Comments by "Django" (@django3422) on "Caller: Vaush is Calling Anti-Trans Bills Genocide" video.

  1.  @Jeffxm003  You're not particularly bright, huh?
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  2. Strange, because Bill 1057 includes an interesting exception for doctors to perform unnecessary surgery on intersex minors, without any consent from said minor required. If this was about protecting children, why have that exception?
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  3. This is literally the fear mongering started by American Nazis to try and recruit more people to their cause. Is it one you identify with?
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  4.  @neglectfulsausage7689  Ah, so its a guilt complex projecting as an irrational paranoia. Got it.
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  5.  @dragonslair951167  Your MAGA example is relevant but lacks context. It came after 8 years of them acting objectively antidemocratically. Unless you can show the common person evidence of what THEY perceive as genocide occurring against LGBT folk, then using that language might not do any favours. And I reject the notion that it's an either-or situation.
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  6.  @jimbob498  Sorry, where was your own compelling argument? And I gotta agree with the other person, you don't seem too clear on what "deflection" means. Nor do I think you've ever actually seen a spaghetti western...
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  7.  @jimbob498  Right, because you're acting really grown-up. Rather than deflecting, correct use of the term, why not present an actual counter-argument?
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  8.  @jimbob498  No, you haven't.
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  9.  @bobbun4369  What do you think Tucker meant by that statement?
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  10.  @jimbob498  How would that tell me what Bob Bun thinks Tucker meant?
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  11.  @jimbob498  You don't read too good, huh? If you'd pay attention and switch your brain on, you'd see that my question to Bob Bun was what THEY think Tucker meant. I know what Tucker said, I want to know how Mr Bun interpreted it. Do keep up.
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  12.  @ricardocabeza6006  Why shouldn't they be allowed to write children's books?
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  13.  @ricardocabeza6006  There's no misunderstanding, you can't play coy around your own implications and not expect to get called out for being cowardly and disingenuous. You're over there saying "a drag queen shouldn't be writing kids books". Why, because a lot of drag shows are 18+ (which doesn't mean its inherently sexualised, btw)?
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  14.  @jo9932  Are white people being targeted and attacked for their whiteness, by people who have been radicalised by anti-white rhetoric?
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  15.  @jo9932  You're gonna have to be more specific than just naming a city.
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  16.  @neglectfulsausage7689  Unattributed quotes can't be verified and are worthless. You sure you aren't just a Louie Beam fanboy?
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  17.  @neglectfulsausage7689  Yes, unattributed. In that you've waited till this long to even name what you're citing. And now it's just "read the article". What article? You just sound like a poundshop Neo-Nazi.
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  18. ... you know David is Jewish, right?
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  19.  @gravelmonarch  "All the time", huh? Nah. It happened, sure, humans are human, but to say it happened all the time and to insinuate that of someone, particularly of Jewish heritage... that's pretty sick minded.
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  20.  @gravelmonarch  Because the name Django didn't originate with a Tarantino exploitation flick or even with a series of spaghetti western movies. Its a Romani name. You're so quick to throw sick insinuations that do little other than to highlight your ignorance and push people away.
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  21. This is more or less where I'm landing. Trans people are being set up as the "other" required by fascism, the enemy to rally people against. Whether or not you agree that what's happening right now qualifies as genocide, you're a liar or a fool if you deny that isn't exactly what a lot of anti-trans folk want.
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  22.  @ricardocabeza6006  Yes. You and your ilk. Trying to argue that trans people aren't being "othered" by right wing figures is pretty loony when you're here literally dehumanising them by arguing against their equal rights and treatment both under law and by their society in general.
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  23.  @nateswan9527  Trans people used to hide their identities, so their suicides wouldn't have been attributed as such.
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  24.  @bobbun4369  Clearly you are not familiar with the many, many fascist purges throughout human history. Which is surprising 'cos there's a really famous one that took place less than a hundred years ago.
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  25.  @ricardocabeza6006  It's certainly discrimination, when you look at how focused it is specifically against trans people.
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  26.  @ricardocabeza6006  I'm not sure anyone identifies as a tattoo...
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  27.  @jimbob498  Everyone knows that story. Tell me how it's relevant.
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  28.  @ricardocabeza6006  So what you've got there is small-minded people being judgemental of those with tattoos, while there's an age bar in place largely to stop schoolkids going and getting swearwords tattooed onto themselves but also to stop parents of minors trying to sue the artists. You're trying to compare that to people refusing an individual's right to identify as the person they feel that they are. You've still got the small-minded judgemental people but who is the age bar protecting? The trans person?
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  29.  @ricardocabeza6006  You can enlist in the army at 17. You do know that none of the life-altering treatments or surgeries can begin till they're 18, right?
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  30.  @ricardocabeza6006  That might be a valid question if the only matter being debated was an age bar on life altering procedures. Keep up.
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  31.  @jimbob498  Come back when you've spent some time actually learning about what fascism is, how it operates and the environment it both requires and creates. Because regardless of what you may have been told as a little kid, your ignorance is not as valid as someone else's knowledge.
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  32.  @bobbun4369  My definition is informed by the works of men like Umberto Eco and Robert Evans. How about you?
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  33.  @bobbun4369  Do you think Umberto Eco is made up? Can't help but notice that the one repeatedly trying to duck or deflect is you. So what's your excuse for not addressing confrontation?
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  34.  @bobbun4369  Is this your go-to tactic whenever you feel out of your depth?
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  35.  @bobbun4369  Point out the bits that you're having trouble with, I'll walk you through it.
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  36.  @bobbun4369  I did start there. The spelling, grammar and syntax are all fine. The comment is well within the context of the topic. So if you're truly having difficulty with it, then you're gonna have to be more specific about which bit is giving you issues.
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  37.  @bobbun4369  I know you can read. You're really just proving my allegation; when challenged directly you wilt, throwing out naff insults and denials in order to avoid addressing the argument. You can't even come up with something specific to try and undermine my comment on.
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  38.  @bobbun4369  I "came" a comment? Honestly, Bob, I don't want anything from you. My only thought regarding you, at this point, is a simple question; is he genuinely this thick or does he play dumb 'cos he thinks its an effective counter? Then I realised that whatever the answer is, it's the former.
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  39.  @bobbun4369  You're stupid anyway, pretending not to understand someone in an attempt to challenge them is just tragic.
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  40.  @dragonslair951167  I think the point they're trying to make is that the choice of language can allow the topic to be sidetracked, as the argument becomes more a matter of semantics. How true that is in the wider world, I don't know. But looking at the comments here, it's certainly the tactic being used.
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  41.  @dragonslair951167  We both know it actually takes a lot more than that. Especially since all those individuals, while awful people, are good at picking their words carefully to obfuscate and mislead.
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  42.  @dragonslair951167  But there aren't just two points of view.
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  43.  @dragonslair951167  It's not a matter of what you or I would call it. It's a matter of what people who consider themselves as "neutral" would call it. Those are the people you need to convince. Like I said before, it's not an either-or situation. There's not just two points of view, there isn't simply "your side" and "their side".
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  44.  @dragonslair951167  Right. You're an idealist. Well, good luck.
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  45.  @dragonslair951167  They call that "preaching to the converted".
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  46.  @dragonslair951167  So you've identified that the far right was won victories by appealing to people previously not engaged with their politics... but you think we can only win by appealing to minority groups? Look, I'm not trying to have a go. I just think you're not looking at the full picture.
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  47.  @dragonslair951167  Great. Its not all about you, either. Saying "I didn't need X" is just a brag, it doesn't help us dealing with the apathetic majority. I give up, you don't seem to be getting it or I'm just not saying it right. Check out Behind The Bastards.
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  48.  @dragonslair951167  It's more that I can't argue with this degree of self-impressed foolishness. See, now I am having a go. Because the crux of your last argument was essentially "if it's good enough for me". Pride doesn't help anyone. You're not helping anyone.
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  49.  @ricardocabeza6006  House Bill 1057
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  50.  @ricardocabeza6006  Pretty sure it puts the age restriction at 18. It also includes an exception that allows for doctors to perform unnecessary surgery on intersex minors without their consent. So why can others make that decision for an intersex child, potentially an infant, but a 17 year old isn't allowed to decide something for themselves? Sounds like it's about targeting trans folk, rather than protecting children.
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