Youtube hearted comments of Daniel Bradford (@Falconlibrary).
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I have a confession: I was a simp in my marriage. My wife ran around with her girlfriends ("it's just the girls!"), cooked maybe three meals for me in thirteen years (I can remember each one), and told me on many occasions I was boring. Spent every cent I earned, kept 100% of the money she earned, and kept us in constant debt (which was very stressful for me). I didn't wake up until she walked out after I lost my job and jumped right into some dude's bed, a guy she'd been warming up for a few months.
That's when I got myself straight, in my mid-thirties. Didn't have channels like this back then. If only I had, I'd have never married her, and maybe wouldn't have married at all. She did me the biggest favor by abandoning me because I was forced to see her and ME for who we really were.
Young dudes, listen to the Romanian. Take the red pill. The sooner, the better.
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I feel your frustration. Not so long ago, that would've been MY rant.
When I first moved to LA in the 1990s, I got an apartment 1.4 miles from work, thinking it'd be an easy drive.
On a good day, it took me 45 minutes each way. Seven, eight changes of a traffic light before I could get through an intersection.
I got a bike and made the trip in under 10 minutes, but angry/careless motorists hit me three times, nearly killing me the third time (one was carelessness, the other two clearly intended to hit me, the third one being a woman in a Range Rover who tried to slam me into a tree and actually bent the bike frame in half. LAPD didn't ticket her).
Public transportation? A bus ride meant six changes of buses and the trip took me nearly two hours.
After that, I walked, and every day, the same LAPD patrol partners stopped me. I asked them why they stopped me every day and one cop said "Because you're walking and that's a suspicious activity. Don't you own a car?"
Miami has a long way to go to equal or exceed that level of crazy.
My last five years there, I lived in Beverly Hills and never went anywhere. Groceries = Instacart, car stayed in the garage, walked to work (the BHPD doesn't consider walking a suspicious activity).
This is why I've chosen to buy a house in a SMALL town with no traffic and nothing there but houses, a gas station, a Pizza Hut, and a grocery store. Will it be boring? God, I hope so.
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Very few people will read this comment because of its length, but here goes anyway:
The same economists who just a few months ago told us:
1. There will be only modest inflation;
2. Inflation will be short-lived;
3. Housing prices are going to go up 20% in 2022
Are now telling us that it'll either be no recession or a brief, mild one.
Here's the five biggest problems:
1. Americans have no cash reserves. 61% of Americans can't cover a $1000 emergency in the "richest country on earth".
2. Inflation is mostly supply-side, not demand side. Fed raising interest rates will crush wage growth more than the inflation rate because interest rate rises are meant to fight demand-side inflation. Supply-side inflation caused by material shortages and supply chain disruptions isn't being dealt with by our government.
3. As Michael and Nick pointed out (and also Elon Musk), many badly-run, unprofitable companies have been keeping themselves going with free money. Free money train has been derailed by the Fed and now we may see a lot of companies large and small failing.
4. Housing is in a bubble and when that bursts, it's going to burn a lot of speculators (20% of all houses were bought by investors, aka speculators aka riverboat gamblers) who are going to lose possibly hundreds of billions overnight.
5. Americans not only have no savings, but high debt: the average US household holds debt equal to 129% of its annual gross income. You don't need to be Dave Ramsey to know that ain't good.
I think all of these things added together, plus a government run by clueless people who live in a bubble of their own (elderly millionaires), is going to result in a collapse that will be different in some ways from 2008, but actually worse, because there's no clear path to getting out of it. 2022 doesn't look so bad; 2023 looks stormy, indeed.
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My landlord is a Boomer property investor. He just bought five new "starter" homes and is going to keep them rent them out at a handsome profit. The listings never made it to the MLS--a realtor he works with hooked him up with the sellers (he paid all cash). I'm living in Lexington, KY right now, and the local paper found that 235 investors controlled one in every 10 Lexington home sales since 2019. The top five investors bought 1,000 houses between them 2019-2022, every single house a "starter" house that people used to buy as their first home.
The market is NOT going to fix this problem--we need limits on investors buying single family homes. Period. I know you have a lot of investors watching your channel and they're going to yell Communism or something at me, but everything has to have limits, and that includes capitalism. We already have limits, don't we? Companies aren't free to pollute, they have health and safety standards, we have a minimum wage, and anti-discrimination laws. Limiting investors from buying single family houses will be a good thing for our society.
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Warren Buffett switched his holdings from Wells Fargo to Bank of America for a number of reasons, this being among them. WF is a dysfunctional organization and, despite being judged "too big to fail", is at high risk of being absorbed by another bank. You have to be well-managed to make it through tough times, and Wells Fargo just isn't. There might be someone out there with the skill and vision to pull the bank through to the other side, but Charlie Scharf ain't it.
From CNN: "Buffett had publicly urged the Wells Fargo board not to hire a leader from Wall Street. Though Scharf has a track record of running consumer-facing businesses and improving them with technology, his resume featured time at securities-industry giant JPMorgan Chase & Co., and more recently atop Bank of New York Mellon Corp. Scharf also struck an agreement to work from New York, instead of the San Francisco headquarters, a move Buffett’s business partner, Charlie Munger, called “outrageous.”
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Big institutional investors can tap limitless funds to buy houses--I don't call them "homes" unless they're owned by individuals--and can and will swoop in and increase their holdings during this crisis. It's exactly what happened in 2010-2012, when they went as far as rigging bids in the Bay Area. Unless our government intervenes to secure housing for individuals, which it has shown zero inclination to do, by 2026, the share of houses sold to investors will go from 20% to 50% (and higher in the most desirable areas). This is demonstrably bad, since owning a house is the best route for people to build wealth for retirement. What's more, people owning their own homes provides much-needed social stability. I live in a neighborhood of duplexes that are 100% rentals and the neighborhood is constantly in flux. Nobody knows their neighbors, so nobody looks after one another. I've owned homes in the past where everyone was an owner and knowing that your neighbor is there for the long haul makes it more likely you'll befriend them. People need those social bonds; we're individuals, but we're also tribal animals and being isolated is bad for us. American society is already under severe strain not just from the pandemic but by the wage gap, and shutting people out of owning their homes may be good for investors' profits, but it's harmful for our society overall.
And no, I do not want to debate anybody who bleats about the magic of the market or other Ayn Rand BS. That stuff is a fantasy. We have local, state, and federal government agencies for a reason: they're supposed to intervene and manage our society to make it as fair as possible. If you want to live in a country where there's no government, try living in Somalia for a year and then check back with me if you're still alive at the end of it.
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The past isn't always a guide to the future, but after prices crashed in 2008, they didn't bottom out until 2010. I expect the same timeframe this time, though, because of the cumulative effect of valuing housing on the market. Sellers reduce their prices by 10%-15%, which becomes the new base. If houses still don't sell at that base, sellers reduce their price further, and that becomes the new base--it's a snowball rolling downhill. When owners wake up and realize they're paying a mortgage on a house market valued at $300,000 that they bought for $600,000, people are just going to start walking away if they don't see values recovering in the foreseeable future. This is the scenario all the banks are preparing for right now.
Wild cards in the scenario: 1. Will a recession tame inflation or will we have stagflation? 2. How long and how deep will the recession be? Housing prices are going to come down, but these wild cards affect whether prices go down by 20% or as much as 50%.
This will vary area by area, but I expect a minimum of 20% price reduction and 50% in others. Not all markets are as wildly overvalued (out of line with household incomes) as others, and all-cash investors may continue to partially prop up some markets. If you want a good bargaining position, wait a year. If you want to really gamble to get the best deal, two years.
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I wouldn't say sellers are "slashing" their listing prices. When you bought the house as an investment 2 years ago, demand double or triple what you paid for it, and then cut your asking price by 10% after sixty days...that's not much progress. Here's an example from the Midwest, using price history from the listing:
2019: Purchased for $80,000
March 2022: Listed for $210,000
June 2022: Price reduced to $195,000
That's with no improvements, either cosmetic or structural. The house needs new windows, a complete bathroom and kitchen remodel, roof is 15 years old...no garage, area is so-so.
I would buy the house for what they paid for it, but no more. It's a long way from $195,000 to $80,000. Anybody who pays more than $80,000 and isn't a deep pockets investor is an idiot. You'll have to buy and hold for a decade to recover your investment (but if you're looking to take a loss or stash some cash, it's a "buy").
The seller is apparently heavily indebted with lots of "investment properties" but sellers haven't adjusted to reality yet: people are either getting laid off or afraid of layoffs, inflation is destroying income gains and then some, banks aren't writing new loans, companies are putting an end to remote work, which means Californians who work in tech aren't going to swoop in and rescue property values with their high salaries. And the president can't get up a flight of stairs on his own. No one in Washington is doing anything. Janet Yellen and Jerome Powell have that deer in the headlights look and the president, well, let's just say he might not be a big help here and leave it at that.
Will that $195,000 house drop belong six figures? Depends on how long and how deep that recession is. If I were the seller, I'd drop the price to $120,000 for a quick sale and hope some dumb fish takes the bait. But dreams die hard and greedy ones die harder.
To answer your question: Yes, I'm fun at parties.
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Sellers were frightened in my area for a minute, now with the recent mortgage rates dip, they raised prices back up again.
Example: House was purchased in 2020 for $140,000, listed 6/22/22 for $310,000, price cut 7/24/22 to $285,000, just went to $315,000.
I'm working with a buyer's agent and she said that the widespread belief is that there won't be any further interest rate increases this year, and almost certainly a reduction in the first quarter of next year.
We'll see if that plays out. It's going to take another 6-9 months before we can see a clear direction. A lot of people are clinging desperately to the market of the past two years as if it wasn't some freakish anomaly. It's like getting up every day and expecting a total solar eclipse, man.
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(Before I start, apologies for a long comment no one will read)
People ask "Why haven't home prices collapsed yet?"
Three reasons:
1. The recession is just starting. We haven't seen job losses yet--but Target just posted a 90% decline in profits, with many other companies to follow. Companies will stop hiring and/or lay off people, especially after the 2022 Christmas shopping season.
2. The Fed promised to sell off its MBS (mortgage backed securities) but instead is BUYING them. The Fed actually added $8 billion in MBS over last month instead of selling the $17.5 billion they planned. Mortgage lenders set their rates when financial markets open, and then they monitor MBS prices all day (or they pay a service to do this and alert them to significant changes). When MBS prices drop, lenders raise interest rates, and when prices rise, they drop their rates. The Fed is propping up MBS prices and keeping rates from rising.
3. Many sellers are trying to wait this market out. I was negotiating for a house this past week and in the middle of negotiations, my broker informed me that the seller had decided to pull the listing "until he figures things out". Figuring things out = why he can't dictate terms and demand twice what he paid for the house in 2019. How can this be?
Ignore all the real estate industry shills (rhymes with "Bamsey") who assure us that home prices are just going to go up. They said the same thing before 2008. The inexorable principle of housing prices is this: when housing prices become disconnected from wages, housing prices will eventually correct back to their true value. A home at the top of the bubble in 2007 that was $250,000 is $475,000 today, while the average income went from $55,000 to $63,000 in that same time period. When people tell you "this isn't 2008", reply: "No, it's a far bigger bubble, much worse" and the coming recession of 2023-25 will be worse than 2008-11.
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As with 2008, the inflation in values and the deflation of the bubble vary widely from region to region. Many housing markets in the Midwest and Great Plains are relatively stable; it's the houses in Florida, Colorado, and west of the Rockies that soared in price the most, and which are now crashing hardest. As a native Midwesterner, I never could get used to the cyclical boom and bust of California real estate, because that's not how real estate works in Kansas.
I have to hand it to the real estate industry, though: they have the best sales force on the frikkin' planet. Who else can convince people that if they don't buy this house at a 200% markup from what the seller paid three years ago, at a significantly higher interest rate, they will NEVER get a house? Look no further than Trump, who has a real estate empire; the guy's a master salesman (not an endorsement of Trump, just an observation).
Full disclosure: My mom was a realtor and she can still sell ice cubes to Eskimos. When I rented my first apartment at age 18, my mom negotiated down the rent by pointing out flaws with the apartment. The landlady was so intimidated she knocked 20% off the rent.😂
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Capitalism as embodied in the US economy is cyclical. It's a boom-bust cycle and the swing in the cycles is getting more pronounced as successive governments deregulate the economy and as more and more economic power is concentrated in the hands of fewer and fewer companies and individuals.
Right now, I'm seeing a lot of denial and panic about a recession that's already underway. It's not coming, it's here.
One of my nieces is married to a home builder. Most of his clients have disappeared overnight. This is how recessions snowball.
When you predict a recession or say there's one happening, people mistake that for cheering for a recession. I'm not. Recessions can cause lasting harm to individuals and communities. But they're a fact of life and right now is a terrible time to buy a home, either to live in or as an investor, unless you're certain you won't have to sell it in the next decade. I think that's how long it'll take to recover the inflated values we're seeing now.
One factor so many people are missing is that we have a depopulation crisis in the US: the Boomers think they're never going to die, but even they are mortal and Millennials and Generation Z don't have the money to buy homes and raise kids. Mass immigration has always meant a periodic influx of young people into the States, but that's going away, too. We're left with an aging, maybe even declining, population. Once a society starts down that road, no one has ever reversed it.
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Michael, I don't know about Florida, but all I'm seeing in the Midwest are flippers and investors trying to dump their half-finished projects, landlords offloading rentals they no longer want to manage, the usual "needs TLC" junk that should be torn down, and a lot of very small, very overpriced vacation homes ("cozy cabin by the lake" that's 600 feet, etc).
Still, it's more than we were seeing a few months ago. It's a start.
When we do see homes that are worthwhile, most, if not all, will be snapped up by "all cash" investors who will overbid the asking price, same as happened during the last housing crash. I know a lot of folks are pinning their home ownership hopes on this crisis, but I don't see any good news anyone in this except the usual suspects (Boomer investors in the top 10% income bracket). Everybody else is SOL and when we're done, the housing market will be even more skewed than it is now.
The federal government needs to manage this crisis, but I don't see that happening, either. They didn't ten years ago and they've made no signs of doing it now.
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Most Americans are bad with money and worse at math, but are also perpetual optimists. If you understand this, it all makes sense.
Story of my neighbors: the husband just got laid off, the wife is still working, so even with unemployment benefits, their household income has been reduced by a significant amount.
They just bought a new 75 inch flatscreen tv. Because it was "on sale" and they're "saving money". They put their old 65 inch on the curb (still working) and some scavengers came and collected it (there's a good side hustle, collecting other people's castoffs). Oh, and the husband is sure he'll find a job "after the benefits run out". Going to take a long vacation until then!
Saw it, wanted it, bought it, it's on the credit card, how will we pay it off? Who knows?
My neighbors are NOT a unique case--I'd say most people are like that. Hell, people bought entire houses on impulse, what's a $1100 flatscreen tv or a $45,000 car compared to that?
I'm no financial genius and not rich, but I never carry credit card debt, drive a well-maintained car that I paid off years ago with 0% financing and another one I inherited from my dad, and have cash on hand for emergencies. And my television is over a decade old, but it works just fine, so why get another one? I have no financial worries because I've always lived below my means. The materialism of Americans is one of the biggest problems in our society: it's the source of a lot of stress, and part of it (not all of it) self-inflicted.
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Sounds like whoever wrote this affordable housing bill was watching your channel and reading the comments!
Even if you're against government intervention on principle, remember: affordable housing is the basis for a stable, prosperous society. People who are always moving and are always under financial strain are stressed, unhappy people who don't have an emotional investment in our society.
Incentives, rather than price controls, allows the market to work within limits. We have all kinds of limits on capitalism: OSHA health and safety regulations, speed limits on roads, hygiene standards for restaurants, child labor laws, pollution regulations, etc. Libertarians will tell you that we don't need any of those, but none of us would really want to live in a society where anyone could do anything they wanted without limits.
I haven't read this bill in Florida, but from your summary, it seems the main thrust of it is to make housing more affordable for families and individuals, not to fatten up investors, and that's going to be a good thing for the people of Florida. If you have a nice house that you can afford, you'll stay there, your neighbors will stay there, and you'll build a stable community. I grew up in a neighborhood like that in Kansas, and I still keep in touch with people I knew as a kid because we were all part of a real community. That's what this country needs.
By the way, are you the real Michael? Because I wasn't aware that he owns any long sleeve shirts. Just seems wrong.
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