Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "Vortex UH-1 Huey, the EOTech killer? (Lower priced holo sight)" video.
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@NostalgicLink Are you gonna pay for those better fences? We're not talking about the perimeter of your average white picket fence suburban home. We're talking large swaths of land.
"don't create environments where "pests" naturally thrive" - Oh so stop farming altogether? Sure bud. But the food doesn't come from the grocery store.
"Do you also shoot dogs and cats who roam from house to house and produce litter after litter every spring because the neighbors take pity and leave shitty kibbles out for them?" - Dogs and cats have a symbiotic relationship with humans, I feel embarrassed that I have to be explain 6th grade biology to people on youtube comments. There's a big fucking difference between domestic and wild animals and the types of nuisances they cause, a cat isn't going to ruin crops. Also, we control the population of pets by neutering them.
"Or, does your cognitive dissonance tell you dogs and cats shouldn't be shot, but hogs are fine?" - You don't even know what cognitive dissonance means, you're using it incorrectly. Also, for it to be cognitive dissonance cats/dogs would have to be comparable to hogs. They're not. As mentioned above, animals can form pairings that are mutually beneficial that get ingrained into their biology. You can't have a wolf as a pet like you would a dog. We don't share the long history of bonding and selective pressure we do with the dog. Dogs can read human emotion and communication better than chimpanzees or bonobos. There is a factual, objective and scientific difference between a dog and a wild animal like hog. There's also no benefits to killing dogs for food or to protect livestock/crops. If anything, we use dogs to protect our livestock.
"Hell, by your thinking, why not start taking out the homeless? The homeless stain otherwise nice locations and laws aren't strict enough to keep them out." - Do you have an actual point or you simply argue from bad faith?
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@NostalgicLink "I'm fully aware of the amount of land being used primarily to feed animals being taken advantage of around the world. And, yes, I'm solely going to pay to fix the situation, since that's what you're trying to insinuate I aught to do." - Stop being a child. Fences are expensive. You're demanding of others to pay for something you're not willing to contribute to. Either stop making unreasonable demands or pay up.
"Yeah, I definitely said we should just stop farming altogether. You're an idiot." - Yeah, you said that humans can't create environments that attract the hogs. This means no farming, bucko.
"Cats might not be able to ruin crops, but they can cause problems. I had to lay down anti-cat spikes in my small garden to keep them from digging up the soil and chewing up leaves to clean their teeth." - I'm gonna pretend I didn't just read the implication that the damage caused to your garden by cats is as serious as the damage caused to crops by hogs.
"Every now and then he tries to round up the females to have them neutered, but more show up every year anyway" - The fact that you can do that to cats only drives my point further home. Hogs will straight up gore you.
"You believe cats and dogs have the right to live even when they can be pests, likely because of your relationship or understanding of the normality of the relationship, but not all other animals, even though all other animals are trying to live just the same as cats and dogs." - Yes, this is called basic biology. Is the shark disgusting because it doesn't kill the remora?
"I do know what cognitive dissonance is, I am using it correctly" - You're not. Cognitive dissonance requires a state of dissonance. If someone is confident about their beliefs without suffering the stress of trying to balance them, they do not suffer from cognitive dissonance.
"Cats and dogs are comparable to hogs, in many ways." - Two things being "comparable" doesn't make them equivalent.
"Notably, as I've described, they're all animals that are just trying to live" - So is a mosquito. If you want to remove the "animal" qualifier even black mold is just trying to live. Even things that aren't technically alive, like viruses, are "trying to live" by holding onto hosts and replicating their genetic information. A criminal breaking into my home is an animal trying to live. It's not an excuse.
"You're okay with killing one but not the other, despite their similar desires to not die." - See example above. Oh no, the mosquito doesn't want to die. Fuck him. He's gonna die because his bite is inconvenient to me and also they spread diseases in some countries. Even a rapist has the desire not to die. The desire to not die is not an excuse. At one point actions have to have consequences and the culprit can't say "noooo you can't harm me because I wish to not die".
"You're also okay with killing hogs as they are a nuisance, but not the homeless." - The homeless aren't out there absolutely targeting our food supply nor are they multiplying because of their invasive nature you sick fuck. If a homeless guy tries to jump you with a knife then sure, it would be wise to defend yourself.
"Have you attempted to bond with a hog? Have their been studies attempting to do so?" - How about you try first and nobody steps in to help you if it goes wrong?
"Have humans historically attempted that? No, they did so with cats and dogs" - BUDDY DO YOU KNOW WHERE DOMESTICATED PIGS COME FROM?
I MEAN I WAS ONLY HALF JOKING WHEN I SAID YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND BIOLOGY BUT YOU REALLY OUT HERE ADMITTING YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT DOMESTICATED PIGS WERE BRED OUT OF WILD BOAR 10,000 YEARS AGO
"There are plenty of people who take pigs as pets though. Why's that?" - Because they were bred for it, and are not wild animals? What you're doing is like saying wolves are suitable pets because dogs exist.
"When a homeless guy does nothing but bother you for change every time you go to the store, offering you nothing in return but his gratitude, do you think "he's not as useful as a cat or a dog, so why don't we just eliminate him?" No, you don't, because you were shaped to know that would be wrong, and you should know that it's similarly wrong to just eliminate hogs." - And also because there's a big fucking difference between giving up a dollar once a week and entire farms getting wrecked? Even the health concerns with dirty needles or human excrement in cities due to homelessness isn't as big of a deal as wild pigs being a vector for swine flu or possibly carrying pathogens that can wipe out deer populations.
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