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Comments by "Django" (@django3422) on "The Scam of Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, Liver King, Etc" video.

@bronz9019 Professional fighter, huh. Good for him. And what, you think everyone else in that prison is a daisy?
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@bronz9019 You're funny, you know that? Not in a haha sense, in a "that's tragic that you believe that" sense.
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You want heroes, don't look to celebrities. Look to firefighters, paramedics, animal rescue teams, care workers, disaster relief workers... people actually doing something of use.
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@ikilledthemoon I'm amazed that you've somehow concluded that women are responsible for patriarchal authority structures.
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@bronz9019 Before I can answer that I have two questions that need answering, this hypothetical needs context. First question, what's he actually doing in the street, is he just walking along or what? Second question, are you actually a child to ask such a petty, schoolyard thing?
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@bronz9019 You gave me clarification before I asked for it? That's impressive, didn't realise you had time manipulation powers. You're saying I'm childish but your whole line is "Don't criticise Tate, he'd beat you in a fight". That's the argument of a literal child. Are you a literal child?
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@bronz9019 I'll tell you now, if he's not actually harassing or harming anyone when I see him then of course not. 'Cos I'm not some angry pubescent tool who needs to prove myself to the big boys. And because I firmly believe in fighting in defense of people. But why won't you answer straight questions, what are you so scared of?
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@jeffp3999 Yeah, okay. People who walk into fires to save peoples lives shouldn't be regarded as heroic by a society.
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@jeffp3999 Yes and I can confidently say that, at least in the case of forestry, that job is made so dangerous in large part by humans doing dumb things. Statistics don't tell the whole story.
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@ikilledthemoon What do you actually think the terms "patriarchy" and "matriarchy" mean?
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@ikilledthemoon No, it exists to keep a certain group of people in power. Where are you getting this idea from?
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@ikilledthemoon You do understand that the existence of heavily patriarchal societies that were very oppressive of women long outdated the modern idea of women in the workplace... right?
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@mrdamage690 So your defence of his comment is that it was a joke, or it wasn't and its still fine 'cos that's his choice. Pretty poor defence.
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@torontoenvironment9899 Did he actually say that? I can't see his comment but damn... at this point all these little betas could genuinely be satirists and I wouldn't be surprised, a team of comedy writers couldn't come up with anything this mental AND cringe.
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Peterson presents himself as a champion of free speech, but there's several known cases of him trying to shut down people's free speech when he doesn't like what's being said. He's a grifter.
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@ikilledthemoon Everything you just said is total nonsense and is completely detached from any understanding of societal history. For example, are you even aware that the notion of a women being able to choose her own romantic partner is a relatively new one?
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@ikilledthemoon Who's telling you all this? Is this what you're getting from Tate or someone else? Genuine question, I want to know where you get this insane victim blaming mentality from.
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Better yet, listen to women when they talk about what they want from a partner.
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@lucciangel6260 That's a very strange angle to take...
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So which idiot did you let fill your head? Peterson or one of the other hacks?
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@ikilledthemoon What happened to you that made you like this?
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@mrdamage690 Ah, the old "only Americans understand freedom" nonsense. Give it up, Americans have less personal freedom of choice than a lot of other countries. And trying to stick with this "he's joking" angle is really weak when you said yourself he might not be joking but who cares if he is. If we go by your explanation, he's either trying to be funny or he's just said something really horrible about people but that's okay because America. Is that about the gist of it?
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So what are you actually trying to say?
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@Johnyjohn-mc-jonjon You really need to work on better insults. How can someone write if they can't read, huh? Next time, try something that might stand up to a gentle breeze.
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@Johnyjohn-mc-jonjon Yeah, it was a rhetorical device used to show that OP waffled on and on without making a meaningful statement. You're the only person who didn't get that. So tell me again, who is actually stupid?
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@Johnyjohn-mc-jonjon No-one else stopped to comment so yes, you're the only person. And yes, rhetorical devices can be in text form too. Telling someone they're "actually stupid" while repeatedly displaying your ignorance is not a good look. Now since he made multiple meaningful statements, why don't you break one or two down for me?
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@Johnyjohn-mc-jonjon If I can't read, how am I managing to respond to you? If I'm ignorant, please specify what it actually is that I'm ignorant of. And if you're only gonna chicken out like a coward when someone calls your bluff, don't waste my time.
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He misrepresents his values and beliefs for profit. He's a grifter, literally a scammer. He manufactures controversy to generate publicity for upcoming projects. Mostly, though, it's his whole "free speech" angle. He claims to champion it, then threatens people with legal action for criticizing him, even bordered on "threatening" violence in response to a bad book review. It's no surprise that he turned out to be so vocally anti-trans, despite stating earlier in his career that he respects them as human beings. So much for being a free-speech loving, individual-rights protecting warrior...
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@michaeldallas-yf4gj I'm not a woman. Falling at the first hurdle, try again.
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Is that why Peterson's ideology is so regressive?
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Just so you know, the term "cultural marxism" was coined by the Nazis are used as propaganda in their purges. So when Peterson talks about cultural marxism, he's perpetuating that same notion.
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What does Pakman's self-awareness have to do with his comments on these people and their videos?
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@tacochub4353 You didn't answer the question.
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@tacochub4353 I've read it multiple times but the sentence structure makes your point vague and unclear.
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Erm... we do see what is going on in the world. Late stage capitalism is wrecking us. Ever growing divide between wealthy elites and average citizens, privatisation of public services leading to societal decline, corruption in politics draining public coffers dry... And view counts really aren't any indication of validity. It's no revelation that there's hundreds of thousands of morons ready to lap up easy platitudes.
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Why are you scared of drag queens?
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@NovaGeo Oh, terrified. But that makes more sense than you being scared of guys in dresses.
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@Johnyjohn-mc-jonjon Yeah? What do you know?
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@NovaGeo If you're gonna throw that kind of accusation around, then speak plainly. Don't be a snivelling coward all your life.
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@NovaGeo Yeah, so scared. Terrified, in fact. And we both know the only reason that you feel confident throwing your weight around is because of the online disconnect. It's so pathetically transparent. You're acting like a child. And that's the thing about all you little Tate and Peterson fans, all the incels... you're just angry, scared little boys petulantly demanding that the world treats you like men. The irony...
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@Johnyjohn-mc-jonjon You read nearly every post in the last 2 days to know that, not my fault you just don't have as much of value to say. Drag queens are literally just blokes in dresses, it's like going to the panto and there's the dame. It's one of the most harmless, innocent things you'll see and I don't know why you think the first thing a drag queen is gonna do around kids is molest them or indoctrinate them. If that's really what you're so worried about, you should direct your attentions to the Catholic church. Given my comments have been along the lines of "stop disrespecting women", you must be a pretty disgusting individual yourself if you think that makes someone sound deranged. Tell me, are you desparately lonely and lashing out or does some poor woman have to endure your company?
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@Johnyjohn-mc-jonjon What are they actually doing that's evil? What do you think drag queens are doing to kids?
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Do you know what that word means?
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Objective truth? Like when Tate says women need to "bear some responsibility" if they're the victim of rape, that's an objective truth to you?
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@v00d00child187 It was a tweet where he said "If you put yourself in a position to be raped, you must bare some responsibility." He wasn't being ironic, he thought he was making some edgy comment about women deserving it, prefacing it with "Women have been exchanging sex for opportunity for a very long time". So he's barely defining a very broad scenario and suggesting that the woman then deserves it. Let's be clear, there's no situation in which a rape is deserved or that the victim bares some responsibility. That lies entirely with the individual who consciously decides to commit a vile crime against someone. You talked of people's "crippled and disgusting worldview" but you're championing this guy? Make that make sense.
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@v00d00child187 So you've gone from saying he speaks "objective truth" to "I don't agree with everything he says". Then you go on to clutch at straws in an effort to justify what he said. There aren't any circumstances where a rape victim is at all responsible for what happens to them. And what does women exchanging opportunity for sex even mean? It's certainly not a fact since you cannot summarise 50% of humanity so lazily.
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@v00d00child187 If it's a fact then provide evidence and explain why, in each case, the woman is responsible for a man deciding to commit the crime of rape.
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@v00d00child187 Why did you delete your previous comment? The one about prostitution? 'Cos Tate is not talking about sex workers. He said exchange "opportunity", prostitution is a financial transaction where both parties are clear on who's getting what. So Tate is obviously trying to suggest manipulation on the part of women. You stated that this is a fact, if it's a fact then there's evidence. If you're going to make such a gross, lazy generalisation of roughly half the world's population, you should really have evidence to support it. And asking people personal stuff like that? Creepy and gross. Stop being creepy and gross.
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@v00d00child187 Yeah, I asked you to give me evidence that supports your "facts". You didn't, you just rambled on about other nonsense. Alphas aren't even something that exists among wild animals. Fine that most people don't know that but if you're gonna push the ideology, you should know these things. You don't know anything. You're pretty pointless.
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@ikilledthemoon That's exactly what it means. It was only in the last century that so-called "advanced" nations gave women the vote! Women used to be traded around like a commodity by their fathers. What you're saying is utterly ridiculous. Who told you all this nonsense? Where are you learning such blatant falsehoods?
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@ikilledthemoon I don't believe that little conversation happened. It reads like a lie written by a child. And since your arguments so far all read like lies written by a child... you get my point. Not only do you have a really weird, backwards understand of human social history, you're suggesting that "women in general" are all engaged actively in some conspiracy to manipulate men. That's laughable. I don't think Tate is in control of anything other than your tiny mind.
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@ikilledthemoon My previous comment stands.
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@ikilledthemoon That's a fact, is it? You can back that up with evidence?
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@pedroj234 So edgy...
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@pedroj234 Fascinating.
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@jeffp3999 You seem to have a weird metric for heroic action. Which shouldn't surprise me, I suppose, given the nature of this comment section...
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@jeffp3999 Based on risk statistics. When a arborist dies, it's usually 'cos they made a mistake and did something unwise. When a firefighter dies, it's usually 'cos they were in a burning building trying to get civilians out.
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@JoseVargas-fc4cz How do you think cars work?
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@jeffp3999 Because we've been so technically accurate so far. I worked in forestry, so I know what goes wrong and what leads to those mistakes. What it comes down to is that I'm venerating people based on the risk vs motive vs outcome, you're just looking at risk stats. No, I'm not getting you a link. It's Sunday morning and this conversation isn't worth it.
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@Competitive_Antagonist Who said anything about following anyone? Considering someone a hero of your society doesn't involve any following.
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Peterson is a fraud. He claims to be a free speech champion and he's suckered a lot of basic people into believing him, but he's just as petty when it comes to criticism as those he himself criticises, he's just as willing to try and silence people who spread a message he doesn't agree with. This is a guy who's advocated for controlling what people are able to learn, he's just as keen to "program" people into thinking the same way as he does. He's not even profound. His entire philosophy boils down to "I don't like change". He's just a scared little man-child flailing wildly against things outside of his narrow, Christian white male worldview. And it's pathetic when people jump up to defend him as anything more than that.
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Because there's nothing more manly than being scared of trans people.
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I've not seen him display evidence of those three traits. In fact, I've seen evidence of him spreading hateful rhetoric, demonstrating a lack of intellectualism and trying to debate someone on a topic he was woefully ignorant of.
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Peterson does wade into the political though. He frequently criticises communism and Marxism, despite demonstrating that he's not very well studied on the topics, while promoting the values of capitalism.
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@Johnyjohn-mc-jonjon It's a type of human. Any other dumb comments or you done now?
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Scared of gay men, huh?
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He's a free speech grifter, he doesn't actually believe in the values he promotes as he has demonstrated in the past. Check out Robert Evan's Behind The Bastards on free speech grifters, its an interesting listen.
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@Johnyjohn-mc-jonjon "You people"? How interesting, do elaborate.
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"Debate me, bro"
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But is Jordan Peterson not a "free speech" champion? If that is true and you support that value, saying that Pakman is dangerous and should be taken down, doesn't that fly in the face of free speech?
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@byronperry8309 So are you saying you don't listen to Peterson or any of the other hacks?
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What are you told to lie about?
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@mattryan5393 Men can be trans women. Is that what you're confused about?
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@mattryan5393 I think you are because what I actually said was that men can be trans women. They literally can, to say otherwise denies our scientific and social understanding of gender, as well as plain reality.
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@mattryan5393 Once again, as I said, a man can be a trans woman. Can you see that word, "trans"? That's the key word. Also, I suggest going and sharing your opinion with an actual biologist. Let me know how long they laugh at you for. Sure, you have a right to your opinion. But not all opinions are equal. You're basing yours on a child's understanding of biology, so it's not worth much.
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@mrdamage690 You don't even have free health care, women are having bodily autonomy rights taken away from them, conservatives are crying about trans people having rights, you've got one of, if not THE, biggest prison population in the world. Tell me again how free you are. Or don't, honestly that'd be fine too. You've crossed over from being funny to just tragic.
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