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Comments by "Django" (@django3422) on "Hundreds of Amazon workers hold Black Friday strike" video.
@LabelsAreMeaningless Knowing even just a bit about the history of unions makes your comment laughable. Enjoy your weekend. And thank unions for it...
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It's not great. And their boss is meant to be one of the world's richest people. So what, he gets to make himself a fortune off the hard work and sweat of these workers while paying them barely over minimum.
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What does "low-skilled work" mean to you? Because I doubt you could do their job. Yet people strongly desire the services enabled and supplied by these "low skilled workers".
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There may not be other jobs where they live. Especially as Amazon has a tendency to take over and push other businesses out.
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@djm2189 It'd take you years to learn the skills needed to perform their essential role as well as they do.
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@Ausf Right. Well, as someone who's worked in the warehouse and logistics industry for over a decade now, I can tell you that simply isn't true. It can take months of going through a dozen temps to find just one person worth keeping on. It then takes two to three years of training before they're truly up to speed. Most of these workers are not unskilled, you just don't understand why their skills are essential to providing the services to which so many have been accustomed.
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@makasete30 You think? I'm not so sure. Robotic drones are complex, expensive, they need regular maintenance etc. Humans are fairly simple by comparison and can, generally speaking, be expected to take care of their own maintenance.
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Because he's a ghoul.
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@rescyn1190 You're talking utter rubbish.
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What better job? That might be their only option.
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@djm2189 If it's a revolving door that suggests the job requires skills that Amazon don't care to train people in before kicking them to the curb. To your next point, small companies don't tend to last when they've got to compete with Amazon. So you end up with more than a dozen people competing for the same job. Again, you're saying they have low level skills that the market doesn't value... except the market puts HUGE value on the service enabled by their work. Work that most people can't or won't do. Make that make sense.
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@taxicamel I've got qualifications in arboriculture and music production, plus skills from years working in the theatre and live events industry. But you have to go where the work is. Nice try, though.
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@taxicamel Again, we're talking about the industry that I currently work in and have done for years now. I actually do know about this subject, rather than yourself. Automation is already deployed in many places but here's the thing; it does make errors. It can't adapt to changing circumstances, for example. Or struggles to take physical space into account when plotting routes. And when it breaks down, which is also common, you have to wait for a tech to fix it. Humans, meanwhile, can adapt and intuit. They work around issues that cause a train wreck for automated systems... sometimes literally! Ever seen a wrapping machine gone rogue? No, workers just work better. Damn hard too, contrary to what you think. The wealth of these companies are built on the backs of these workers. So don't take them for granted.
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It's barely above minimum wage, they're doing a job that so many people don't have the skills or resilience for and they work for one of the richest companies, ever. I work in the warehouse for a fine wine retailer in southern England, I get paid a higher hourly rate and its still barely enough to support me in this economy. So shove your corporate spiel back whence it came.
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@AnimeSlaps Go work in that industry for a week.
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Where do you think all your stuff comes from? The warehouse and logistics industry is essential for our society to function. So what gives you the right to condescend to such workers?
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@otterpossum9128 You better start being nice to them, then. Because if you're right and we get cut loose without a second consideration you're gonna see an unprecedented societal breakdown. You really haven't thought that one through. Good thing you're just talking rubbish, then, isn't it?
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@Ausf You're trying to make it a semantics argument. What are skills but areas of expertise; time training to hone abilities? This issue is the value of these people to the company they work for not being reflected in the wage they're paid.
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