coutts account?
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  4650. Maybe tell the police, rather than random people on YouTube?
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  4651.  @DavidCodyPeppers.  interesting, I only know Rand as the hardline individualist who ironically ended their life in a state house receiving state healthcare Maybe I need to take another look!
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  4652. We need to shout this loud and clear - Starmer is not left wing So if his government does turn out to be a flop, don't blame the left - no matter how many times Farage and Tice try and claim left wing policies are the problem...
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  4653. Guess it depends on who controls the money, but I would say most MMT advocates would say it's a negotiation between corporations and state. A merger implies aligned policy and interests, while in practice state and corporate priorities will be a mix of both shared interests and conflicting priorities
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  4654.  @moona1552  all the more reason he should apply his immediate justice plan to Liz and Kwazi then!
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  4655.  @twisteddancer7773  well, that's how Great British Power will work, but now your money stays in the UK rather than going to EDF in France 🙂
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  4656. It doesn't matter if Starmer goes. Morgan Mcsweeney is the real boss. Mcsweeney will just push his next puppet forward
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  4657.  @robertpollock2037  fair point, but even then the veneer of civilisation was valued, even if it was incredibly superficial!
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  4658. ​@Basslessonsuk just vote for different parties? There are plenty out there
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  4659. Yes - one coin flip isn't stochastic, but if you flip it ten times you can be confident you will gets heads, but can't predict exactly when This predictability at scale, so you know something is very likely to happen, but not the details of exactly where or when, is what stochastic describes
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  4660. I view Brexit a bit like Godzilla. Defeating the monster is just the first problem. Then we have to rebuild everything it broke
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  4661. Because he screws over his own people, let alone those he considers "the enemy" He's a weasel
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  4662. Are you suggesting that if something is less than pefect, you should just give up and run away?
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  4663.  @fredatlas4396  I have absolutely no idea. It's definitely not because it's made their lives better!
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  4664. Teflon does turn toxic once it starts to break down...
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  4665. On the fascism point, fascism is an authoritarian merger of state and corporate power So if you don't want to be accused of favouring authoritarian state/corporate power, maybe stop using corporate money to set up an authoritarian state?
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  4666.  @rickknight3823  can't find it 🙁 Did you mention a government collection of money from those with very substantial levels of assets? I find the more natural phasing of that gets vanished a lot 🤔
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  4667. It's all a PR stunt. When their legal action fails, Reform will claim "establishment conspiracy" rather than Reform incompetence in legal matters
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  4668. You have your Brexit. If you want it to last forever, you need to convince younger generations that it's worth keeping
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  4669. A political party has the right to set standards If Lee doesn't want to stay above that bar, he's welcome to join another, or go independent
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  4670. Mini budget? This massive, un-manifestoed change in economic policy is a mini budget? Words are losing all meaning...
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  4671. @Heather Moore The economy was growing when Brown was PM Cameron derailed it!
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  4672. @billB101  by implication, yes - because Johnson and Truss is what we got, when we could have had Corbyn instead. How confident are you that Corbyn would have been worse than those two?
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  4673. ​@MCDONALD6969 but it's not free, is it? It's paid through our taxes
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  4674. @nickjanczak9665  wow, YouTube. Apparently "taxes pay for public services" is a controversial opinion that can't be posted 🙄
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  4675. The cancelling of posts in this thread is ridiculous...
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  4676.  @JH-lf4ql  a continuation of George Osborne's economic policy
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  4677. but what's left of Brexit, if you take away xenophobia and tax dodging?
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  4678.  @TheOutsider840  so it's only a flesh wound? Am I right?
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  4679. It won't reduce prices, ever. If we've sold the licences to private interests we'll buy it back at the global rate 🙁
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  4680. ​ @trevormannsfield  bingo - even when they can attack a Labour MP over it, they don't dare open the lid on that can of worns, as their own interests would be in that can too
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  4681. If the campaign is tight and focused, I think it's the perfect time to try and get some Greens and independents elected There's only a small number being targeted, so this won't impact the majority of seats. Just a few where a difference is pragmatically possible
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  4682. There's some parts of the country that put a lot of weight in such things. If hanging a few flags and singing a song wins a bunch of seats, why not hang the flags and sing the song?
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  4683. It wasn't given away. Thatcher sold it!
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  4684. If the economy and public polling don't bounce back quickly and stay where the Tories want them to be, expect the blue on blue fighting to return, more vicious and brutal than before!
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  4685. We have plenty of IT and database expertise, but being wise and talented, they don't work for the sort of people who get UK government contracts
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  4686. I am less than convinced that Amazon knows what it's doing with all this "AI", and it's likely to turn into a giant white elephant Maybe they'll surprise me and find a practical, cost effective use for all this electricity and hardware - but I suspect they'd surprise themselves too when that happens!
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  4687. I believe there are many good journalists out there, but as Peter's story shows, they are being blocked by massively corrupt editors and owners We really need to take a close look at who owns our media, and how they influence the editorial position of the news they chose to run!
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  4688. ​ @AndyTomlins I feel a surgeon should be considered a highly skilled job, so the flipside is there are also low skill jobs They should still get a livable wage though!
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  4689. Problem is the Tories just don't care about anyone but their donor chums. They don't care about the homeless They only care about making headlines about asylum seekers (but can't run an asylum process if their lives depend on it) They don't understand how to run the economy They are wrecking the NHS The Tories need to go!
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  4690. ​ @warrenchu5752 maybe the people vote for are incompetent Let's not vote for the people you vote for!
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  4691. Aparently Rishi was talking about Starmer's record on major policies So apparently penises are major policy for Rishi. Explains what they were doing when they should have been focusing on economics, doesn't it?
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  4692. I have some understanding of it's economic problems, meanwhile I can say with authority that the electricity costs of running the cryptography that keeps it validated is becoming a serious issue. For smaller transactions it's possible to spend as much on electricity to process the transaction as you do on the transaction itself. With power, and the climate impact of power, being ever more important, that is a big concern! Economically, I'll bow to more experienced people if they reply, but I believe the problem is it's volatile and prone to manipulation by speculators. The lack of a controlling authority is a weakness if you have wealthy interests deliberately creating boom and bust cycles to cash out in traditional currencies. Attempts to use it for day to day purposes would be difficult when it's exchange rate is so unpredictable
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  4693.  @gungadin900  inflation (assuming it is managed properly by interest rates) doesn't transfer money to the rich, it transfers it to those actively earning. Being rich gives you more options for earning, so they still stack the deck,but it's better than the Smaugpiles that happened on the gold standard!
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  4694.  @gungadin900  inflation (assuming it is managed properly by interest rates) doesn't transfer money to the rich, it transfers it to those actively earning. Being rich gives you more options for earning, so they still stack the deck,but it's better than the Smaugpiles that happened on the gold standard!
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  4695. This is the heart of it. Too many flag wavers obsess about the piece of fabric, while neglecting the very people the flag represents 🙁
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  4696. Let them apply for asylum from anywhere. Then we can let them on the train and on ferries, track their arrivals and know where they are if their claim is rejected Requiring they have to be in the UK to apply just means it's harder to run things properly. Everyone wins if we let them apply from anywhere and get on a ferry if they pass initial checks
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  4697. Agreed, except for number 3. Liz Truss destroyed the honeymoon for Liz Truss!
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  4698. Bingo! Vote for bankers, don't be surprised that all your money is going to banks and landlords!
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  4699.  @ronnieince4568  how much of that staffing is the UK having to now do a lot of things entirely in house that used to be shared across the EU?
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  4700.  @ronnieince4568  I will look into that. Some of it doesn't fit with what I thought I knew about the German setup, but I will double check before I say anything definitive! I do know that on matters like customs, borders and standards testing we've created a lot of extra work for ourselves that just didn't exist before withdrawal
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  4701.  @ronnieince4568  community and home care is something Labour plan to improve 🙂
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  4702. ​ @marinusvos it's not cherrypicking if it's bilateral
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  4703.  @marinusvos  not everything is an antagonistic competition. Mutual benefits are possible, so why not discuss them?
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  4704. Absolutely. If it was a sincere question, they'd have an answer by now. They've been asking long enough!
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  4705. @imSatnav  that's the problem they have though! To stay in government, they need to pass a budget - if the budget fails, it's a failure of confidence in government and Parliament dissolves Do you think this mess of factions and backstabbings could get behind one shared budget?
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  4706. @Lori  yeah, he breaks things more subtly than wrecking ball Truss Still breaking everything though
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  4707. That's already on us though. We just need to stop voting for these idiots, and they go away!
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  4708.  @bossman1905  that barely covers rent and essential bills in many parts of the country! We need to improve the average for everyone, not drag people down to that
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  4709. @B T  make a lifestyle choice that will change your future! stop voting Tory
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  4710. Wales did something, as did Scotland and London They got round the table and made a realistic offer!
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  4711.  @tombartram7384  it's not about African wages, it's about American and Australian wages. If they are willing to move to another country, why would they choose the UK over countries with better pay and conditions?
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  4712. ​ @Jonnyonthespot123 and now our country is thoroughly leveled.... down to dust 🙁
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  4713. The slightly cynical, but realistic truth is politicians will look after whoever they depend on to be reelected If that's the press (and those who fund the press), then that is who a politician will prioritise. We need politicians who rely mainly on grassroots support, as then even the most cynically mercenary among them will look after the grassroots, as the politician needs their support
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  4714.  @hariowen3840  the Greens and the Lib Dems have strong internal democracies, and depend more on their grassroots activists than on big donors It shows in their manifestos 🙂
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  4715.  @MrMarcusWWW  That's what less passengers is though, in business terms - less money, less profits. Will the board personally do anything to adapt to the changed circumstances? If they won't, why should anyone else?
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  4716.  @MrMarcusWWW  To my understanding, there is work for all those people. The executive are trying to cut corners on safety and maintainace, which is a bit different to letting people go because there isn't work for them
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  4717.  @MrMarcusWWW  people are sick of people sitting in ivory towers, claiming to know what works while being detached from reality. People are ready for experts who have their feet on the ground
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  4718. Wootton has the same smirk
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  4719. We can't be closely integrated with anything that's best part of a day away by air, and weeks away by sea!
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  4720. Or do some economics, and remind them they don't have a business if they don't have any workers 😉
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  4721. If supermarket staff went on partial strike and refused to restock any of the high-profit goods and only sell basics for a week I would be with them all the way!
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  4722.  @Supposedlyimrightwingnow  Unite have been doing an amazing job recently. They go through the finances of the company so they know what the company can afford before they even sit down to negotiate. They've got their members a deal 3 times in four More unions need to look at what Unite are doing and copy their example. It's another option that's working well!
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  4723. ​ @magictrades159  if you want old people to be able to retire, immigration is a necessity We just don't have the people to keep everything working without inviting people here to help us
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  4724.  @branduusituuli  but if everyone has a big pile of economically inactive capital, that will devalue the currency far more than our current mild inflation will!
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  4725.  @branduusituuli  I'll go for an extreme example, to demonstrate the effect. Let's imagine everyone suddenly gains enough money to buy an average house outright. Are house prices going to stay the same? No - they'll rise. Sellers will know the money is out there, and buyers will have to compete. You want to buy that house? Too bad, you've been outbid by a group who were willing to pool their resources to outbid you Prices will rebalance to reflect the buying power that's in the market. That's what market dynamics do
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  4726.  @branduusituuli  so an economic mexican standoff, where everyone has money, but nobody wants to lose out by making the first move on spending any? Typically that results in a shadow economy, where economic activity is done by barter and ad-hoc IOUs. If it continues long enough, people will adopt a foreign currency as a de facto local currency, or a semi-formal shadow currency will form Simple truth is currency only has value if people buy stuff with it, and the more it is stockpiled, the less useful it is
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  4727.  @branduusituuli  this is an interesting conversation, because we agree of a lot of things, just disagree on how to achieve them So for more conversation fuel, what if we lean into being able to print fiat currency, but give it to people who currently don't have much wealth, rather than giving it to the already wealthy? What do you think would happen then?
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  4728. The Tories have screwed up massively. They've put all of us on the "enemies" side, and left nobody on theirs 🤣
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  4729. ​ @andyinsuffolk but wealth absolutely is a barrier to other people gaining wealth If I want to start a shop, and someone with generational wealth does the same, they can outbid me on that property. Their wealth can (and often does) bid me out of opportunities to get a foot on the ladder
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  4730.  @andyinsuffolk  so your entire life advice is "be born rich"?
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  4731.  @andyinsuffolk  fiat currency only favours asset owners if you give new money to existing asset owners If you give new money to wage earners, either directly as a basic income, or indirectly by funding public services and infrastructure, fiat currency will benefit wage earners instead
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  4732. ​@Molsy 176 and unionisation is proven to be effective at increasing wages. That's why shareholders love union busting so much. Unionise before scapegoating migrants!
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  4733. ​ @TheValdevor you can get a mortgage on a mediocre home? You're doing better than the UK, where nobody can afford the deposit, so we're stuck renting the mediocre home instead 🙁
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  4734.  @christophermoorhouse8828  True, but he's stated he'd rather have Starmer as PM than Truss
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  4735.  @christophermoorhouse8828  33% of the country, according to recent polls 😳
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  4736. For what it's worth, 42% of votes were Tory. They have the majority of seats, but they didn't get a majority of votes!
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  4737. ​ @staninjapan07 the good thing about taxes is it means a currency will always have value. Unless Trump really breaks things, a dollar will always have some value, because you can settle a US tax bill with it Bitcoin could drop to zero if the bubble bursts. It has nothing anchoring it like a state-backed fiat currency does
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  4738.  @rexiioper6920  there isn't much to see. The Tories have already dipped their hand in!
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  4739. ​ @mikeyacson9542  You don't live in a big city then, like a lot of nurses do They have to live there, because that's where the hospital is!
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  4740. Yes to Greens!
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  4741. Democracy means that if people vote to be represented by a walking skidmark, that's what they'll get No, I don't understand why you'd want that either, but apparently many people do
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  4742.  @djbogz1921  Fair, there should be scrutiny of the authorities. Sounds like they are not doing their jobs properly here
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  4743. It is discontent - we are very discontented with Tories!
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  4744. "I don't want to be waving placards at the government, I want to be the government" That is a good answer!
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  4745.  @kevh6948  one way to find out - I am willing to give her a chance!
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  4746. But they're Brexiteers, they'd just lie about staying in the UK like they lied about everything else
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  4747. Do we need to buy stuff from India and China? If we can cut out all but absolute essentials we can't get anywhere else, that will make a difference!
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  4748.  @My_Name_Is_Brian  I am no royalist, but if there's a constitutional rule for it, and he shows he's listening to parliament rather than acting all Henry VIII I can see most people being OK with this
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  4749.  @My_Name_Is_Brian  That I would not be happy with. My red line is "does this ignore parliament" with a special case of "when parliament is dysfunctional, ask the general public to vote in a new one" In all these cases, Charles isn't giving his personal views special privilege ahead of the democratic body of the people
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  4750. I would say the opposite. History shows that once a party truly falls under FPTP, it becomes an existential change they never recover from If the Tories ever become the third party in Westminster, it is unlikely they will ever recover
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  4751. ​@keithparker1346 Tory core voters are literally disappearing, they are an aging demographic The donors won't disappear, but I can see a situation where the money behind the party decides it's easier to build up a new party than turn around the reputation of the Tories
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  4752. It's exactly the right time to focus on getting people outside the two party system elected, by focusing efforts where there's a suitable candidate with a realistic chance
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  4753. ​@markmcnulty7736 if it isn't, it should be 😁
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  4754.  @pickledaardvark1532  Strongly disagree. Businesses are obliged to do their best by shareholders. If the options on the table are no dividends, or lose the investment completely, no dividends meets the obligation. Dividends are best effort, not a mandatory requirement
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  4755.  @martinvickers7349  and it's Tory incompetence keeping the other 30% here
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  4756. It's almost like the problem was in Westminster all along 🤔
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  4757. It's just panto with only one character
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  4758. If they are ignoring us, we are on the right track. If they weren't threatened, the March would be turned into a joke piece on pro-Brexit news The fact they don't feel confident enough to risk that says everything you need to know 🙂
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  4759. My guess is a pivot to being Pro EU after losing the election after next
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  4760. ​@johndonson1603 true, but voting Green registers your dissatisfaction with the big two without also voting for Trussonomics
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  4761. @nigelthorn2062  if there's a supply and demand imbalance, increase supply! That doesn't just have to be building houses. It can also be encouraging houses left empty to be used. There's a lot of empty homes out there!
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  4762. @nigelthorn2062  there's about a million homes out there sat empty. A million homes would definitely make a difference!
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  4763. @johndonson1603  there's a lot of empty homes in places like Chelsea. There's definitely jobs you can commute to from there!
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  4764. We know you do!
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  4765.  @theoutsider6191  sounds like we need to tax people who made wild profits out of the previous status quo, so we have the means to fix our country
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  4766. ​ @stevec6427  but the real Coalition of Chaos is Johnson and Truss!
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  4767. They don't even prioritise the economy, they'll happily trash the economy to bung cash to their chums
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  4768. So if it's a gain for Rwanda, why don't we keep the gain instead?
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  4769. Corbyn has been an MP for decades, are you saying Feinstein has this in the bag?
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  4770. ​ @redboyjan true, but at least they are more the Elwood end of the Tories than the Braverman end!
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  4771.  @grolfe3210  any figures on how often that saving was real? Often, the new externalities cost more than the savings
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  4772. I trust experts a lot more when they can point to their old predictions that they got right!
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  4773. ​ @foxmoongaze we are not looking at the same Argentina here
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  4774.  @foxmoongaze  I am seeing a hollowing out that's going to leave it reverting to developing nation status if they stick with the current trajectory. There will be a few profitable sectors left standing, but not enough to sustain the country
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  4775. @foxmoongaze  if I was Argentinian, and able to leave, I'd be looking at my options. Many already have!
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  4776.  @foxmoongaze  there's some common patterns there. Wonder who will stop self-harming first?
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  4777. Next time there's a banking crash,who pays for that?
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  4778.  @liveitlarge68  in terms of the Pounds spent, the books are balanced, but a decade of austerity left the rest of the country short of investment. The indirect costs are the poor productivity everywhere training and infrastructure was slashed to cover the bailout As for another crash? Very possible, given that the Tories want to tear out every regulation put in place to guard against another crash...
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  4779.  @liveitlarge68  I was only confirming what you said - that we have recovered the taxes spent on the bailout Agreed that the wider book is far from balanced!
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  4780.  @liveitlarge68  follow the success stories around the world! Successful economies are high tax, high investment. It's not the taxes that puts off business, it's the lack of skills and the crumbling infrastructure
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  4781. ​@Andy Andy don't see what's so funny about those profiteering parasites!
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  4782. @LowPlainsDrifter60  sure, what are the key facts here? Let's have a starting point
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  4783. The country wants action, not another inquiry Another inquiry just kicks the can down the road for another seven years!
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  4784. They are jailing people for it! Have we jailed any corrupt politicians in the UK yet?
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  4785. Stopping Putin now is expensive, but stopping him next year will cost even more Economically and morally, it's shortsighted
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  4786. ​@fumbleBumble82 I don't normally reach for playground insults, but in this case "I know you are but what am I?" is the correct response to Fox
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  4787. What I don't get is a few years ago we were deporting 50000 people a year, all above board and compliant with international treaties Last year it was around 5000. If the Tories can't manage to deport people with failed claims and expired visas, how are they ever going to make anything work?
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  4788. I wish that we true - instead it will be the American model of drugs for everyone, even if they're of dubious relevance 🙁
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  4789.  @alternativelooney  ooh, Liz Truss isn't doing much right now - give her the job! If she negotiates with Nurses the same way she negotiates with Australia they'll have fair pay in no time!
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  4790. I think many of his colleagues are putting up strong competition for that title!
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  4791. We don't elect the PM, we elect MPs. Whichever party has the most MPs in government puts their leader forward as PM If people don't like the Tory party choice for PM, they need to stop voting for Tory MPs in government!
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  4792.  @raymondelf7520  It would be a betrayal if they don't! A repeat of the Brexit party dropout would destroy the credibility of Reform
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  4793. I'd ask if any of the survey firms actually have any surveyors
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  4794. but Susan Hall is an absolute numpty. Have you heard her in an interview?
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  4795.  @_Shinasu  we got 2016 backwards - we left the EU and kept the Tories We should have stayed in the EU and dumped the Tories
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  4796.  @dave4803  did stop and search ever make a noticeable difference? And what difference it did make would have been cut when the Tories cut police numbers!
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  4797. ​ @vinay7397 automated trains are fine in very controlled conditions. On less enclosed tracks, automated trains would be fine, until they tragically and spectacularly are not
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  4798. ​ @glen9303 you're one of the rare decent ones then Sadly most of your peers voted for selling off the nations assets, and letting them pocket the money into tax havens 🙁
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  4799. ​@cherylemmanuel744 It's not the whole solution, but this would be a good start We need an example setting from the top. When our government goes around calling anyone who has the slightest difference of opinion an "enemy of the people", we can't be shocked if many people take that as permission to act that way too
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  4800. ​ @raggedcritical a lettuce can beat these Tories! It's no great achievement...
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  4801. ​@philipwoods3767 even within the low-stakes field of gaming, the controller he used is infamously flaky. As off the shelf components go, it was an ominously poor choice
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  4802.  @simpsonrob  Logitech F710 isn't it? Known for connectivity issues, although you'd assume they wouldn't have to worry about interference from other devices down there, if that was the issue...
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  4803. Aid to Ukraine is largely military, and there isn't an EU military. Are you saying the EU should have it's own military, that could provide aid to Ukraine?
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  4804. The gold standard is the worst idea for ordinary people - it gives all the power to the people who currently have the gold How much gold do you have?
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  4805.  @MrGazzy  there was no shortage of wars when the gold standard was active!
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  4806. @Juliana Krapnika  I know Italy better than Sweden, and Italy looks like the latest in a long line of politicians who made big promises to get elected, but has no idea how to keep those promises now they've won It's not the first time, and I doubt it's the last!
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  4807. @Juliana Krapnika  I am ready to give Labour a chance, especially as they are being a lot more grounded, and not promising the moon on a stick!
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  4808.  @julieanncurnow971  they are offering to start fixing things, but not promising to be world beating by next Tuesday. After some of the overhyped promises of recent times, I'm ready for getting some basics straightened out 🙂
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  4809. Her beloved free market is speaking, yet she refuses to listen!
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  4810. ​@AndrewJepson-sn3yg and your evidence of this is?
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  4811.  @chrisj9700  deficit spending isn't a bad thing if done wisely As a houshold example, if your car was old, unreliable and putting you at risk of losing your job because you're regularly late for work, would you buy a reliable car on credit? Investing in future income makes sense. Austerity is when you lose your job rather than buy a car on credit that reliably gets you to work
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  4812. ​ @ProfessorTimWilson is that because there's no point engaging in nuanced discussion with Braverman, as she has never shown any interest or capability in doing so?
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  4813. What's wrong with having an opposition MP who specialises in opposing a specific Minister? It surely helps scrutinise government policy!
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  4814.  @vincentmckenna1755  who are staying in hotels owned by Tory donors 🤔
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  4815. ​@Roadrunner_1000but every renter who can now afford to buy is one less renter in the rental market 🙄
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  4816. @Roadrunner_1000 if there's ten families renting, and two new renters need homes, how many homes do we need? Now, if we have 5 renters and 5 owner-occupiers, and two new renters need homes, how many homes do we need?
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  4817. I am interested to discuss this idea. If we are being hard nosed capitalist about it, do we get a return on investment? If they integrate and get jobs, do we then get tax breaks in recognition of the support initially invested to get them integrated and trained up?
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  4818.  @tomgl6684  I am torn on this one. Clearly the school you were sent to by your parents shouldn't be a stigma you can't shake off, but if you are unconditionally proud without caveat about having attended such a place? Yeah, that tells me a lot about who you are!
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  4819.  @tomgl6684  Yeah, there's definitely nuance there that can be lost in the rush to score points in an argument
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  4820. He's discovering that the UK doesn't have much of a safety net for people unable to get work Nobody deserves to be treated like they are in this position, but Fox is hardly alone. Millions of people are in the same position, or worse This is a societal problem, not a conspiracy against one actor who said some daft things on social media!
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  4821. That's cos he's not socialist - he won't nationalise the water, even though privatisation is a disaster of sewage and debt!
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  4822. They do need funding from somewhere though - how would you fund politics instead? For me, I am OK with the donations, just make it transparent. Anything over £100 from one person has to be openly declared Then Shell or BP can donate if they like, but we know what we're getting if we vote for that party!
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  4823. Regaining free movement isn't a cost 🙂
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  4824.  @steveb951  so only just short of the cost of the whole furlough scheme for two years, blown in two days Job done breaking everything, Kwasi!
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  4825.  @edwardmclaughlin7935  have to start somewhere. Listing everything broken would take too long
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  4826. Tice is clearly wrong about what socialism is. Is he ignorant, or deliberately muddying the water?
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  4827. @jacobmoore4493  It was my immediate thought when I heard the claim, and I didn't see the point in starting a new response when there's already conversations started. Happily people are reacting with curiosity more than hostility 🙂
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  4828. The "Liz was right" argument is daft. Sunak has broke things over a few months. The Liz crew are celebrating that she managed to do the same damage in just a few minutes...
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  4829.  @ruthwhall3020  money works to buy the resources, it's worthless if there's nothing to buy It's not about some hippy post-currency idealist utopia, it's about remembering money is just a tool to manage how we share out the real resources. All the money in the world can't buy things that are all gone!
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  4830. ​@padraigohooligan8363 yep. If you're going to complain that the banks are unaccountable, you also need to complain about every other shareholder-aligned organisation Which is a fair, if daunting, target. The privatised utilities might be the best place to start, I reckon 🙂
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  4831. Can you take the rest of the aristocracy with you? Thanks in advance!
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  4832. How do superyachts improve the patient experience?
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  4833. Labour's plan to build a nationalised power generation company alongside the private ones is a good idea. As it grows, private companies will have to compete on price or go out of business. The national company may even get to buy out the competition for fair, maybe even firesale, prices
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  4834. There is so much to dig into there, I would summarise my key thoughts like this - it will be something to account for in marking. If your grading system can't detect bluffers, it's not fit for purpose - it suggests we have a culture problem. Is education valued, or merely qualifications? If we have a culture that values education, nobody would even want to use ChatGPT in this way. However, when the goal is simply the piece of paper at the end, the temptation will be there
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  4835. He was the one learning here, he did alright at keeping up 😁
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  4836. They prosecute all the burglaries where the thief is kind enough to record the theft on camera and post it to the Internet!
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  4837. How much money do you make if you take on the risk but let others keep the profits?
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  4838. ​@Stookie M should we put up and shut up, or stand up for ourselves? We can't do both!
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  4839. In what way is it a waste of taxpayer money?
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  4840. @hughjohns9110  what makes you think I voted Labour? PS how's the new lightbulb?
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  4841. @hughjohns9110  really bad. All they need to do is open a centre in France and they'll stop overnight! Instead, they're chasing ghosts by trying to "smash the gangs"
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  4842. Protest post to highlight that YouTube is hiding perfectly clean and respectable posts again 🙁
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  4843. They want to stretch your mortgage so thin, you're effectively renting it off the bank rather than owning it 🙁
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  4844. If it gets invested well, then that's fantastic!
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  4845. ​@myzamau428 but we do re-do the world cup, every four years!
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  4846. What did the Tories sell off this time?
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  4847. @magnificentbastard5085  what is "fiscal discipline" - rebadged austerity. They have the same position on privatisation as the Tories too
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  4848. @fang_xianfu  that's going to be an eternal debt trap though. How will we have the revenue to clear debt if our economy is in a dead-end? It needs to be done wisely, but austerity has to be actively stopped. Without active intervention, austerity just keeps fueling more austerity
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  4849. @magnificentbastard5085  We will find out when we see concrete policy comitments. I hope we will see a 21st century Atlee, but I worry we'll get continuity Osborne
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  4850. Lions lead by donkeys is the best answer to this! Yes, we have great people with great potential, but we need to get rid of the self-serving corrupt clique currently in office that are pushing everyone else down
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  4851. @left_blank yep, issuing currency doesn't work forever, as Mugabe spectacularly proved in Zimbabwe
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  4852. @left_blank you say that, but if you look for recent examples of printing more money, they all come from the Tories 🤔
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  4853. @left_blank France and Germany spend more per head on healthcare than the UK does Are you saying the Tories have broken the economy, and we are unable to keep up with our European neighbours?
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  4854. @left_blank  Germany has an insurance based model. They still spend more than we do, because the German economy is healthy enough for people to afford it Quibbling about how the money is collected doesn't change the fact that our health service is underfunded compared to more effective peers
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  4855. @left_blank how can a health service be overused? Are people giving themselves cancer for giggles?
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  4856. @left_blank so you suggest we should be more like the Netherlands, where they are more proactive on mental health care and therapists? That works out cheaper than dealing with chronic addictions and other late consequences of neglect
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  4857. @left_blank Fair enough, I think I understand better where you're coming from now 🙂
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  4858. ​ @JGJohns09 NK is a perfect storm of terribleness. The leaders cannibalised the economy for their personal benefit, then made enemies everywhere to maximise isolation and discourage help Short of using their own cities for live testing of WMDs, it's hard to find any way of doing a worse job than NK is doing
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  4859. ​ @zerog1037 it's true that a monopoly for finished games is almost impossible, however a monopoly for funding games (or a very chummy duopoly) is looking all too possible
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  4860.  @gwaptiva  Yep, survivorship bias is one you have to be very aware of!
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  4861.  @shinkansenshinkansend8316  are you trying to tell me that Switzerland is a failure, then?
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  4862.  @downshift4503  I don't do it now, bit I did part-time to get some money during college. I'm not too high and fancy for it!
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  4863. @downshift4503  honestly, of the zero-qualification jobs I did back then, it was one of my favourites. The early start sucks, but otherwise it was nice to be outside and not stuck in one place!
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  4864. LBC goes for seesaw balance - some far on the left, some far on the right, none in the centre
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  4865. There's no manipulation involved, because there is no need. They find willing enthusiastic shills who don't need bribing, then give them the resources to go nuts If they weren't already willing shills, they don't get hired in the first place
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  4866. I don't believe in autocracy, but I could get behind giving the only vote in South Norfolk to that woman!
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  4867. There is a mechanism for redistributing from productive people to unproductive people It's called "rentier capitalism"
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  4868.  @jameswhyte5094  I am not sure you can take activity that involves investing capital, with the intention of aquiring more capital and not call it capitalism. How does that work?
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  4869.  @jameswhyte5094  you're going to get a planned economy if all the investment descisions are concentrated in a few hands. That's true whether the consolidation mechanism is revolution and dictatorship, or corporate buyouts
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  4870.  @tonyfraser1749  same old blah blah. How many Brexiteers are going to crash and burn in the effort to make Brexit work?
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  4871. ​ @ChronicCraftsman that Germans love their billionaires, and want to make sure their billionaires are suitably pampered?
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  4872. they didn't put "in thirty years" on the side of the bus!
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  4873. So true. On money the BBC, the Square Mile and Eton college are all looking out for each other
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  4874. There is an interesting legal loophole though. While siezed assets can't be given away, apparently you can fund loans with them, then say you don't require the loan to be repaid EU "loans" to Ukraine are being done for this reason
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  4875.  @imbonkers3629  largest civil service. Not even top 10
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  4876. ​ @lobbyskids2 but people want money spent on hospitals!
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  4877.  @lobbyskids2  what did the US government do? As generally, private insurance is cheapest in very interventionary, regulated models, like the Bismarkian health insurance model
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  4878. ​ @mikeserridge4547 well, it's old people creating hospital demand. Do you have a plan to reduce that ( that isn't horrible)?
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  4879. ​ @warriorontheedgeoftime4224 even if you consider Blair to be a Tory, he was clearly the least worst Tory of the last 4 decades
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  4880.  @davidedwards1476  Democracy means I can vote for whoever I like and campaign for whatever I want Parliament has to follow the mandate it's given. I am not in parliament! For what it's worth, I would love a world where we can find common ground, but so far I've seen no such efforts made by the 'winners'. You don't have to accept our solutions, but if you want to build bridges you have to acknowledge our concerns!
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  4881. ​ @suzisandpiper well, the real boss in the background is Morgan McSweeney. He likes the loyal poodles, and Starmer's just another one of the poodles
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  4882. ​ @terrysmith5168 I agree we can and should be proud of collective achievements, but we should concentrate on current achievement, and stop resting so heavily on laurels long past
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  4883.  @garywilton246  they are proud because they are overcoming prejudice and discrimination What challenge are you overcoming that you are proud of?
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  4884.  @garywilton246  you should have stuck with Northern Ireland, you've faced some big challenges there As for being a white, straight male, as a white, straight male, let me dig out my tiny violin to show my sympathy for the hardships white straight males face...
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  4885. @garywilton246  well, please do make me look like a git - what's your story of hardship that I am so cruelly mocking?
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  4886.  @xxNATHANUKxx  bingo! Here's the fix we need!
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  4887. ​ @Oldmanpeace If you're trying to implement policy, that's important, but if you're on the outside just checking if it's working for you, that will be shown in the prices you pay in the shops, so the rule of thumb above still works 🙂
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  4888. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
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  4889.  @229andymon  at the risk of being That Guy on the Soapbox, I believe that is down to us,and the journalism we choose to support. I'll be entirely honest,I can't remember everything that's gone on in politics, and I'm pretty engaged with it. Someone less engaged has no chance. This may sound a bit highbrow, but I can't think of a better phrasing - journalists are our collective memory. They remind us of what has happened before that is relevant to what is happening now If we only have journalists funded by the usual establishments, they get to choose what gets remembered when we need it. Is it any wonder that we have amnesia on certain topics given this setup?
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  4890. Starmer is a windsock. Whatever the focus groups and polls tell him, he does. The idea of creating his own narrative is utterly alien to him
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  4891. There does seem to be different standards on whether an apology is sufficient, depending on the form of bigotry almost like there's a heirarchy...
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  4892. Waiting lists have been growing under the Tories. This predates the strikes. This predates Covid The Tories have broken the NHS 🙁
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  4893. I worry the best way to "reform" it is wait for it to crash, and next time, bail out the people affected by the crash, not the people who were responsible
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  4894.  @andyforshaw8489  how many far left parties are even close to being in government right now? If they aren't big enough to be newsworthy, they aren't in the news
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  4895. ​ @cartercarter3260  win all round!
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  4896. Let me find my Captain Obvious hat because people listen to him
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  4897. You can find better journalism on YouTube than most TV channels nowadays Low bar to clear, I know 😉
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  4898.  @mogznwaz  the free market is as real as currency is. Both are useful and usable, but neither should be taken for granted!
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  4899.  @cal7168  Services often require a common legal framework and standards, and we just broke alignment with our nearest market Many services are going to relocate their offices to the EU, because that's where the customers are
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  4900.  @me38443  Off the top of my head, the one I know that moved here is Shell, and that was a small head office with a few admin staff, nominated as head office for tax dodging purposes I'd be happy to look into other ones, if you know of them
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  4901.  @me38443  Any idea of the numbers? Is it enough to balance all the capital and personnel moving the other way?
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  4902.  @me38443  100k would be great, but sounds a bit unrealistic. A major bank has about 5k employees. Are we really seeing 20 major banks setting up?
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  4903.  @oditeomnes  it's not "investment" that's harming argiculture, it's terrible trade deals undercutting the domestic market, and export red tape cutting off the export market
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  4904.  @kanedNunable  pensioners are going to be hit really hard if the Tories trash the NHS!
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  4905. Build more council houses - 100% agree!
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  4906. ​ @DropdudeJohn  and Joe Cox was murdered by a Brexiteer Still want to take the view that we judge a whole demographic on the actions of one individual?
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  4907. Yep. Sorry they got caught, not sorry-sorry
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  4908. ​@Abcd-j9i would you welcome Charles Bronson as a neighbour?
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  4909.  @jonathanbowen3640  yes and no, a lot of banks just look at the finances in isolation without much awareness of the wider economy. That's for loans. If they are trading they often think even narrower and shorter term still!
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  4910. @user-ly4el7qf7t  fair play, glad it's working for you! Why drag in people who don't want to be there though? Aren't you just going to be carrying people who don't want to be there?
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  4911.  @Jacks-g6w  maybe we should organise against the government? Likely to be more attractive than working for the people who screwed everything up
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  4912. @Neil G  different groups for different issues The local council sets which day bins are collected on National government decides national law The EU parliament decides EU trade law Deciding continent-wide rules at continent level is as common sense as deciding local issues at local council level
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  4913. @Neil G  Trade is the central focus, but a lot of things overlap with trade. Workers rights, as an example. If you're going to protect working conditions while also protecting the economy, then you need to be aware of both when setting tariffs and such things The core idea remains - some policies just work better when decided as a big organisation, and wouldn't work if you tried to do them as a small organisation
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  4914.  @neilg4208  The rest of the world is managing by also forming large trade blocs with their neighbours!
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  4915. @Neil G  but if you have the same customs laws, those are shared laws? Every union agrees to decide something collectively, how could it be a union if nothing is shared?
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  4916.  @neilg4208  that is a very sensible thing to harmonise if you have a common market and a shared external tariff and customs border
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  4917. @Neil G  I understand it manages trade, including internal trade. I accept that is a somewhat fuzzy thing, and where trade competence stops, and not-trade starts will be an eternal discussion!
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  4918. @Neil G  They are all trade related, because policies in those areas can be used to undercut competition Previously, you could protect domestic standards without completely cutting trade by adding tariffs. That isn't an option if you have no internal trade borders though, so you need to agree something else All those other EU competences are how you avoid a race to the bottom on standards with no internal trade borders. Always interested to hear alternate ideas for how to do it though!
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  4919.  @neilg4208  USMCA (the current successor of NAFTA) absolutely has common standards that all are expected to maintain. They just get decided behind closed doors instead of a democratic parliament There's a bit of a focus on investor rights, especially American ones...
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  4920.  @neilg4208  America won't take rules from Mexico or Canada What about the other way around?
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  4921.  @neilg4208  well,their domestic regs aren't the strongest, are they? It would be kinda odd if they made Mexico safer than the USA
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  4922. Sadly, many places are so short staffed, 'strike' day cover is identical to day-to-day cover. The staffing situation is that bad already 🙁
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  4923. @ROY BOY  you mean your life hasn't been fundamentally changed for the better, now you don't need lawnmower insurance?
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  4924. What about people looking for work but unable to find any locally? Would you pay for them to move house to find work instead?
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  4925.  @paulinskipukprogressive4903  my question is, when are they going to stop bowing to Murdoch, if bowing to Murdoch keeps working?
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  4926.  @paulinskipukprogressive4903  but how do we do that, especially if they have a massive majority?
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  4927. On that note, the "Call an immediate general election to end the chaos of the current government" petition is now over 500k The Tories claim they are ignoring it, but the panicked reactions of backbench MPs tells me they are watching it very closely!
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  4928. This is the ratchet effect on action The Tories break everything, then the Blairites soften the damage, but only a bit Then the Tories claim Labour aren't very effective ( a classic Tory deception built around a nugget of truth) and come and break things further We need a genuine alternative to the two party establishment, or we will keep falling
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  4929. ​ @nawaz345 spend and tax, more accurately
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  4930. If people keep retiring, and fewer people are born, immigration is the inevitable way to keep the country working as people retire
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  4931. There is a solution - tax unproductive assets and invest the money in productive infrastructure Wonder why they don't want to talk about that one?
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  4932.  @firstname4865  why does the tax rise have to be on low band wages? Why not capital gains? Why not fix non-dom loopholes? Lots of options to raise tax without punishing ordinary workers
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  4933. ​@Paul Houghton no point debating the shooter, she's dead
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  4934.  @Wayfarer-Sailing  I am sure some CEO we will moan that we are spending 'their' bonus on doing the job they are supposedly paid to do 😏
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  4935.  @zeeone4492  yeah, but if we stop listening to the Daily Mail, they'd lose that power over us
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  4936.  @jeffsimon9594  they certainly know their propaganda and spin!
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  4937. ​ @stevepi1 Lee Anderson's twitter feed and TV interviews are a perfect example. Wave a few non-UK flags and you're a hate march that needs locking up forever, but set fire to a town and it's merely a "legitimate concern being expressed" It's not even slightly subtle
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  4938. Did I hear Juilia just celebrate that the country has no money? 🤦‍♂️
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  4939.  @markc3258  absolutely this. You can't just compare raw inflation figures. You also have to look and see if wages are keeping up. They are in the Netherlands, they aren't in the UK
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  4940. If we are talking about where the buck stops, Johnson and the Tories are in charge right now. How's everyone's fuel bills going?
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  4941. Citation needed!
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  4942. ​ @pjmlfc05  surely to depends on the issue - do we half-privatise the NHS and call that a centrist policy?
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  4943.  @fod1855  so what happens if everyone has followed your advice, got qualifications and is now going for higher paid jobs?
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  4944.  @fod1855  I agree with your last line, but perhaps not in the way you intended!
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  4945.  @fod1855  For me, the definition of 'enough' is simple - are they paid enough to cover the bills. I want cleaners to be able to focus on the job, not be constantly distracted by worries about what they are going to eat, or if they are going to be evicted by their landlord That doesn't have to be higher wages - that can also be met by good regulation and oversight of the wider economy so housing, power and food are affordable. However, if those are not managed, then expect to need to pay people enough to cover the bills if you want them to be in a fit state to do good work
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  4946.  @matty6848  I honestly don't know enough to comment there. I want the NHS to be efficient, but I worry about cutting management and logistics too far. There is admin that needs doing, and I'd rather dedicated managers do it so medical staff can focus on medicine Is there a good independent review of NHS management needs we can refer to so we get the balance right?
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  4947. Coffee Hunt is a dangerous spoonerism just waiting to happen!
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  4948. @billB101 then you shouldn't have anything to worry about - there's no far left movement large enough to be relevant
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  4949.  @billB101  and they definitey exist 🙁
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  4950.  @in-x-orable2769  people used that very "question" as an excuse for murder, and Sunak just sided with the murderers That's pretty grim
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  4951.  @in-x-orable2769  Scarlett and Eddie thought you and Sunak were with them How you process and justify that is up to you, I'll leave you to it
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  4952. ...because he's such a diligent and effective representative for Clacton?
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  4953. That's thanks to our screwed up FPTP voting. Labour actually got more votes in both 2017 and 2019 than in 2024 Their majority in 2024 is due to Tory collapse, and shameless pandering to a tiny minority of swing voters Under a representative system, Corbyns Labour would have more seats than Starmer's Labour
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  4954. Apparently "old election results" is another thing YouTube won't let you talk about!
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  4955.  @aweescotsdog8358  don't rely on luck - spread the word 🙂
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  4956.  @johnwheeler3071  because (like Sinn Fein were) they're the propaganda, recruitment and management wing for the violence
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  4957.  @davidjupp961  I really hope they are dwindling, as the alternative isn't nice at all 🙁
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  4958. Capitalism is basically cancer
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  4959.  @O7_from_Ykt  I do hope that Russia will Putin won't though!
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  4960.  @owencrompton3713  shirt off our backs - their shirts on their backs were preserved...
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  4961.  @owencrompton3713  that's my point. The Tories never put themselves on the line, they volunteer us to take the rough while they hog the benefits 🙁
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  4962.  @alexandermason3421  the Tory press never talk about Labour's policies. If you want to know what Labour are doing you have to look outside the Tory press Sadly, so much of our news is loyal to the Tories 🙁
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  4963. ​ @jameswlong so do we need to outlaw Deliveroo etc, because they are a net drain on the economy?
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  4964. I think you have nailed it! I the unlikely event that anyone connected to the Royal Family reads this, reform and keep reforming if you want to continue as head of state 🙂
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  4965.  @Afghan31  The EU is definitely accountable to parliament. That's why I voted for which party I wanted for my MEP
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  4966.  @Afghan31  Not personally, but I can if I need to!
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  4967.  @Afghan31  No, she appears in the EU parliament, for parliamentary questions to the committee. It's a regular thing, you can watch videos of it, or even follow it live! It's not super thrilling, but serious matters rarely are
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  4968.  @Afghan31  Can I make sure I understand the question here, by asking a question. Is Boris Johnson accountable to Birmingham City Council?
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  4969.  @Afghan31  yes, because it's the legislature, not the executive. The executive is appointed by the member governments. If you didn't like our representative in the EU executive, blame the UK government that we elected!
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  4970.  @terrysmith5168  Job done then! Now we have better awareness of grooming gangs and Tory corruption. Go us!
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  4971. Why not socialism and environmentalism within the EU? Socialists still need to sell the stuff they make, and green power is easier to do when you have continent-scale resources to apply to the problem!
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  4972. Can we sack the government if there isn't enough staff to meet minimum safe levels on non strike days?
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  4973. The Tories need to go!
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  4974. ​ @KoDeMondo but do worry about it if your governmnent is spending real money in the crypto market - that's money that should be going to your community that's instead disappearing into crypto bro bank accounts 🙁
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  4975. ​ @magicanimalfish1029 Labour are disappointing, but if the alternative where you live is a Tory, what can you do? Slightly jealous of places where the Greens are starting to challenge the old two!
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  4976. ​ @PorthLlwyd well, the people have spoken, and the people put their money where their mouth is 😁
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  4977.  @nunyabidness3075  I might have a look myself when I've got time for a longer read. I am curious to know what the punishment is
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  4978. But if private investment will make money, public investment could make that same money, and start to rebuild the UK finances We won't reverse the trend of the last 40 years by doubling down on the very policy that got us into this mess!
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  4979.  @stevenpeaketrainsandstuff3682  or deficit spend and counter inflation with tax policy, especially if there are bloated and unproductive sectors that could bear more tax with minimal externalities on the wider economy
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  4980. @stevenpeaketrainsandstuff3682  tax is both for revenue, and to (dis)incentivise behaviours. If I were in charge I'd be aiming for taxes that cover both roles
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  4981. So when would have been the right time to shoot ourselves in the foot?
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  4982.  @stuartwood5448  I need more help here, how does cutting taxes help growth? Potential investors aren't investing what they already have, if they have more money, sounds like that's just more money to not invest?
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  4983. ​ @Ikaros23 and we can observe it didn't trickle down through small government laissez-faire policy, did it!
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  4984. Pretty sure Thatcher's dead, but some say she appears in the mirror if you chant her name three times...
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  4985.  @coinneachreid8971  to be fair, there is no rejoin ticket in the next election. Even the ultra-Europhile LibDems only have a roadmap that aims to rejoin a decade or more into the future We should start that process though, preferably soon!
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  4986. The media were leading the way here...
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  4987. ​ @tony_w839  Suella and Rishi claim people have said it, but the only people I have heard say it in Parliament are Rishi and Suella!
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  4988. We had an inquiry. It was seven years long! Can we get on with strengthening the law now, rather than kicking the can away for another seven years?
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  4989. He shouldn't be prosecuted, free speech is valuable, and does need to be allowed Allowed does not mean promoted, though, or protected from consequence. Clarkson is best ignored, or maybe laughed at ( but not with!)
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  4990. He's a tribute act to Senator Mccarthy in 50s America
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  4991. We need to get on that with electricity. You don't buy the existing companies, you just start building publicly owned competition! Let's put the claim that "shareholders add value" to the test and see if privately owned companies can compete in the free market 😁
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  4992.  @kevinhayes7830  it sounds very tempting, but I suspect it would be the leftwing version of Kamikwasi economics!
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  4993.  Macavity  We are taking back control! ...but we need France to do everything for us There's one for starters!
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  4994.  Macavity  So the Tories aren't saying that France is to blame? Does the UK government have a plan?
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  4995.  Macavity  You are on your own. Everyone else says it is!
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  4996. I am happy. If there was any complaint, it's that we don't quite have enough right now, there's still essential jobs left empty
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  4997. @melbeeswax  They shouldn't be exploited. They should be paid a fair proper wage for the important job they will be doing
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  4998. That's what the campaign is doing - supporting Greens and independents who have a chance of winning, and focusing money and attebtion on them to boost their chances 🙂
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  4999.  @Tvjunkieful12  is there much of a centre any more? The status quo is failing a lot of people - people failed by the current system aren't going to vote for more of the same!
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  5000. It's a universal problem in communication - different people can see different meanings behind the same label Use labels when you're confident your audience broadly takes the same meaning, and elaborate more explicitly if in doubt Doesn't help that some bad actors are actively muddying definitions and seeding confusion to propagandise and distract 🙁
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  5001. I am not sure about Dacre, but the Rothermeres (who own it) are definitely non-dom
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  5002. Truckers could organise and bargain collectively. If it works for trains, why not for trucks too?
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  5003.  @ThePierre58  Trains are doing better than many others, who are on minimum wage zero-hours contracts If they do even better, it just shows the power of sticking together and looking out for each other. I really hope this starts the ball rolling for a lot more people to get better pay!
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  5004. @David Summer  Costa Rica has trade deals with it's neighnours, and the USA deal aligns commercial and trade laws very closely with the USA I am not sure that example is the one you want to pick
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  5005. @David Summer  They are not in the EU, but almost everyone is in some kind of multinational trade bloc that is aligning and sharing commerce and trade laws. The way to be outside the EU is to join your own, local EU-like bloc
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  5006. It's changing into a world where the USA just isn't as important as it used to be
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  5007. Because a significant number of our international treaties explicitly reference international human rights law as a foundation If we break that, we void so many trade deals and other mutual support pacts
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  5008.  @qetoun  an example would be the Good Friday agreement, Human Rights section 2 It explicitly declares the ECHR as a foundation for the agreement. In turn, the ECHR asylum policy explicitly builds on the 1951 Geneva convention You can't undermine the foundation of an agreement without voiding that agreement
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  5009.  @qetoun  treaties are funny things, as there isn't a grand international court. Pragmatically, there's nothing stopping a country breaking a treaty, except that other countries are going to know what we did. Maybe there will be immediate consequences. More likely, other countries just won't believe any promise we make Can we afford to be seen as an unreliable partner?
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  5010.  @qetoun  could you go find your own country if you want to try a North Korea?
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  5011.  @charlieoscar09  "I don't want to become the North Korea of Europe" is my answer
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  5012.  @qetoun  I covered what consequences come from treaty clauses that can't come from purely domestic acts I can't tell you if you consider that "superior" or not
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  5013.  @qetoun  now you are misquoting me New laws take precedence over old laws. Superceding a treaty dependency has consequences that a purely domestic law doesn't, which is why a higher standard of care and scrutiny is required
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  5014.  @qetoun  for the definition of 'good' that aligns with 'legally valid', but not necessarily the one that aligns with 'wise'
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  5015. It needs all the private finance booting out No point looking anywhere else until that simple step is done!
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  5016.  @djpeekay25  I would be more than happy with either of those options
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  5017.  @djpeekay25  Is there any precedent for coalition governments causing concerns? Many other countries routinely have coalition government and I am not aware of that being an issue
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  5018.  @djpeekay25  if you list the concerns about Italy's economy "coalition government" wouldn't be top of the list, and only makes the list at all because it was spectacularly unstable. Labour and the LibDems are making the right noises for a sane and functional coalition, so that won't be an issue here
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  5019.  @djpeekay25  Maybe? He's not perfect, but who is. The Tory Party don't like him, so clearly he's doing something right!
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  5020. We do need to stop electing spivs and posh idiots to government!
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  5021. @davideyres955  so what was unrealistic about the junior doctors pay expectations? It's what they got paid 15 years ago, and generally fair market rate internationally
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  5022. Nothing wrong with that - it's who is doing the processing that's the issue
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  5023. China don't need to invade, they can just buy everything instead...
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  5024. @Rexii Oper  sadly we did it backwards, we left the EU and gave the Tories a massive parliamentary majority. Should have stayed in the EU and booted out the Tories!
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  5025. We just want hospitals that work. Why was Kevin banging on about communists?
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  5026. @NeonVisual  true. The coalition of institutional property portfolios and nimby boomers is our problem Not immigrants!
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  5027. Looking after people can be hard. If you can instead just take a cushy second job, phone in your MP responsibilities, and still get re-elected, why change that habit of a lifetime?
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  5028.  @stewie7338  I don't mind paying more, if people with a lot more than me also pay a lot more It just needs to be proportional - if you made a lot of money as part of this country during good times, you should be paying more when the country is in need
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  5029.  @stewie7338  our funding per-head is lower than other developed nations. There may be other problems, but we have to start by spending as much as countries with better healthcare spend
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  5030.  @stewie7338  what I am not seeing is how that's an EU problem rather than a Westminster problem. Other EU nations didn't have this happen to them
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