Comments by "Chef Chaudard" (@chefchaudard3580) on "TLDR News EU"
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"Everyone gets to vote and the majority wins, that's democracy.” Agreed. This is not the case in the EU at the moment. If 2 countries don't follow the rules they agreed on with their 25 partners, majority does not win. I agree with you that this should be enforced.
"What the E.U is trying to do is give power to the council so that they can make a rule, it automatically becomes law and if anyone disagrees with it they get cut off from funding - that's a dictatorship.“
No, EU is a union. When 2 countries do not play by the rules they agreed on, they must face the consequences. This is not "dictatorship", this is just commonsense.
“You have to be really brainwashed to give that sort of power to unelected bureaucrats and be fine with it.” You just show that you don’t know how EU works.
“….if you think the E.U is so democratic when did you vote for Merkel or Verhofstad to be in?” Germans voted for Merkel. Belgians voted for Verhofstad. Like, in your country, you don't vote for the MPs of other constituencies but for the one of yours, I voted for MEPs and president of my country.
“When did you get to vote for Von der Leyen?” When did you vote for Boris Johnson? I voted for my country’s MEPs and President, who voted for Von der Leyen, like your MPs vote for your Prime Minister and not you directly. This is called “indirect elections”, not “dictatorship”.
“In my case if our government tries to put something in place we don't like, as normal citizens we can petition it and have it removed before its even become law or even if it has been made one and also when someone messes up we can vote them out which keeps the others in line.“ Same for the EU. There are just more people involved, like in the USA or India.
“You enjoy your enslavement and enjoy your "mutual debt" and "refugee quotas"... Er I mean "solidarity".”
Enjoy the consequences of the Brexit!
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@77kromah I agree. The Only way I see is to build an ad hoc European force, composed from national armies, for limited, but agreed upon, missions.
The best example is the recent proposition for a 5000 men strong european force who could have covered retreat of Europeans from Afghanistan.
We had to rely on US forces to cover the operation, every European country sending a limited number of transport aircrafts and men.
If the US were not there, our people would still be in Afghanistan.
If we could build a force composed of predetermined national armies forces, give some power to the European presidency to commit it and negotiate for us, without having to ask to every European country first, for a well defined, limited number of predetermined missions, iit could be the core for an European force.
We could later add missions, commit larger forces, give more power to the EU presidency.
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@zulupox once again, you may be right! Your explanation has some flaws, however. People were staying in the Alps, precisely where... Switzerland is! A country that was not hit as badly as Sweden, despite it having a border with Italy.
I have personnally few doubts that the variety of infection rates we have in the different countries is also due, among other causes, to the reation of local authorities and the precautions taken.
Nothing obvious shows why Sweden was so badly hit, except for the fact that it did not enforce a lockdown. Some rates can be explained by geography, travels, people concentrations, sure. But, for Sweden, nothing special.
Basic logic is that disease spreading rate is based on simple factors. One of them, the most obvious, is the number of people that one sick person can meet in a day. Lockdown is an obvious answer, and a flawless one: if you meet nobody, you cannot be infected or spread the disease. Of course, other ways may work as well, like social distancing, and masks, and syou name it. Whatever, lockdown, being radical, must have had some effect and reflect in the resulting rates somehow. and Sweden having not enforce lockdown and having bad results, it is likely that there is a connection between the two. It may not be the case, or it may be insignificant, but, at first glance, it is likely, as, again, there was nothing special with Sweden compared to other comparable countries.
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@iancredible- You call others "morons", "brainwashed", "slaves" and display once again that you know nothing of how EU works, its institutions.
You CAN call a petition in the EU. And, even if you could not, it would not make of the EU a dictaturship. And yes, if a nationalistic government, even democratically elected, is not allowed to break the treaties that bind EU countries.
So far, you just spout your heinous propaganda and display your ignorance.
EU is a tyranny because… reasons. And everybody who does not agree with you is dumb, because they don’t take your word for it and – worst! – they dare tell you that you are wrong, and why.
“brainwashed” is what comes to mind…
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@iancredible- no evidence, just your baseless assertions.
For you majority in UK = good = democracy , majority in the EU = bad = tyranny. When UK bullies Scotland, that's democracy. When EU bullies Hungary, its tyranny.
In your mind, EU should not have any power, because... reasons.
OK, that's your feeling, your guts, no reasoning. We'll go nowhere, I cannot argue with that. You cannot understand what the EU is, what is all about.
Have a nice day.
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