Comments by "Audittheauditors2" (@Democracyexposed) on "Why simply being Taiwanese could lead to war | DW News" video.

The title is misleading. The problem isn't calling ourselves Taiwanese. The problem is how us Taiwanese define the word Taiwan. The official name of our country isn't "Taiwan" it's the "ROC." The PRC and the ROC has a "Governing Relations Act between the People of the Taiwan Area and the Mainland Area." This means our relationship officially is not "country vs country." It all had to do with the US (sadly again) switching recognition from one Chinese government to another. The US playing games as usual to protect their own interests. The lady in the video also made false comments about how we don't consider ourselves as Chinese in the 70s. During the Tiananmen incident in 89, we clearly reached out to our compatriots on the mainland to show our support in solidarity. We never refused to acknowledge our Chinese roots until post 2000s. We just want to see a different China. One that is closer to our values in the ROC. The current tension is due to the US strategy of containing the rise of the PRC using the ROC as a pawn and canon fodder. I do not accept the Ukraine model for the ROC.
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Tell that to the native Indians. 🤣🤣
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@yentingchen You have to understand there are two issues at play. One is our identity as a ROC citizen. Second, is how the US plays on our division. When the US was friendly with the PRC, they did not care about the ROC's identity. What's changed? United States Policy Toward Formosa and the Pescadores [ Washington ,] July 6, 1949. It would now seem clear that the only reasonably sure chance of denying Formosa and the Pescadores to the Communists and insulating the islands from mainland authority would lie in the removal of the present Nationalist administrators from the islands and in the establishment of a provisional international or U.S. regime which would invoke the principle of self-determination for the islanders and would eventually, prior to a Japanese peace settlement, conduct a plebiscite to determine the ultimate disposition of Formosa and the Pescadores. Formosan separatism is the only concept which has sufficient grass-roots appeal to resist communism. Clearly, us ROC is only used as a chesspiece between two superpowers. The world isn't suppoting the ROC. Instead, the world is using Formosan separatism as their resource to contain the PRC. Do you want to be another proxy like Ukraine?
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@yentingchen People from Canton call themselves Cantonese the same way people from Taiwan (one myself) call ourselves Taiwanese. It does not conflict with our Chinese ethnicity. Our history does not change the fact today we still celebrate our nationaly holidy that has nothing to do with the Taiwan island itself. You can cherish our identity within the ROC but to consider yourself as a non-Chinese is a bit far fetched.
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@yentingchen I am going to guess you are seeing this declassified document for the very first time.
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@yentingchen Is there a reason why you are not replying to the US grand strategy towards Formosa/Taiwan? Or are you also an American?
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@yentingchen I am asking you why you chose to stay silent about something the US publically claimed they do not support yet planned for in previously classified documents. I am a ROC patriot first and can care less about explaining to you who you are. I only state facts.
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@ResearchFirst-z7j That just means you don't understand China. Which China are you talking about? Why is our airline in "Taiwan" in 2024 called "China Airline" ? You just made an assumption that our country is not called China. Check our green passport page 2 and tell me what our nationaity states. Hint hint* NOT Taiwan. You do realize you can't have the cake and eat it too right?
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@ResearchFirst-z7j That is because you don't understand China. Which China? Why is our airline in Taiwan in 2024 called "China Airline" ? Check our green passport page 2 and what does our nationality say? Hint hint* not Taiwan. You can't have it both ways. You don't need internationally recognized treaties, policies or UN resolutions when Taiwan already voluntarily admits it is China.
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@ResearchFirst-z7j You don't need internationally recognized treaties, policies or UN resolutions, when Taiwan already voluntarily admits officially it is China. Your narrative is the typical Western narrative that simply does not make any logic.
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@ResearchFirst-z7j You know your Western talking points sound very childish when you don't know all the facts right?
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@ResearchFirst-z7j That's what I thought. You can't answer a single question I ask and can only deflect and redirect. Cherry-picking certain events that do not take the whole history of China into context might work for the majority who don't understand cross-strait relations but not this guy. I wonder how you got the name ResearchFirst.
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@yentingchen I am also aware, whenever facts are presented about the US, all of a sudden the ability for ROC citizens to reason goes out the door. Instead, they simply go quiet.
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@yentingchen Haven't described? Let me spell it out for you again. "Formosan separatism is the only concept which has sufficient grass-roots appeal to resist communism" - United States Policy Toward Formosa and the Pescadores. Why is the US saying repeatedly saying that they "do not support Taiwan indpendence" when they clearly have been trying to get the ROC to turn on the PRC by invoking "Formosan separatism" going against their own policies?
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@CCPH8tr Even if you are a chess piece, at least position yourself as a queen that can travel in all directions and not a pawn that can only march in one direction. We all know most of the time the odds of the pawn surviving the game is slim to none. It's called leverage. The ROC should never commit 100% to either side because that's how you end up negotiating from a position of weakness.
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@CCPH8tr What are you talking about? Since when did the US ever made comments about encouraging Taiwan to be independent? US is the one that is repeating its "do not support Taiwan independence" rhetoric.
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@CCPH8tr .....so whose problem was that? The ROC kept changing its mind while having a having the cake and eat it too mindset is supposed to help with our situation? Refusing to acknowledge CKS' contribution fending off the PLA yet they celebrate a national holiday which has nothing to do with the Taiwan island? Do you realize how ridiculous it is to blame all of our own issues on the PRC?
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@DSan-kl2yc Says who? You? 🤣
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@ResearchFirst-z7j Your logic: Don't know the facts so you invent alternative narrative. 🤣
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@ResearchFirst-z7j You don't have a ROC passport yet you pretend like you know what you are talking about. How funny.
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@ResearchFirst-z7j The fact is, no internationally recognized treaties, policies or UN resolutions are needed when our passport says we are China. However, since you are not a ROC passport holder, I forgive your ignorace.
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@ResearchFirst-z7j You are welcome to dream and make up imaginary facts though.
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@CCPH8tr Before you speak, make sure you get your facts right. It has Taiwan on it "too" ? LOL Do you even know how it got on there and what it means? I don't pretend like you do. I know my facts. Do you? Can you explain? I think I know the answer already.
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@rollingdownfalling Western legacy media is very powerful and convincing. Until you learn the facts.
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@CCPH8tr Wrong. Even in a chess game, you always want to position yourself as a queen that can move freely in all directions instead of a pawn that can only march in a single direction. Stop behaving like a victim and take charge of your own future. The US is protecting their own national security interest, not ROC democracy. Putting all of your eggs in one basket is suicide.
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@CCPH8tr So you blame those in the ROC who refuse to recognize their own nationality on the CCP as well? 🤣🤣🤣 Are you like a low level bot or something?
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@DSan-kl2yc I said nothing. I quoted the words from US officials. You are barking at the wrong tree, whoever you are.
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@CCPH8tr Then I just proved you are full of it because I am a ROC passport holder. 😂
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