Comments by "Django" (@django3422) on "Hundreds of officers should be sacked for breaking the law and misconduct, says Met Police chief" video.
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@songsmith31a You use a lot of words to say nothing of substance.
It doesn't matter that the police draw on the public to fill their ranks. Most members of the public aren't violent or hateful. The issue is with the screening of recruits, of how reports of misconduct and outright law breaking are handled.
Nothing that you've said addresses that very simple fact.
No, you seem to be attributing failings to "knee-bending"... just say "woke ideology", I know that's what you mean.
So you seem less concerned with matters like Cressida Dick's complete botching of the investigation into Jean Charles de Menezes, which put numerous lives at needless risk and ended with an innocent man dead. Or the rape and murder of Sarah Everard by an officer who was known to his friends as "the rapist". Their negligence in the case of Stephen Lawrence, because he was black, or failing to take Stephen Porter's case seriously, resulting in murders of young gay men, because they were homophobic.
So don't give me this "agendas" nonsense because the police agenda has been clear for a long, long time. Maybe include that in your history lesson, might give it some value.
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@songsmith31a No, they're not one and the same.
For a start, you never mentioned "the selection process", you just said "The society that has been created supplies the members of the police service". Meaning that if we have a violent, hateful society then we get violent, hateful police officers.
My point is that since not all of society is violent and hateful, by a considerable margin, then your explanation for why we have bad police officers doesn't hold any water.
What it in fact points to is failings in the screening of new recruits, which is not the same as simply who applies.
Yes, the cases I cite are historically recent, within the last two decades. Which is why I said earlier that I'm "not sure how you can look at events of the last couple decades, at the findings of reports into police conduct, and be surprised that people tend towards not trusting police".
Are you keeping up so far, Mark? Because you seem to think we're having a different conversation. Unfortunately for you, there is a record of it that we can consult.
Officers murdered in those years are irrelevant when it comes to judging how police corruption has eroded public trust. It's not like you can cash in a murdered cop for a corrupt one. For the same reason, it doesn't matter that there is daily unreported good work done by police officers, that's their JOB. It's the bare minimum. You don't get a medal for NOT being a rapist and murderer.
Are you starting to get this now? Do you even understand what this conversation is actually about?
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