Comments by "Chef Chaudard" (@chefchaudard3580) on "Military History not Visualized"
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@kresbes7240 Which 'leaks' are you talking about?
Milley openly said that this bloody war will end with negociations... with a "free, sovereign and independant Ukraine "
https://youtu.be/hkYDNM_0ySE
So, not at any cost, and he does not urge Ukraine to negociate, he is talking to Russia.
He also stated that it will be very difficult for Ukraine to recover its territories militarily THIS YEAR. He never said that they will never do it.
So Vad implying that Milley says that Ukraine should negociate now as there is no way they can win this war, is just a lie. Which is the same lie you'll find on prorussian channels.
, (like McGregor, I suppose, i don't follow him : we have our own Kremlin voices in French telling the very same lies). Vad twists Milley declaration so he does not have to acknowledge the elephant in the room : russia does not want to negociate. Milley point is to convince russians that this war is costly and pointless, and that negociating now is the best solution, and this will be possible if they accept a free Ukraine.
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@kresbes7240 "if it smells like a prorussian, if it tastes like a prorussien, if it feels like a prorussian, then it is a prorussian"
You can find in Vad's discourse all the talking points of russian propaganda : escalation up to a war with NATO, ending in a nuclear war, the russian army is too strong, losses are too high and useless, ukraine should surrender. And even the lie direct from the Kremlin, that "Gal Milley called for negociations and said that ukraine cannot free its territories".
So, yes following Russian narratives, their alternate reality, makes of you a prorussian.
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@gandydancer9710 Vad is clearly twisting what Gal Milley actually said
https://youtu.be/IYscbQYS3Bg
It is obvious Vad uses the prorussian interpretation of this discourse, that is "Milley urges the Ukrainian to surrender, because there is no way they can win".
He adds the usual prorussian narrative, escalation will lead to NATO fighting in Ukraine, then nuclear war, helping Ukraine will only cause more suffering, Russia is winning, we don't care if Ukraine looses, as long as nato protects us, Ukraine must not be part of NATO...
This is obvious BS. He simply refuses to acknowlege that RUSSIA DOES NOT WANT TO NEGOCIATE. Russia wants Ukraine to surrender. As long as Russia does not give up on many points, there will be war, as it is absolutely unacceptable.
Vad is not only a defeatist, in the line of british "appeasers" before WWII, to whom Winston Churchill said "you were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war.'”, he is also relaying the lies of russian propaganda.
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