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Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "Should the U.S. Be Sending Weapons to Ukraine? Scott Horton vs. Cathy Young at the Soho Forum" video.
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False. The West tried to help, but former Soviet apparatchiks ignored them and continued Soviet era policies. The crook oligarchs stole from Russia, not the West. That was Yeltsin's loans for shares plan.
Russia never made any real attempt to standardize their military to NATO specs or convince their population to support NATO. In fact when the Russian military had joint training with NATO militaries, the Russian population protested against it. Russia also had a history of using military force to solve their disputes while NATO has a requirement to solve them diplomatically instead of using force as a first resort.
14,000 were not killed by shelling. That number includes 5,000 separatists and 3,000 Ukrainian military. They were legitimate combatants. So no, it wasn't 14,000. It was around 4,000 killed, most in 2014-2015. The conflict then become more or less frozen.
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