Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "Sketch: The Libertarian DIY Face Mask" video.

  1. Viruses are dispersed by droplets and aerosols. If you are guarded against droplets you reduce viral load.
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  2.  @libertyforever4270  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24229526 "The median-fit factor of the homemade masks was one-half that of the surgical masks. Both masks significantly reduced the number of microorganisms expelled by volunteers, although the surgical mask was 3 times more effective in blocking transmission than the homemade mask. CONCLUSION: Our findings suggest that a homemade mask should only be considered as a last resort to prevent droplet transmission from infected individuals, but it would be better than no protection." Reducing spread, even if only by one third, is reducing spread.
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  3.  @libertyforever4270  no, what's interesting is that you said it didn't work, you were proven wrong, and now you're trying to have the last word by saying "bUt MuH gOvErNmEnT". The government said that masks didn't work. Anyone with a brain knew they were hoarding the masks for themselves. If you're gonna change your opinion on whether or not masks work every time the government chances its official stance rather than by facts, then you're not a libertarian but a fucking idiot.
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  4.  @libertyforever4270  "You are making up stories and telling falsehoods." - You have claimed that cloth cannot stop microscopic matter. The microscopic matter is carried by droplets and aerosols, which can get trapped in cloth. That is precisely why surgical masks don't work when wet, once soaked through the microscopic matter can go through the filtering layers. I posted a link stating that homemade masks are 30% as effective as real masks. You're wrong. Just accept it. "Darkwing Dork agreed that masks do not stop viruses" - 1. I don't care who he is and what he admits is not my problem. 2. The mask doesn't need to stop the virus, just the particles that spread the virus. If you have a problem understanding how masks work I can sit here and explain a hundred more times until you get it. "You, evidently, are another defender of Big Government" - Not only are you making an unproven accusation, it treads on Ad Hominem. Do you have an actual argument? Or should I take your paranoid delusions as a sign that you've run out of things to say and you're lashing out?
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  5.  @FilmFlam-8008  "wet coverings actually increase the filtering capability. They filter more." - Then that's a different mechanism. What I'm describing is that the fibers in a factory made mask cannot be so tight that breathing is compromised, so the mask uses thickness to increase statistical chance of something getting trapped within, like a labyrinth filter. If those fibers get wet, they're not tight enough to stop viruses. It would be like trying to stop brewed coffee with a coffee filter. Not the same thing as a wet covering. "the government was not hoarding the support for itself. they were trying to keep the supplies open for front line workers that need them, trying to prevent the rush. Don’t go down the conspiracy hole." - Obviously I am putting governments, WHO, CDC, healthcare providers in the same bag. In many countries the healthcare system is a government institution. That's not a conspiracy.
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  6.  @libertyforever4270  I'm not stopping you from expressing your opinion, I'm just saying it's retarded to bareback all the local crack whores simply because the government told you to wear a condom.
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  7.  @libertyforever4270  "Put on your precious little mask, lean up against a mirror, cough normally, lean back and look at the foggy spot you leave behind" - You're not supposed to cough in people's faces. Also, if you cough without the mask, you'll have a lot more particles in the mirror anyway. Also, most of the fog is left on the mirror by gaseous water and gas molecules do not carry virus particles. You cannot attribute all of the fog to aerosols and thus you can't measure how much of the fog you left would actually carry a viral load. "That spot would have many millions of viral organisms if you had been infected by the coronavirus." - Again, reducing the number of particles by 30% versus a factory mask means reducing transmission, or at least making sure transmissions carry less viral load making people less sick. " Finally, you are like all totalitarian Dictators. You are a pathological liar and a jerk." - I'm a totalitarian because I know a physical barrier is better than no physical barrier? I'm a liar for speaking the objective truth? I'm a jerk when you're the one who hasn't stopped acting aggressive and paranoid?
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  8.  @FilmFlam-8008  No, the wetness makes it hard to breathe because you're trying to force air through a liquid so air takes the path of least resistance through the small gaps it can find. But virions won't get filtered by the mask. They'll ride in the liquid. "And in the US, we have private healthcare" - Irrelevant. The private sector is so intertwined with government it's barely worth making the distinction. And considering this is a global issue, globally the medical system and government are joined at the hip. If a government agency is attempting to save masks for the private sector, they're in cahoots. Full stop. No need to go any further. The CDC and WHO employ doctors. They're part of the same "class". "Putting everything in the same bag is disingenuous. It is easy to say, but not logically accurate. With that same logic, you should not trust your doctor (healthcare provider)" - It's not disingenuous. Is the government managing and distributing supplies for the medical field or not? They are. The tumor example is completely out of context because there's no reason for the government to request an overestimation of cancer diagnosis or anything. If there was a reason to distrust a cancer diagnosis maybe the example would make sense. "You are muddling things together in a conspiracy mindset" - It's not a conspiracy mindset. First of all, accusing others of being conspiracy theorists is in itself a way to discredit without addressing the argument (just the other day I told a tankie that Nazis found Soviet mass graves and realized their own mass graves would be uncovered and decided to dig the bodies out and burn them to erase the evidence - I was accused of being a conspiracy theorist even though this is a proven historical event). Second, I didn't do the "you can't trust anybody" move, I simply stated that government agencies lied for their own benefit. Anyone with a brain saw the underlying motive. This isn't a conspiracy. There's no conspiracy. Stop accusing others of being conspiracy theorists when there's none.
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  9.  @libertyforever4270  You have no argument. If you were right you'd be able to explain it. But you can't. Thanks for admitting it.
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  10.  @FilmFlam-8008  "The government is sending supplies to medical facilities. Yes. Because the hospitals need them. That is a fact." - Which I never disputed. "That does not mean the hospitals are working for the government and you can’t trust hospitals." - You're strawmanning. "The government giving supplies to a hospital <> the hospital being an arm of the government." 1. I just said they were working together. 2. In many countries they ARE an arm of the government and this is a global issue. "You need to step back and realize that." - No, you need to step back and realize that you took a statement I made out of context and you've created a web of conspiracy from it. You're even contradicting statements I never made.
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  11.  @libertyforever4270  Keep admitting that you have nothing to offer except insults.
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