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Comments by "Django" (@django3422) on "BBC in crisis as sports stars step back in solidarity with Gary Lineker" video.
@lobbyskids2 How does it cheapen what happened to holocaust victims? How is it more offensive to be critical of language used by the government than it is to be the government using that language in the first place?
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@johnou.k.3780 Demonstrably not.
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How do you figure?
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Your culture sounds pretty horrendous.
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I reckon Lineker's been done dirty but that shouldn't be the issue. We should be talking about the government policy itself, as well as the conduct of those delivering it.
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@savannahglebe5165 I don't support the new bill. Its just another way in which the government has shut down routes for asylum seekers, doing nothing to combat the criminal human traffickers, the inefficient asylum claim processing system, the root cause for so much migration in the first place... This bill just appeals to the small minded nationalists who want to plug their ears and pretend the problem has gone away.
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@jo18533 Turns it it WAS difficult for you to understand. Once again, he compared the language being used to the by Germany in the 30s. He didn't say the policies and stances were identical, he didn't say the circumstances were the same.
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@jo18533 Do you make a habit of wading into debates you're completely uninformed on? You're asking for an essay and I'm stood in a bus station. This is why you should have paid attention in school.
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@jo18533 I'm not playing your game. If you want to pretend to be a moron who doesn't understand anything, you do you. If you wanna discuss issues with adults, then grow up.
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@savannahglebe5165 It does sound very 1930s Germany, that's the point. You never encountered irony before?
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@savannahglebe5165 You could have just said "no, I don't know what irony is". The whole point of Mojo's comment wasn't to be humourous. It was to show you how much your own language supported government censorship. There is hypocrisy at play here and it's all on you.
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@savannahglebe5165 How is it a matter of opinion? Either someone's language lines up with fascist rhetoric or it doesn't. And no, you don't understand irony. Mojo's comment was a mocking, logical extension of what you had just said to him. If you think it sounds fashy, you need to do some self-reflection.
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@savannahglebe5165 Two things. One, he was replying to you. Responding to what you said. Second, 1930s Germany had a fascist government. The rhetoric and language used by 1930s Germany WAS fascist rhetoric. This isn't hard...
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@savannahglebe5165 Their comment literally comes right after yours, it's a direct response to what you said... You claim to want people to engage in good faith but you're a total liar.
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@savannahglebe5165 If that's the confusion, you could have pointed it out earlier. Why didn't you? Again, it just points to you being wilfully obstinate and dishonest. Because you know you've been caught out, all you've got left is a technicality.
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@savannahglebe5165 For proposing the kind of censorship that'd go down very well in 30s Germany. Mojo's got you bang to rights. The technicality I referred to is that I mistook who you were replying to and confused them with Mojo. But it doesn't change what you said or how apt Mojo's response is. See, you don't even understand what I meant by "technicality". You seem like a profoundly dumb person trying to act like you get it but you keep proving that you don't. As for it "taking me a day" to come up with a response and that being an indicator that I need to "get a life"... did it occur to you that the reason I didn't reply for a day is because I was off doing something else... having a life? But sure, keep scoring own goals.
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His comments weren't about the holocaust. They were about language and rhetoric used by government ministers.
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He does.
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In what way?
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Except he was commenting on the similiarity of language being used. In that, he is correct. You've misunderstood this one.
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@markaxworthy2508 You're still completely missing the point, acting like the scenario has to be identical for someone to comment on language and rhetoric used. It does not.
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@markaxworthy2508 In criticising the bill itself, yes. In criticising the language used, no.
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@markaxworthy2508 Yet you can't say why.
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@markaxworthy2508 Take your own advice. Lineker specified the language and rhetoric used. He's not saying "immigrants trying to get in is just like Nazi Germany". He's saying "comments made by government ministers has parallels with those made in 1930s Germany". This has been explained to you, what part are you struggling with?
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So why are you commenting?
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I think he has read some history books, that's what allowed him to make such an accurate comparison. You should check them out yourself.
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@Septic123 Typically we use our words, but I suppose if pictures are what you're comfortable with you can work with that.
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@hetrodoxly1203 He worked for the BBC, not the government. It's one thing for a company to state that you can't slag them off publicly, it's another to say they can't be critical of government.
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How so? He gave a personal opinion on a social media platform. His comment was not trashing the BBC. So how is it rightful?
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@Ggeorgiev89 That's a weak answer.
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@Ggeorgiev89 If you're gonna use words like "rightfully", yes.
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@Ggeorgiev89 Hm. You're not.
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@Rando Alt You know IQ really isn't a measure of anything other than ability at taking IQ tests, right?
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Then that means our government DEFINITELY must go.
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Because it was apt. If you look at propaganda from the late 20s/early 30s and then listen to comments from figures like Braverman, it's impossible not to make a comparison.
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It's pretty telling of who you are, that you're more offended by Lineker criticising what the government are saying than you are by the government saying it in the first place. Actually, this whole comment gives a fairly rounded picture of you...
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Clarkson was sacked, if I recall correctly, for punching a production assistant. Lineker was sacked for criticising the government. Hardly comparable.
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Now that's a bad comparison. Icke believes in lizard people.
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@GST51 Yes, it's failing. Our government have shut down any safe and legal route in, resulting in this crisis. So he's right to be critical of the government. They've created this problem.
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@GST51 Okay, keep stuffing your fingers in your ears and creating your own narrative. You're a lost cause.
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@GST51 You're repeatedly ignoring how this crisis is incited and exacerbated by our government.
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@GST51 Who's blog did you copy+paste that from?
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@GST51 You use a lot of words to say naff all.
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@GST51 Do you also think that talking really fast and using longer words, even when being more concise would work, makes you sound more intelligent?
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How have you reached that conclusion?
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Glad you've really grasped what this is about Dave.
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@hetrodoxly1203 You know, full well. But all you little tools like to do this song and dance where you act completely ignorant of any facts or context around an issue, as if playing dumb somehow proves anything. Do you think it's funny?
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How is it holding you to ransom?
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Thanks for that useless bit of anecdotal "evidence".
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@alexwatson5507 I'm sure she'd prefer your attempt to use her murder politically.
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