Comments by "Django" (@django3422) on "Massive London march for Palestinians as far-right protest turn violent" video.

  1. I was also there and OP has the right of it. A peaceful march where various cultures and faiths were present in solidarity. The speakers at march's end consistently condemned Hamas and called for the release of hostages, in addition to an immediate stop to the bloodshed. Some speeches evoked similiarities with MLK's famous speech, in that they called for a future where Israeli and Palestinian children live side-by-side. Meanwhile, a bunch of "patriots" who don't even understand their own history or what armstice actually means turned up to pick a fight with police at the cenotaph for no reason other than their own sense of inferiority. Or maybe they just wanted a scrap. Either way, they're a joke. I've heard from a few sources that Yaxley-Lennon bailed pretty quick.
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  2.  quwipyui6519  That's a lie.
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  3.  @gridley  The history is a bit wonky there. He's known for carrying around a riding crop and often having a german shepherd with him. The riding crop was for beating the dog. He thought it impressed people. Animal rights supporter? That's stretching it. He "liked" animals. He didn't treat them well.
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  4.  @ste4282  The chant is older than Hamas, so you're wrong there. It's been used by them but that doesn't mean they own or define it.
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  5.  @harry.flashman  Yeah. A lot of people were marching for all victims of war and for an end to that suffering. How many marchs have you been on for Muslims in Sudan or Yemen?
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  6.  @greywolf7422  That's true, to a degree, in regards to the attitudes of the Allied leadership. But it can't be argued that there was a much more pressing need to act in WW2. Even if people didn't realise it at the time.
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  7.  @waefawawrgaw2835  On the peace march? I saw many gay people there. No aggressive behaviour from anyone towards them. The atmosphere was one of overwhelming solidarity.
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  8.  @colmivers  You're confusing the peace march with the football louts. Different groups entirely.
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  9.  @lordvadertheleftie9703  The peace march started at 12. The armstice silence was held at 11. It lasted for two minutes. You do the math.
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  10.  @Carmen.B247  Oh, that was yesterday's march. Yeah, numerous speakers condemned Hamas, their actions and called for the immediate release of hostages.
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  11. She stoked fear about something that never came to pass, because it was never going to. There was no truth to what she said.
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  12.  @deephouse733  Only in the sense of the freedom for mostly European heads of state to show off their new fancy armies and guns.
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  13. Who was voicing support for Hamas? They were roundly condemned at the peace march.
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  14. Which they did by fighting on Armstice day... by the way, that's what it's called in the UK. Not Veteran's Day, that's in the US. Now, "armstice" means a cessation of hostilities. The day commemorates when the fighting in WWI finally ended and young men on all sides finally stopped dying in some of the most hellish circumstances in human history. So how did these "counter demonstraters" show respect by turning up and fighting? If they'd turned up peacefully and calmly, wishing to pay their respects, they could have done so. Instead, they were looking for a scrap. It's not even reasonable to call them counter-protestors or anything of the like since they were nowhere near the peace march.
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  15. @@ghostlyjaymasterson Do you share other traits with brick walls?
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  16. I'm probably considered far-left, since I hold pretty radical views on the notion of government and authority. Saw a fair few people with similar ideas. And we was on the peace march. No violence, just a really hopeful atmosphere.
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  17. The peace march yesterday was respectful.
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  18.  @britishagent  Armstice Day is the most appropriate day to march and call for armstice. It took place after 11am service, didn't go near the cenotaph. It even passed a war memorial by Hyde Park that had wreaths arrayed, it was left entirely alone. Because it was a peace march. Meanwhile, the mob that supposedly turned up to "defend" and counter protest didn't go near the peace march and a chunk of them picked fights with the police. Fighting on Armstice Day, THAT is what's disgraceful. That's what dishonours the memory of the fallen.
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  19. People called for an armstice on Armstice Day. And you're freaking out about that. But I'm sure that penny will drop for you, eventually.
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  20.  @ste4282  What's fueled by them? The phrase? That's arguably fueled by the greater context of conflict that's been going for a long time. Hamas didn't officially adopt it till 2017.
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  21.  @jimmyb79  Hamas were formed in the late 80s. So probably not, no.
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  22.  @barbarachristina2026  There were a few I saw, it was great. Wonderful atmosphere of community and solidarity. Unity across faiths, etc.
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  23. Protecting it from what?
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  24.  @johngee4306  And there weren't any. So what were they doing?
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  25. Who is "all"? Doesn't seem like very many of you.
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  26. What's patriotic about fighting on Armstice Day?
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  27. They went and fought cops. What were they defending against?
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  28. A few points. It wasn't at the same time as Remembrance. The fash mob who turned up didn't do any defending or counter protesting. The march was for peace, it was not in support of terrorism. Important details.
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  29.  @eccehomer8182  Stop pretending you care. It's plain that you don't.
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  30.  @eccehomer8182  So you just don't have a point then.
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  31. Don't know what to tell you, there's video footage as evidence.
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  32. There's nothing patriotic about what they did. Their actions were disgraceful and disrespectful.
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  33.  @mranonymous6646  So they didn't fight with police as they forced their way through to the cenotaph? There weren't men hurling projectiles at police? No arrests made? Grow up.
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  34. They are fascist, though. Groups like Patriotic Alternative (an apt name, since they're far from patriots) have made that clear. And it's a fact that a whole bunch of them attacked the police while trying to force their way through to the cenotaph. So they could defend it against what, a load of people over a mile away? Plus, if you actually look critically at Mahyar Tousi's work, he's much like Andy Ngo. A dishonest pot-stirrer.
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  35. And in the wrong place.
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  36.  @Whopperseverywhere  Yemen was actually mentioned by several of the speakers. Which Yemen protests have you been on?
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  37. Except it wasn't immigrants causing the problems yesterday.
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  38. It doesn't "work", you're talking rubbish.
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  39.  @YTDumpsterBaby  Start with the bit where you describe the marchers as Hamas apologists, then keep going.
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  40.  @YTDumpsterBaby  No, they're not. I was there. Hamas were roundly condemned, while hundreds of Jewish people joined the march.
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  41.  @urmum3773  Dumb response.
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  42.  @urmum3773  Yup. Luffy's as anti-fascist as they come.
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  43.  @eazyrat  It's almost as if a lot of people were at the march and it was peaceful? Whereas the person you're replying to is just repeating the same word ad nauseum. Irony is alive and well, it seems.
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  44. She couldn't have been more wrong, as what happened was the opposite of what she said.
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  45. I've seen no evidence that happened. Everything I've heard from other sources indicates that the trouble with the fash bunch had been dealt with by the time the silence came around.
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  46.  @gridley  Yeah. And Hitler liked to beat his dogs because he thought it made him look cool. These two facts both exist, so what can we make of that? There is no actual evidence that he was gay. It all stems from an OSS report that is basically rubbish engineered to make Hitler look bad. Can you imagine that? That's how homophobic the US was generally at that time, that they felt the need to portray Hitler as gay to make him seem more of a wrong'un.
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  47.  @paulknowles1674  Dunno, didn't see any Hamas supporters. Saw a lot of people marching for peace. There was a police presence throughout but they didn't have to act. Then you've got alleged English "patriots" that don't even know their own history, rocking up to fight. On Armstice day. 'Cos they're a bunch of pathetic children masquerading as men. Guess they couldn't help themselves.
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  48. She said one thing would happen. The opposite transpired. She was completely wrong.
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  49. ​ @marc3981 You didn't see the peace march either, or you'd know that Hamas was repeatedly condemned.
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  50.  @ThePhobos100  Except she was insisting the problem would be with the peace march. Turns out she was completely and utterly wrong, with the only actual trouble coming from people who had gathered there as a result of her rhetoric. You might wanna take another run at this one, chap.
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  51. Where are the British values in turning up to fight people on Armstice Day?
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  52.  @Saeedxxkk  I was at the march and I'm as Anglo-Saxon as they come. So shut up.
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  53. In that case, should the anti-immigration stance not be one of immediate end to hostilities and cessation of UK aid to fuel the conflict? If you don't want people from around the world coming here, then it's in your interest to work for world peace and stability so that other nations can thrive and support their populations.
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  54.  @alacarte8635  You're being ridiculous. This sounds like the kind of sensationalism that right wing mouthpieces love to spew. Where's your pragmatism? Where's your understanding of the root causes? As for my community, I live in an apartment block that mostly homes Asian, Middle Eastern and Eastern European families. I grew up in a working class neighbourhood alongside Bangladeshi families. And I marched with people of all ethnicities yesterday.
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  55.  @alacarte8635  That's actually the opposite of what I said to you.
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  56. The opposite of what actually happened.
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  57. They're not meat shields if there's a ceasefire.
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  58. Jewish people joined the peace march yesterday.
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  59. No, you didn't. This is getting embarrassing.
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