Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "Where Do Cartels Buy Guns?" video.
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@hughgrection3052 "They SELL DRUGS. not guns" - Guns are a commodity. Guns are trafficked across Latin America. They buy guns off the international black market. They steal them from government armories. And whatever else they need, they straw purchase in the US.
"Pound for pound they make more money dealing in one thing" - Okay. But they also have fingers on every pie. You do realize that when you go down to a resort in Mexico, the cartels probably own a significant percentage of it, if not all of it, right? They make money off tourism. Pound for pound it doesn't make money like drugs. But it makes money.
"they'd simply make a factory and be legit" - They do have factories but it's only to produce what they can't buy. Such as lowers for AR uppers they got from the US.
"It's by so called gangstas snitching on other so called gangstas to eliminate competition." - And who are you going to snitch to? God? You snitch on the local cops, they might snitch on you and the rival cartel will have your tongue exiting out the throat by the next morning.
"EVERYONE IS ON THE TAKE?? Really? Is that the mental gymnastics you resort to to make your logic work?" - What's the mental gymnastics you need to resort to explain how cartels still exist if the Mexican police is honest and efficient? There's a reason special units are created to fight the cartels, people who can't be bought and have their identities hidden so that their families won't get harmed. Ever heard of the Los Zetas? They were originally a group of 34 soldiers who deserted from the GAFE unit. Highly trained soldiers, even got training at Ft. Bragg too. 34 of them decided to be on the take. Where are the gymnastics here?
"If everyone is paid off how is this even possible?" - You're just twisting my words at this point. Yes, there are government forces that aren't being paid off. The issue is that there's too few of them to fight the cartels. They can't be involved with low level arrests, the resources are directed at the big dogs.
"Do cartels even have to hire so called "hitmen"" - Again, the Los Zetas started as hired guns for the Gulf Cartel. They decided to split off and create their own cartel.
"You don't think they have ample access to people with guns already? Who they know are loyal?" - I'm starting to repeat myself - but you never know. Again, the Los Zetas were loyal gunmen for the Gulf Cartel. Then they decided to rival them. The only think keeping people loyal is a good paycheck and the fear of getting killed in a brutal way. When someone's paying more and you're assured you'll be better protected working for someone else, there's no loyalty.
"sorry if I'm a realist with the ability to think on my own" - You're a realist who hasn't done a shred of research about cartels or even Latin America. You think based on your experience, not realizing that you may need others to share their experiences to expand your way of thinking. You seem to understand crime north of the border, but you're in disbelief regarding well known facts of the cartel wars.
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@hughgrection3052 Why is that gun worth 3k? Because the cartels got them all for 300-500 or even free.99 by swiping it off a police armory. 3k is the price thanks to scarcity. Cartels created the scarcity by controlling the flow of the illicit trade.
They ditched the gun because they were scared? Now they pay it off, plus interest. That's how you make money.
Murder weapons aren't always ditched after use. That's why ballistic fingerprinting is often used to piece together who's doing hits as the same murder gun gets repeated use over the years.
A "hitman worth is salt" is just some guy who's given up on morals for money. Again, they're not specially trained ninjas like in the movies. They're just some guy who went down the wrong path in life and now they do bad stuff for a living. The simple rules are: cartels have cornered the market, so you come to them if you're in need of a piece. They don't sell you the whole cow, they sell you the milk.
What's wrong with a warehouse? There's cartel videos of them rolling up to warehouses and merc'ing everyone inside. I don't know the context of those videos, but clearly illicit things happen in those warehouses. You can store drugs in warehouses. You can store stolen cars in warehouses and keep them there to strip the parts and move them out inconspicuously. Why is a warehouse a movie thing?
The cartels don't rent for themselves, they rent OUT to others. They OWN the guns. Just like the Yakuza. The Yakuza don't let you own or carry a gun when you work for them, they like to stay in control and not give their street thugs guns because it only makes things messy.
You didn't understand what he was saying. They don't go to the warehouse. THEY OWN THE WAREHOUSE. They have the guns, and rent out to those who need it. Cartels don't care if the hitmen are busted, because they easily traffic guns. Oh, they're going to squeal? Do you know what happens to people who squeal? Either way, who cares? If anyone squeals, someone in the police will just tip them off and the warehouse will be empty next morning. Everyone's on the take.
Mexican police driving right up and busting the warehouse? Do you remember when El Chapo's son was raided by the Mexican Marines and the cartels surrounded the entire town? They had to release Ovidio because the cartels had the Marines overwhelmed. What cover story do I need? Either one of the cops warns me and we hide the stuff, or they will not even bother showing up because they know that if they arrest me, the entire town will be surrounded by cars with welded steel plates and .50 cal M2s in the back. Local cops don't want none of that smoke.
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